Off-Season Discussion Thread #5 (Ask short questions here)
by Bud Elliott on Jul 10, 2009 12:52 PM EDT
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Per tharinger, Christian Jones says his top 3 that are “starting to stand out” are UF, OU, and Southern Cal. I know it’s a long time before he’ll decide, (he says it’ll be January), but this isn’t something I like to hear from a guy we so desperately need.
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We’re not in Christian Jones top 3…that’s f’n great. WTF? Really? After seeing Christian Green name UF as his top school. I’m going to need blood pressure rx soon…
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.
Elayne Boosler
Let's clear some stuff up
Green did not name UF his leader. He isn’t even going to FNL.
Jones is playing the game. I doubt he makes it to the season without making commitment to FSU. He talks about FSU in that article.
Both are coming up for Showtime. Both will be Noles.
Those are not his Top 3
They are the Top 3 that are “starting to stand out”.
FSU has always stood out and is the firm leader.
Jones
said a few weeks back that he’d be likely to commit if/when Joyner commits. I just wish they’d get it over with and pull the trigger so they could work on some of the other big names in the class like Luc and Lattimore during Showtime and beyond.
Right, and if we somehow land Nigel Terrell (not happening)
We could start a game at LB with 3 Nigels.
The McDL backed up by Nigel cubed....
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.
Elayne Boosler
haha
tri-gel sounds more like a shaving product from 2015
by NorthernHaze on Jul 10, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Do we have a link for the pos. roster for next year from the school
or do we just have the one we kinda think is going to be.
Also any idea when College Football live is going to have there Fl show for the 50 State tour.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
I don't know when that damn show is coming on
College Football Live always pisses me off because they’re scheduling is so RANDOM. Then they get pushed off the air on days that really matter (to me anyways). When they were visiting each conference, the day they were supposed to do the ACC was the same day the Manny Ramirez steroids drama broke out. ESPN canceled the show to talk about that garbage. Now with this 50 states thing they’re extremely random and all over the map (literally) as far as scheduling goes. Sorry, I had to vent
They show Florida
August 6-7th, we’re the last stop on the tour.
Huked On Foniks Wurks Fer ME!!!!
by PanamaCityBeach-NOLE on Jul 17, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Bobby Bowden got the shingles
when did this happen and how is he doing. He’s still got numbness in the left side of his face. thats all I got form others news outlet.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Yeah knew he was being treated in Alabama for it a few weeks ago
he is still in bad pain I believe, but recovering. Bud may know more
He's doing better, heard they won't know if he will regain total facial feeling.
In my prayers.
by Bud Elliott on Jul 10, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Hate to be cold
Wow, I feel for him. But knowing how women are this may cause Ann to put pressure on him to retire.
by osceolafan850 on Jul 11, 2009 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Any word on how Christian Greens visit week this week?
Defense is not the problem, but will it be this year?
He didn't participate but people saw him there.
He’s a very quiet kid and doesn’t ever give anything in interviews. Still seems really tight with Dawsey and I expect him to be a ’Nole.
Question about some of out Top Prospects....
Hey FSUncensored, Good Mornin, Just wondering do you know about any off field probs some of our Top Recruits have? They all seem to be really standup guys with alot of character. I know FSU is steering away from trouble kids but with our recruiting the past few years i just wanted to make sure. I couldnt find anything online but if they minors its hard to get. Thanks and Go NOLES!!!!
Huked On Foniks Wurks Fer ME!!!!
by PanamaCityBeach-NOLE on Jul 12, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey Bud....
Aren’t yall making sum TN Shirts? Id’e like to get one and wear it to the Miami game. If so lemme know and id’e like to get one with my screen name on it, that way if ya see me you will kno who i am.
Huked On Foniks Wurks Fer ME!!!!
by PanamaCityBeach-NOLE on Jul 12, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, shirts are far along in the development process.
I’m not sure we can do screennames, as the cost might be prohibitive.
Thats Cool....
I can get the shirt and take it to a “Head Shop” here in panama city and have them add my screen name to it.
Huked On Foniks Wurks Fer ME!!!!
by PanamaCityBeach-NOLE on Jul 12, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
HaHa!!!
