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Tomahawk Nation's thoughts on the spring game

A big thank you to everyone who participated on the Tomahawk Nation Spring Game community project.  A special thanks to jaguar, CSINole, TRMNole, NolesBlogger, Pbysh, Jaguar, PCNole, DA-2, Northernhaze, basbalstr101, RunninNole, as well as the e-mailers and instant messengers.  In fact, we will have pictures and maybe some video later this week!

Thanks to Basblstr1 for this photo: 

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Inside I'll try to summarize what everyone said... and add some things they didn't say.  Make sure to keep in mind that the spring game is basically another scrimmage, just like the previous four scrimmages.  The only difference is that more fans come.

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A Tale of Two Teams

By now you've probably heard that both offenses were sloppy, and that is true.  What shocked me, however, was that most of the slop was by the second team offense, and their lackadaisical attitude is being attributed to the first team offense (perhaps unfairly).  I don't really care about the 2nd team offense because they are run by a walk-on QB who will not be playing in the fall once E.J. Manuel comes back and Will Secord gets on campus.  

So, how bad was the offense? 

Opponent Result Plays Total Yards Yards/Play
Clemson W 41-27 63 419 6.7
1st Team Offense in Spring Game 30 188 6.3
@ 22 Georgia Tech L 28-31 65 384 5.9
+ Colorado W 39-21 68 378 5.6
+ Wisconsin W 42-13 75 410 5.5
@ Miami (Fla.) W 41-39 85 440 5.2
Boston College L 17-27 56 285 5.1
@ North Carolina St. W 26-17 80 392 4.9
@ Maryland W 37-3 68 332 4.9
15 Virginia Tech W 30-20 57 248 4.4
2nd Team Offense in Spring Game 30 130 4.3
1 Florida L 15-45 65 242 3.7
Wake Forest L 3-12 64 220 3.4

 

The 1st team offense averaged 6.3 yards per play against the 1st team defense.  That would have been the 2nd best offensive performance of last year (against Division 1 competition).  If we average 6.3 yards per play in the 2009 season we will win the ACC.

The 2nd team offense had a horrible day.

How did the defensive performance stack up against last year's defense?

Opponent Result Plays Total Yards Yards/Play
+ Colorado W 39-21 73 278 3.8
Wake Forest L 3-12 68 276 4.1
@ Miami (Fla.) W 41-39 63 256 4.1
@ Maryland W 37-3 60 252 4.2
15 Virginia Tech W 30-20 56 243 4.3
2nd Team Defense, Spring Game 30 130 4.3
Clemson W 41-27 71 316 4.5
Boston College L 17-27 74 357 4.8
+ Wisconsin W 42-13 54 333 6.2
1st Team Defense, Spring game 30 188 6.3
@ 22 Georgia Tech L 28-31 51 343 6.7
@ North Carolina St. W 26-17 47 338 7.2
1 Florida L 15-45 68 502 7.4

 

So, why are we so impressed with the defense?  If the spring game was the length of a full game, they would have given up 425 yards.

 

Fumble Recovery is not a repeatable skill.

That's right.  It's been proven that recovering fumbles is not a repeatable skill.  You can't teach it.  You can't improve your standing in this category.  It is entirely luck.  Recovering fumbles is a random occurrence.  

With that in mind, consider that

  • The offense fumbled 6 times, and the defense recovered 5 of those fumbles.  Luck anyone?  We know that recovering fumbles is basically a coin flip.  Oh variance, why must you rear your ugly head in our spring game?
  • The defense only forced two of the 6 fumbles.  They had absolutely nothing to do with the other 4. 
  • Only 1 of the 6 fumbles were committed by the 1st team, the other 5 were by the 2nd team.
  • 5 of the fumbles involved Ty Jones, a runningback battling a hand/ finger injury for much of spring. 

I do want to credit the defense for forcing two of the fumbles, however, as defenders were in the backfield basically intercepting the handoff.  Mickey Andrews guys did an excellent job of timing their blitzes-- something we were happy to see improve from last year, when at times it. 

Run blitzing will be an important element in this year's defense, seeing that we will likely be undersized.

 

On Ponder

Ponder was 10-19 for 118 yards, 1 TD and 2 int's.  Let's take a look at some of his more memorable throws. 

