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Monday Morning Tomahawks 06.17.09

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Andrew Carter- Orlando Sentinal- Wrapping up the Jacobbi McDaniel Saga
McDaniel honestly believed he had an $800,000 offer. The Brewers' representative said numbers were only thrown out to gauge his interest and were not representative of an offer. "You’ve got to ask all these kids what’s it going to take for you to sign," Robinson said. "And if they tell you 1.5 [million], you say, well, what about $200,000. You’re trying to gauge their signability before you take him."  I want to apologize to Jacobbi for throwing out the possibility that he was lying.  Everyone out there was confused about some parts of this situation, including Tomahawk Nation.  I think Carter showed the most professionalism throughout, as he was committed to checking with multiple sources.  For our part, I still think those advising McDaniel should have known better than to let him tell people he had an 800K offer as a 33rd round pick as that would have been completely outrageous as an opening offer at that selection.  Mistakes were made all around and here's us owning up to ours.

Jeff Cameron Show- Ira Schoeffel  The announcement of TK Wetherell's retirement, who may replace him when the time does come, the Jaccobi McDaniel saga comes to an end - and the $800k figure WAS correct [though it was not an offer, see Andrew Carter's final article] - plus what positives the FSU defense may have this coming season, ticket sales declining, and much more.

Also on the Jeff Cameron show, we learned that fullback Seddrick Holloway is off the team after getting really fat again and having other issues.  I hinted at this a while back during our RB preview piece.  That's not a big deal, but it becomes a bigger issue when during the same interview we learn that Marcus Sims' position with the team is also in serious jeopardy.  Sims, who has not been participating in offseason workouts, is apparently miffed that he's being used as a fullback and not a running back.  Memo to Marcus:  man up.  If you want to be part of this team, get back to the offseason program.  If you don't, then officially quit and clear up a scholarship.  Do not come back two weeks before the season in questionable shape hoping to play.  I have to say that this news surprised me.  Still, it makes some sense that the coaches took Matt Dunham back after the 24yo FB/ TE missed the 2008 season.  

Chantrant:  Wanted:  FSU president to boost FSU's academic rankings.  And hopefully not act like a rabid cowboy.

FSU's season ticket sales are down 10-12% this year.  That's what a decade of mismanagement will get you.  Scalpem takes the administration to task.  Randy Spetman Is Begging You To Buy FSU Football Tickets · ScalpEm.com  A really thought out post on the ticket situation. Personally, I think it was handled poorly, but that people who got their seats upgraded should probably accept their gift. Opponent fans do not deserve to sit close.  for more, see FSU seating chart and ticket information.  BUY YOUR SEASON TICKETS.  THEY ARE ONLY $199 for 6 games!  Sell the ones you can't get to.

Orlando Sentinel - NCAA response to be released by Florida State  The NCAA has agreed to allow Florida State to release to the public the NCAA Committee on Infractions’ response to FSU’s appeal, according to a letter the NCAA sent today.  This is going to drag on well into football season.

Seminoles.com Gator's preview  Has Video. Good read.

Counting down the ACC's top 30 players: No. 18 Dekoda Watson  He's one of Florida State's top defenders, and on a team that lost six starters on defense, he'll be needed even more this fall. Watson is fast, strong, explosive, has great NFL potential and has the ability to make game-changing plays. He averaged a career-high 4.6 tackles per game, but increased that to seven tackles per game over the final four regular season games. He also had eight tackles for loss.

Former Rickards standout JaJuan Harley showing his strength at FSU Tallahassee Democrat  Recent Rickards High graduate JaJuan Harley had done a good job in that regard, according to FSU strength and conditioning director Todd Stroud. And now he has been turning heads in FSU's summer workout program. "Extremely strong for a freshman and extremely strong for a safety," Stroud said. "Tough. Agile. Good size. Weighs 205. He is as far along as any skill guy when they first come in here. He has the attributes."  Applying the 3% reduction rule, he's probably at 199lbs not 205.  Still, this is good news.

WR Primer: Get to know your Corps. - TarponsandNoles  Tarpons with an excellent fapost that should help you get acquainted with this year's wide receivers.

