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Monday Morning Tomahawks 06.03.09

Good Morning and Go Noles!  Here's the news that will probably interest you:

First up is Boston College losing their quarterback.  As you learned yesterday, he was suspended for academics and has decided to transfer.  Domonique Davis christens BC's great quarterback adventure - Dr. Saturday (some background on the situation), and here's some VIDEO on the possible replacements: Eagle in Atlanta -- : Before they were Eagles: Boek and Tuggle addition  Boek apparently leads.  

More football now, as we have Phil Steele's Offensive Line Experience Chart-- FSU ranks 22nd Nationally (close 3rd in ACC to VT), w/ 89 Combined Starts  That represents a huge change from last season, when we had 21, making us one of the three least experienced offensive lines in the country.

In baseball news, Arkansas Razorbacks Names To Watch · ScalpEm.com and then Steve Ellis of the Tallahassee Democrat asks: Who would you pick for am All-Mike Martin Era Team  Steve also chats with Mike about the upcoming Arkansas series.

Back to football, with two non-FSU items.  First, Chantrant catches up with North Alabama, a new football program that might have as many as 6 ex-FSU players on its roster, including Preston Parker and Will Furlong.

Also, remember the piece on scheduling?  I wrote:

Another message here is to avoid 1-AA teams.  Voters seem to be averse to those who play the lower division schools.  The key is to shell out the extra $300K payment that it takes to secure a garbage 1A school over a 1AA school.  There's a good chance that the 1A school is actually worse than the 1AA school, and the name recognition value it totally worth it. 

Well now we find this article UGA to pay nearly $1 million to play lesser Division I-A opponent | ajc.com

General Athletics administration:  Section Six: The Columbus Dispatch: Secrecy 101  The Family Eductational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) Not a FUPA, mind you, which was created to protect the privacy of students' academic records, has come to be interpreted broadly and inconsistently by the NCAA's various member institutions. Here's a scoreboard of how every D1 team did (FSU did quite well).

And once again, remember to listen to the great interview at Garnet and Great with FSU legend James Colzie.

We have some great stuff in the works for the coming weeks, with the ulitmate goal of getting you totally prepped for what should be an awesome season of Seminole Football.

Rivalry stuff:  ScalpEm.com Reader Mailbag (Sorta) Volume 1 · ScalpEm.com  Saclpem answers the question:  Nole CC, off subject but would you agree that Gator Envy is out of control? Warchant is flooded with threads hoping they lose the WCWS and last weekend praying Miami would beat their baseball team. I wish we could focus on our team, on a Seminole site, all those threads just make Seminole Nation as a whole look bad. Just my 2 cents.  Get over there and let him know your thoughts.  He makes sone quality points.  

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Give me Stephen Drew, JD Drew, Buster Posey, and Marshall McDougall to start my roster.

by l0stnumber on Jun 3, 2009 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

I like McDougall,

and 6 HR in a game is impressive, but it’s hard to leave Luis Alicea out of the 2nd base position.

by MattDNole on Jun 3, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah you bring up a good point about McDougall MattD… I’d take Alicea there… there’s plenty of pop to be found elsewhere.

"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't." - General George S. Patton

by NoleCC on Jun 3, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not a big fan of Dirt's glove

while he was at FSU. I wanted to take Luis Alicea instead, but he played 2B at FSU… urgh.

"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't." - General George S. Patton

by NoleCC on Jun 3, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Others

C: Grifol
1B: Mientkiewicz
2B: McDougall
3B: Martinez-Esteve
SS: Dirt Drew or Tony Thomas or Luis Alicea
LF: Frank Fazzini
CF: Shane Robinson
RF: JD Drew

by coonhound on Jun 3, 2009 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

EME!!!

Guy could hit it a mile, but he couldn’t catch a cold at times.

by MattDNole on Jun 3, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah if not for Ledbetter, EME would almost have to be a DH and not a field guy.

But Mientkiewcz’s glove is too good to leave him off of 1st, and Jeff has GOT to be on any all time team.

by MattDNole on Jun 3, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Martinez-Esteve!

Aha, that was my other guy who didn’t come to my head right away like the others generally do. And Mientkiewicz, how’d I forget? I was just spelling his name for someone a week ago.

by l0stnumber on Jun 3, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorrento

1984-1986: .352 with 48 homeruns and 222 RBI

by MattDNole on Jun 3, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually I pulled a Sotomayor and misspoke...

that was Fazzini from just 85

Total in three years was .369 79HR 270 RBI..

But Sorrento was a better major leaguer

by coonhound on Jun 3, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heh... Ledbetter...

1982-1984: 97 HR, 346 RBI and 346 total bases

42 HR in 1984

Can we have him twice?

by MattDNole on Jun 3, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

He bats LF and DH... just cause...

I wish I had seen the early 80’s noles…

I really only started watching in 86… that stupid Arizona team started a curse that continues to this day…

by coonhound on Jun 3, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

There are plenty to choose from...

You have to say this about 11- he has ALWAYS had talent on the team.

by coonhound on Jun 3, 2009 10:09 AM EDT reply actions  

The 1993 Starting Rotation featuring...

Jonathan Johnson 1.68 10-1
Paul Wilson 1.94 11-5
John Wasdin 3.15 10-1

But our hitting was subpar… unfortunate

by coonhound on Jun 3, 2009 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Football players who played baseball?