  • His 1st interception was a skinny post.  This is a very good route if you throw it well and Ponder did not.  He put it on the back shoulder.  Jamie Robinson made a play that was nothing short of amazing to pick the ball.
  • On the next play, we ran a Slant-n-Go, or a "POGO" (Pump and Go).  Jenijie bit hard on the slant fake, and Ponder put the ball on the money to Jarmon Fortson who raced 65 yards for the TD. 
  • Interception #2 was a good example of the problems I discussed in "How can Florida State fill their wide receiver void?".  Ponder is throwing a corner route to Jarmon Fortson (we think it was Fortson) and the young wideout quits on the route.  Jamie Robinson makes another amazing play to pick the ball with one hand, and we don't think he came down in bounds, but in any case, this isn't on Ponder.  He makes the throw before Fortson cuts and wide receiver quits on the ball. 
  • 3 bubble screens of varying effectiveness. 
  • The defense was really roughing up the wideouts.  Our guys saw 3 incompletions where the wideouts were absolutely mauled and pass interference was not called (more on this later).
  • On a 3yd completion to Reid, PI was called, but apparently declined. 
  • PI was finally called and accepted on Ponder's 3rd to last throw, as Fortson was wearing a Seminole defender as a cape. 
  • The ugliest incomplete of the day was an apparent missed line check by a young wideout (Lawrence Dawsey's boys did not have a good weekend.)  Ponder checks to a quick fade (like the one Carr caught in the bowl game), and the wideout runs a slant/in route.  Ponder throws immediately, and the wide receiver is not within 20 yards of the ball when it lands.  
  • One of the incomplete passes was a really ill-advised corner/ deep out route thrown to Louis Givens.  It wasn't "double" coverage, per se, but it was definitely good coverage and not high percentage throw, particularly considering Louis Givens lack of height.

Overall, Ponder was not sharp.  He was inconsistent.  He did do a much better job of staying in the pocket and stepping up.  

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Nobody saw any evidence of a 15 step drop (see also: Forest, Wake).  He was not inaccurate, though he was far from pinpoint.  He was below average in his reads.  Commenters noted that he missed check downs at least twice.  One in particular seemed to be noticed by the entire stadium.  On the whole, considering some of the DB play and missed assignments by the wideouts, I am going to label Ponder's day as below average, but not horrible.  

I wish I could comment on his mechanics, but nobody has mentioned them yet, and it's obviously difficult to judge those live.

 

Offensive Line

This is always hard to evaluate live.  I haven't seen any Trickett quotes yet.  Our observers believe that they lacked intensity in the run blocking game.  The defense was able to shoot the gaps and get some tackles in the backfield.  The pass protection was above average, but not great.  Here, a user submitted a shot of Ponder in the Pocket.  Zebrie Sanders is driving his man past the pocket.

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Both of the sacks were a result of the "one hand touch of the QB rule."  Systemic of the entire offense, they lacked the fire that they had shown in the previous two scrimmages.  Ryan McMahon had a horrible day, getting beat numerous times and launching 3 bad snaps.

 

Wide Receivers

Poor.  These guys did not fight for the ball and they ran incorrect routes.  That was not unexpected: "How can Florida State fill their wide receiver void?"  Lawrence Dawsey has work to do with these guys.  Still, the defense was clearly playing in a style that would draw multiple flags in a real game.

 

Running Backs

Jermaine Thomas was average.  Ty Jones was terrible.  5 or 6 fumbles from one guy really tarnished the game.  Nobody mentioned that the backs were good or bad in pass protection, so I am operating under the assumption that it was average.  There were not multiple obvious missed blitz responsibilities.  The 1st team only ran the ball 10 times (as opposed to 20 throws), which was rather curious.

 

Defensive Line

These guys played well, with good intensity.  McCray, Mincey, and White stood out.  White played on the 2nd team as a motivational ploy.  We will need these guys to not only start, but play at a high level this fall.  I am very concerned that we are playing tiny Everette Dawkins and Kendrick Stewart at Nose tackle.  Writer CaStauch thinks that O'Dell sees himself in the tiny guys and thus plays them.  He'll need to cut that out if he wants to stick around under the next defensive coordinator.

 

Linebackers

Played well.  Got hit by a few misdirections, but these guys flew to the football and really excelled against our pro style stuff. 

 

Defensive Backs

Jamie and Patrick Robinson played out of their minds.  The rest got away with some serious pass interference.  I like the aggressiveness, but I want to see more technique, less attitude and shucking.  Jamie Robinson though... wow... we might have found a true center fielder.  He showed impressive range and instincts throughout the scrimmage.

