Wednesday Open Recruiting Thread 05.13.09
Been a long three weeks, eh?
First off, the 2010 Recruiting Big Board (while the names might not be added/removed at first, they will be)
ADDED:
- WR/DB Willis Wright, Miami Springs. The coaches visited him this week. My understanding is that Wright wants to play WR in college, but Miami wants him to play S. A comparison would be Downs at WR. Also, on his college choice. Miami people seem to think that he is a "stay at home" kid. Meaning that he will go to Miami if they offer. If they don't, it is likely he will go to FIU. Take it for what it's worth.
- DE Theodore "Man-Man" Jackson, Armwood. Unlikey to qualify though he is a beast.
- Shawn Green, DT
REMOVED:
- RB Storm Johnson, he will play in the SEC.
- WR DaRick Rogers, who will play in the SEC.
- WR Ted Meline, no interest from either party.
- WR Jeremy Richardson, from Alabama, no shot.
- DE Craig Sanders, no shot.
- S Jarrick Williams, will stay in state.
- CB Demarcus Milliner, from Alabama who will stay in state.
- DB Jeremi Wilkes. I can't see FSU taking this kid. Unimpressive film.
- OL Jose Jose, committed to Tennessee
- DE Delvin Jones, no interest
- C Erick Mack, No Interest
The coaches have been everywhere these past weeks. Jimbo has been everywhere, the man is a machine. The coaches are traveling in packs, and that makes quite the impression on kids. No other school is sending its entire coaching staff (or most of it) to visit a single prospect like FSU is. This is where Jimbo can really make his mark. Head coaches aren't allowed to visit right now, but Jimbo isn't our head coach ;) We intend to visit every high school in the state of Florida.
Some of the notable prospects visited:
- CB Lamarcus Joyner and STA
- WR Christian Green and OL Chaz Green
- LB Jeff Luc (we sent six coaches, UF sent one)
- Basically every school in South Florida
- 2011 ATH Karlos Williams
- Maryland DL JR Ferguson (we told you about this one two weeks ago when one of our readers tipped us that he overheard O'Dell's phone conversation).
- Current commit Chad Abrams
- The Byrnes Trio: Lattimore, Miller, and Willis:
Coaches from Florida State were by James F. Byrnes High School in Duncan, S.C., to check in on Under Armour All-American defensive lineman Corey Miller, running back Marcus Lattimore and defensive lineman Brandon Willis.The Noles are in good shape for all three prospects and Lattimore said afterward that he hopes to make another unofficial visit to Tallahassee soon. The Noles, along with Georgia and Auburn are in the lead group for the talented back.
I spoke with quite a few prospects over the past month and they all echoed the same sentiment. FSU consistently showed that they need these guys. Our coaches are showing these kids how the program has talent, but lacks depth, and that there are opportunities to be coached by some excellent coaches and maybe start early. The other thing that all say is that our coaches are very "real." Some coaches BS kids a lot, but ours take the exact opposite approach, telling them it will take hard work, nothing is promised, etc.
Don't Believe the Hype:
- STA's Gio Bernard is not coming here.
- DB Cody Riggs will not attend FSU.
- Auburn landing stud runningbacks. Malzahan doesn't have his offensive line coach who was also the genius behind his running game at Arkansas and Tulsa. They will fade down the stretch.
- DT Calvin Smith will most likely not sign with FSU, more than likely he signs with Illinois.
- I don't think we get DE Corey Lemoiner (Miami lock) and neither does Tharinger.com:
Hialeah(FL) DE Corey Lemonier claims a top 2 of UF and Miami. The Hurricanes are the favorite by a good margin. Lemonier also has Florida State, Tennessee, and Alabama still on his radar.
- De'Joshua Johnson isn't a lock to go to FSU
The biggest news out of today's practice came from De'Joshua Johnson. Throw away the notion that Johnson is a surefire Seminole. It will be a slugfest between Alabama and FSU. Johnson made it clear to me today that Alabama is neck and neck with FSU.
Have to remember here that Bama has a great chance of being undefeated when DJ decides. Still, I think he's going to be a Nole. Let's hope we don't take it for granted.
