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Could Florida State's NCAA Mess Have Been Avoided? Why FSU Should Drop Their Appeal

First, you need to realize that the Committee on Infraction's (COI) response to FSU's appeal is not a final decision.  Let's review how this process works.  

Prosecution:  NCAA Committee on Infractions (COI)

Defendant:  FSU

Judge (of the appeals):  NCAA Infractions Appeals Committee (IAC)  

So this response is from the COI, the committee that originally handed down the sanctions and is now opposing FSU's appeal.  It was issued in response to FSU's appeal.  The final judgement will come from the IAC, which as noted above, will consider the arguments from FSU and the COI before rendering it's final verdict.  The COI and IAC are comprised of different members.  

With that out of the way let's discuss the COI's response to FSU's appeal.  This is by far the longest article ever to appear on TomahawkNation (which just hit half a million visitors in under a year!), so please take your time reading.  I've pasted large sections of the NCAA's response inside, as well as some analysis.  

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I.  Origin of the Case

1_medium Rumor has it that this all could have been avoided.  Some say that FSU President T. K. Wetherell wanted Athletic Director Dave Hart out and went digging for dirt, ordering the full-scale investigation.  Let me be very clear:  there was no reason to investigate this.  Institutions disqualify athletes all the time for cheating and they do not decide to launch full-scale investigations into the case and they do not shoot off flares to alert the NCAA  The basketball player who admitted to cheating didn't have any eligibility left.  FSU should have failed him in the course and moved on.    This investigation was vindictive, personally motivated, costly in many ways, and unnecessary.

2_medium So the number climbed from one basketball player to 22 because FSU decided to conduct an internal investigation.  FSU says there are 22 cheaters, but the NCAA wonders if there are actually more...

3_medium Of course, the NCAA leapt at the chance to investigate a gift-wrapped violations case.  There was no need for FSU to investigate this as they did, and unfortunately for the 'Noles, FSU's investigation turned up much more than T.K. thought it would.  

4_medium So that's the background.  

5_medium This is particularly damning as FSU met all of the factors needed to impose a vacation of wins penalty.  FSU had a duty to uphold a culture of complainace and they did not do so.  The players were ineligible at the time of cheating.  

 

Standard of Review

6_medium Ah yes, the dreaded "abuse of discretion" standard.  What does that mean?   Typically, it is a failure to take into proper consideration the facts and law relating to a particular matter; an Arbitrary or unreasonable departure from precedent and settled judicial custom.

Where a trial court must exercise discretion in deciding a question, it must do so in a way that is not clearly against logic and the evidence. An improvident exercise of discretion is an error of law and grounds for reversing a decision on appeal. It does not, however, necessarily amount to bad faith, intentional wrong, or misconduct by the trial judge.

Abuse of Discretion is a very difficult standard to overcome in an appellate proceeding.  FSU has to show that the NCAA's decision was clearly against logic and the evidence.  That won't be easy and the 'Noles are shelling out huge bucks to try to save Bobby's wins.  I doubt T.K. ever thought his attempt to force out Dave Hart (allegedly) would lead to his former coach and good friend Bobby Bowden losing his wins.  Could it be that FSU is appealing against the great weight of the evidence because T.K. feels guilty for doing this to his friend?  

 

ISSUE RAISED ON APPEAL & COMMITTEE RESPONSE

7_medium The NCAA is essentially saying that FSU is the exact type of case for which the vacation of wins penalty was devised.  

8_medium   FSU:  "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain".  NCAA Committee on Infractions:  "Oh, you mean THAT man that you tipped us to?  We would have never seen him had you not pulled the curtain back and shone the spotlight on him."  FSU's appeal really did fail to address the important issues and instead made arguments that briefly touched on the issue and then went off on other tangents.  I was unsure of how FSU would conduct their appeal because the NCAA's case looked very strong, but now that I see what they did it makes me sad to know that they have wasted huge dollars on this worthless endeavor.  