Yea i’ll make it fit. I might just put PCB-NOLE instead of spellin it all out
Huked On Foniks Wurks Fer ME!!!!
by PanamaCityBeach-NOLE on Jul 13, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I haven't heard much about recruiting for basketball
but according to ESPN, our 2010 class ranks as 15th in the nation. Are we going after any other guys, or are we done with the two recruits we have?
Here is something to get you by until you get more info.
Recruiting should be a bit easier for FSU basketball
http://nolesports.tallahassee.com/article/20090707/FSU05/907070322
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em
And this kid down here, Brandon Knight, would look great in garnet and gold.
Pine Crest’s Brandon Knight finalist for Gatorade award
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/high-schools/story/1135159.html
but he is already projected
Website projects Brandon Knight to be among top picks in 2011 draft
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/broward/sfl-knight-boynton-nba-draft-s070709,0,2611058.story
Can you believe that, projected 3rd draft pick in 2011? Projected higher than FU’s Kenny Boynton. Regardless, let’s just hope Boynton goes pro ASAP.
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em
Sorry...been a little off the beaten path recently. Have been planning to put together a piece about this year's recruiting class.
Not a lot to add as we only have three recruits coming in.
There are a ton of big name prospects for the 2010 class, like Brandon Knight. It’s nice that he would stay in state, but highly unlikely that he will stay.
www.Tomahawknation.com
Should FSU take Haggins as a safety?
We have a very good shot at Karlos Williams in 2011, and with the young depth we have at safety now, should we use a scholly on Haggins this year or use it for either DL, LB, CB?
Haha, just something I was thinking about with SS coming up.
Wasn’t sure if he was one who might pull the trigger.
I haven’t heard much about him from the recruiting services, so I was hoping I could gather insight from TN members.
by basbalstr101 on Jul 13, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
He might pull the trigger
I assume they would take him as an ATH given the bloodlines. I think the only position he can play is Safety, and we don’t need another safety. We already have one, and LJ may play there. Not to mention it isn’t a priority position this cycle.
Can we take him at WR? We look good for CG and Shaw, already have DJJ.
Personally I think he screws up our class, and I hope he still has dreams of playing QB somewhere.
I like that he's from Lakeland High.
He seems like a last resort, though. He’s being looked at mainly because of his connections.
Just wants to beat the Gators
Freshmen Jersey Numbers and Number Changes
Where can I find that info. (Want to make sure my NCAA 2010 roster is accurate)
3- Justin Bright
5- Greg Reid
6- Gerald Demps
16- Will Secord
18- Dustin Hopkins
19- Josh Gehres
23- Chris Thompson
24- Lonnie Pryor
27- Xavier Rhodes
30- Jajuan Harley
40- C.J. Mizell
49- Brandon Jenkins
52- Bryan Stork
54- Aubrey Phillips
58- Dan Hicks
59- Henry Orelus
61- Blake Snider
74- John Prior
82- Willie Haulstead
84- Rodney Smith
97- Demonte McAllister
99- Jacobbi McDaniel
Not sure on number changes. Hmm.
Thanks.
I am not even sure if players changed numbers but there are usually a couple that do. I know E.J. Manuel is 3 too right??
ok I got 2 for you.
1) I see we open camp on Aug 7. I saw some SEC teams start on the 5th but no later that the 10th. Does that make a dif or is it based when the first game is. Why wouldnt a team start on the first day they could to get the most time in before the season starts.
2) Are there any new things we can expect from the Off. like new formations or key plays like last years bubble screens? I know the anwser is more likely we wont know tell miami. maybe someone might have an idea.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
I want to see a puntrooskie (sp?) again.
" And He drank the world's sin so He could carry you in, and give you life"
Every time I look back at that play...
….I’m more amazed that we pulled a fake punt from OUR OWN 20 YARD LINE in a tie game with under 3 minutes to play. Does banana pudding cause big brass balls to shrink over time?
I second this.
I’ve seen imaginary studies proving it.
That and shingles probably do not help.
Now we just have to watch out for the gout.