Encouraging Notes:
- FSU still leads for Terrence Mitchell:
"It's a top of the line program," he said. "I mean it's Florida right now. It used to be Miami and soon it will be Florida State again. The defense is real good and I think I could start right away. I just need to perform when I get there."
- Miami Central WR Josh Reese:
"With Florida State, they came to the school to check on me and the quarterback here (Jeffery Godfrey) and they brought like 3-to-4 coaches," Reese said. "They are recruiting me very hard. I like the program and I like the way they run their offense.
Reese said that he wants to play where Godfrey plays.
Godfrey recently named FSU his leader, and he's really the only QB the Noles are likely to take at this point. Landing the trio from Central (with Gainer being the top) would be huge. It would also give us an in with their 2011 stud wideout Charles Gaines Jr."That's very important," he said. "That's what we are trying to do is all three of us (along with running back Brandon Gainer) play at the same school. I don't know if it will work out or not, but we will see how things go."
- FSU does lead for Lamarcus Joyner, but it's a slight lead.
- Tharinger.com:
Miami(FL) WR Quinton Dunbar will not be a Miami Hurricane from what I'm told. Dunbar, who de-committed from Miami recently, is getting the cold shoulder from the Canes and Randy Shannon. He'll most likely end up at Michigan, Florida, FSU, or Tennessee.
This definitely doesn't help relations between BTWHS and Miami.
- From Gridironstuds.com:
Pahokee wide receiver DeJoshua Johnson has been invited to the Army All American Game
- Ultra talented WR/DB James Louis (much more later) hasapparently backed off his UF lean, after seeing how bad they are at putting players in the NFL and more importantly-- having guys succeed in the NFL. Louis will be a tremendous lock down corner in college - if he realizes it.
- From Noleinsider.com (still a great site even after Jamey Givens left): rumblings that Miami and Booker T. Washington high have a tenous relationship, at best.
- Luke Stampini of SoFlaFootball.com thinks that FSU & WVU are the schools to watch for Demar Dorsey. Do we want Dorsey in this program? There are rumored character concerns.
In this report, Steve Ellis tells us that FSU TE Coach and Recruiting Coordinator James Coley is not concerned with the current lack of commits. They note that last year's high early output was fueled by a wealth of local prospects. Coley said that he's given out 100 offers, and that FSU does a great job of only taking a kid's commitment when they are very solid that the kid will stick (only 1 kid decommitted last year). The state of Florida will continue to be the staff's main focus, with other dips into southern Georgia.
ESPN Scouting Reports:
Chad Abrams
Abrams is a very alert and instinctive free safety. He has good size and range for the position. Rarely out of position and show the ability to play effectively from either three deep or cover two. Gets a great break on passes in his zone; covers a lot of territory quickly. Aware of receivers breaking to the outside or in front of him. Anticipates who the quarterback is going to by route progression and often makes the interception or separates the receiver from the football. A true running threat once he makes the pick due to his athletic skills, quickness and agility. Loose hips and can change direction on a dime. Physical when coming up on run support or laying the wood on wideouts. Must be conscious of wrapping up the ball carrier especially in the openfield. A true centerfielder as a free safety in three cover; good field general. A solid special teams player that shows the talents to block punts; quick off the snap and runs through the block point to swat the football off the punters foot. Often the first guy down on kick off coverage and shows the knack to run by blockers and make openfield tackles. Abrams is a very productive safety that has all the tools to excel at that position. He should be an early contributor at the next level.
Wow, that is a glowing report. Maybe we got ourselves a gem very early? Abrams was receiving a lot of interest before he committed. It's encouraging to see our coaches offer a prospect and then see the experts evaluate him and confirm the quality of our offer.