9_medium This is very important so pay attention.  The NCAA changed the standard of review in 2008.  This effectively decreases the importance of previous successful appeals by schools who sook to regain their vacated wins.  FSU cites the Georgia Tech and Oklahoma cases, but those schools were appealing under the old standard.  It's doubtful they would win under the new standard, just as it is very doubtful FSU will prevail.  This really makes me wonder why FSU would appeal these relatively light sanctions.  The scholarship losses are minimal and won't impact the program going forward. The probation term is short.  The vacated wins only hurt the past, and rational people don't believe that Bowden will catch Paterno when they consider Penn State's cupcake non-conference schedule and pathetic Big 10 slate (Northwestern, Indiana, Purdue, Indiana, anyone?) against FSU's murderous non-conference gauntlet including games at Florida, Oklahoma, BYU, and USF, while playing in a conference that had 10 bowl teams last year.  Could it be that FSU is appealing because of a guilty conscience?  Whatever the reason, this appeal is foolish.  It continually drags FSU out into the public eye and allows writers to rehash FSU's problems.  FSU should have accepted the penalty and moved forward.  It is what they should do now before they waste more money in a ridiculous and losing public battle.

10_medium This is sort of like disciplining your children.  There are many factors you will consider, but there is no set rubric you use.  Instead, you'll consider all of the factors when rendering your decision.  

 

Factor 1:  The Nature, Number, and Seriousness of the Violations

11_medium FSU can't contest these findings because these are facts that FSU led the NCAA to when they shouted for the NCAA to come investigate and embarrass Dave Hart.  These are serious allegations, and they happen at most of the major D1 programs.  The difference is that other programs do not order ill-advised investigations into these matters.  To recap, FSU has admitted to the above findings and is still appealing.  

12_medium Here the NCAA is laughing at FSU.  FSU said "hey, what about the Georgia Tech Case" and the NCAA COI said well um, you meet all of those factors.  Without much legal argument for this factor, we see FSU turn to other points which don't directly address the actual factors...

13_medium The NCAA cites evidence that the cheating happened in more than one course and that one employee instructed other employees how to help the athletes cheat.  

14_medium Disingenuous is right.  I took this course at FSU and did not cheat and anyone taking this course would have been forced to read those instructions before beginning the examination.  Ignorance is no excuse.  This argument from FSU is baffling and we should all be embarrassed that FSU's money is going toward this.  Explicit instructions that the test was to be taken without outside help of any kind, including notes (and obviously tutors), combined with signed admissions from students... and yet FSU still tries to challenge this point as some sort of mistake.  

15_medium

 

Factor 2: Conduct & Motives of the Individuals Involved in the Violations

If I was running this appeal, I would leave this factor alone.  How can you spin your tutors giving answers to students during the test?  Can there be an acceptable motive here?  

16_medium

17_medium This would be quite funny if FSU hadn't seriously tried to argue this point.  

"We don't really believe the student athletes cheated.  They got inappropriate help"_  Florida State President T.K. Wetherell.

One of the more ridiculous statements T.K. has made in his time as president.  But there's more...

18_medium The reason why Florida State's argument sounds sort of ridiculous is because FSU really has no leg to stand on, particularly considering the new elevated standard of "abuse of discretion."  We're condemning our conduct from one side of our mouth and denying it with the other side.  While the NCAA COI's response seems slightly unprofessional and overaggressive, it's clear that they are incensed that FSU is actually trying to appeal this decision.  I'm quite sure that the NCAA didn't want to badly punish FSU.  They will never again hammer an elite level program, it takes away too much money from their pocket.  Their thinking was probably like this:

"Okay, a few scholarships, slight probation, and we'll take some of Bowden's wins which doesn't matter any way because unless Paterno suddenly retires he will stay ahead of Bowden by virtue of a cakewalk schedule."

FSU is looking a gift horse in the mouth and spitting in its face.

19_medium Yeah... I would have probably let this factor alone.  Challenging this factor just gave the COI another opportunity to unload on Florida State.  They are right, too, in that some of the athletes who took the course were guys who have struggled to stay eligible even with the easy "A" in the course.  I'm looking at you, defensive tackles...

 

Factor 3:  Corrective Actions Taken by the Institution 

20_medium This is one of the more ridiculous paragraphs in the entire report.  It is saying "without a vacation of wins penalty, we would have taken away more scholarships and reserve the right to do so."  By going forward with this appeal Florida State is showing blatant disregard for the future of the program at the expense of protecting two seasons in which the 'Noles went 7-6.  While I don't think FSU will lose more scholarships (because they aren't getting the wins back), this action has to show Jimbo Fisher where the universitite's priorities really stand.  

21_medium Takeaway:  

1.  It does not matter when FSU knew the athletes cheated, it matters when they cheated.  They are ineligible at that instant and that has always been the rule.  Further, FSU can't seriously attempt to argue that they weren't on notice of the cheating when their own tutors were perpetrating the cheating!      