Victor Floyd
Deion Sanders
Shawn McCorkel
Kenny Felder
Terrel Buckley
Danny Kanell
James Colzie
Thad Busby
Dominic Robinson
Alex Boston
D’Vontrey Richardson

Who else?

by coonhound on Jun 3, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

He never played baseball here, but he was drafted by the Yankees.

Charlie Ward

I used to try to make the argument that he was the greatest college athlete ever because he was a starting punter as a Freshman, a starting QB by his Junior year, a starting PG on a Sweet 16/Elite 8 team, won every award possible as a Senior QB, and was drafted in all three major sports.

by MattDNole on Jun 3, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

And if Kenny Felder hadn't signed with the

Brewers, he may never have won the Heisman…

I think Football to Basketball has to be the hardest transition physically.

by coonhound on Jun 3, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brad Johnson

was actually a contributor on one of Kennedy’s NCAA tournament teams as freshman. Started 12 games.

by LaneFenner on Jun 3, 2009 11:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Brad was quite a bball player

back in the day.

"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't." - General George S. Patton

by NoleCC on Jun 3, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely...

I didn’t know it until he recently started showing up at our b-ball games.

His former house in Tallahassee had an indoor court in the gym.

by MattDNole on Jun 3, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

I would love to see Roberts become our next coach. Many of the 32 homers in 2 years were very very clutch hits also, game deciders.

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Chris Roberts, one of the highest draft picks to ever attend
Florida State, was a three year starter in the outfi eld and
on the mound for the Seminoles from 1990-92. Roberts
was a 1992 Collegiate Baseball All-American, as well as an
All-ACC selection. The Middleburg, Fla., product racked up
numerous awards at Florida State, including the 1991 Metro Conference Player-
of-the-Year.

 Roberts hit .301, smashing 32 homeruns and driving in 175 runs. As
a pitcher, Roberts posted a 23-8 record with 202 strikeouts. While at Florida State,
Roberts started in leftfield for the USA National Team in the summer of 1991 and
again at the 1992 Olympic Games in Barcelona. Roberts was selected in the first
round of the 1992 June draft, and later signed with the New York Mets.
 
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/fsu/sports/m-basebl/auto_pdf/FirstTeamAll-Americans.pdf

It is a little hard to leave out Dick Howser a two time all american, MLB rookie of the year, hall of famer MLB and College and pennant winning manager of the Royals.

DEION SANDERS had a stellar football career at Florida State and went on to play in
both the NFL and Major Leagues. Not only is Sanders the only athlete ever to play in a Super Bowl and a World Series, he made headlines in 1992 when on October 11 Sanders played for the Falcons in Miami and then took a charter flight to Pittsburgh for a playoff game that night.

Pulling double duty was nothing new for Sanders. In 1987, the three-sport star won a Metro Conference Championship in the 400M Relay and then turned around and delivered the game-winning hit in the Metro Conference Championship game that evening against the Koreans.
:

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/fsu/sports/m-basebl/auto_pdf/ThisIsFSUBaseball.pdf

by DocHoliday2 on Jun 3, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow, looks like UGA will have a tough schedule in 2013 with Clemson and GT added to their SEC east schedule.

It seems to me, if you’re going to pony up almost a cool million for a lesser D1 program, you’d want to pick a school that’s not from Florida or Texas…I’m just sayin’…(ahem…I know UGA should have no problem, but the talent in those states is crazy)

by jasonole59 on Jun 4, 2009 8:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Back on Chris Roberts

I remember one game he was pitching a close one and it was in extra innings. Roberts came to the plate and hit either a grand slam or three run homer to win it. I can’t remember which. I was thinking how do you beat a guy like this.

He is getting closer to home and coaching at Stetson now.

by DocHoliday2 on Jun 4, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

No rumors about the NCAAs decision?

by Jaguar on Jun 4, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

No.

Lots of CFB media are saying that some sort of decision was handed down yesterday. That is not my understanding at all. Here is my understanding:

The Committee On INFRACTIONS is the committee which handed down the initial punishment. They are not the committee hearing the appeal, that would be the Committee On Infractions APPEALS, a separate committee comprised of different members. What was submitted yesterday was the Committee on INFRACTIONS’ response to FSU’s appeal, and that response was submitted to the Committee on infractions APPEALS, which will render the appeals verdict. Said response was also distributed to FSU, from which they have 15 days to issue a final rebuttal, which will go to the Committee on infractions APPEALS (think of the Committee on Appeals as an appellate judge.). What happened yesterday wasn’t a ruling of any sort, but rather an opinion of the Committee who handed down the original ruling.

Timeline:

FSU appeals to the Committee on Infractions APPEALS

The Committee on Infractions (not the appeals committee) sends their response to FSU’s appeal to the APPEALS committee.

FSU then responds.

It’s an adversarial proceeding. Think of the Appeals committee like an appeals judge. The Infractions committee is the side wanting the original ruling to be upheld. And FSU is the appellant seeking relief, asking the appeals committee to overturn the infractions committee’s decision.

by Bud Elliott on Jun 4, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Posted on Scout: http://nolesports.tallahassee.com/article/20090603/FSU02/90603017

Supposedly the INFRACTIONS committee doesn’t think FSU should get to keep their wins. Now the question is how much does th INFRACTIONS committee decision factor into the APPEALS committee decision.

by Jaguar on Jun 5, 2009 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Personally, I don't think we deserve to keep them anyways, but

The INFRACTIONS committee is not going to reverse themselves just two months after rendering their decision.

It is up to the Appeals committee, comprised of different people.

by Bud Elliott on Jun 5, 2009 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

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