Stud 2010 defensive back Lamarcus Joyner will be in Tallahassee this weekend! He'll leave Miami this afternoon and stay for the weekend, and will also return for Seminole Showtime! If you see Lamarcus or his mentor Jon, make sure to give them a great Seminole welcome!
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YES!
I know the commit is coming any day now
Hold your horses.
This is far from over, imo. They’re also visiting Alabama.
Just wants to beat the Gators
I don't think he has any real interest in Alabama
I still believe he’s a strong FSU lean and is ready to commit soon.
Here is a response from Genron jsut two days ago on a Youtube video on LJ.... this is good news to me!
“I hate FSU? Well I don’t. I have repeatly said that my mind changed about them after the visit a couple of months ago. It has. I have seen them in person and had a 4 hour meeting with them all. It was serious and I trust they will turn things around. I tell LJ everyday that he cannot make a bad choice. His top 5 are some awesome schools with great teams. You telling me he can make a bad choice with FSU, OSU, UGA, UF, Bama?”
by noles 4 life u dig? on Jul 10, 2009 8:36 AM EDT reply actions
Hijacking the topic a little.
I often wonder when I read the posts on here how much the person writing it really knows about the program. Is he an insider, one of the coaches, a rabid fan or perhaps a homeless man that came to the library to poop and got on a computer.
I am asking, without giving names or titles or such, that you just tell how much information you are really privy to or are you just blowing smoke.
Remember, you don’t to be in the program to have good info (i.e. student who is good friends with player or recruit)
I"ll go first -Rabid fan with no insider information, an astute understanding of football but learning more everyday. My observations are just that, and any guesses on things inside the program are just that. So there you have it. Hopefully this can put some context on any of my posts you read and I will be sure to update everyone with any changes that may give me more info….like perhaps becoming the next president of FSU….lol
Can't do any worse than the last two presidents...
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.
Elayne Boosler
I really think it varies.
I think I have a pretty good understanding of football, and information wise, it comes from a lot of different places- some with and some without agendas.
i thougt he was talking about the “he will commit these weekend” type comments….the wishful thinking of those with nothing more than a gut feeling. don’t think it was directed at the fanpost topic
by jasonole59 on Jul 10, 2009 11:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm about the same level as you
Been a fan all my life and finally immersing myself fully into the message board portion of things. Usually summer after summer I just go into hibernation waiting on football season so that I don’t go crazy, but this is somewhat of a pacifier lol
Tomahawk Nation
Is my pacifier too…I’m almost to the point where I can’t live without it.
Just a squirrel trying to find a nut :)
by SWFLNole. on Jul 10, 2009 2:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
you might want to try craigslist for that….. j/k
by noles 4 life u dig? on Jul 10, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
He is
not blowing smoke. I told him late last night to post it… I’m the insider’s inside :)
I haven't been around here a long time
but you seem to know LJ personally…is that correct?
Strozier Library
Genron,
Make sure you guys take a tour of strozier libray and landis green so Lamarcus gets a good look at some of the “assets” FSU has to offer…. You know, lots of books and computers, big outdoor cough coed area dually suited for studying and/or sunbathing…
He might find some reasons in addition to football to give FSU a few looks.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
'I'm not a Role Model" - Charles Barkley
Lived in Landis for two years
and Landis green was a great place to play ultimate frisbee, football, and see the girls tanning. IMO, the sand volleyball court is on the wrong side of the building….
I didn’t want to leave Landis, but I figured that once I was at the Engineering sShool more often than not, it didn’t make sense to stay there. Makes me sad thinking about it.
Landis Green
One of th things I missed when I moved permanently to the E-school too. When did you go??
One night we all went to Landis Green and played soccer when the sprinklers were going off…awesome stuff.
He should visit the first or second week of Fall term
All of those ladies rushing for sororities, standing in line outside the houses…
I love FSU.
by basbalstr101 on Jul 10, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
lol..
Maybe, might check that out tomorrow, I did plan on leaving right now but I still got to have a heart to heart with Jimbo and Bowden. I’ve talked to some other coaches as well. It’s going great. I ton of lies have been told and are being told about this program.
Probably the usual suspects
I’m just glad Genron and LJ get so see for themselves. Jimbo is definitely a quality guy, good down home type dude.
I'd still like to see someone call them out
LJ is lucky to have someone like Genron in his life. I expect it from most who are actively recruiting our top targets. Some schools to name a few, UF, Clemson, USCe, prob Bama, and definitely Lame Kiffin at UT. There are some HC’s that I would exclude from the list but would expect it from other staff members. I can’t see Randy Shannon/Mark Richt targeting our program but I wouldn’t put it past some of the coaches on their staff.