It's also extremely encouraging that the defense played some cover-2 shell.  Cover-2 shell allows you to play your corners aggressively, knowing that the safeties are there to provide help if the corner gets beat.

 

Penalties

FSU is one of the most heavily penalized teams in the nation.  That's not a bad thing, as penalties actually strongly correlate with winning.  Interestingly enough, penalties were not called on Saturday.  The first team defense was flagged once for pass interference and the offense committed one false start.  Our observers noted that the 1st team defense should have been flagged for at least two (possibly as many as four) more pass interference penalties.  I believe that the refs were instructed to "let the defense play."  The physical play of our defense that would have certainly drawn a flag in real life was probably very impressive to the recruits at the game (almost all were defensive players).  They had to like that attitude ;).  It looked like the rhythm of the offense was very disrupted by some of the stuff the defense did, some legal, and some definitely flag-worthy.

 

Format

The format is not conducive to our offense.  The subbing in and out of 2nd and 3rd team players hurts the rhythm our offense likes to operate with.  Twice the offense had drives in which they ran out of plays.  There was no rhythm to this game because of the created scenarios and the need to sub in 2nd and 3rd teams. I thought the first team offense played fairly well despite the format. It was a good stepping stone for players like Thomas and Reed who have never really had to be, "the man" before.  Jimbo is trying to press upon them the importance of playing hurt, playing tired, assuming the role of leader and until they are asked to do it in a game with all eyes watching they can't learn how to embrace that.  

I will work on an alternate format for the spring game after final exams.

 

Final notes:

  • We ran a lot of pro-set stuff. 
  • There was practically NO running out of the spread.
  • The game was pass dominated (20 passes, 10 runs)
  • Ponder only has 1 run.
  • The defense played with a lot more energy and "want-to" than the offense.  Maybe the offense thought they would shred the defense again?
  • If you look at who we had visiting (recruits), they were all defensive studs.  No pass interference being called, defense allowed to play very rough, and we didn't run the ball out of the spread.  Sort of curious... ;)
  • I'm glad we have more practices left.  
  • Fisher was chewing out everyone on the sidelines
  • Make sure to focus on yards per play as the measure of defense.  That's what stays consistent, not fumble recoveries.
  • Additional recap and video here.  
  • Make sure not to draw too many conclusions based off thirty plays.  A set of 30 plays is less than half of a regular game.
  • Keep in mind that the spring "game" is really just another scrimmage, just like the previous four scrimmages.

GO NOLES!!

 

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Yeah, I don't think so either.

I think this is a result of trying to see where the offense is and having a few key things he wanted to do in the scrimmage. Obviously, there will be more run plays in a real game. I don’t expect Ponder to run as much as last year, but there will be that threat as well.

by FSUjab on Apr 6, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I won't come out and accuse anyone of anything, but

I will pose this question:

What is in Fisher’s best interest:

Have a defense play with an extreme attitude, smack around the offense, inspire kids to come play defense at FSU, while showing the lone offensive stud recruits (Ambles and Lattimore) that they have a chance to play early, or…

Show up the defense by doing something he already knew he could do.

How much does “winning” a scrimmage matter?

He knows what he has in Ponder’s legs and our zone spread run game. Ponder has probably added 10-15lbs of muscle. The guy is super jacked.

by Bud Elliott on Apr 6, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very good points.

Jimbo’s smart, but I’m not so sure he’s that crafty.

I’m sure he didn’t tell Jones to fumble 4x, or McMahon to snap the ball high. Those are execution issues that are on individual players. You snap a ball high and you can seriously ruin, if not jeopardize, a well drawn-up play.

I like the way you think though.

by FSUjab on Apr 6, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see your point FSUn...Do you think the recruits really care about winning?

Or do they just want to play early. If I was a defensive recruit, I would want to play, but I would also want to play with an offensive group that could prevent me from having to play 45 minutes a game.

by jasonole59 on Apr 6, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keep in mind that many spring games are dominated by defense

I don’t think recruits care about winning a scrimmage. They definitely see that our defense plays with a lot of aggression, and hopefully they get caught up in the fever.

by Bud Elliott on Apr 6, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sure he didn’t tell Jones to fumble 4x, or McMahon to snap the ball high. Those are execution issues that are on individual players. You snap a ball high and you can seriously ruin, if not jeopardize, a well drawn-up play.

That’s exactly right.

In fact, I think Jimbo thought it would go with this:

Run a lot of pro stuff
Use the spread, but only pass out of it
Run little misdirection

Have success, but not overwhelming success. Most of the success being the offensive line play.