" And He drank the world's sin so He could carry you in, and give you life"
Freshman leaving the team?
Aubrey Phillips??
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
'I'm not a Role Model" - Charles Barkley
Lol, sorry, friend told me about it
Guess I should read the Tomahawks first :)
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
'I'm not a Role Model" - Charles Barkley
James Louis committed to UF
And this was Luke’s comment regarding Dunkley
“The next question will be about Pahokee wide receiver Chris Dunkley’s reaction to this. I’ve been talking to Dunkley about this eminent commitment for much of the afternoon.
He does not seem to have much of a problem with it, and is well aware of the fact the Gators want to bring in at least 4, if not 5, wide receivers in this class. The two, Louis and Dunkley, had a good time hanging out at Georgia’s Camp a few weeks back according to Dunkley.
After talking to Dunkley, I really don’t expect him to have a decision at Friday Night Lights like many have theorized. Also after talking flight times for his return flight from Nike’s National 7-on-7 in Oregon, if the times he told me were accurate, I don’t think he will be able to attend Seminole Showtime. "
Its been known for quite some time that Dunk will be a gator.
We are wasting our time.
Defense is not the problem, but will it be this year?
#19
If that is Josh Geyres pushing that sled wearing that number in the Democrat pictures he looks like an offensive lineman.
Interesting
I remember when FSU had their pick of the litter, so to speak, similar to UF now. However I don’t recall us ever offering a guy and then resending the offer like UF seems to be doing now. I never heard of us playing games like that. I could be wrong.
Defense is not the problem, but will it be this year?
It could have happened with FSU also,
because the recruiting coverage in the early to mid 90’s was nothing like it is today.
Defense is not the problem, but will it be this year?
CB Cliff Coleman, CB Keion Payne, just to start.
WR Josh Reese, DE Corey Crawford, DT Richard Ash, S Travis Bell, I’ll think of some more.
I don’t think most of the players I listed can commit CURRENTLY.
So this has been going on for years
Just with more recruiting coverage nowadays you hear of it more often?
Defense is not the problem, but will it be this year?
Every year. Add Fred Pickett before he picked WVU.
If Tahj Kimble or Jeremiah George earned one, it wouldn’t be directly commitable.
They are back up plans, we always do it.
Supposedly Reese was told by Coley his was commitable.
It's done by every major school.
If a kid has an FSU “offer”, might help him get an offer from a slightly lesser school. Also makes his HS program look good.
or more shotgun or Ace slot
The more WR we get on the field the less in the box then when they stack it like Micky would beat them with the pass. We dont have to go long all day, but just chip away. Last year other teams thought FSU is a pass team but thats not true. FSU used the pass to open up the run. This year teams are going to think we are a running team as they should but we can still be a passing team. If Ponder is improving as much as some say (with his play calling and pre-snap reads) then the checking up to the passes and others might be very efective.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Question about recruiting
Let’s say we have 25 free scholarships for an upcoming recruiting class (60 players). Then decide to cut 25 scholarship players from the team (35 players). Could we sign 50 players? Or do we sign 25 max each year until we fill up back to 85?
Just wants to beat the Gators
You can only technically sign 25 in a class
You can backdate certain prospects to a year where you did not take 25. You will probably see this with the TCC kids this year. Obviously this is hypothetical because it would be a horrible depth chart idea, but that’s how it rolls.
Right. Obviously it's a horrible depth chart idea. ;)
So you could place 5 greyshirts (I don’t know the limits on greyshirts) and sign 30? Or sign 35 have 5 grey shirts and 5 placed in JUCO? I know the whole Ole Miss situation, so I was curious.
Just wants to beat the Gators
If a kid does not qualify he does not (currently) count toward the 25
I believe that is true, without looking up the rule. You can actually backdate kids without greyshirting, which is what we will do with the TCC kids. There is limitations, I don’t have them handy.
Greyshirting is actually kinda of future-dating kids if that makes sense, as opposed to backdating to when a class was short. It doesn’t count on your class until the next year either. I don’t know of a limit.
The oversigning rules are being looked at (largely because of what you said with Ole Miss).