James Louis: (more later)
This young man can flat out run. He possesses some of the best quickness and acceleration of any receiver in this class and he can be a dangerous weapon in all three phases of the passing game. Louis has adequate size and while he doesn't look quite as tall as his listed height, he is a good leaper and exceptional athlete that can track the deep ball as well as anyone. He is very similar to last years Andre DeBose now at Florida. Can play inside or outside and off the line gets from 0-60 MPH's in the blink of an eye. Gets over the top of defenders in a hurry. He has a good feel for attacking coverage, is very quick in and out of his cuts and shows he can get separation. Eats up cushion and has stop and start ability for double moves and burst off the cut that is rare. Gets into his routes quickly and shows outstanding burst in all his change-of-direction skills. He simply knows how to get open and once he is in space you had better have 11 bodies running to the football because he possesses the ability to make two and three defenders miss in a short area of space and then take it to the house. This is a guy that will win most footraces once in the open field. His hands are excellent and he has shown the ability to make acrobatic and leaping grabs on balls thrown outside of his catch radius. If he plucks on the move on underneath routes and catches a seam, look out. Catches away from his body, consistently protects the football and does a good job of getting upfield immediately. This is a player that is not going to be an imposing threat or big redzone weapon. He must physically bulk up so that he does not get outmuscled at the line or versus tight coverage down field. Overall, Louis can create mismatches and big plays. He is at his best when threatening vertically and getting the ball in space underneath. We expect him to develop into a premier pass catcher at the next level. Outstanding prospect.
I think Louis should be a CB. He has all the tools: hips, acceleration, speed, and he can hit. We should still make a pitch to him as a CB - sell our history at that position. He could be a lock down corner with great NFL potential at that position. He grew up a Florida State fan. Our coaching staff should say, "Terrell Buckley is a former NFL all pro and one of the greatest cornerbacks in Seminole history. Mickey Andrews has seen countless NFL corners. They both want you as a corner. You see? You have NFL potential at the position." If we land Louis, he would be slightly behind Joyner in terms of potential and talent.
Some sleepers I would love to evaluate right now:
- DE Theodore "Man-Man" Jackson (Armwood) 6'2' 250 (estimate). This kid has a very quick first step off the ball. He will have to gain weight in college, but you can't teach that movement in a defensive lineman. FILM RIGHT HERE, IMPRESSIVE. There is a reason they call him 'Man-Man' around Armwood. UPDATE: Per Charles Fishbein, Jackson has a very very long way to go to get qualified. Armwood might be looking into placing him into a JuCo already. Maybe this will be another Amp McCloud situation, kind of a sign and place. Fish also relayed that the kid is super talented and would be top rated this year.
- Safety EJ Johnson (Cocoa) 6'1 180. This is Phillip Thomas part two, and we can make up for the mistake we made last year. This kid is truly a ballhawk, and I wrote about him back in March. Kid sees the ball and he gets to it. He had three picks in the state game against Godby. MORE IMPRESSIVE FILM RIGHT HERE.
I hope we have room to take these kids. I also believe that we will use these prospect's senior seasons as a barometer for an offer. We shouldn't give them an offer right now, but get senior evals in. Also, many, many, many thanks to SunshinePreps for the great "Media Players" that site puts together. They are a very useful tool when you want to see a prospect.
More nice film from SunshinePreps:
- CB Terrence Mitchell (5'11 170, Hillsborough HS) Mitchell is probably our top target after Joyner at the CB position. He can really lay the wood, and he has some impressive speed. We are thought to be in really good position with him. Our coaches have been on him for some time.
- CB Terrence Brooks (5'11 180, Dunnellon HS) Brooks might be a kid that flies under the radar a bit. Another CB prospect that will lay the wood, Brooks is quite the athlete as well. You can see his speed from the video. If the Gators don't offer (it appears they won't), we are in great shape here.
If we land both of these CBs to go with Joyner, it will be the most physical group of CBs in the country. All can run too. Most importantly, they all have great COD (change-of-direction) and can accelerate to the ball.
More video:
LB/S Jeremiah George:
We are currently recruiting George as a safety, but I think he will be a linebacker in college. He really has come impressive closing burst. I think George would be a nice take if Jeff Luc doesn't work out OR if we want to take four linebackers in this class. He is a little on the small side at 5'10 190. How does he fit into Jimbo's plan for the defense?
