Jacksonville First Coast Defensive Lineman Tavaris Barnes commits to the Florida State Seminoles, becoming FSU's 4th 2010 commitment
by FSUncensored on Jun 22, 2009 10:45 AM EDT
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As first reported by NoleInsider.com (Florida State's ESPN Affiliate and current home of BushidoNole), Tavaris Barnes committed to Florida State.
via CollegeFootballNews.com
Who? Barnes stands 6' 4.5" and weighs in at 250-260 lbs (depending on who you ask). He ran a 4.70 40 yard dash at the Jacksonville Camp in January. Barnes also registered a 4.31 Shuttle run and a 7.53 three cone drill (impressive numbers for a man his size). He really wowed the scouts with his athleticism at the camp with a 32" vertical leap. Those scores were the best of the defensive linemen group, which included elite prospects Tavadis Glenn and Louis Nix.
Barnes also looked unstoppable during the one-on-one drills, using a variety of moves to blow past offensive linemen. He displayed advanced use of his hands, good footwork and strength. More good news about Barnes: He has a frame to get bigger than he already is, which should give him some versatility at the college level. Source:
ESPN
Despite his great combine work, Barnes is considered a very raw prospect and at this point is much more an athlete than football player. He will benefit from the excellent defensive line coaching provided by FSU Defensive Tackle's coach O'Dell Haggins. Haggins' specialty is taking athletic defensive tackles and turning them into NFL Millionaires.
Our resident football coach Oline01075 had this to say after watching Barnes "He plays high as S***, and gets no extension with his arms. Squeezes well when play is away or against a down block. Jesus, he has an elite 1st step. Wow. When he plays low he really flashes."
Barnes comes from Jacksonville First Coast High School, where current 'Noles Jermaine Thomas, Avis Commack, and Nigel Carr also played for Buccaneer's coach Marty Carr. Florida State WIde Receiver's coach Lawrence Dawsey has a great connection with the school. First Coast should continue to produce quality prospects for some time and FSU is in good position with the Bucs. It's also important to note that none of the three current First Coast 'Noles had any discipline problems. No doubt his friends played a role in his choice.
Barnes was heavily pursued by North Carolina (a school that knows defensive linemen under Butch Davis and Jon Blake) as well as Florida. He actually tried to commit to UF in early May, but they refused his commitment because they wanted to see him play more on the field. Barnes subsequently dropped the Gators.
Continue reading for more on Tavaris!
Barnes is unrated by ESPN.COM and Rivals.com. That should change soon, however, as both services revise their rankings. Barnes will probably be a high 3* or low 4* prospect based off his film.
Intelligence: Banres sports a 3.3 GPA and could probably complete his SAT with a crayon and still qualify.
Versatility: Barnes will likely be able to play multiple positions for the 'Noles, bouncing between defensive tackle and end.
You can see Barnes at FSU's Seminole Showtime camp, July 18th in Tallahassee! Be there to see the former, current, and future 'Nole greats!
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Great news!
Should we be concerned about the prior attempt to commit to UF?
by FSUjab on Jun 22, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He dropped them completely and wasn't very happy with them.
I think he’s a ’Nole now.
by FSUncensored on Jun 22, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"He actually tried to commit to UF in early May, but they refused his commitment because they wanted to see him play more on the field."
So did they offer, and then change their mind?
According to the ESPN “on the trail” feature, the Gators offered him in April?
by jasonole59 on Jun 22, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My understanding is that they were sort of shady with the offer
In that they were like “you have an offer but can’t commit to it.” They wanted to see him at some more camps or play more this year.
by FSUncensored on Jun 22, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regardless, He seems like another good kid that you want on your team.
Not to mention, It’s always nice to get a kid that UF has some interest in, since their interest seemed to pick back up in him.
by jasonole59 on Jun 22, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, not a qualifing risk.
I love hearing that…
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.
Elayne Boosler
by NaGaNole on Jun 22, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congratulations Tavaris, wise choice. Maybe this will get the commitment ball rolling and just in time for Showtime.