His plan sort of backfired in that the offense combined the “geared down” game plan with a lackadaisical attitude and fumbles.

It went from slight advantage offense over a defense that looks fun to play in, to advantage defense, offense horrible.

by Bud Elliott on Apr 6, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a more plausible scenario.

Maybe the players lackadaisical attitude was simply a reflection of Jimbo’s attitude. Of course, he didn’t plan on Jones’ butterfingers or McMahon being drunk on Red Bull.

by FSUjab on Apr 6, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Numbers don't always explain what is seen on the field. Our numbers on Offense

were pretty good against GT last year (or at least not bad). Just from what I saw, I would have a hard time being convinced that we would beat anyone with that offense.

I know, it’s just spring.

by jasonole59 on Apr 6, 2009 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Right. The bad snaps were ridiculous.

I really wish we would move Hudson to center (his NFL position) and play Spurlock/ Sanderson or Spurlock/ Davis at guard.

by Bud Elliott on Apr 6, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

No I actually don't put much into the spring game, other than the fact that it

gives the players a change to play in front of a crowd. I can only judge the spring game, because it’s the only one I actually saw. We’re all used to the defense winning the spring game. I just thought it would be nice to leave Doak with a feeling that some seriouse progress has been made (I think there has been, just didn’t show up on saturday).

by jasonole59 on Apr 6, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

So to answer your question, I guess I fold these into those scrimmages...Overall I feel

the offense has probably progressed more. We were simply feeding the defense the stuff they’re good at covering = pro-style.

by jasonole59 on Apr 6, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is my take fwiw:

I’ll start with the caveat that I wasn’t at the spring game, nor have I been at any of the practices. So all of this is based solely on what I’ve read throughout the spring (I did watch some video of the spring game, but that’s pretty much worthless IMO).

I think it’s fairly apparent that the offense had an “off day” so to speak. The fact that Jones fumbled 4x is disturbing to say the least. The high snaps are annoying. Those are execution issues that show a lack of focus and/or concentration.

I’m somewhat excited about the emergence of JRob at safety. I was wondering where this guy has been all his career. Granted, this was just one scrimmage and he has yet to really to do anything in a game. However, if he keeps this up we might just have the “Robinson Robbers” taking care of business in the defensive backfield.

With that being said, there appears to be a significant drop-off in talent from the Robbers. Jenije got burned in this scrimmage and he’s been burned a couple times this spring. Is this another over-rated Tally area kid? Boy, I hope not. Then there’s Mangum. Don’t get me started on this guy. His uniform doesn’t even fit … and I’ll leave it at that.

Are we looking at another instance where the offense may not be as good as we thought and the defense may not be as bad as we thought? Eh, probably not. But I find the defensive play a little more encouraging. I think the offense will be fine.

by FSUjab on Apr 6, 2009 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Also,

I think the consensus is that there will definitely be frosh playing this year on defense, maybe even starting.

by FSUjab on Apr 6, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

consperincy

come on your going to tell me Jimbo went out there and say the future of his Def watching the game and her gave in. Im bet MA and him talked about this. Why would Jimbo run pro-style plays because her want hes guys to get beat sometime.and MA will do that. why not run out of the spread? why should we? you dont need ponder getting hurt so the LB know hes not going to run the ball. Did the game anwser anyone questions about the Off and Def for next year. Sorry I would have to say not. It gave the fans a warm fuzzy thats about it.
I will say there are 2 things one good and one bad I got out of this.
Good: We needed a Def back to step up and that man is Jamie Robinson
Bad: Ty Jones was terrible. 5 or 6 fumbles from one guy really tarnished the game.

Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry

by Desman on Apr 6, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Jimbo would be wise to keep only 3 coaches when he takes over.

Himself.
Trickett.
Foley.

Odell, Carter and Dawsey were the stars when I was in school, and they still hold a special place in my heart. That doesn’t mean they have the wherewithall to coach effectively. They’ve had enough time to prove it. I hope Jimbo breaks out his broom.

by FiestaNole on Apr 6, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I can't say I agree with this yet

These three have not had their feet held to the fire.

Also, we can’t have a repeat of 2004(?) where we had basically an all white staff. We have cool black guys and need to keep them. Recruiting is keeping this program alive until Bobby is done.

by Bud Elliott on Apr 6, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but Carter's got to go.

