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As we told you months ago, Jacobbi McDaniel is not and was not a serious baseball prospect. He said he would need $1.5 Million to sign, and he was drafted about 985 picks too late to get that type of signing bonus.

A FIRST round pick in the 14-18 range just got offered 1.7Million.
FIFTH round picks get offered 170K-300K.

There's some ridiculous internet rumor that McDaniel, a THIRTY-THIRD rounder, not even in the top 1000 picks, got an 800K offer to sign. A 33rd rounder getting 4X the amount of an average 5th rounder?

I'd like to see a reputable news outlet report that offer with info from the Brewers.

I believe that rumor to be false and plan to ask Brewers people and whatever scouts I can get ahold of about that.

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Almighty Warchant’s headline says that he was offered “unusually high money” for being drafted in that position and that he has a big decision to make.

They would NEVER do that just to get headlines, would they? :)

"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't." - General George S. Patton

by NoleCC on Jun 11, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I am going to contact a scout and well, he did not get what I have heard they said he did.

To put this in perspective, I personally know of someone who was drafted between 14 and 18 (not saying who), and he just got a $1.7Million dollar offer.

by Bud Elliott on Jun 11, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't subscribe

so I don’t know the number they’re claiming, but I just think it’s funny that everyone else on the planet not in need of a subscription is saying he’s playing football. Meanwhile, Lee Gordon’s article is subscription-only and seems to be sign up bait.

"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't." - General George S. Patton

by NoleCC on Jun 11, 2009 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

If he did get offered that

He’d be smart to take it and run.

"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't." - General George S. Patton

by NoleCC on Jun 11, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Not buying the 800k number

It’s not unheard of for a late rounder to get top 5 round money. Just don’t see them going that high for a guy that didn’t seem to have any buzz as a prospect. Matt Fairel got drafted in the 35th round last year and got 250k last year.

by LaneFenner on Jun 11, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

But that was after a long

long summer of negotiations

"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't." - General George S. Patton

by NoleCC on Jun 11, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe 2.5

if he holds out long enough haha

"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't." - General George S. Patton

by NoleCC on Jun 11, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING. Here are last years bonus babies, before Posey signed a est. 7.5 mil deal.

From:
http://www.sportsagentblog.com/2008/08/14/fridays-mlb-draft-deadline/

As of writing this post, here are the bonus babies (highest signing bonuses) in the first ten rounds:

1st round (pick 1) – Tim Beckham – $6.15 million (Rays)
Supplemental 1st (pick 1) – Shooter Hunt – $1.08 million (Twins)
2nd round (pick 9) – Destin Hood – $1.1 million (Nationals)
3rd round TIE (pick 5) – Roger Kieschnick – $525k (Giants) and (pick 10) – Danny Espinosa (Nationals)
Supplemental 3rd (pick 1) – Ross Seaton – $700k (Astros)
4th round TIE (pick 1) – Ty Morrison – $500k (Rays) and (pick 19) – Matt Cerda (Cubs)
5th round (pick 9) – Adrian Nieto – $376k (Nationals)
6th round (pick 28) – Brett Marshall – $800k (Yankees)
7th round (pick 29) – Tim Fedroff – $725k (Indians)
8th round (pick 4) – Bobby Bundy – $600k (Orioles)
9th round (pick 15) – Steven Caseres – $250k (Dodgers)
10th round (pick 12) – Rashun Dixon – $600k (Athletics)

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by FrankDNole on Jun 11, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey everyone

FSUncensored stopped by my Brewers blog, Brew Crew Ball, earlier today to ask about McDaniel and the offer. I just talked to him, and the Brewers did indeed offer him $800k, it seems.

It was a great selection of awesome.

by battlekow on Jun 11, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Just to clarify

By “talked to him”, I mean I talked to McDaniel.

It was a great selection of awesome.

by battlekow on Jun 11, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay thanks.

Now, do you BELIEVE the Brewers offered their 33rd round pick, a guy not in the Baseball America Database, an opening offer of 800K?

by Bud Elliott on Jun 11, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, yeah

I mean, I don’t think he’s lying. I’m not a scout and I’ve obviously never seen him play, but they must like something about him. I’d imagine he can hit the ball a fair country mile.

It was a great selection of awesome.

by battlekow on Jun 11, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah he can rake.

I guess there’s no way the Brewers would comment on this, even anonymously.

by Bud Elliott on Jun 11, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Judging by past draft mysteries, we won't get much clarification on this until the deadline (8/17)

He said there was a 50/50 chance he’d sign for the $800k.

It was a great selection of awesome.

by battlekow on Jun 11, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is anybody else just LTAO about this whole "situation?"

Of course, if this was Demonte McAllister, I’d really be chitting my pants right now.

Now we are going to have prospects playing baseball just so they can get drafted and have a whole fanbase in an uproar (joke).

by FSUSOM on Jun 11, 2009 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

This is complete bs.

