Florida State Alumni & Supporters Release Response to FSU's Response to NCAA COI's Response to FSU's Appeal
by Nattylite on Jul 1, 2009 12:36 PM EDT
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PrintAs I sit here writing this, a mixture of emotions are running through me. Emotions like embarassment, shock, horror, and disbelief. Each day I watch FSU's name being dragged through the mud in a sequence of appeals that serve absolutely no purpose other than to protect the win's of an 80+ year old egotist. Today, it was FSU's response to the COI's response to FSU's appeal (download the document and read the comments in the comment section of an excellent former appellate lawyer here).
Even on his way out the door, we are once again subjected to the enormous middle-finger of TK as he barrels down a selfish path with no reservations or thought given to the University whatsoever. Just when we thought we had seen it all, from the Jeff Bowden debacle along with the fall of the Dynasty right down to the biggest academic cheating scandal in the history of FSU (under TK's watch) here we have yet another blatant example of stupidity and ignorance.
I was waiting for the punch line there on page 19 of the "reponse" when we actually compared our current punishment to a hypothetical ban on the post-season, which will by far outweigh ANY current punishment we have received would actually be more FAIR to the University than taking away a few wins from an old man who doesn't even coach anymore. I mean that is a joke right? To even make the comparison is dangerous public relations, as an FSU opponent could suggest that the FSU appeals team is seriously suggesting that just that- forfeiting hundreds of thousands of dollars in revenue, (much less national exposure for future recruiting) is a worthy price tag for the pride of a man who has been milking the University for every penny he can get for the better part of this decade...
Time to step away from the keyboard for a second before I owe my workplace a new monitor.
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I feel the same, to an extent.
Can we just cap the wins total at retirement age or the age where SS kicks in (for normal people – at 2.5mil/yr, I’m sure BB isn’t eligible). That way, one of them has already won. We go back, figure out how many wins each of them had at a certain point in time, and call it good.
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FSU football gurus should have been worrying about the wins the day Fredo was hired not now. BB could spot Joepa the 14 wins he gave away during family sweepstakes and still be ahead of the game if not for that.
I was worried about it at the time why wasn’t somebody in the administration?
I can’t say T. K. is a worse president than Sandy D. however as he is the one that signed off on hiring Fredo. You can’t leave a gator in charge of the henhouse. T. K. should have forced BB to fire Fredo much sooner however there is no arguing that.
It is hard to build a dynasty but fairly easy to bring one down. Most anybody can do that.
Awesome statement
“It is hard to build a dynasty but fairly easy to bring one down. Most anybody can do that.”
DocHoliday2 FTW!!!
by PBD on Jul 1, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
How about a scale Doc?
Money on one side, Bobby Bowden on the other
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
'I'm not a Role Model" - Charles Barkley
Would fit nicely where that Seminole statue is...
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
'I'm not a Role Model" - Charles Barkley
I think you throw in the bling and a fat ring and have him taking the school for there money w/ BB.
This is BS. Someone needs to step up in the school and take control of this crap. How on earth can the school let this stuff keep going and drag it so far down. And how on earth can the boosters suport this crap. If the games are so importen then make it so that if the school fights for them hes leaves if not he can stay for one year unless we winn the ACCG and or the OB. Then he can stay for the last year and thats it. No ifs, ands, or Buts. Someone needs to put there damn foot down.
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Nattylite
I think you are taking the ban statement out of context, I don’t see it as a suggestion of University to substitute the vacation of wins with a ban on post season play.
The problem with the post season ban statement is that true or not you are putting it out that their we are actually suggesting this and our rivals will in fact use it against us. I don’t like a pro-FSU site putting ammo into the hands of our enemies, not a good move in my opinion and this isn’t the first time it’s happened here. While this may not have been the intention it is likely to be the result.
Perhaps suggestion is an unfair term
They clearly compared the vacation of wins penalty with a post season ban and then suggested that the ban might be more fair. To me, that’s hanging a carrot out there in front of the COI. Out of context? I don’t think so… a pretty strong statement some people will take issue to? Absolutely.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
'I'm not a Role Model" - Charles Barkley
Our rivals don't need us to put ammo into their hands.
This thing has already been highlighted in orange and blue Accent® and is on its way to a recruit near you.
Buca, I can see where you are coming from
…but the way I look at it, we have a lot more serious things to worry about than our rivals throwing sticks and stones right now.
We have an out of control administration dragging the name of FSU through the mud in some sort of anti-ritghteous conquest to secure the record of a man who should have quit long ago.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
'I'm not a Role Model" - Charles Barkley
When BB retires or dies.
And no I am not wishing him ill, I just want him gone.
You and me both brother.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
'I'm not a Role Model" - Charles Barkley
Nauseating
It’s so obvious that this University / Athletic Dept / Football Program are in dire need of new blood. The good news is that we can see the changing of the guard on the horizon with TK stepping down and with Jimbo as HCIW, but the fact that we’re so close just makes dealing with the present incompetence all the more frustrating. Hopefully by 2010 this mostly depressing and embarrassing era of FSU football will have come to an end.
by Dent Street Nole on Jul 1, 2009 6:55 PM EDT reply actions
I think it works out in the long run
Wetherell made it pretty clear he was going to hang onto Fisher at all costs. Don’t underestimate Fisher. There is a large contingent at LSU who wanted him to remain as head coach instead of hiring Lester and viewed him as a major catalyst in the LSU rise to prominence along with Saban.
I think we have a great head coach in waiting. He is showing a lot of versatility he never had a chance to demonstrate at LSU. By that I mean adapting to a zone blocking scheme, eliminating the fullback slot, etc. and involving Trickett.
It is a work in progress but I am pretty excited about it.
Totally agress
And I will add that there is still a large contingent here in Louisiana that want Jimbo back. I would like to say I’m confident that the administration knows what a good HCIW we have but just when you think they can’t get any worse they have another surprise in them.
As a side not about the actual statement, I’m speechless. I’m astounded by the arrogance and the sense of entitlement this administration has toward BB. Uncensored said it best; embarassment, shock, horror, and disbelief.
by lildrunknole on Jul 2, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Uncensored says a lot (thankfully!)
But he didn’t say embarrassment, shock, horror, and disbelief… lol.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
'I'm not a Role Model" - Charles Barkley
Sad to see it come to this
It is sad to see once powerful and respected FSU coming to this. Fighting for wins and all along it just stokes the fire against us and adds more criticism. Once respected coach Boby Bowden is now a figurehead and people counting the days for him to leave. Some atheletes play too long and do not go out when they are on top. They go out on the downside and this is what most people remember. Same thing is happening to BB. Don’t get me wrong. I am all for a change and ready for Fisher to take over but still. Bobby with assistance made FSU the team of the 90s. Now we are trying to recover from the past few years to get back to where we once were. The longer this appeal is drug out the longer the agony continues. FSU….let it go and move on. The future is now.
I think TK has his priorities MIXED UP!!!
I live in Panama City and we have FSU Panama City Campus and its in danger of being closed. They just spent millions on a new Science building too. But TK will fight, scratch and PAY big time for these 14 wins. And when it comes to keep our local branch open he told us we need to dig into our own pockets to help keep the campus open. He said they dont have enough in the budget. (Students Edjucation-$0 , 14 Wins-Priceless!!!!)
Huked On Foniks Wurks Fer ME!!!!
by PanamaCityBeach-NOLE on Jul 4, 2009 12:33 AM EDT reply actions
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