IS THE TIGHT END AT FSU CONSIDERED AN ELIGIBLE RECEIVER? - Frank D  Frank D takes a look at FSU's use of the tight end over several decades and wonders if the 'Noles will use the tight end more in the passing game under Jimbo. Excellent use of the fanpost feature.

Finally, I am disappointed in the lack of comments for  Back to Basics: A Detailed Look at Defensive Line Play - Tomahawk Nation (TrueCubbie)  If you can't control the line of scrimmage your chances of winning a football game significantly decrease. A dominating defensive line, or even lineman, will impact the outcome of a game. If a quarterback has no time to throw the ball, if the running back can't turn the corner, if the offensive line can't control the line of scrimmage, it's over. In this article, we will take a look at some of the basics about defensive line play followed by a discussion about effective line play.   This is an excellent article and there is also some quality discussion in the comment section that follows the article.  TrueCubbie played defensive line in college and everyone should avail themselves of his knowledge.

General Football

More on Big Ten schedules and the urgency of USC at Ohio State- Dr. Saturday  Doc Saturday discusses something we've covered at length.

Smart Football: Smart Notes - June 15, 2009  Good discussion on Mark Richt's shallow cross stuff.  Make sure to check that out and the links inside the story as well.

General News

Smart Football: Musings on sports blogging and the interplay between new and old media  An excellent article you should read.

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I didn't realize that Seddrick Holloway was off the team...

just that he wasn’t working out in the offseason program. I guess its a win-win: Wendy’s sells more baconators and FSU drops some dead weight.

Marcus Sims has been fickle since the day he signed with FSU… refused to play defense, almost quit after he got injured, has been inconsistent with offseason programs… whatever- he’s no Ernie.

by coonhound on Jun 17, 2009 8:32 AM EDT reply actions  

if Holloway and Sims are off ...

(realizing the jury is out on Sims) then that leaves maybe Dunham at FB. That really thins the backs. We may have the runners, but the FB needs some size to pass block and at times help open holes for the guy with the ball.

At times FSU could do a split back situation with Jones and Thomas or Thomas and Pressley, but against some defenses FSU could use a big back to block in the backfield. Lot to put on Dunham without others.

I’d watch FSU to shift someone from defense to offense to help out – one of the TEs could also switch, but I don’t think that will happen. A LB or maybe TE stuck down the roster.

by Wild@Heart Nole on Jun 17, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've heard the Gresham thing but I don't see that working.

He is not a big guy from the recent pictures I’ve seen.

Know what we really need? Jabarris Little to step up and not be a slacker.

by Bud Elliott on Jun 17, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

even a guy around 225 to 230 would help

Gresham lists at 229 on one roster.

Another option may be to take an OL stuck down the roster who has some quickness – may not be much of a run threat but would provide some blocking and could be a tremendous lead blocker on runs.

by Wild@Heart Nole on Jun 17, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

If we're talking H-back, then I can see the call for stork.

But at fullback- we require them to be much quicker.

I’m in favor of cutting Gresham. He was an iffy prospect before he blew his knee. I’d be absolutely shocked to see Jimbo keep him for his full eligibility.

by Bud Elliott on Jun 17, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps in recruiting

This would make someone like Smiley a priority for lack of bigger backs to either block or short yardage situations.

by salukinole on Jun 17, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bicgger backs should be a priority, period

Don’t get me started on Marcus Sims, I promise it won’t end well. And no it is not just about the fumble heard round the South.

by SWFLNole. on Jun 18, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you think his brother being here caused some of his issues?

I have heard that Marcus has a bit of a sense of entitlement, that FSU should be thankful that he is there. Does this come from his brother being such a success here and the close family ties? I have to admit, I hoped Marcus would follow his brother’s footsteps and become a LB. There is just something missing about him as a RB. I don’t know the guy nor anyone close to him is why I ask, hate to throw guy under bus without knowing the situation.

by diablonole on Jun 18, 2009 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

good news bad news

Good news JaJuan Harley. we need more people like him on the team. I hope he has a good attitude to go with his good work ethics. Bad news, One fullback down one too go. I think its good really I dont like Sims personally

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by Desman on Jun 17, 2009 9:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Fantasy Land

I love the fact that Sims thinks he can tell the coaches where he wants to play and ala-kazam! It happens.