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em
by FrankDNole on Jun 22, 2009 11:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Woohoo, let's get this ball rolling.
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.
Elayne Boosler
by NaGaNole on Jun 22, 2009 11:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
With just 4 commits, I decided to look at some other schools in the southeast....
No need to panic:
Ole Miss only has 1 commit , so we’re not last :)
Now, Ole Miss doesn’t have the “elite” history we have, but they are projected to be a top 10 team pre-season, so who knows what is going on. Maybe because Nutt signed like 50 kids last year, recruits are hesitant.
by jasonole59 on Jun 22, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are the other schools taking guys we really need/ want and expected to get
I’d say no to this point.
by FSUncensored on Jun 22, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice pick up
I am assuming that he may not be an early contributor, as far as starting and significant PT, since he is described as being pretty raw and its been stated on here before that D-Line is a tough position for young guys to come in and contribute right away, but it seems that he could be a major player with time in the system.
Where on the D line does TB figure to play at FSU? Any ideas to what and ideal playing weight for him might be?
"No, like I said, Woo peed on my rug" - The Dude
by Surfanole on Jun 22, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he maxes ou at 280-285ish and plays strongside end.
You can’t teach his athleticism. We can teach a kid to play low on a more consistent basis.
by FSUncensored on Jun 22, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also can't teach size...
which he seems to have.
by FSUjab on Jun 22, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, you can't teach height and frame
you can add size if someone has the height and body framework to support the size without being fat.
At 6-5, if legit height, depending on frame he could bulk to 280 to 300 as a college senior
by Wild@Heart Nole on Jun 22, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we were a traditional run-stopping defense
I’d agree. But Hagans likes to use guys that size at DT (e.g., Justin Mincey). I’d like to see us use a bigger/stronger SDE, but I haven’t seen us throw out a big SDE in a long time: McNeil (6’2",250ish), Alex Boston (6’3", 264), Darrel Burston (6’2", 241)…
by ricobert1 on Jun 22, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Jimbo is going to have something to say about it.
He’s told people we’re getting bigger all over. He comes from the Parcells/ Saban school.
But totally agree about what we have done.
by FSUncensored on Jun 22, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This would be a positive change
Who do you think has “insisted” on the lighter/faster SDE: Allen? Hagans? Andrews?
by ricobert1 on Jun 22, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it Hagans
or Andrews? Andrews has been the DC as long as Odell has been at FSU as a coach (and as a player as well I think), and Andrews schemes might have dictated some of the size on the line.
Once Fisher is totally in charge, and has his DC in place, that could change. And Fisher is pretty much in charge of recruiting already – he is likely looking to see the defense is stocked as he anticipates his DC is going to want, now.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Jun 22, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DL class
DE: Barnes
DE Corey Miller
DE: David Perry
DT: Willis
DT: Cummings
DT: McCloud
by FSUSOM on Jun 22, 2009 11:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we take
another DT instead of Perry. White is apparently a JR.
by FSUncensored on Jun 22, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lemonier?
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.
Elayne Boosler
by NaGaNole on Jun 22, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We have to win big (Orange Bowl victory) and Miami has to go sub 500.
Don’t get your hopes up.
another DT instead of Perry. White is apparently a JR.
No one seems to know. Good news if true.
If we take another DT, I want that Jacobs kid from Louisiana.
by FSUSOM on Jun 22, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's nice to beat out UNC for a lineman for a change
Jacksonville kids have been successful at FSU and its nice to keep that line open and healthy.
by coonhound on Jun 22, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Welcome Tuberculosis!
As in disease for the other team! I’m glad to see this committment.
Just wants to beat the Gators
by DA-2 on Jun 22, 2009 12:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it safe to say
We’re willing to take the projects like Tavaris Barnes and David Perry, and UF has the pick of the litter so it’s willing to gamble and pass on guys that were heavy UF leans?
Just wants to beat the Gators
by DA-2 on Jun 22, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They do pretty much have the pick.
by FSUncensored on Jun 22, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
We’re neck and neck with UF in recruiting. They have a slight edge, yes, but they would kill to have future Noles like LJ, Willis, Green, Green, Cummings, etc.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Jun 22, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FSU coaches are having to work 3x as hard...
to our recruit vs their advantage, and to make up for CTC….it might look almost even, but the work being put in is nowhere near equal…
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.