I'd lose respect for Richt
If he pulled some stunt, in regards to anything related to FSU. Who knows, there could be a slim chance that Urban might bolt for another HC gig after this season.
Gainesville would riot
If he left for ND. (they’ll riot if he leaves for anywhere at all)
Ha! You don't like Knoxville?
Its not so bad…and the drive over to see FSU and Clemson’s only about 3hrs but with that said….I’d much rather be watching those games in Tally!
time to hang out on campus all day
by jasonole59 on Jul 10, 2009 11:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
When I tried that a couple of years ago.
someone called the FSUPD, they told me I was creepy, they told me to get off campus, and that they did not want me or my kind around.
I was confused and upset.
But then I realized that maybe walking around campus in the summer wearing a long overcoat with nothing underneath could have been considered kinda creepy.
Lesson learned.
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em
Did you ever find your lost puppy, Frank?
When you asked 275 girls to help look, I figure you’d gather enough resources to mount a successful search. Offering free candy showed that you really loved your puppy and would do anything to find him.
You should see some of the strange looks they gave me when I told them the had to reach into my pockets to get the candy themselves.
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em
I should've asked genron for a ride. I live right on the outskirts of STA.
God I wish I was on campus right now. Home is so boring!
Just wants to beat the Gators
Me
I am the homeless guy posting from the library throwing darts in the dark. I did sleep in the bushes outside a Holiday Inn last night though.
LJ
Should I buy into the hype b/c I hear nothing but great things about this guy? Can I get a quick scouting report, if there’s not already one on this site? Any player comparisons would be nice as well.
Preciate it in advance.
by BigWorm on Jul 10, 2009 5:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I've heard comparisons of Bob Sanders
People say they’re concerned about his height, but he hits like a ton of bricks . . . seriously. Here’s the ESPN Evaluation:
What Joyner lacks in size he makes up for in excellent speed and acceleration. A talented receiver and outstanding overall athlete, but we feel his future lies on defense at cornerback. Needs some polish in his technique but has all the coveted traits you look for accept ideal height. Does have long arms and wingspan to help mask shorter frame. Displays great range and makeup speed. His recovery burst and breaking quickness may be unparalleled in this class. Reads the play quickly and covers a ton of ground in a hurry. Closes hard and shows deceptive explosiveness on contact. Delivers a great pop and runs through all his tackles. Tight, quick twitched body allows him to play much bigger His run support skills, nose for the football and overall physicality really surprise you for his size. Gets over trash quickly and looks comfortable playing near the line of scrimmage. Really feisty and difficult to seal off on the perimeter. Transitions quickly and takes direct angles to the ball. Definitely a guy who will be able to set the edge and flourish in a “hard” cover 2 scheme at the next level despite his diminutive size. Pedal and coverage technique will need some refinement but he has the loose hips and foot-quickness to mirror and play off-man and the physicality to press despite lacking long arms and great size. But we still feel he is better playing the ball in front of him and may be best suited in underneath zone schemes where he can get more involved than locked up on an island. Safety is not out of question in the right scheme and he should immediately challenge for early playing time as a nickel corner. Could get a look on offense in the slot with his great foot-speed and quickness needed to create mismatches in the slot. Overall, Joyner is an exciting athlete and potentially a future difference maker on defense. A guy who is consistently around the football making plays.
Man you posted this as I was writing that up.
guess I could have surfed over to ESPN, Bob Sanders is similar in body style but I believe LJ will be much better in coverage, but not as great a tackler overall.
Copy and paste baby, copy and paste lol
I like your synopsis though, very nice. My dream for the future = QB’s having to decide whether to throw at LJ or Greg Reid . . . mmmmm :-)
Imagine a secondary with LJ, Reid, Downs, and Harley 2-3 years from now...
by basbalstr101 on Jul 10, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I realize Downs is a long shot
but I can wish, can’t I??
by basbalstr101 on Jul 10, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Either way we're in good shape
Reid, Joyner, Noel, Alexander, Parks, Moody, Harley, Demps, Abrams, Bright. Our DB’s are destined to be sick if Joyner commits. And we’re still in the running for Mitchell and possibly Payne. Contenders in 2010.
I'd love to land two of the three Byrnes kids
by basbalstr101 on Jul 10, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Is SS goes well
I think we really sway Lattimore in a big way, I want that kid bad. He’s already 6’1 214. He’s gonna be a beast
Very true
And that probably won’t be too difficult. The least we can do is manage a better rushing attack.