DL/OL Antonio Ford:
Antonio Ford from SoFLAfootball.com on Vimeo.
Ford is another Pahokee player that many think we should offer. I don't know however. Luke Stampini of www.soflafootball.com seems to think he is on the same level as Richard Ash, who I am extremely high on. We have shown little interest of late. FSUncensored's note: I don't think he has the same potential as Ash.
FSU USING TECHNOLOGY:
While Bobby Bowden doesn't know what the internet is (confusing it with E-bay), James Coley certainly does. Coley is helping our staff stay in the technology race, though we are still far behind most schools.
Follow him here: http://twitter.com/CoachColey. My favorite tweets:
Every morning in Africa, a Gazelle wakes up. It knows it must run faster than the fastest lion or it will b killed
Every morning a Lion wakes up. It knows it must outrun the Gazelle or it will starve to death.
It doesn't matter whether you are a Lion or a Gazelle. When the sun comes up, you'd better be running
Hey Mr. Coley - I AM HIM - tell us where ya been - AROUND THE WORLD & IM BACK AGAIN - They've been asking - WHO'S BEEN ASKIN BOUT ME
When you meet adversity face to face, choke it untill you snap its neck - The
Check them out. They are all good and all are funny. SQUAD UP! It's basically just another way to talk to recruits.
Final Thought
UF is going to pull an all-time scary class. They are excellent and our fractured leadership dynamic has enabled them to ascend to where they are. That said, we will still pull an excellent class as well. All 3 of our current commits are on the ESPNU 150 Watch List, and I think we have a lot more who are very likely to commit. The state of Florida is loaded, and with Miami likely to struggle, we should continue to do well.
Question of the Day: Who do you think the five most important recruits in the class are?
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Good Stuff.....
D.J. Johnson….we can’t let him get away from us. BTW…Alabama will get beat by V.Tech.
I have a good feeling about Mitchell and Brooks at cb. Mitchell sounds like he’s already a NOLE.
If we get Godfrey, we get the other 2 Central kids.
I say recruit Louis to play the slot because it sounds like he’s hellbent on being a wr.
I though we might have swayed Calvin Smith. Anything new on your guy Ash.
Everyone might want to read twice, there's lots of info in there.
Also, you should watch the EJ Johnson video, very impressive. I would be fine with taking him. His burst after seeing the ball is impressive.
re: Demar Dorsey, I don’t think it’s a bad idea to take a questionable character person. The problem comes with taking multiple questionable character people. You’re going to have to take chances on some kids both on and off the field. If he’s a good player, I say take him and surrond him with kids that have their head on straight. It won’t ensure that he keeps his nose clean but it helps a bunch.
Great news on FSU using technology to recruit. I saw Mack Brown on TV the other day using the Skype video feature to talk with recruits. The more a recruit sees you, and not just hears you on the phone, the better your chances of pulling him in. Hopefully we’ll move this way more and more as the old coaching staff leaves.
Speaking of coaching staff, do we know who Fisher is considering besides T-Buck for defensive positions? I thought I’ve read on this site in the past that he had people in mind so I wasn’t sure if that was inside information or just speculation.
I think DB has got to be our most important position of need. We are a bit thin there now and with the ACC rule change it could make covering WRs harder. Honestly, what’s the use of putting your WRs on the line if you can give them a running start? Even bigger WRs should fair better because they aren’t as likely to be bumped. Conversely DBs are going to struggle a bit more as they won’t have the momentum required to jam WRs.
For the defensive positions......
some possibilities….
Stroud for the DEs
Manny Diaz
Hudson from ECU (don’t want)
ST-o-mind nice job you got a lot of info going on here.
Its good to know that we are going to hit up every school in the st because Im sure there are a lot of kids out there not getting looked at but could be great. Also Its nice the Jimbo can go out on the road.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
5 most important for the 2010 class..?