I think Sims will have a future job in motivational speaking (because it sure won’t be in the NFL at RB). It looks like he thinks if he believes in something enough then in his mind it will happen. Apparently he thinks that he deserves to be our running back, even though he’s blown pretty much every opportunity we’ve given him when the game is on the line. I mean, some people would be humbled and just do everything they could to help the team, but not this guy… so sir. It’s numero uno for him and FSU can go screw themselves if they disagree.

Maybe someone should explain to him how much elegibility he’s used, what a bad idea transferring would be at this point, how pathetic his draft status would be if he entered right now… how much the coaches have tried to make a spot on the team for him just out of appreciation for what his brother did for the school…. etc, and so forth.

Or maybe we should just wave good-bye and count our lucky stars.

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by Nattylite on Jun 17, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

To Quote Matt Hinton:
If they’re going to reclaim any part of that, it’s going to be the Jimbo Fisher way, which is clearly more oriented toward running the ball and spreading it around to a lot of different players, two areas where FSU was significantly improved last year. In contrast to the youth at receiver, the offensive line returns intact after improving the team’s overall yards per carry by a full yard from 2007 to ‘08; with some help from Christian Ponder’s scrambling, the running game was viable on a weekly basis for the first time in years. I’m sure I’ll go into more depth on this at some point in the next six months, but for now I’ll leave it at this: If the progression into a more rugged, “do your job” kind of offense under Fisher and offensive line coach Rick Trickett continues at that pace, anyone resembling the flashy blazers of yore will be much more of a luxury than they ever were under Mark Richt and Jeff Bowden.

And this I believe. Everyone wants great athletes, but some coaches totally need them just to be good.

Speaking of Richt, it’s totally another sign of how the coaching staff had begun to erode when SmartFootball notes

[Richt’s] shallow, in all its forms, is a great route. Indeed, in some ways it was the foundation for the early spread offense; as teams began to employ four receivers on every play and opened up the formation, they often found it useful to have at least one receiver on a deep route (to threaten the coverage as well as to clear it out) and one shallow cross (to work well against man and as a “hot” route for the quarterback against the blitz) on every play. But with the rise of robber coverage with a “floater” over the middle, better covering interior defenders like nickel backs and linebackers, less all-out man blitzing and more zone-blitzing, and overall better pattern recognition, the shallow has seen its effectiveness wane a bit. It is still a go-to play, but it has a different, more limited role. Art from TFA actually asked Richt about all this:

by Bud Elliott on Jun 17, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

The usual kudos for the Tommys

Sims – I’m not so sure we use the FB all that much. On the one hand, Sims may have a complaint. On the other hand, when we did use the FB, it was Sims. He also rec’d an abnormal amount of pass plays out of the backfield for a FB.

Harley – Does anyone actually think he will get playing time this year? Or is this the usual “this freshman star is really looking good in summer workouts” article?

Defensive line article – This is a great article. However, it is a bit long, and I know that I haven’t had the time to read it all. I promise that I will though… I see it as essential reading for this coming season. I’m guessing a lot of other posters haven’t had the time either.

Season tix – Where are the $199 seats? That sounds like a good deal, but I don’t want to be sitting corner-endzone-nosebleed with opposing fans.

by FSUjab on Jun 17, 2009 9:35 AM EDT reply actions  

They aren't great, but


The teal section

there are some really nice seats available for the 280ish range. I haven’t bought mine yet (gasp!), but I plan to buy season tickets and sell the games I can’t make (USF and Jax State)

by Bud Elliott on Jun 17, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm really excited for the changes they made to the ticket situation

I just can’t believe they hadn’t done it sooner. Splitting the students and allowing the visitors to be closer than your own fans….ridiculous!

by basbalstr101 on Jun 17, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm trying to figure out what he means by splitting the students...

Was this something that happened during the 2007 season and before? Looks like nothing is changed for the student section.

Just wants to beat the Gators

by DA-2 on Jun 17, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the time I have been here (2006-present)

There has been the main student section at the north end zone, sections 1-8? I believe. They also had a student section above and beside the band in the south endzone. My freshman year, my tickets were usually in the south end zone with the band.