Elayne Boosler
by NaGaNole on Jun 22, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't sure either, but I guess he's thinking Christian Green and Chaz Green?
Just wants to beat the Gators
by DA-2 on Jun 22, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he mixed up the 2 Christians ...
Green and Jones and said Green and Green by mistake.
by RishiM on Jun 22, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone wants to be a Gator right now. They could have their class done with already, but they’re looking for specific things. And If I’m a fan of another team in Florida, I’m reasonably happy that the Gators are taking certain players right now. They seem to be looking for measurable instead of game film.
by gahnki on Jun 22, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't it also kind of dick
to offer, but tell someone you can’t commit? You shouldn’t offer unless you’re willing to take the person. At least, that’s my opinion.
Just wants to beat the Gators
by DA-2 on Jun 22, 2009 12:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it is, but a lot of schools do it
by FSUncensored on Jun 22, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Including Florida State
As much as I hate the Gators, it is common practice.
by pbysh on Jun 22, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 down and about 5 to go the DL. I’m glad we got this somewhat unexpected commit, I was really beginning to get concerned about our DL situation.
Ameica, Land of the free and home to the entitled.
by levynole on Jun 22, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great news
He looks to be a great prospect.
by fsunole23 on Jun 22, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to the Noles Tavaris!
You picked the right school if playing D-Line in the NFL is your goal.
by GrassyNole on Jun 22, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know it's early but we have any film on him?
I couldn’t find anything on Youtube.
by FSUjab on Jun 22, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HEY GUYS, Just checking in!
Sorry for not being around for so long… life took over.
Anyhow, I am glad it was pointed out that North Carolina was looking at this kid. That makes me feel a lot better about his upside.
by pbysh on Jun 22, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did you ever get that mobile device
working with posting on TN? Seems like you were hacking around with it.
by coonhound on Jun 22, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it works, but it needs some refinement before I can share it with you guys.
Maybe I’ll get around to it sometime this week.
by pbysh on Jun 22, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is anyone else surprised this guy was our next commit?
I thought the coaches were orchestrating a massive 10 commit day for Showtime or something with a big name to start it off, kind of as a reward for committing early.
by pbysh on Jun 22, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought he would end up at UNC after UF turned him down
Didn’t someone say that TB wasn’t that interested in FSU, a couple months ago? Regardless… glad he came to his senses and its a nice pickup for the Noles.
by CSI Nole on Jun 22, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same here
Defense is not the problem.
by badknees81 on Jun 22, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad that turned out to be false
Defense is not the problem.
by badknees81 on Jun 22, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't we have a Name-the-Fan-Post-a-thon
regarding Tavaris Barnes and his interest in UNC?
by coonhound on Jun 22, 2009 5:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
De'Joshua Johnson to FSU
Nice pick-up.
by ThaRinger on Jun 22, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Am shocked that he committed today rather than on Sept. 27th
as he’s been saying for months (seemingly) to honour his fallen teammate (Norman “Pooh” Griffith). Can’t say I’m mad about it – just shocked!
by RishiM on Jun 22, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the fact that Barnes will play DE
Just read the little Q&A dealy on WC and Barnes said he’ll be at DE. He’s gonna try to put on a little bit of weight (to end up at 260-270 in a couple years) and keep his quickness. I like that move alot if he does indeed stay at DE. Seems like the past several years it wouldn’t even be a question – he would be moved to the inside. I think it’s safe to say Jimbo had/will have a say on whether he stays outside. Barnes seems like a kid with a good work ethic who knows his ceiling is high at the SDE position and is ready to work. Pretty pumped!
ps – Welcome aboard DJ Johnson!!!!!!!!!! What a good day!
by dol-phanatic on Jun 22, 2009 5:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here is a crazy thought from out of left field.