I’ve had a few beers, and did not look any of this up. So FSUsom will no doubt clean up my sloppy answers.
anyone know of the 6'8 300lb O-lineman from minnesota
heard on the radio he has an offer from us and every other big school in the nation. any idea about this guy
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Seantrel Henderson OT 6-7 295 Cretin-Derham Hall H.S. (MN)
wow this guys a beast. If we could pull him he could play both football and B-ball. I dont think we can get this guy. he has 50 offers for school. would be nic e though.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
I thought ND was in the mix as well
I think he pulls a slight shocker and stay in state with the Gophers.
ESPN has it as OSU, OU, UF, then us
dont know what that means though. trying to go to rivles to see if they say anythink dif.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
He has stated some of these things, but most think he is playing games
He has shown real interest in :
Minnesota
USC
ND-out of the mix now
Michigan
Iowa
I wouldn’t bet against Minnesota or USC though.
Friday Night Lites Christian Lemay
Christian Lemay has committed to attend Seminole Showtime but not UF Friday Night Lites? Any meaning to that?
Marvin Ford Dr. Phillips RB Links
http://athletevault.com/Videos/MarvinFordAV.html http://athletevault.com/Videos/MarvinFord2AV.html
I know we have the size matters post but
Is there any idea about the size of the teams off and Def lines for the up coming year. I would like to see where we have improved in this area.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Well I found out when College Football Live is doing there Fl Day.
Aug 6 & 7. cant beleave it took me this long to find it. You can vote for best FSU player, Best Fl team , and best coach all time. Cant wait tell this.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
vince williams
is his injury serious? seems like he’s been out for a while and not getting better.
CTC special?
on how to turn an elite, deep LB corps into a mediocre group of undersized safeties playing LB?
I know how we're donge over how a tougher strength of schedule doesn't help...
But we should consider adding the Gamecocks to our schedule. That’s be a great recruiting tool for schools like Byrnes. Plus, I love it when we beat Spurrier…
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.
Elayne Boosler
donge=gone
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.
Elayne Boosler
beating the gamecocks dont mean much in SC
Beating Clemson is better for the most part. USC is stuck in a rock and a hard place with so many schools around them. They cant get any good players out of SC. Thats why they go to GA and FL to get most of there players.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Coley's Twitter had 404 on it in the last tweet...
The only person on our board from 404 is Stripling, but I heard he already commited to UGA.
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.
Elayne Boosler
Christian Green
Misses SS only to show up in Gainesville today? Thoughts?
Defense is not the problem, but will it be this year?
Was he ever really a 'Nole lock
Or just assumed because of his family connection?
Defense is not the problem, but will it be this year?
Ok but is it mere flirting? Is he getting their hopes up?
Because he’s torturing us
He is torturing us.
Maybe when he goes to Hogtown, he’ll realize what he’s always wanted – FSU.
Just wants to beat the Gators
I'm waiting
on him AND Christian Jones. Although seeing Jones on the field at Showtime laughing and joking with Miller, Cummings and Willis couldn’t have possibly been a bad sign :)
Within 10 days of my return to South Florida.
The goal is to ship them Mid-August and no later than 2 weekends prior to Labor Day if everything goes according to plan (Knocking on rich mahogany).
Travis Dickson top 5
He has us in his top 5 along with Ole Miss, Lsu, Miss. State, and Auburn. Are we recruiting him very hard? Also, did he attend showtime?
Speaking of SEC players
Nigel Terrel has us in his top 2 now . . . thoughts? I mean if we bag Terrell, Christian Jones, Jeff Luc (fingers crossed), maybe Holmes Onwukaife and HOPEFULLY Telvin Smith comes back around and commits to FSU we could be solving depth problems at LB immediately. Not to mention most people believe Mizell will be fine to enroll in January
If he wants to come we will take him immediately.
We WOULD take 5 backers if they wanted to come.
by Bud Elliott on Jul 21, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't understand this, unless he specifically says he wants to play in the SEC.
I think FSU and miami are the type of programs that can overcome the SEC talk…maybe i’m wrong.
Who Nigel?
The thing is that Auburn and Alabama may not be able to take him, in which case we may be the lucky benefactors. He’s a great LB.