For the coming year, they have expanded the north end zone student section to fit all of the students.

by basbalstr101 on Jun 17, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow. I did not know that.

I knew the band was there, and that the visitors were parked next to them. I didn’t know there were our students their too. I guess I was blessed to always be in the North end zone. We should get a TN student group section when online ticket lottery comes back.

Just wants to beat the Gators

by DA-2 on Jun 17, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wonder how big a group that would be?

I usually get my tickets with the BCM (Baptist Collegiate Ministry) and we have a large group so we are pretty much guaranteed tickets to the big games (UM, UF). We normally get great seats, too. Last year we had the first four rows in the north end zone for the BC game. How big does a group need to be to get good tickets on a regular basis?

by basbalstr101 on Jun 17, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're with the BCM?

I know a ton of people in the BCM (all freshman). I can’t guarantee that it would be a big group. I can bring about 10 people, but I don’t know how we’d be able to compete with the BCM.

Just wants to beat the Gators

by DA-2 on Jun 17, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had it last year.

Unless they changed it for this year.

Just wants to beat the Gators

by DA-2 on Jun 17, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

For the upcoming year?

We have definitely done it the past three years.

by basbalstr101 on Jun 17, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know that block seating was the way to get tickets before

and that last year they allowed you to get individual tickets. On the online student ticket area, you can select a block to sit with.

by basbalstr101 on Jun 17, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

It will not be the same...

With the consolidation of the entire student allotment into the North Endzone, the entire student section will be General Admission, first-come first-served seating. Get there early and get the best seats!
 No more block seating.

by nole65 on Jun 17, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah. that

is directly from the link he posted. I think it is a good idea. Should get everyone to the game earlier.

by nole65 on Jun 17, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have been told that all you will have to do is show your student ID at the gate. Much better than the system last year which was terrible for pretty much everyone.

by KHow on Jun 17, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

With the old block system somebody could pick up a couple hundred tickets instead of everybody having to print them off for $2 each or wait in a huge line for yours. Hopefully this will get a lot more students in the stands which had many empty seats last year

by KHow on Jun 17, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know when you went

but I never once waited in line for my tickets.

Just wants to beat the Gators

by DA-2 on Jun 17, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

With the first come first served idea

does that mean your seats are not guaranteed to be with friends? I can’t see them going to a system like that. The student registration windows are open from Tues-Fri the week prior to the games, so you register for your ticket prior to the game.

by basbalstr101 on Jun 17, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

they are definitely going to this system as you can read

the above link. If you want to sit with friends you need to go together. Earlier you get there, the better your seats are.

by nole65 on Jun 17, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Should be some excellent brawls before the Miami game.

“I’m saving this row for my friends.” Oh you are, huh? I’m not saying I oppose the new system. (I don’t.) I’m just saying it’s going to get one heck of an initiation.

by TRMNole on Jun 17, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

How small will reply's go?

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by NaGaNole on Jun 17, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmmm...

"We're not maxed out, ... The best is still ahead of us."

Bobby Bowden

by NaGaNole on Jun 17, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m glad the students are all together now. It was terrible before. Several times I was seated at the top of the student section in the south endzone, right next to the visitors during UF and Miami games. Needless to say it would get nasty there with basically two opposing student sections right next to each other.

by Jaguar on Jun 17, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

TCC students get the FSU student pricing on season tix, so if you know someone

not taking advantage, maybe they can get them for you…Limit 2 tix, $179 each. Believe they’re in 15 & 16 (Priority III). There’s really not a terrible seat in Doak.

by jasonole59 on Jun 17, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm looking but this was in my email (my wife is a student)

As a valued Florida State Football season ticket holder from last year we would like to extend an NEW offer for the 2009 football season just for you. If you CLICK HERE for the TCC Ticket Promotion and enter the promotion code TCC you will be able to lock in last year’s amazing ticket price for this season! For only $179* you will get to experience Florida State football as part of the 83,000 Strong! This promotion will sell fast so make sure to get your order in early for the best seats available in section 15!

The last line says section 15 which is normally Priority III (not sure if all priority III is available)…And this is the Sun in your face side, so I’ll bring some glasses and sunscreen.

by jasonole59 on Jun 17, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I emailed the ticket office to see if moving to 27 or 38 is a possibility.

