The Non-Conference Games That Will Shape The 2009 College Football Season: #1 South Carolina @ North Carolina State
As regular readers know, TomahawkNation.com is obsessed with scheduling. We find it fascinating how teams can run materially different races and yet one can be crowned the winner over another at the end of the season. Often, evaluators turn to conference affiliations when judging a team, and that's why non-conference games are so important. With less than 100 days left until the start of college football season, Tomahawk Nation decided to take a look at the non-conference games that will shape the college football landscape in 2009.
As a general rule, the non-conference games that matter most to a conference's reputation are those in the first two weeks before the conference seasons begin, and those played during bowl season. The reason is simple: there aren't any conference battles going on and the games easily draw the attention of the media.
Last year the ACC took a big early hit after Alabama thumped Clemson, East Carolina upset Virginia Tech, and Maryland lost to Middle Tennessee State. It was such a bad opening weekend that much of the rest of the country stopped following ACC football, but the ACC was easily the best conference when they played the teams from the big 6 conferences. Examine:
| % of Games played against BCS Conference Competition | Combined Record of Each League's BCS conference competition | Winning % against BCS competition | |
| ACC | 48% | .652 | .598 |
| Big East | 39% | .563 | .573 |
| Big XII | 31% | .467 | .495 |
| Big 10 | 29% | .462 | .538 |
| Pac 10 | 45% | .429 | .607 |
| SEC | 31% | .400 | .578 |
The ACC played the most games against the other BCS conferences, and their opponents had the best winning percentages (meaning they played the good teams from the big conferences), yet the ACC had the 2nd best winning percentage against those squads.
Just as you wouldn't judge a conference on one bad weekend in november, it's equally stupid to render a final verdict as to a conference's strength based off the opening week.
Last August 28th, in yet another early season loss, South Carolina scored a huge blow for the SEC against the ACC, on national television. After a first half that saw 5 punts, two fumbles, three interceptions, and one missed field goal, South Carolina led 3-0 in Williams-Bryce Stadium (South Carolina). This was one of the ugliest football games I have ever seen. NCST Quarterback Russell Willson got knocked out cold
After that, it was all South Carolina, as the Gamecocks went up 13-0 to start the final quarter and Spurrier ran the score up to appease the alumni. Final: 38-0, Gamecocks.
But that might be different this year...
For the casual observer, NC State was one of the toughest teams to figure out last year. They started out the year 2-6, before winning their last 4 games to get bowl eligible. For those who followed the program closely, however, there was a pretty logical explanation for this turnaround: injuries. NC State lost an incredible 43 starts to injury last year (only 5 teams lost more). That lack of a consistent starting lineup hurt the Wolfpack early, particularly with Russell Wilson suffering from post concussion syndrome. They also suffered major injuries on the defensive side of the ball, losing star Linebacker Nate Irving.
The coaches sat Wilson for the South Florida contest to make sure he was over his concussion. Once Wilson came back, it was a whole new ballgame. NCST's offense exploded:
| Opponent | NCST Yards Per pLay |
| BC | 4.6 |
| FSU | 7.2 |
| @ Maryland | 4.8 |
| @ Duke | 6.4 |
| Wake Forest | 4.2 |
| @ UNC | 6.4 |
| Miami (Fl) | 6.5 |
Almost a 20% improvement over what they had been averaging before Wilson's comeback.
In fact, WIlson is on a streak of 249 passes without an interception, the longest such streak in the country.
With 15 returning starters, and a less than devastating level of injuries, the Wolfpack figure to be much better on offense and defense (where they were particularly hit hard by the injury bug). Their defensive line features 4 senior starters, including NFL prospects Willie Young Jr. and Alan-Michael Cash. In fact, NCST will have one of the most veteran lineups in the country on both sides of the ball, as they start 12 seniors, 5 juniors, 5 sophomores, and no freshmen.
South Carolina on the other hand faces far more uncertainty. Last year they had one of the best defenses in the country (15th by advanced metrics), and a terrible offense (75th by same).
On offense, the Gamecocks featured an average passing game behind QB's Chris Smelley and Stephen Garcia, throwing to senior Kenny McKinley and junior Jared Cook. The Cock's problem was in the run game, where only Auburn and Mississippi State were worse.
This year they lost RB Mike Davis, WR McKinley, TE Jared Cook, and both offensive tackles. That said, South Carolina's offense could be better with improved interior line play, provided that they don't have to slide one of their guards to tackle. Garcia takes over at QB and most feel that he is the most talented quarterback the Gamecocks have had in some time. If he can avoid off-field issues and not upset Steve Spurrier, he will have every opportunity to succeed at QB, seeing as the Gamecocks lost almost every major skill position player.