2.  I'm very glad they FSU didn't lose any post-season appearances.  

22_medium I can certainly understand FSU's desire to understand the weight of each factor, but I can equally understand the NCAA's need to maintain flexibility in evaluation and penalization.  Lacking a truly playable hand, FSU again drew for the precedent card.  

23_medium This seems almost tongue and cheek and this whole response is a bit juveline (as was FSU's appeal).  The committee clearly believes that FSU's appeal is making a mockery of the system.  It is almost as if FSU expects to recieve credit (their wins back) simply for turning in their homework on time.  The important sentence here is that just as in the Ole Miss case (the original case setting out the factors), FSU's negatives far outweigh its positives.  

 

Tomorrow:  Factors 4-7 and a conclusion!

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So, why didn’t the university lie from the start? Did they fear harsher consequences if the real truth eventually came out? I don’t know how universities and the NCAA are connected. It seems like universities should almost never get in trouble if it’s based on the honor system. Why does anyone ever report a violation?

by Jaguar on Jun 29, 2009 3:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Ah, I skimmed it, didn’t see the Dave Hart conspiracy. Never heard that before.

by Jaguar on Jun 29, 2009 5:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you think that TK may have resigned because of how this blew up and how it negatively affected Bobby? Also if he wanted Heart out why not just fire him?

by vegasnole9399 on Jun 29, 2009 4:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Why didn't TK just fire him?

Because he is an idiot. That is why. He is a vindictive dumb redneck who was threatened by a professional.

by noles55 on Jun 29, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hart had a contract

with a sizeable buyout. TK’s only options were to wait not to renew Hart’s contract (what he did eventually) or to dig up dirt that would allow him to dismiss Hart and not pay the buyout.

by Wild@Heart Nole on Jun 29, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever happened to the 1998 Vols Academic Scandal?

Although I disagree with forcing a university to forfeit games after the fact if it only later learns that a player(s) cheated on their own, I do agree with holding the institution accountable for what it’s employees knew and what they did (especially here when three separate employees were involved). The institution should have been considered to have knowledge of their ineligibility when it’s employees became aware. The vacation of wins is Florida State’s penalty – not a Bobby Bowden penalty (though, in this case, he happens to be hurt worse just because of where he is in his career), and Florida State is comprised of employees. “Florida State” received notice of the cheating when 3 of their employees learned of(actually actively engaged in) cheating. As of that point, no problem in holding FSU by playing academically ineligible players that FSU employees knew should have been academically ineligible. It’s disingenuous to say that FSU was unaware of it … FSU isn’t a separate entity that can be told or learn of things. It receives notice when persons in its employ learn of things.

But whatever happened to the cheating scandal that broke at University of Tennessee after they won the National Championship against FSU. There was talk of tutors writing papers for the football players — but I never heard anything more after the story originally broke. If the tutors were actually involved, Tennessee should have lost games where ineligible players played — including the championship game. That wouldn’t give FSU the national championship … but Tennessee’s dry spell would still be intact.

by txnole on Jun 29, 2009 8:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks!

I had done searches … but they had come up empty.

by txnole on Jun 29, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's a nice copy of a blurb buried in the sports section of some meaningless paper...

but check out the last sentence. It’s never good when one of your own professors calls out the program…

However, Tennessee professor Linda Bensel-Myers said the NCAA didn’t look deep enough.

This is why FSU should never have opened the door.

by FSUjab on Jun 29, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amazing coverage of this issue

After reading this, I’m a little embarassed to be a Seminole. I’m more or less in agreement with you now. Still hate to see Paterno win the record.

by missourinole on Jun 29, 2009 9:37 AM EDT reply actions  

It started when FSU hired an incompetent like TK...

why FSU fans allowed that and stood behind him is mind boogling. We will pay for years to come. The good ole boys are an anchor on FSU.

by noles55 on Jun 29, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's all fruit from the same poison tree

This type of intellectual dishonesty, turning common sense on its head and basically playing Twister with the facts is exactly what happens in every organizations in which the leadership structure breaks down.

It’s sad seeing grownups turning into contortionists to try and protect a crumbling organization.

This is just like Clinton attacking Ken Starr and Bush defending the indefensible intelliegence on Iraq — the “issue” is a lot bigger than the “issue.” That is, the real issue isn’t our bumbling, embarassing handling of the investigation and appeal, it’s that we are so incompetent in the first place.

by Fsued on Jun 29, 2009 9:45 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

As one who has tried to follow this whole ridiculous fiasco closely, I disagree with just one of your assumptions.