No way a 33rd round pick gets 800k.

by fsunole23 on Jun 11, 2009 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Of course scouts were aware of him . If they weren’t he wouldn’t have been drafted. Kids get money above slot all the time.

My question is, if he takes the money, what does this do to your recruiting class along with the typical non-qualifier types?

by gahnki on Jun 11, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you read the Andrew Carter blog? Nobody knows who he is

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jun 11, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's not taking the money and I don't believe it's an actual offer of 800K

This isn’t above slot, this is like, insanely above slot. This is Strausberg level ridiculousness.

by Bud Elliott on Jun 11, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's really not that unusual to draft "unsignable" high school kids late and throw some money at them

It’s just the specifics of this particular player’s “unsignability” that make it so interesting.

It was a great selection of awesome.

by battlekow on Jun 12, 2009 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

But the BA database isn’t the scouts database. Obviously, the Brewers scouts knew who he was or they couldn’t have possibly drafted him.

by gahnki on Jun 11, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right

but there is some comment that “they think I am a 2nd round talent and other teams did too and would have taken me there if I didn’t play football” and that doesn’t jive with numerous scouts not having heard of him, and him not being a major prospect.

by Bud Elliott on Jun 11, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jamaal Berry arrested Felony weed charge 20g+

Unsure any details or if it will stick and no idea if he can beat it. Not sure you heard. Was he expected to qualify academically?

by Bud Elliott on Jun 11, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could be if the situation turns out to be worse than what I’ve heard. If it somehow does turn out to be a convicted felony, then he is obviously gone. So that leaves Boom Herron and Brandon Saine as the only two real backs on the roster. I like both of them a lot, but neither are stars. Herron is quick and tough, but lacks deep speed. He is actually a great 1c back. Saine has the deep speed (Ran 10.3 100 meter in high school) but is pretty stiff. He runs tough too, though.

Then you have Carlos Hyde who is being brought in as the short yardage specialist, and possibly more if he holds his current weight. And Jordan Hall who is being brought in as a hybrid slot/back. JB was being told that he would be able to contribute as a freshman if he picked up the blocking scheme. I don’t know if he will/could win the job, but he would not have redshirted.

I’d say that this affects the current recruiting class more than anything. They were looking at taking one true back and an athlete who could play multiple positions including back. If he’s out, then it looks like two true backs are necessary. They already have one great back lined up. His name’s Roderick Smith. Video’s excellent, but he’s been even more impressive at 7 on 7’s.

by gahnki on Jun 12, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve been on this since 11 in the morning. Actually, Genron has been the guy providing the info to me and some other OSU guys on this. He’s close to JB and his mother. No doubt he messed up; he surely bought the stuff with his friends, but the situation seems to have been blown out of proportion by the Miami-Dade newspaper. And, dang, how the heck is 28 grams of weed a felony in Florida? It’s 170 grams in Ohio. I don’t smoke, but apparently a large portion of the OSU fanbase does.

Anyway, everyone expects him to be charged with a misdemeanor or dropped entirely. He was in a car with a bunch of guys and nobody claimed it, hence everyone being charged for it. Lucky for him, he didn’t get a felony. One convicted felony and you are gone under Tressel, no questions asked.

by gahnki on Jun 12, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I almost forgot..

Yes, he has already qualified.

by gahnki on Jun 12, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is it possible?

All the confusion may be about a NC high school kid, Demetrius McKelvie, they took in the 25th round. He was asking for an 800K bonus before the draft.

The names are pretty similar, and the number is exact.

by TBfisherman on Jun 11, 2009 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Depends

How good is Lee Gordon at calling from an anonymous number, disguising his voice, and pretending to be a Brewers executive?

“Yes, Sir. That’s a great offer, sir. But I wanna play alongside ‘Ryan Braun’, not Bryan Braun.”

by The K-Man on Jun 12, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Considering the last couple times they went before the NCAA, they got off with a slap on the wrist

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by Jonathan Loesche on Jun 12, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is very possible for a player to be picked late but be highly thought of. The Brewers could legitamately believe he will be that good of a player if he’s given the specialized instruction he can receive in the minors and blossom very quickly. Also you have the fact that if he doesn’t go pro in baseball now the Brewers might not get another shot at him (i.e. he might drop baseball all together).

It is an unusual amount of money for his slot but this sort of thing (money above slot) does happen a good bit. Also, the Brewers are trying to single handedly destroy FSU sports. They tried to draft Sampson, drafted D’Vo, Gennett, and McDaniel, and have drafted players like Charlie Ward before he enrolled in FSU.

by evenflow58 on Jun 12, 2009 7:40 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Also, telling scouts before the draft you are not interested in playing is a good way to scare away some teams and have your stock drop with others. It’s also a good way to get a higher signing bonus if a team really likes you.

by evenflow58 on Jun 12, 2009 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

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