On the defensive side, the gamecocks were superb, as they had the league's 4th best overall defense (scroll down), 4th against the pass and 7th against the rush. As in the NC State game, the Gamecock defense repeatedly stopped their opponents, forcing turnovers and punts. The unit was visibly frustrated at times (see Florida) and sometimes lost their composure when the offense self destructed. They were hit hard by graduation, and rank 102nd in percentage of tackles returning. The Gamecocks lose 5 seniors in total, including NFL draft picks LB Jasper Brinkley and CB Captain Munnerlyn.
Their secondary will feature three underclassmen starters and Brinkley could be very difficult to replace, as there aren't many athletic 270lb linebackers available.
Last year the Gamecocks were favored by 10 and covered by a healthy margin in the end. This year, look for the Wolfpack to be the favorites by 3-7 points. Interesting Note: Carolina could be an underdog in as many as 8 of their 12 regular season games! That is a brutal schedule on par with those of Florida State, Miami, and Oklahoma.
If Carolina can find a running game and limit their turnovers, they can win this game. If no solution can be found for the ground attack, however, this one could get ugly quickly as the Wolfpack's defensive personnel are heavily skewed to playing the pass.
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Nice.
I knew NC State had some injuries, but I didn’t realize how bad they had it. They’re starting to get some of O’Brien’s recruits in there now, right?
This guy might be a very underrated evaluator and developer of talent. Consider that the year after O’Brien left BC, Senior QB Matt Ryan led the Eagles to an 11-3 record and an ACC Championship game appearance. I haven’t researched this, but I believe Raji, Herzlich and Ryan were all O’Brien recruits.
by FSUjab on Jun 1, 2009 9:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's a good point
He’s definitely capitalized on market inneficiency.
by FSUncensored on Jun 1, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he's a 60 yr old former Marine...
remind you of anyone?
by FSUjab on Jun 1, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think NC State handles them soundly
South Carolina just lost way too much talent on both sides of the ball. The environment at Carter-Finley should be at a fever pitch as well.
Munnerlyn, although undersized, had strong coverage skills.
I believe they lost their strong safety, Emmanuel Cook (?) who was one of the best defensive backs with run support in the country.
They have an All-American DE in Eric Norwood, but way too much else to replace on D.
They lost their top WR, RB, and two OT on the other side. I really like Jarvis Giles, but not sure how much PT he will get on the first game of his true freshman year.
If SC gets an early lead or stays close at Halftime, they have a shot. My money would be on NC State to win by 14+.
by Zach_Nole on Jun 1, 2009 10:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They did lose a lot
If you could name 10 2008 Gamecocks, I’ll bet that at least 7 are no longer on the team.
They also have the toughest schedule in the nation, per phil steele (we’re now 2nd, but keep that quiet)
by FSUncensored on Jun 1, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder what type of offensive scheme NC State is running/will run
They have an extremely mobile QB that is also an accurate passer.
On the other hand, they have two RB’s that excel with running up the gut (Toney Baker, Jai Eugene). WR may not be considered a position of strength, although they do have Donald Bowens returning from injury.
Do they run a shotugun/spread/zone blocking type offense?
Will they line up in the I-formation?
Not sure who the Offensive Coordinator is for the Wolfpack, but it will be interesting to see what type of scheme they employ.
by Zach_Nole on Jun 1, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He should be
I know he sat out the Spring (still recovering from Knee Surgery), but he should be ready to go for the Season.
He was supposed to be their best WR last year before his injury, so it will be interesting to see how effective he will be.
I just looked it up:
Top returning WR: Owen Spencer, Jarvis Williams, TJ Graham
Offensive Coordinator: Dana Bible
Bible was with Tom O’Brien at BC and has a pretty impressive resume. I don’t remember BC ever having a QB as mobile as Russell Wilson, so he may have to adjust his typical strategy based off his current personnel.
Anyone know anything on BIble?
by Zach_Nole on Jun 1, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's quality
Written some articles, I’ll try to pull them.
They destroyed us last year. 7.2 yards per play is sick. I suspect they will use Wilson’s legs more as a decoy.
by FSUncensored on Jun 1, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NC State Offensive Style
Zach_Nole, O’Brien and Bible like to run the same offense that BC is known for (obviously): pro-style QB with a cannon, strong experienced O-line, and RBs that can catch. They do a lot of short yardage plays to drive the field one step at a time, and they never run trick plays. It’s old-school, disciplined football.
But NC St is in the same situation they were in last year (just with more experience): two RBs and Wilson. They’ll probably run a lot of the same plays from last year: shot gun snap, roll right or left, look for a 5-10 yard throw, if no one is open Wilson runs for 20 yards; they run it up the gut every now-and-then; they also fake a run, throw it to the RB for 5-10 yards. O’Brien feels NC St’s O-line isn’t deep enough or experienced enough for pocket passing, so Wilson generally rolls out and just out runs the D-line. O’Brien knows that Wilson can buy enough time with his feet that any WR will be open eventually. This offensive scheme (along with the return of some injured starters on defense) won the Wolfpack 4 straight games to end the season, so it’s pretty effective.
by BadinBoarder87 on Jun 2, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Enjoyed your column...