I doubt it will be because these seats aren’t renewable, and I’m thinking about jumping on some regular season tix like TRM suggested.

They should also open up single game tickets NOW to everyone. I mean, why impose all the restrictions and risk having a Labor Day game that is not a sellout?

by jasonole59 on Jun 17, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Being partially colorblind

I’m assuming by “teal” you mean the strange blue/green color otherwise known as sections 321 & 322. Those seats flat out suck – I’ve actually sat there before.

by FSUjab on Jun 17, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes, they do.

But sections 27, 28, 38, and 39 are available for pretty cheap and are shaded.

by Bud Elliott on Jun 17, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

seating...

I no longer live in Tally so its rare that I make it to home games. But when I do, ANY seat in the DOAK is a good seat!!! :)

by CSI Nole on Jun 17, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Family Zone” in the middle of the visitor fans. Should be fun for the Miami game.

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by geoffissiffoeg on Jun 17, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

This could just be my opinion...

…but the Priority 3 corner seats on the West side of the stadium are great seats in Doak Campbell. Please don’t let this stop anyone from jumping in now. (And this is the perfect time to jump in.) In fact, believe it or not, I’ve been a season ticket holder for 18 years (my parents began taking me to games as a sophomore in high school in ‘91), and I’ve CHOSEN to keep my seats in the corner (about 60 rows up in fact) because I’ve gotten to know the people around me (some of us have been there the entire time), and I don’t want to risk moving to better seats and have lousy people around me. (Some of you are shaking your head while some of you know exactly what I mean.) My point is, for me to keep making this decision every year, with all the priority points I have, the seating must be just fine.

As I hinted, this is the year to get in. If you’re young and thinking you’re someone who might want to have season tickets as an adult for your family on a yearly basis, this is your chance to get a good seat while folks are bailing. Later in life, when you have some money to donate to the boosters, you’ll have a head start in priority points. Definitely consider it.

by TRMNole on Jun 17, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Great, earnest points in this threads regarding season tickets.

I purchased season tickets from a Booster I met on the WC Ticket Board last year. Face value for some pretty great seats and no contribution on my behalf. I had the option to do it again this year, but realized A) I’ll eventually want to control my own destiny, especially now that I can afford to be a Booster and B) There’s no better time to get in than this year.
It really sucks to not know where your season tickets will be, but my cognitive dissonance is low given the slumping ticket sales reports. Pay now, pay later. I’ll pay now.
You’re allowed to give a detailed request for where your desired seat location will be, and the Booster office limits the characters on the email. My cousin and I did about 8 drafts and kept truncating words and abbreviating to make it all fit. The end product was a mini-legal document.

I’m also in favor of a Ticket board being set-up for TN. I won’t be able to make many of the games and I’d rather sell mine for face or lower to steady TN readers than Craiglist, StubHub, or EBay.

by The K-Man on Jun 18, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This may have something with our poor ranking.

US World and News Report college rankings have always been a joke. Here’s a big reason why:

UF President Says UCF is Adequate

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by O-Town Nole on Jun 17, 2009 10:12 AM EDT reply actions  

No reason at all for TN to apologize for its (non-)part in the McDaniel debacle.

Of course it shows class where another site has none. But since we’re dealing with the record, let it show that all TN did was speculate on information (or the lack thereof) provided by a paysite running a story it’s now admitting was based on a freaking text message. TN simply asked, “How could this be?” Why didn’t the paysite ask this when they talked to Jacobbi? I stated in a previous thread that they’ll protect an 80-year-old man at any cost, but they’ll hang an 18-year-old kid out to dry in a heartbeat. Or maybe they’re just too stupid to understand a simple process called negotiation. I know this: TN isn’t stupid. Uncensored is all class, and the paysite was rotten from the beginning.

by TRMNole on Jun 17, 2009 10:43 AM EDT reply actions  

New Guy checking in

1. Hello all. I’ve been reading TN for a few months now, but I just got around to signing up for an account. Having previously been a member of certain other pay sites, I have to say that the quality and intelligence of discussion, with its decidedly analytical flavor, is refreshing and impressive.

