Monday Morning Tomahawks 5.28.09
Computer malfunction last night means a short list of links today.
Added to the scouting report http://www.philsteele.com/online/2009Top40/28GEORGIATECH.pdf (Phil Steele is great)
Georgia Tech will become what is believed to be the first college to outsource its ticket operations for football and men's basketball, the Sports Business Journal's John Lombardo and Michael Smith report.
and this...
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/may/27/270012/sp-show-them-the-money/sports-colleges-gators/
The ACC gets the nod as the highest-paying conference among offensive coordinators, thanks to Florida State's Jimbo Fisher earning a hefty $630,375 salary as FSU's offensive coordinator/head coach-in-waiting.
Although FSU's Bobby Bowden makes about $1 million a year less than Meyer, Bowden is still the ACC's highest-paid head coach. Also, FSU has the distinction of being the nation's only school with four assistants - Fisher, defensive coordinator Mickey Andrews, linebackers coach Chuck Amato and offensive line coach Rick Trickett - making more than $300,000.
Sports Illustrated's Andy Staples with an excellent piece on why making the coaches poll anonymous is a ridiculous idea:
The AFCA decided to keep the final regular-season coaches' poll ballots secret. The change, which was unanimously passed by the 16-member board, starts in '10. If coaches don't want to be held accountable, they shouldn't be part of the process
More to come.
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So if this information is correct...
“Although FSU’s Bobby Bowden makes about $1 million a year less than Meyer, Bowden is still the ACC’s highest-paid head coach. Also, FSU has the distinction of being the nation’s only school with four assistants – Fisher, defensive coordinator Mickey Andrews, linebackers coach Chuck Amato and offensive line coach Rick Trickett – making more than $300,000.”
By my calculations we are roughly $1.6 million over budget (based on an estimate of Bobby Bowden only making $1mil a year) If Bowden makes what I suspect which is nearly $2mil a year, then we are about $2.6million over budget.
Lets give (The) Trickett a raise, give Jimbo the title to match the responsibilities he’s meeting, plus a raise, and totally revamp the defensive side of the ball.
I wouldn’t even mind them building a statue of Mickey AFTER he retires.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
As numerous program insiders have mentioned,
Amato causes a ton of internal disputes and is only here (and I mean only) because Bobby and the old guard (including the old boosters) are familiar with him and are comforted by his past reputation. Unfortunately, he is now our worst recruiter, having pulled zero decent SoFla recruits in his three years back, his supposed specialty, and he isn’t long for FSU.
Mickey Andrews will have the practice facility named after him, and rightfully so. I also expect Jimbo to tear down Bobby’s tower. Never again will we have a head coach who has a connection to the team equal to what the baseball coach has to the football team.
Erecting statutes of current employees moves them to a diety level and causes all sorts of organizational problems, as Fsued and numerous others have described here (use the search feature).
Someone recently told me that Trickett hates working for Bowden and will not sign long term until he’s sure Bowden is out.
Amato getting more than $300K for what he does
makes me want to vomit. Just another BAD decision by Bowden contrary to FSU’s interests— one that warrants tearing the statue down for that reason alone.
by PeachTreeNole on May 28, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd love to see Amato be forced to justify his job.
Linebacker play has been atrocious and he hasn’t pulled in a single legitimate recruit from South Florida. He’s actually only pulled one recruit total and that’s Maurice Harris.
He’s failing at coaching his position and he’s failing horribly at recruiting…
I think its funny that he is a gigantic pink elephant in the room that the FSU Administration fails to acknowledge.
Going on their mentality of unconditional support for anyone who was associated with the program during the glory years, I’d like my $300,000 check too please. I attended every home game from 1992 – 1996 except 2 and those were sold out Miami games. And I worked for the FSU Maintenance Department as a college job and painted the football field each year. I bet I have more sweat on that field than Amato does in all the years he’s “coached”.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
So if we lost BB, MA, and Chuck the clow how much money would that free up.
Also what kind of raise would JF be looking at. I have no problem over paying a coach as long as they are doing something. MA is trying to get the Def ready. He might not get it done because hes just set in his ways but hes out there trying. BB is doing more than Chuck and thats sad because BB is just getting a paycheck and talking to the papers. All chuck does is get his check and goes strait to the waffle house. What is worst. you could go to Lincon or Godby and get a coach there that is better than him and for 1/2 as much. hell the LB might even get better.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
About 3.3 Million
But we’d need to give Jimbi about 1.5 Mil more, raising him to 2.1 Mil.
So we’d still save 1.5 million, even paying Trick daddy some more.
fine by me. I think JF and trickett earned it.
I dont think anyone could say they dont.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
I agree about the statue part. And let’s not forget the stained window or naming the field after him. FSU really go itself in a spot when they did all this to honor BB when he still coached. How can FSU get rid of him after doing all that and not have a firestorm of criticism? Nothing wrong with honoring BB but my gosh do it after he retired.