My list, in order…
1) Jeff Luc (Depth at linebacker is the worst on the team)
2) Christian Green (Seems he is overlooked, but I think he’ll be the best WR of the class)
3) Lamarcus Joyner (Shutdown corners are worth their weight in gold)
4) Debrale Smiley (Will be ready right away, Lattimore is still young)
5) Amp McCloud (Will be able to come in and get immediate playing time on the DL)
"We're not maxed out, ... The best is still ahead of us."
Bobby Bowden
Wow...always a wealth of information...very imformative, thanks.
I do have a question (and don’t take this the wrong way I love the site and content)…How do you get your evaluations…I only ask because I assume that most contributors here have a day job, and don’t go out and evaluate the players. I can only assume that it comes from other evals, and youtube clips (i.e. – the Jeff Bowden method).
I only point this out, because I know we have been hard on the staff for not pursuing certain players, or saying “we don’t want this guy”, “we should go after him” when all most of us has seen is a 3 minute clip of the guys “best plays”.
Evals
It looks to me like they use ESPN’s evaluations as well as soflafootball’s. I am sure they get them from other places also.
Man....that is a lot of data.
Thanks for putting all of that together.
1)Lamarcus Joyner
2)Jeff Luc
3)Christian Green
4)Marcus Lattimore
5)Jeff Godfrey (Huge strategic get.)
Cedat Fortuna Peritis
Gio Bernard
I always thought his hype was due to him playing at a known football factory and not his on the field ability, despite his good numbers.
Defense is not the problem.
STA - kinda off topic
I can’t believe Aquinas has become such a powerhouse. I went there around the turn of the century, and back then the team was nothing more than a couple decent athletes sprinkled in amongst a bunch of undersized and well-disciplined players. We’d always get to the championship game or close to it, and then finally lose to a much more talented team, usually Lakeland. We often weren’t the best team in Broward County, and now the school is consistently one of the most talented in the country. I guess they’ve increased the number of “academic” scholarships since I left.
by Mr. Tito Carlos on May 13, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
You must of hit a rough spot, cause they were dominant in the early 90s too.
Defense is not the problem.
I was there 95-99
Are you sure they were dominant in the early 90s? I know they were always good in the mid to late 80s and I feel like they fell off during the early to mid 90s when George Smith left for a few years. He came back and they picked it back up. I thought the rough patch was like 90-94. I could be wrong about exact years, but that was the general trend.
And when I was there, they were always dominant locally and one of the better teams in the state. I wasn’t trying to insinuate STA was bad in the late 90s. They were far from it. My point was that it was more the product of a team that was well coached, and “just” pretty good athletically. There was always one or two decent athletes on the team, but nothing like this. We had a handful of kids get offers to BCS schools while I was there. Now it seems like at least half the starters are going to a major D-I school. The talent level is definitely way above anything that I have seen since I started going there.
by Mr. Tito Carlos on May 13, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
1991 - I know they made it to state championship-
But got pulverized by the FWB team led Danny Wuerrfel and E.G. Green.
My five most important recruits in order
1. Christian Green – Most think him committing is a forgone conclusion, I hope so we need play makers a.s.a.p.
2. DJ Johnson – Same as above.
3. LaMarcus Joyner – Secondary needs some speed and talent.
4. Terrence Mitchell – Same as above.
5. Corey Miller – Part of the Byrnes trio, if we land him our chances increase for his talented teammates.
Defense is not the problem.
They could be recruiting in packs
so Jimbo can show these guys exactly how he wants recruiting done when he is head coach and doesnt have the access during these time periods.
Recruiting in packs
Ya but the people who are with him most of the time are Coley, Andrews, Amato, and either Allen or Carter. Out of those four only Coley will stay once Bobby leaves.
Andrews & Amato are with JF on the recruiting trail?
that would be interesting if true.
Heck, if we continue to recruit like this, we don’t need any other coaches to pass the recruiting test… :)
http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2009/5/12/873625/bobby-bowden-is-pathetic
Defense is not the problem.
blacklisted
I got banned from that site for saying “POS”
LMAO.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on May 13, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Top 5 recruits I'd want
1. Joyner
2. Lattimore
3. Luc
4. C Green
5. Godfrey
I don’t know how Brandon Willis missed the list… I will say that if we don’t get him I would be extremelly dissapointed, he is going to be a great college player.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
If Florida is putting out the most amazing recruiting class ever...