Opening game of the Season- NC State vs.South Carolina
The Gamecocks open the football season on Thursday night September 3, 2009 against NCState.The Cocks will go down against Russell Wilson and the Wolfpack four nights before the Labor Day Massacre of the Noles over the Canes. What a way to start a season with an ACC spankage of an SEC opponent!
I agree, that's why I listed him last
Bright will probably be a hard worker and serviceable at the position. Xavier Rhodes is coming along very nicely as well, he’ll redhshirt this year so he can learn the position but they say he has all the tools. Great size as well.
The secondary just got me hyped
and that’s without considering the vicious D-Line we’re stock piling.
Excellent size for the position
Hips are in question, word is they may be a little stiff. If he can learn the position he has the speed and instincts. Plus having a taller corner out there for the redzone, and Greg Carr type receivers is an advantage as well.
Agreed
I’m interested in what Smith and Haulstead will do, word is that Haulstead is the one likely to have an early impact but I think both will be successful. I love Jimbo and Coley’s recruiting, these last couple years have been a nice change of pace.
And sub-par competition
But I trust Stroud’s strength and conditioning, that man works miracles.
He's a fighter
Remember that hold that Jamie Robinson had on the starting FS position? Apparently Parks is coming on strong and it isn’t do to Robinson letting up. I think at the very least he gets substantial time this season.
Yeah, I try. ESPN is always windier than me; but you can get a good feel without too much I think
I look forward to that day as well.
Sure
He is 5’8’’ 165lb defensive back prospect. He makes up for any lack of height with a great wingspan and excellent accelleration. Extremely explosive fast twitch athlete which allows him to deliver great tackles, and provides elite recovery speed. He has great hips and turns and runs in coverage very well, but needs some coaching on technique. I personally think that his best quality is how physical he is in coverage; because of this he is able to play very close to the line of scrimmage when lined up opposite a receiver. He plays safety in high school and some see him there in college, however I think he is destined to be a #1 CB on the next level.
Check out the recruiting big board
http://www.tomahawknation.com/section/2010-recruiting-big-board
FSUncensored gives a nice scouting report.
by basbalstr101 on Jul 10, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Berry is bigger than LJ
I’m not a big fan of comparisons, but a mix of Berry and Nelson makes sense to me
Based off playing styles.
Instincts, explosion, acceleration to the ball/through the ball carrier, and both are big hitters.
Everyone says that if LJ commits, the floodgates open
Who most likely follows LJ if he commits to FSU?
Maybe Christian(s)
both Green and Jones? Its partially just wishful thinking but also realistic and in the realm of possibilities
Sit back and daydream for a second....
Think about having LJ and Greg Reid in the Definsive backfield, Nigel B at LB and Mr McDaniels on the D-Line…. Just those 4 will make you have a Sweet Dream. Man i gotta go chill cause i done got myself excited….
Huked On Foniks Wurks Fer ME!!!!
by PanamaCityBeach-NOLE on Jul 10, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions
SaaaWEET....
I cant wait til Sept. 7th. I Bleed Garnett and Gold. I’ll cut myself and show you….. But seriously, yea 2011 i really think FSU will be a household name again. Well for the RIGHT reasons. Tell you what tho, i have been prayin HARD for our boys to stay Healthy. I do not pray for wins because i just dont believe in askin God for that. But i DO NOT like to see ANYONE get hurt. Well after the Gator fans cheered when Preston went down i must admit i did get a little loud when pussy… i mean percy went down.
Huked On Foniks Wurks Fer ME!!!!
by PanamaCityBeach-NOLE on Jul 10, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
My blood is kind of a garnet like color, and when I'm dehydrated....
I’ve been known to root for injuries as long as they only miss my team’s games, I’m that guy.
Cough Cough Tebow Cough Cough.....
HaHa, Yea but if we were to beat the gators and Tebow was hurt then the Gator fans would have ammo to complain. Kinda like i DO NOT reconize thier 1st National Championship. Even Meyer said when talkin bout maybe Texas and OU playin for NC that its not fair to have to play your biggest rival again for a NC….. So therefore. FSU-2 and UF-2….
Huked On Foniks Wurks Fer ME!!!!
by PanamaCityBeach-NOLE on Jul 10, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm I don't share that line of thinking
just think we need to get our ish straight so we can catch up.
it’ll be funny when we get reports of Percy pulling some of his clubhouse antics and his teammates beating the absolute crap out of him.