I don’t care how cool he is. Did he ever pass that recruiting test? If he passes, then maybe JF should keep him. If he stays he’ll need to address some of these butterfinger issues.

by FSUjab on Apr 6, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he passes the recruiting test, he needs to stay. He's a cool guy.

If he doesn’t pass it, however…

I am somewhat willing to give TY a pass because his finger/hand is obviously injured.

by Bud Elliott on Apr 6, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that Jones should get a pass.

Bad snaps + walk-on QB + injury + diabetes = a lot of nonsense to deal with for a young guy.

by FSUjab on Apr 6, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Can't Believe It's Not Butterfingers

Remember, this guy’s on a strict diet.

(I apologize for offending anybody with this heartless pun. I realize that diabetes is a serious affliction affecting millions of Americans. I’m already going to hell, however)

by The K-Man on Apr 6, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't give up on Dawsey just yet.

He was getting rave reviews when he was coaching at USF and had a couple of nice years there.

by FSUjab on Apr 6, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd actually love to know what a day in the life of a WR or RB coach is like...

are they just glorified motivators and babysitters or do they function more like a manager would in a business setting…..taking full responsibility for their “employees” and then reporting back to the big guy (Jimbo). I never played football at a collegiate level so i honestly dont know their value or even their responsibilites. For example if the WR’s dont know their zone reads, does that fall on Dawsey or does that fall on Jimbo? Or what does Chuck actually do during practice and games? Although maybe my second question doesnt apply since Chuck is still probably watching film on Wisconsin. Does Dexter just make sure that his RBs know their playbook?

by Renegade11 on Apr 6, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know the ol' saying...

s#!t rolls down hill.

Anyone who doesn’t recognize that Dawsey can’t babysit these guys at 4 a.m. isn’t thinking clearly. However, the nonsense with the WR’s definitely reflects poorly on Dawsey and it’s got to stop. He needs to think of creative methods for keeping these guys out of trouble.

by FSUjab on Apr 6, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

We in a contest.

Most insensitive diabetes joke. It’s neck and neck.

by The K-Man on Apr 6, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha yes

Have you seen the Wilford Brimley youtube spoofs?

M. Jackson’s “Beetus” instead of “Beat It” might be my favorite.

by Bud Elliott on Apr 6, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sweet as the blood sugar levels rising

" And He drank the world's sin so He could carry you in, and give you life"

by FSUvaFan on Apr 6, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

God be with them...

" And He drank the world's sin so He could carry you in, and give you life"

by FSUvaFan on Apr 6, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Jimbo gets rid of Odell or Dawsey I'll go on a Tallahasse rampage.

Not really. Maybe. No, I won’t.

Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook

by FSUSOM on Apr 6, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jones stood out the most to me

5 fumbles!!!! that’s insane. How can u be a rb and not hold onto the ball? I noticed it said “involving” jones. But regardless his mistakes were so bad , it cause 5 fumbles to happen That’s an absolute joke. Too bad thompson is surgery, he would have passed jones out. Can’t block and can’t secure the football. Seems awesome from a RB

Looks like everything we expected happened in the game. Seems as tho fsu is gonna be overrated again due to the lack of player development. I’m already mad and it’s only spring

by Cee on Apr 6, 2009 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I still think Jones is going to be good.

Sounds like the fumbles may not have been all his fault. Also, FSUn thinks that he had a finger/hand issue which would explain quite a bit (although if your hurt that bad, maybe you should pull yourself).

by FSUjab on Apr 6, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dawseys job

I played in college it was at a small division two school that eventually has switched to NAIA at this point, we did play against division one double AA schools from the gateway confrence. I know your probably thinking whole different ball game but a lot of the stuff we ran is what I see on TV every Saturday. My O coordinator in college is the receiver’s coach and special teams coordinator at Marshall now. I played running back and slot receiver so I spent my time with both position coaches and they were the most liked coaches on staff. It doesn’t seem like they have a lot of responsibility on the outside looking in but they really do. Every check that is made the have to know about it and then relay that to us from day to day game to game. How many guys make us hot on each play, that stuff changes sometimes daily and definitely changes for each opponent. The blocking scheme that the offensive line is using effects the receivers because it determines if we are taking safeties or if we are taking outside linebackers. We had to learn every line call because again if they are fanning out that changed the backside hot as well as the front side. I could break this down all day but I wont hold you guys any longer just basically wanted to say there is a lot more coaching going on then what meets the eye.

by 21nole24 on Apr 6, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions  

umm

thats not holding us…that was interesting. MORE!

by Miaminole on Apr 6, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

News on Jones

Hearing he has had a hand injury this spring tells me a lot. He has not been known for fumbles and I still say he is going to be better than a lot of you think.