Can we ever expect to beat them? Unless Meyer or Strong take jobs elsewhere, Gator nation will continue to be superior to FSU. I don’t get why some school hasn’t offered Strong yet.
Just wants to beat the Gators
The situation UF is in is similar to the one we were in back in 2000.
FSU in 2000 was fresh off the national title, had a revamped weight room with a strong nucleus returning, Most thought Pete would leave but a new car from Weinke helped him stay. Most thought we would repeat, we almost did. Our recruiting classes in ’00 and ’01 were otherworldly, however we forgot the most important piece, a QB. Along with the loss of Richt(similar to UF losing Mullen) things began to quickly unravel for us in the early part of this decade.
Defense is not the problem.
by badknees81 on May 13, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mullen is important...
But you can’t tell me that Mullen’s value to the Gators is the same that Richt was to FSU. Meyer will most likely pick up the slack. B. Bowden could not. I’m going to bet that Meyer can take care of the offense, but that defense is held up by that good DC.
Just wants to beat the Gators
Great post.
I think we also lost sight of what we were looking for in position coaches,. When you don’t get out and travel, you don’t meet the great new young coaches. Instead, you turn to people you’re familiar with, and familiarity can’t be the qualification to coach on an elite level staff.
Our QB luck with JJ’s culinary skills, Joe Mauer going pro after Minny didn’t take Prior, Adrian being a criminal, Fabian getting hurt, and Rix never developing and being Tony Romo lite, was for the most part, not our own doing.
Downfall of UF will be
Their offensive scheme. The NFL already seems to be deciding that Spread QBs are too far behind in their development to spend high draft picks on. Add to that the fact that the NFL talking heads on ESPN were saying after the draft that Harvin could only run one route, the drag. And even with all of Meyer’s screaming and whining Tebow works out for the 32 teams I have no doubt his stock as a QB will drop. One of the analysts on either ESPN or Rivals even commented recently that the HS QBs at the camps have been having so much trouble because a lot of them are spread guys who can’t take 3 and 5 step drops and throw a good ball. Imagine what happens when one of those guys spends 3 or 4 years as a Gator.
The kids needed to succeed in the SEC and in the arms race between the big 3 all want to go pro. Once QBs, WRs and maybe even HBs see that Meyer’s system will not get them to the level they want to be FSU and Miami will have the advantage again. Or at least they will as long as the Noles and Canes coach good pro style fundamentals.
by osceolafan850 on May 13, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
The downfall of UF will be out of state recruiting.
They will forget their base, just as we did. Watch.
My top 5:
1. Joyner
2. Christian Green
3. Amp McCloud
4. Jeff Luc or maybe Christian Jones
5. Corey Miller
Also, anybody that reads/posts here located in Coral Springs, FL?
RB/S Devon Wright, the most underrated player in Florida, goes to nearby Taravella High School. Anyone here seen him play? He has good size (6-0, 190, 4.4). Some have said that FSU leads. I want some film.
So you think the 2000s Bobby is good for the program.
Bobby built a legend and and a dynasty, and he destroyed them both.
I wish he had a name change in 2001
Like… “call me Robert!” Then we could complain about Robert and still laud Bobby.
Bowden really needs to shut up.
Think about this… when is the last time he said something that made you think “this puts FSU in a positive light and reflects well on us going forward, I’m glad he said that.”
I love him too... for what he did for 20 years... and for being a really nice guy to everyone.
I just wish he had a handler, or someone to prep him better for press conferences and the like. This appeal and the comments taunting the NCAA (crooks that they are) just bring continual negative press to our school. Will those comments help the appeal? I do not think so.
I'll volunteer to be the handler.
I’ll work for free if they’ll expense a cattle prod. And I want real Depends™, not that Assurance™ BS I see at Walgreens. Real Assuring when I’m walking in puddles behind my Head-Coach-In-Denial on his way to his next motivational speech. “At my age you don’t care anymore,” or something brilliant like that. * ZAAAAAPPP!! * Coach Burden will light up the room like it’s 1976!