2. FSUncensored- I wanted to give you props on your Section 38 shoutout. That is where my season tickets were last year (and hopefully will be again). For any of you who like to stand without being asked to sit down, like the shade, and like the noise of the student section, it is a great spot. While my small group could get better seats, we like it where we are.

by fsu44 on Jun 17, 2009 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Alright, a new guy!

I haven’t bought my season tickets yet, and I probably should. They need to do a better job of guaranteeing where your seats will be. I stand without being asked to sit down, like the shade, and like the noise of the student section, and that’s why I like section 38. I scalped tickets off someone last year and that’s where I sat.

by Bud Elliott on Jun 17, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

To follow, section 27 is far from ideal.

It’s a chore to get energy more than a few feet above sea level (“Siddown!”), and I’ll miss having the students in the south endzone. Also, with season ticket sales declining the last few years gradually over the last decade, this is where you see open seats pop up on the fringe that get filled by often more casual fans picking up gameday tickets or, worse, visiting fans, who are generally just fine as long as they’re not from Miami or Florida. Like I say though, far from ideal. If I show up to the Miami game and half the people I’m holding these seats to be around have been replaced by empty seats and/or screaming Miami fans, obviously I’ll have to start thinking about moving my seats, which will be a real shame. There’s no reason this had to happen. I don’t think it’s even necessary to say a 12% decline in season ticket sales has nothing to do with the economy as no one’s even trying to sell you that. I’ll say it again: Ths is the year to get in.

by TRMNole on Jun 17, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seat Location

This is the primary reason I do not buy season tickets. Having no idea where you are going to sit is terrible. I feel the same way about buying single game tickets from the university. I bought tickets to the Clemson game last year and wound up in the 70th row! I would much rather pay a little more and use Stubhub or eBay and know exactly where I am going to sit BEFORE I buy. Craigslist is also a good option because it helps fill a seat that would otherwise be empty if the ticketholder were unable to go.

by Nole Holds Barred on Jun 17, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

TN ticket exchange

I would be interested. I would be able to meet with anyone on the way from Pensacola to Tally

by Nole Holds Barred on Jun 17, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

TN-icket Exchange

I’d be interested. If I can make it to a game in Tally this year, I would be more likely to get it from a TN member rather than stub hub / ebay / etc.

by PBD on Jun 21, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't believe we're ranked last in academic standing in the ACC.

That’s ridiculous! I didn’t know it was that bad! TK is ruining the value of my diploma. Good points brought up by Chantrant.

Just wants to beat the Gators

by DA-2 on Jun 17, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Don’t get me started on the rankings. It’s very difficult if not impossible to quantify an education system. Also like O-Town Nole posted a link, some rank comes purely from pereception, which is hard to break.

They are important, but only because many people look at the ranks and choose their school based on the rank. So, sadly FSU does need to work on improving.

Winning a basketball or football championships would indirectly help FSU improve. Winning championships is free advertising. Many high school students only go to schools they hear about. More word of mouth means more people apply, which allows the school can be more selective. Having a lower acceptance rate and higher average GPA, SAT, and SAT scores raises the perception. Notice though that it just raises perception and doesn’t really imply anything about the quality of the education.

by Jaguar on Jun 17, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

What to do, what to do

Jags half pack or FSU season tickets

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by Jonathan Loesche on Jun 17, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

What's wrong with Weaver?

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by Jonathan Loesche on Jun 17, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd take him over alot of other owners. He's never been cheap about winning.

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by Jonathan Loesche on Jun 17, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

but he constantly drops hints that he would move to LA

Additionally, buying FSU seats not will get you priority for better ones when we are again elite

by Bud Elliott on Jun 17, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

You do realize he turned down a reportedly $900 million offer for the team last year because the buyer refused to agree that the team would stay in Jacksonville

Though also a good point on FSU. Though I still have my student ID and if that gets me in for free I’ll use that

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by Jonathan Loesche on Jun 17, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure you still have to register for the tickets in advance of the game

but you can’t select block seating, so it’s first come first served at the gate. Seminoles.com says students still have to register for their tickets using a PIN number the school emails you.

by basbalstr101 on Jun 17, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

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