No, I see comments like "he will play in the SEC"...that's what I was talking about.
I think history shows that a program like FSU can get the same or better players that an SEC school can. If you are looking at percentages for Travis Dickson, 4 of his 5 are SEC schools, so I understand that the probablility is that he will play in the SEC, but I also feel that
FSU > Those 4 SEC schools
Even then.
A lot of these southern boys grew up watching Alabama play Auburn. Alabama play Tennessee. Tennessee play Florida. Florida play Georgia. They didn’t see Florida State play Boston College/VA Tech or play Wake Forest and really care. The ACC has a ton of catching up to do, and has to make some key rivalry games.
Just wants to beat the Gators
I think it will get back there when
FSU and Miami take there place back at the top. Its only a matter of time. Miami and FSU will out recruit people sooner or latter. USF and UCF dont have a conf to get the great recruits. The SEC is going to be big for a while but the ACC is closer for one reason than people think. Last year who was the best team. It was a week to week thing. I like it better this way kinda. In the SEC you have UF and then everone else. We all knew Bama was going to lose to UF. Same for UGA and LSU. Ol mis suprised us but would not have done it a second time.
Last how far behind UF are we. It seems like we are miles behind them but I think we are only about a 1/4 mile back. No most of our players couldnt start at UF but its also a dif. style we play. I think they fall big time next year after Superman leaves.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
?
Who’s Superman? Surely you’re not talking about Mr. 890.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
"But How will I know limits from lies, if I never try."
by geoffissiffoeg on Jul 21, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
But they do see FSU play UF, FSU play miami, FSU beat Bama
Labor Day could be a nice showing for us.
and I think LSU success is more recent (which matters for young recruits), but I’m talking about the program as a whole.
So FSUn are you going to try to do a Q&A with other teams
like last year. I thought that was kinda cool how you did that. Most of the other teams were cool about it and very respectfull. I thought it went very well. It was also kinda cool to go to other teams sites like Buckys 5th quarter. and seventh floor. and get in there talks about football.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Yes we will do one every week.
One of my favorite weekly pieces.
by Bud Elliott on Jul 21, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
What the hell?
http://www.goupstate.com/article/20090720/PSPORTS02/907209927/0/ARTICLES
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
I think we'll be
in his final five, if only because of his teammates…that’s not saying he ends up here, but he didn’t eliminate us.
Has anyone seen Georgia's recruiting class?
They may upset UF for the top recruiting class in the nation. Holy crap.
Just wants to beat the Gators
For anyone worried about our recruiting class's lack of numbers.
USC has 10, and 5 ESPN 150 Watch List players.
FSU has 8, and 6 ESPN 150 Watch List players.
I suppose it’s not as bad as I thought.
Just wants to beat the Gators
It's time to panic boys.
Lamarcus Joyner is going to be at FNL. OH NOES!!!
Just wants to beat the Gators
Recruiting for us no doubt.
I’d be surprised if they let him come lol
Do you think they
keep a close eye that are thought to be leans for another program to try and stop them from recruiting?
Rick Trickett's offensive lines
Has anyone researched or already done the legwork to see the improvment of Trickett’s WV line as far as pass protection?
I know they were definately a run first team, especially with Pat White, but I was just curious if the passing efficiency improved from when he took over to when he left?
I love the guy, i’m just curious.
Jeff Luc
Gridiron Studs says Jeff Luc names final four-UF, FSU,Georgia, LSU. What no Miami? Others said he was a lock for UM what gives? Go get um Coley!
I keep thinking about a booster pool.
Let me set this up by mentioning that our current president (U.S., not FSU) got a lot of campaign funding through online donations. You could donate $5, $50, etc. to his campaign.
What are the chances that something like this will come along for FSU football? Or has it and I don’t know about it?
This kind of thing would be great for people like me who aren’t rolling in money and aren’t able to make a steady commitment but want to give occasional one-time donations to the program. Do we have something like this?
Any comments are gratefully accepted.
Get this...
You know who’s recruiting for the Gators? Trey Burton’s mom on facebook. Hahahaha!!
Just wants to beat the Gators
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