Awesome, awesome, awesome stuff as always, SOM and TN crew.
Agreed, but we have to get a hammer in here in case Vince doesn't start
I do think he will start. His dad has implied that the coaches promised he would play, and we can’t afford not to have our best possible shot at Karlos.
Alex Welch received an offer from Oklahoma today. They are the immediate leader in the clubhouse.
Resident Josh Freeman fan.
So ThaRinger thinks...
We have a good shot at the kids from Burns/SC including Lattimore, and the kids from Miami Central including Gainer, and Smiley says he’s 100% FSU, are really going to take 3 RBs in the next class? Also, if we want 4 WRs, assuming Shaw, Johnson, and Green are all there, are we going to take Reese over Pickett(sp?) or Dunkley?
"We're not maxed out, ... The best is still ahead of us."
Bobby Bowden
Dunkley > Reese > Pickett
But I don’t think we have any shot at Dunkley. I’m sure Warchant or someone will get some quotes, but this kid will play for an SEC school, as will Lattimore. They are too good to go to the ACC. This SEC contract is really bad news for FSU fans. Their exposure eill skyrocket.
by Bud Elliott on May 14, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't put it out of consideration.
It was the state of Alabama. I don’t put anything past an SEC program.
oh I know about about the Governor
I’m just referring to the supposed silent commit that he gave Jimbo (I don’t like it).
Gary Brown?
If that’s who you’re referring to, I think I heard the same about GB giving a silent commit and then signing with UF anyways.
other rumor
I heard was that Gary’s girlfriend was going to attend or was attending FSU and that he was 50/50 on UF/FSU. Oh well… GB never read your Dear Gary Brown piece, lol…
Oh, my bad. I don't believe that whole "julio was a silent since seminole showtime" thing.
I believe the whole Gary Brown thing, secrets visits, FSU silent, UF runner visiting the house the night before NSD and all.
Do you think Miller and Willis will come here w/o Lattimore?
"We're not maxed out, ... The best is still ahead of us."
Bobby Bowden
Lattimore
I don’t recall FSU being on his radar until recent. I believe Willis and Miller were high on FSU from awhile back. It’s been said that Auburn is on top of several top RB’s lists. If thats the case, it would only help our chances in landing Lattimore. It could be a battle between UGA/FSU for his services. FSU lands Miller and Willis, our chances would only get better.
Why do we feed this SEC nonsense?
Do we really want to tell kids reading this that they are too good to go to an ACC school? Maybe they are too good to go to Duke, UVA, or Maryland….
They are certainly not too good to go to FSU.
right. They have a megadeal now
ESPN’s coverage of the SEC is going to go through the roof.
by Bud Elliott on May 14, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
ACC
I think they’ll continue to get better as a whole. I also like to think that the ACC has some decent HC’s now, who are competent and could very well bring the conference to another level of play.
There’s alot of history in the SEC and they’ve won 3 or 4 NC’s in the past decade? Conference play in the SEC/2008 was overrated, IMO. The top dogs will continue to be UF, Bama and the occasional LSU/UGA/Auburn/Ole Miss in the next couple years.
if I had to rank them
I’d do it in Tier’s (not in order)
UF
Bama
VTech
LSU
FSU
Clemson
Ole Miss
UNC
GTech
Arkansas
Georgia
NCState
Tennessee
SoCarolina
Miami
Auburn
BC
Maryland
Wake
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
MissSt
Duke
Virginia
My Top 5???
1) STA
2) Duncan Byrnes
3) Pahokee
4) Miami Central
5) And sprinkle in a couple JUCO’s
I want them all!!! :)
Keion Payne
bit from www.soflafootball.com
One college coach I talked to thought he was the best CB in South Florida. Hope to get to STA soon.
High praise (but Joyner plays S in HS). I think he earns a written offer his SR season.
Good read.
I hope we can land Joyner, I really like what I see in the kid. Hopefully we can stop Saban from stealing Johnson away from us.

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