I live in the Redneck Riviera...
If you had to put up with what i do u would think that way too. Not to mention when i was 14yrs old and went to the 1997 FSU-UF game in G-Ville they ripped my FSU clothes off me and wrapped me in a UGLY A$$ Orange and Blue flag. I’m tellin you i H8 that school from the SouthEast
Huked On Foniks Wurks Fer ME!!!!
by PanamaCityBeach-NOLE on Jul 10, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Lamarcus is staying the entire week up until and through Showtime
He must’ve had a good time at Ernie Sims party last night lol
Even more interesting
Darious Cummings is hanging out with him, he’s a great character kid and dedicated to making this one of the top classes in the nation. Maybe he and Lamarcus will be figuring out a gameplan to snag some big fish during showtime (forgive me for my speculation but I like the way this is looking personally). One week from now names like:
De’Joshua Johnson
Merrill Noel
Lamarcus Joyner
Darrious Cummings
Corey Miller
Brandon Willis
Elliot Porter
Damien Jacobs (also staying the entire week)
Marcus Lattimore
Chris Dunkley
Keion Payne
Christian Green
Christian Jones
Jeff Luc
will all be on campus (yes I know I left some out), but the reason it has me so excited is that more of these kids are FSU commits or STRONG leans than not. The rest are at least considering FSU. If things go well we could seriously clean up.
Kenny Shaw
Can’t forget Kenny Shaw, I like that kid lol
I thought Lattimore siad he'd be at Rutgers this w/e...
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.
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He will, that was my mistake
The good news on Lattimore is that his visit will be for the Miami game so the atmosphere will be crazy. I also think we win that game, hopefully impressively :)
Yep, it’s nothing to freak out about for FSU fans. The whole reason he’s going this weekend is because he may not be able to make it back up for Showtime.
I'm pretty sure he said he'd be staying all week . . .
Which means he wouldn’t have to make it back up
Leaving
on Wed and be back on Sat. unless he doesn’t mind washing his clothes
Seminole Showtime....
Is it open to the public? I might go stay with my uncle that weekend and come check it out. Never had the pleasure of seein some recruits in action
Huked On Foniks Wurks Fer ME!!!!
by PanamaCityBeach-NOLE on Jul 11, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions
Does anyone know what time everything starts?
Everytime I ask this question its widely ignored lmao
We'll probably find out this week
I’d like to know myself cuz I may be driving up that day from Orlando
I guess it's not organized completely yet. Which is really dumb on FSU.
Just wants to beat the Gators
Ten 4
Sounds good. As long as we dont get any work in that has to be done over the weekend im gonna try and make plans to show up.
Huked On Foniks Wurks Fer ME!!!!
by PanamaCityBeach-NOLE on Jul 11, 2009 7:55 PM EDT reply actions
Bright keeping the pipelines open?
It is my understanding he is about 6-2.5, 190 pounds now. As you can see from Seminole.com below he was an all state selection. Now what that means is he was the best safety in the state.
He already runs in the 4.4 range. That is faster than Roger what’s his name already and he is now about the same size. 92 tackles? Likes to hit? I wouldn’t casually write the boy off. He may not become another John Lynch but then again he might.
Take note of the 3.4 GPA as it might mean he will actually know how to be in position on the plays he is supposed to cover. After suffering through William’s career I am willing to watch anybody take a crack at it. You know chase the guy who actually has the ball.
“Duncan, SC (Byrnes)
RANKINGS: Ranked the 39th-best safety by Rivals and the 26th-best player in the state of South Carolina… Prep Star All-Southeast selection.
Bio: A three-star prospect according to Rivals and Scout.com who comes from one of the nation’s top high school programs…named an AP All-State selection as a senior…registered 92 tackles and three picks in 2008…Byrnes won three straight state championships and was ranked No. 1 in the USA Today Super 25 to start the 2008 season…as a senior his Rebel squad went 14-1 and finished the year ranked eighth in the nation by MaxPreps and ninth according to USA Today…recorded over 100 tackles as a junior on top of four TFL, six PBU and four interceptions…according to ESPN Bright `thrives on contact’ and he is a `hard hitter’…recorded five tackles in the Shrine Bowl of the Carolinas…clocked at 4.47 in the 40…posted a high school GPA of 3.4…picked Florida State over offers from Texas A&M and Stanford.”