Like you, I worry that our defense will be significantly worse this year. I do think it will come together as the season progresses as the talented personnel is there. The problem is that we’re inexperienced and will have to come together quickly as the season starts off with this tough game at NC State. Our offense, on the other hand, will be much better if spring practice is any indication. As long as Garcia stays clean and doesn’t get hurt, losing McKinley, Cook, and Davis won’t hurt too much. We will need to find someone to replace McKinley’s role as the featured wideout, but Cook and Davis weren’t significantly better than their backups. Frankly, I think this may be a high-scoring game against the ’Pack.
Garnet and Black Attack: A Blog by and for Gamecocks Fans. http://www.garnetandblackattack.com
by Gamecock Man on Jun 1, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm surprised to hear that about Cook
How do the two new tackles look?
I firmly believe that defense comes together faster than offeense, if it’s any consolation.
by FSUncensored on Jun 1, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm probably exagerrating about Saunders. Cook was very good.
But I do think Saunders will prove a capable replacement. I’m more worried about losing McKinley, to be honest.
The tackles could be solid, although I say that with hesitation based on prior experience. Jarriel King will likely play LT. He got some experience there last year and looked good at times, so-so at others. Hutch Eckerson or possibly Quentin Richardson will take the other spot. Neither has much experience so there’s a bit more uncertainty there. Overall, my understanding is that the new line coach had this group playing significantly better in the spring, so there’s that for what it’s worth.
I was surprised to hear that NC State’s offense played poorly in their spring game. I hear that Wilson played well but that the running game was non-existent and the line had trouble protecting Wilson. That could be bad news for them if we can generate a pass rush.
Garnet and Black Attack: A Blog by and for Gamecocks Fans. http://www.garnetandblackattack.com
by Gamecock Man on Jun 2, 2009 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I take spring "game" results with a grian of salt.
They are basically just another scrimmage. If the offense looked bad throughout spring, I’d worry. For instance, FSU’s offense racked up an 800yard pace in 4 of their 6 scrimmages, and then proceeded to have 6 fumbles in the spring game. To say that the offense struggled in the game is correct, but they were phenomenal throughout the spring.
That’s good to hear about the tackles. This Willie Young kid is probably the next ACC 1st round defensive end (and nobody has produced more this decade than the ACC). He had 2 sacks and drew 3 holding penalties against us last year.
by FSUncensored on Jun 2, 2009 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All very true. Unfortunately, there's not a whole lot else to go on right now.
I can say that Garcia, our running game, and the offensive line looked better throughout our spring and that our defense still had lots of questions after it was all said and done. I don’t know what NC State did throughout spring, only how the game went.
And yeah, Young looks very impressive.
Garnet and Black Attack: A Blog by and for Gamecocks Fans. http://www.garnetandblackattack.com
by Gamecock Man on Jun 2, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NC State Spring Game
Gamecock Man, you are correct about the running game, it was non-existent. But NC St’s passing game looked great, especially back-up QB Mike Glennon. There are far less worries if Wilson gets injured now with Glennon as back-up. The WRs and TEs were getting open, and I don’t think Owen Spencer dropped a pass this time! He looked like he improved his hands a lot; last season he would’ve averaged over 100 yds/game had he not dropped over 50% of his deep route passes. I predict he will have a break-out season this year.
Wilson, however, did not look as good as usual, but you have to remember that QBs aren’t allowed to be tackled. This rule really limited his mobility and tackle-breaking skills. So Wilson was “sacked” like 8 times and had negative rushing yardage because the defense would barely graze him and it was a “sack”. This rule makes Wilson and the pass-blocking look worse than they really are. Everyone in the stands was getting frustrated with the rule, so they started chanting “Let Him Play!”. Also, keep in mind that Wilson only played the first half, because he had to leave to play a baseball game. Unfortunately, it is very hard to judge a running-style QB in a spring game when he only plays one half and is not allowed to run…
by BadinBoarder87 on Jun 2, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the info.
Looking forward to the game.
Garnet and Black Attack: A Blog by and for Gamecocks Fans. http://www.garnetandblackattack.com
by Gamecock Man on Jun 2, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jared Cook is an amazing talent
Only 37 receptions this year, but safeties tended to key on his patterns, often opening up Cock WR’s for one-on-one opportunites.
I think Weslye Saunders is a very good TE, but not even close to the receiving threat that Cook was.
The key will be the running game. If teams are forced to put 7-8 in the box to stop the Gamecock ground game, than I could see the passing game reaping the benefits.
If not, I have a hard time believing SC will be lighting up scoreboards this coming season.
by Zach_Nole on Jun 1, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Freshman Running Back at NC State
There is a kid they recruited from Orlando Boone named James Washington. This guy left school in December to join the Wolfpack.Keep an eye on him as he has been getting some reps. He also has good hands out of the backfield.
by nole34 on Jun 2, 2009 4:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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