RE; Factor 3: Corrective Actions Taken by the Institution

This is one of the more ridiculous paragraphs in the entire report. It is saying “without a vacation of wins penalty, we would have taken away more scholarships and reserve the right to do so.”

I agree the COI would and could have taken away more scholarships had the vacation of wins penalty not been included in the sanctions. That is not the point of my disagreement with your analysis.

If I understand your POV correctly, I disagree with your assumption that the possibility exist that if we lose the final appeal, the IAC will increase the number or scholarship reductions or send it back to the COI for modifications to the original sanctions. I have not read or seen that part about “reserving the right to do so in the future” anywhere and I can’t see that happening. I do understand that it may implied and that the NCAA feels they can do whatever they want to.

For the NCAA to allow any additional sanctions after a successful FSU appeal would be vindictive in nature, go against the nature of the appeal process, be unethical, and go against what I will call fair play. While I agree with you that we should have accepted our punishment and moved on, if additional penalties are imposed should FSU win the appeal, I would support further appeals or possible legal action. Again though as I previously stated, I do realize we are talking about the NCAA and anything is possible.

With that being said, I do realize you disagree with my opinion, but that is just my POV on the likely outcome should FSU happen to win the appeal. We will have to wait to see what the final verdict is when the time finally comes and puts an end to this ridiculous sideshow that should never have occurred in the first place, as you so eloquently have stated.

>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em

by FrankDNole on Jun 29, 2009 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

They reserve the right to do so

In case anymore light is shed on this case in the future. And they find the other members of the athletics sports teams were cheating that were not originally reported.

This is a way of covering themselves with legal mumbojumbo so that if the issue arises again Florida State can not come back and say you have already punished us you can’t punish us twice for the same crime. This is the NCAA’s way of saying we will still punish you for crimes un-reported. I think there needs to be a statute of limitations on this though.

by PewterPirate55 on Jun 29, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

The way I understand things, they can go back and levy additional different penalties.

I asked for clarification because it doesn’t make sense, but that’s how I understand the process. Hopefully I am wrong.

by Bud Elliott on Jun 29, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

It makes T. K. look like Don Quixote

The truth is programs across the nation all take marginal recruits with no hope of staying eligible without “some help.” Let us be realistic here.

Most programs design elaborate structures to shield these type things from the prying eyes of the public and the NCAA.

Our friends down the road have had their Ronnie Wilsons, shooting incidents and the like along with 24 arrests lately. How do you think some of these guys stay eligible? The SAT scores of gator football players are some of the lowest in the nation.

I don’t recall hearing about any gator football players becoming academically ineligible. It is almost unheard of over there. Why is that?

It will probably effect recruiting a bit as players will realize other schools can get them answers without a administrators launching public investigations over it and causing probation.

I believe in most institutions this is all discussed in fine detail among the Presidents, athletic directors and the coaches although I would imagine fail safe systems are in place to never link any of it to show a coache’s knowledge of the situation.

The problem here is a lack of communication and animosity between Wetherell and Hart. Also a certain naivete with Wetherell. He obviously was not in the loop concerning “academic assistance.”

It is ironic that in order to get at Hart he ended up putting a blemish on Bowden the guy he is now trying to protect. I think he does feel somewhat guilty for being the bull in the China shop. I also have a feeling there were those who may have suggested to him it might be time to let somebody else take a shot at running the ship.

I like Wetherell but let’s face it this is one area where he simply did not have the big picture.

by DocHoliday2 on Jun 29, 2009 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

A through analysis, and I love the passion

but I see two nits: Wetherell didn’t need to foment an investigation the remove Hart at any time TK felt like it. And appeals courts, if that’s how the committee is acting, don’t usually tack on harsher penalties out of spite for weak appeals.

by FiestaNole on Jun 29, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

No, TK didn't....but he did anyway....

perhaps he felt he needed justification for firing a solid AD for no reason other than “I want to micromanage the athletic dept”. Maybe he is just a power hungry vindictive jerk drunk on power. Either way, he did MAJOR damage to FSU and Bobby for no reason and he should be remembered for that.

by noles55 on Jun 29, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't Hart have a buyout?

dirt would have allowed him to avoid paying it as the contract probably had a clause to void a buyout in that case.

by Wild@Heart Nole on Jun 29, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

This seems too tin foil hat-ish to me.

by Jaguar on Jun 29, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hart had a 10 year contract from 1999 to 2009.