Its not a knock on Bright as an individual
But honestly the kids in front of him at both Safety spots have even more impressive resumes. Both Harley and Demps were ranked ahead of him at Safety in the 2009 class alone. Then he has both Moody and Parks that graded ahead of him (also have the edge in age and experience) according to ESPN, Rivals and Scout. Then you have Abrams coming in 2010 who will also be graded ahead of him, most likely a 4 star. Like I said its not a personal attack, but facts or facts, you’re not gonna throw the kid on the field when there are at least 5 other players ahead of him. He’ll be a solid and serviceable player but his real impact will come on special teams (kick off coverage) . . . and keeping the pipeline open lmao. But again anything can happen, he could go into beast mode and prove to be a better player than everyone we’ve recruited. In which case i’ll be ready to eat some humble pie. Either way, i’m not worried about the Safety position in years to come.
Not to mention Willie Downs could come back to us
fingers crossed
No offense, but
6’2’’ is an absolute JOKE!
4.4 is way way more ridiculous.
I won’t comment on academics at all, because it wouldnt be fair.
Justin kept the pipeline open. I know rivals wants you to believe otherwise but retards run rivals.
Lol I was trying to be nice by shedding the light
on how talented the guys in front of him are, but yeah that about sums it up hahaha. The 4.4 definitely made me raise an eyebrow. I was under the impression that he was in the 4.6 range. I just know i’ll be absolutely floored if he moves into some serious playing time. I think he’s a good guy to have on the team and in the locker room, I expect he’ll work hard in practice and the weight room and in turn it’ll put pressure on those ahead of him to give their all. He’s from a powerhouse high school program which means he’s probably very disciplined and coach able, but unfortunately for him none of that is guaranteed to get him on the field.
Nobody who has seen him out there has been impressed. He's total special teams filler.
Nice kid though. Probably won’t get in trouble much.
Sipping morning coffee
I haven’t measured the guy but scout lists him here as 6.2.5. so all I can go by is what I read. They also say legit 4.5 which I suppose is close to the 4.4.7 mentioned at Seminole.com. Now if you have timed him I will defer to you.
We do have a lot of safeties and that is good but bear in mind Roger Williams ran a 4.58. So we have to be taking a step in the right direction here. Roger was a an excellent tackler and that is about where the superlatives leave off.
Nowhere did I say he was a better prospect than Terrance Parks, Harley or any of the other safeties. Some of you might be reading your own preconceived notions into the equation. The word I read on Harley is he is not exactly a tackling machine though.
The point is you don’t know what the guy will look like after a red shirt year. I have heard the same type summations from the negative nellies when it came to McMahon, Faircloth, Blake Snider, Secord, Nick Bonasorte and Brian Stork who it seems is already serving crow. They say he looks pretty good.
I heard the same thing last year from people who say Stork will never play a down other than special teams. We see how that one pans out also.
As for thoughts on BB that needs no elaboration you check past posts for that one.
I understand why you might have felt attacked
But like I said this wasn’t an attack on Bright, and certainly not on you. But you have you have to admit that the kid probably has one of the toughest battles of anyone on the team in terms of people ahead of him on the depth chart. You’re right, we don’t know what he’ll look like after a redshirt season. But we DO know that the freshman and sophomores ahead of him have the edge in talent today (I count 4 that are here now and 1, with the possibility of another being recruited coming next year). Not only do they have the edge in talent today, but they’ll be gaining serious experience on the field. Its a bleak outlook at best because these talent gaps aren’t small. But like its been said he’s a good kid and maybe he has the stuff to prove us wrong. Until then . . . I’m incredibly confident that we won’t have to deal with marginal talents like Roger Williams in our secondary for the next 4 to 5 years. Roger Williams was the result of poor and lazy recruiting efforts which seem to be a thing of the past right now.
Where is the freshman info on seminoles.com though?
I finally found it
http://www.seminoles.com/sports/m-footbl/2009_signingday.html#Bright
Yeah I agree with what you said he is probably our lowest rated safety but still not a guaranteed bust. There have been walk ons who became all americans.
Very true
Its an uphill battle for him, but I always look at this way: If a kid is able to pass other capable players on the depth chart then i’m happy to see him on the field. The best players will play and if he works his butt off he could prove me wrong.
I am not very high on Bright either but
I don’t think it is fair to call him a bust already. Personally, I hope he proves us all wrong and becomes a great safety here.
Again
I don’t think anyone is calling him so much a bust as we’re all acknowledging how much better the other safeties are.
Damien Jacobs
Is in town for the week as well. These kids could really come together to make our best class in a long time. I’ve always got high hopes but the number 1 class is a real possibility if these guys commit.
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