Where would this firestorm of criticism come from at this point?
And how would it be worse than the criticism we’re receiving now / our continuing fall from grace / etc. / fill in the blank / you name it / I think you know where I’m going with this? Not being confrontational, just being serious about this. Not that the conversation really matters anymore since everyone’s now resigned to Bowden and whoever else being here until after 2010 anyway. And then they’ll be resigned to him being here until after then if need be. What Uncensored said: I’d love to see a symbolic (because it so would be) tearing down of the tower. Maybe put the statue in it and have it crash through the stained glass. Now I’m just dreaming.
Well we could always win a NC sometime in the next 8 years
Then tear down the stadium and build another keep the name but lose the at BB field part.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Where is the outrage from the boosters?
Seems to me that the boosters need to be the catalyst for pushing Chuck, at least, out the door. I mean, come on, if its this obvious to us casual and some not so casual observers of the program, then where is the outrage? 300K goes a long long way towards other coaches, facility upgrades, you name it. Jeff Bowden would still be here if not for the outrage and subsequent payoff through the boosters support.
I agree with Desman, at least Mickey tries to earn what he gets, out dated as it may be, Andrews still tries hard to make a good defense. I am surprised he hasnt come out alone to say that Chuck is not needed nor wanted by this organization.
Our main boosters are very old and they do not understand.
They fear change just like Bobby fears death upon retirement.
by Bud Elliott on May 28, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
They fear our team being better than mediocre?
I know what you meant, I’m just trying to assess what they are REALLY afraid of.
When you are having consistent 7-6 seasons, change is needed. 9-4 last year could have easily been another 7-6 if you replaced Ronald McDonald’s School for the Gifted and Martha Stewart’s Basket Weaving Technical Instituate with higher caliber teams… say the USF and BYU squads of last year?
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Fair enough,
but we really need to start playing some bad D1 schools, like FIU, or Rice, or Syracuse, etc. This idea that we will play 11 bowl teams is insane. This isn’t the NFL, you need your cupcakes. The Attrition is killer.
by Bud Elliott on May 28, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I agree with you FSUn,
the “anytime, anywhere” days are over if we ever want a NC again.
Look at the combined records of the last 5 national champion's out of conference opponents.
Heck, take a bigger set… since 200, the first BCSNCG, what is the best winning percentage by non-conference competition among participants?
what happened to anywhere anytime
I think playing 11 teams this year is going to be great for us win or lose. I have come to the idea that BB is not out tell 2010 now. Hes going to wait as long as he can. What ever. When Jimbo takes over its going to be going into 2011 and we will be looking good I think real good. and then in 2012 we will be going for the NC. I hate that we have to wait that long but #$%^ happens.
If we win a lot of games next year and make it 9-4 or 10-3 then wow we have got some dumb luck. and we can say we got to see some good games. If we go 7-6 or less its another reason to push BB out a year early. Its going to be about 3 to 4 years before I watch a FSU game that will take me back to the old days where I know we were going to kill the OU’s, UT’s and UF’s week in and week out.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
The final straw
for me was when the boosters were trying to buy out Jeff Bowden BB publicly said he urged him not to quit. Nothing else needed to be said after that. It demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was either disconnected, had no clue, had placed his own family above the program or a combination of all three.
There was simply no excuse for that. Someone should have set him down and talked about public relations and trying to establish some sense of reality.
What FSU has going for it right now is well functioning offense due to Fisher and Trickett, areas where BB was made to call for change. The rest of the program has still been mediocre.
If you are paying more in salaries than the rest of the ACC in a major college football recruiting hotbed, you need more than this.
I don’t doubt for a minute Trickett is fed up with BB. Who wouldn’t be. He has to look around and see someone like Chuckie making as much as him for doing nothing when Trickett could very well demand much much more salary wise somewhere else. I think he is being loyal to Fisher right now but that won’t last forever.
I think he understands there could well be a good situation in the making but I can see where he is impatient.
Spetman did not help the matter when he put off negotiations with Trickett’s representative with some talk about other situations having top priority. That was about the time Trickett interviewed at Illinois and Fisher went into damage control making it clear to all concerned that Trickett was a must as he knew how to “win football games.!”
That is still the bottom line I hope. The ideal situation would be for Wetherell and Spetman to sit down with BB and say look, in order for you to stay untill 2010 BB, Mickey is going to retire after 2009, Fisher is going to hire a DC and others to his liking and we won’t you to talk with the media and play golf. Try not to get in the way.
And by talk with the media, you mean "read prepared statements"
and stop running your mouth on stuff that continually places FSU in an unfavorable light.
Agreed
the kid who runs the sidelines next to Bobby holding his headset could do a better job with the media. Maybe we should we hire another assistant, call them an executive PR coach and pay them $300k to prepare statements for Bobby?
“I remember when i had my first beer..”
well we fire chuck and give this PR guy his job
Ill bet 20$ he does a better job.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry

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