TK initially told Hart his contract would not be renewed when it expired. But then TK did not want to wait until the end of 2009 to get rid of Hart, so he basically bought out Hart’s contract for $475,000 plus a annuity which brought the total to well over $500K. How much of this was due to Hart forcing out Jeff, how much was due to the cheating scandal, how much was plain old dislike, and how much was due to pressure from Bobby B, we can speculate all we want, but we will never really know.

I will say this, TK was not afraid to throw the universities money around (e.g. Jeff Bowden, Dave Hart).

>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em

by FrankDNole on Jun 29, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just about to comment that.

I’m sure the University could use that money right now during this budget crisis.

Just wants to beat the Gators

by DA-2 on Jun 30, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

to be a fly on Jimbo's wall...

We will likely never get his feelings on the matter, as he seems to have a true respect for Bowden (as do I), but I imagine he would have gladly taken the punishment and moved on.

by jasonole59 on Jun 29, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

People do strange things when they become old & senile.

That shouldn’t detract from what Bobby has done for FSU prior to 2001.

Also, since BB’s entire legacy and identity is centered around the Noles, I’m sure it’s been hard for him to consider life post-FSU, even if he knows he should have retired years ago.

by FSUjab on Jun 29, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just hope he dont try to pull a Farve or MJ

and try to come out of retirement. As funny as it would be I would hate to see him try.

Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry

by Desman on Jun 29, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Give him a symbollic position

But make sure it is away from the Football team.

Make up a position …. Student Athlete Counselor and Coordinator.

Basically he runs orientation for the new freshmen student athletes. If student athletes get into trouble the come see him for counseling. Maybe with the right guidance and proper father figure we wouldn’t see so many of them getting into trouble. He can organize charity functions for the athletes.

I dunno but I could see him being successful in a fatherly/grandfatherly mentor type role with the players.

I could be wrong and I could be blinded by my own respect for him.

by PewterPirate55 on Jun 30, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was my point too FSUjab, you can still have respect for what a coach

has done, and realize that it is time to move on at the same time. It’s not mutually exclusive.

by jasonole59 on Jun 30, 2009 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Bobby really wants the wins record, and really loves FSU...

He’d take a job at a place like FAU. Not FAU, but like FAU. Get his whole family as the coaching staff, and he can sit in a rocking chair on a tower and collect 4-5 wins a year for the next 10 years. It’s be a recruiting boon for a small D1 school like that. The old “name you know” from that Eddie Murphy movie “The Distinguished Gentleman”…lol

I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.

Elayne Boosler

by NaGaNole on Jun 30, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions  

As much as I think that could work

I want to let BB go. I want to put him in the books as the man that made FSU. When people do the face of the program art. I want it to be BB. but I dont want him to help destroy what he made here. I hope there is another reason to why he is going throw this. I hope its for the better of the program and school as to why he is taking us all on this ride.

Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry

by Desman on Jun 30, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great analysis.

However, I disagree with the opening point, “Some say that FSU President T. K. Wetherell wanted Athletic Director Dave Hart out and went digging for dirt, ordering the full-scale investigation.”

One of the reasons GT got the initial vacation penalty is because its initial investigation didn’t turn anything up. Then, even the statute of limitations on GT’s original issues had expired, the committee basically said: because your own investigation didn’t turn anything up, but we later got outside information that there were issues, we’re still going to investigate you, penalize you, and maybe even be more harsh because you didn’t find anything yourselves.

So if FSU’s president didn’t get to the bottom of it now, it could be worse later.

by Joe W on Jun 30, 2009 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Surprising footnote

Though the academic scandal was not restricted to athletes, it does appear that the people who cheated were disproportionately student athletes.

The footnote re: athlete performance in the class vs. non-athlete performance in the class is particularly damning. 74% of the athletes got an A in the class and only 47% of the non-athletes got an A. We have had some extremely intelligent student athletes in the past, but I would be surprised to to see such a wide disparity in performance between athletes and non-athletes – especially in a class taken by this many athletes (the larger number of student athletes taking the class would decrease the likelihood that the average performance would be swayed by either an above average student athlete or a below average student athlete).

Considering that only 2 of the 61 athletes that re-took the class scored as well or better than the prior time, there was certainly an advantage gained by this unauthorized assistance.

by txnole on Jun 30, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I totally agree, but this was an issue orchestrated by FSU academic support--

a separate entity from the Athletics program for most purposes. If T.K. doesn’t witch hunt this, it never comes up.

by Bud Elliott on Jun 30, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

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