Since we are lagging in commits behind UF, our biggest competitors for top recruits in Fla. other than UM, maybe it won’t be so bad if they shoot their load early and max out soon. Wouldn’t this give us the opportunity to keep looking for those other players that hadn’t reached their potential until their upcoming senior year, or sleepers if you will, who will have breakout performances once the HS kids actually start playing ball in Sept., thus kinda locking out UF.
I realize this goes against the traditional train of thought of getting as much talent as you possibly can, as early as you can, but since we seem to be a step behind I started wondering what if. Of course this doesn’t mean we would stop trying, but I am just looking at this as the glass being half empty.
Or do you think that the top 5 and 4 stars are pretty much identified by the end of their junior year of HS and after that the rest are 2nd tier?
I also realize most of the top ones have already been identified, but if UF maxes out with commits, wouldn’t this be a great recruiting tool to use against them?
Or maybe I should just stop drinking the bourbon laced kool-aid, get real, and stop worrying about our competition? Then again, a couple of more days like today, and possibly after Showtime, and we might be right up with them belly crawling filthy reptiles in the number of commits.
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em
by FrankDNole on Jun 22, 2009 5:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Frank I think that has a lot oif merit.
The lesson is do not reach early. If you reach, reach late.
by FSUncensored on Jun 22, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see what you are saying
but nobody is taking our targets. Yes we recruited some of these kids, but the guys we are heavy heavy on, nobody is taking them. UF does get to pick and choose a little more than us, but that comes with the success. I don’t think you have to have all the early commits to have a great class. But it can help.
by SWFLNole. on Jun 22, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every year a few guys rise to the top at the end of each cycle
Carlos Dunlap comes to mind. Seems like no one really knew about the kid, then all of a sudden he is a 5 star and ranked in the top 10 in the nation.
by NoleThruandThru on Jun 22, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DJ!!
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Jun 22, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yea
LJ just told me DJ committed.. They were working on some sort of multi telecast thing maybe…pending if LJ liked fsu enough to commit
by genron187 on Jun 22, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait…. are you saying LJ might commit tonight too?
by officelinebacker on Jun 22, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, looks like LJ just has to go to a certain school in Columbus now...
Darn, that’s just too bad.
by gahnki on Jun 22, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do think FSU ends up with LJ
Won’t be easy of course.
by FSUncensored on Jun 22, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol
I missed hat Big33 game. Did Prior look good
by FSUncensored on Jun 22, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to tell. It is a high school All Star game after all. The Ohio squad used a revised Air-Raid offense. Pretty much throwing at a 10:1 rate (no exaggeration) so he was in pass pro almost exclusively. There was little pass rush from PA so I assume he did fine. If I didn’t notice him doing badly then it’s a good thing.
by gahnki on Jun 22, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DJ STORY UP!!
by FSUncensored on Jun 22, 2009 6:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I needed this
Not that I was getting worried about our class, as mentioned above the kids we have been chasing haven’t signed with anyone else. But things were becoming boring with the dead quiet we were going through. I think TB went public with his commitment because our staff doesn’t tell people to sit on their commitments. If they did then TB and DJ could have waited until the Showdown in hopes that a couple more kids would announce with them.
I also agree that the Gators’ class is filling up too fast. With the commitments they already have, any DB or WR would have to be insane to sign with them. And to make it even better a good chunk of the skill players they have signed are from out of state, leaving us a better chance to fill up on local talent who can go back home and recruit their friends.
by osceolafan850 on Jun 22, 2009 6:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That last sentence
could have come straight out of the article I wrote about regional recruiting.
by SWFLNole. on Jun 22, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meyer’s downfall will be the same as the U’s.
FSU is sitting pretty with a number of good players. Especially a number of skill position guys.
by gahnki on Jun 22, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
after watching film and listening to my coach friends who have coached against him, I am supremely surprsied that the coaches think he is the player for us.
the 75 on ESPN may be a little bit of a give away, from what I hear.
by SWFLNole. on Jun 25, 2009 2:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The talent seems to be there, we just need to coach this kid...
I like the film. His problem is his technique, not his talent.
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.
Elayne Boosler
by NaGaNole on Jun 26, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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