I don’t think Dawsey can baby sit them all and I don’t think he is going anywhere anytime soon. I think Fisher keeps him but I could be wrong. I also think he keeps Stroud he is a pretty knowledgeable professional.

by DocHoliday2 on Apr 6, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Jones has a lot of potential. he will not and should not get carries in a meaningful game until he is at 215+lbs. He’s not shifty or fast. He’s a leverage momentum runner, and he needs that bulk/ strength to be effective at a high level.

Dawsey shouldn’t be expected to babysit these kids at 430am.

Excellent call on Stroud, forgot all about him.

by Bud Elliott on Apr 6, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree Dawsey can't babysit them

Noone can really babysit them. However, things can be done day to day to teach them discipline and prevent the majority of this nonsense. So, I place alot of blame on the guy responsible for discipline on the team. Quick, can anyone tell me who that is (sarcasm)? He would probably suggest to make all the receivers to dress in the visitor’s locker room. Yeah, that’ll show em!

by Nole-ando on Apr 6, 2009 7:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey whoever took the last two pictures...

You can see me in the background. I’m the one with the gray shirt with my jersey around my neck. Third row up. Boy was it too hot to have my jersey on.

by DA-2 on Apr 6, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Great info guys.

I appreciate the in depth review of the Spring game. I have mixed feelings about Ponder, I’m glad he stepped up better and didn’t take any 15 step drops, but it seems like he didn’t really throw the ball well. I’m surprised our rbs didn’t do better too.

by fsunole23 on Apr 6, 2009 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

From what little video I have seen Ponder still seems to stare down WRs.

For those of you in attendance, thoughts? Maybe EJ can push and possibly replace Christian if things are not up to snuff come mid-season.

by badknees81 on Apr 6, 2009 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Ponder definitely stared down the WRs. There was one play that was a fade to the endzone from about 20 yards out

and once Ponder got the snap he looked the receiver down. He really didn’t seem to progress on his checkdowns. He still threw the ball into double coverage, but his dropbacks have gotten much better.

by basbalstr101 on Apr 6, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

FSUun....

a little off topic, but didnt you post an interview with todd stroud about the weight gain make by the d line and linebackers over the past months… it looked encouraging…

do you know if our defense is still trying to but on the pounds??

Great Post by the way….

by pcnole on Apr 6, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions  

By the way....

Excellent job putting all this together and to all the contributors. Great, great read. Enjoyed it as much as I could considering the sober message.

by Miaminole on Apr 6, 2009 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Tharinger

Says Jeff Luc liked his visit to FSU so much FSU is now in the drivers seat.

by DocHoliday2 on Apr 7, 2009 12:11 AM EDT reply actions  

HUGE

Luc would be a huge pickup! He’s beastly, like our guy Bradham.

by CSI Nole on Apr 7, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

FSUn

check your email… sent you about 40 pics!!! :o)

by CSI Nole on Apr 7, 2009 12:28 AM EDT reply actions  

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Utah wide receiver Jereme Brooks (85) celebrates a touchdown with teammates during the first half of an NCAA college football game against Pittsburgh on Thursday, Sept. 2, 2010, in Salt Lake City. (AP Photo/Steve C. Wilson)

No. 15 Pittsburgh Rallies In Fourth Quarter, But Loses To Utah In Overtime, 27-24

HONOLULU - SEPTEMBER 2:  Ronald Johnson #83 of the University of Southern California Trojans runs in for a touchdown against Corey Nielsen #8 of the University of Hawaii Warriors during first half action at Aloha Stadium September 2 2010 in Honolulu Hawaii. (Photo by Kent Nishimura/Getty Images)

Lane Kiffin Is Victorious In Debut, No. 14 USC Wins In A Shootout At Hawaii, 49-36

South Carolina quarterback Stephen Garcia, left, celebrates a first-quarter touchdown with South Carolina tackle Kyle Nunn, center, and South Carolina guard Rokevious Watkins, right, during the first half of their NCAA college football game against Southern Mississippi, Thursday, Sept. 2, 2010, at Williams-Brice Stadium, in Columbia, S.C.  (AP Photo/Brett Flashnick) link

South Carolina Rolls Over Southern Miss, Wins 41-13

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