Monday Morning Tomahawks- Monday, 07.13.09 Edition
Inside, you'll find:
- Mickey Andrew's Q&A session with the Greater Orlando Seminole Club as provided by Bill kid (Crowlnole)
- Another free photo gallery of Thursday's practice session and some notes on that session.
- A summary of the "Bridge Program"
- Notes from some observers of the Bobby Bowden Camp (including some major prospects)
- NEW @ 11 EST: Andrew Carter on the SEC Contract
- NEW @ 11 EST: Gobbler Country- Do Offensive Lines still matter?
Pictured: Darious Cummings and Lamarcus Joyner, as captured by an e-mailer. Cummings is a 6'2.5" 255lb defensive end/ tackle prospect, ESPNU 150 Watch List, Rivals 250 member, and of course, a 'Nole commit. Everyone knows about Lamarcus. Look how long LJ's arms are! He might only be 5'9", but with those wings and that vert, who cares.
Mickey Andrews at the Greater Orlando Seminole Club
First of all, apologies for taking so long to get this posted. Busy day and evening on Friday.
We had quite the contingent of celebrities joining us on Friday. Aside from Mickey, Corey Sawyer, Tom Block and Paul Kennedy all joined us for the evening. Corey is getting involved with the SCGO and will be putting together a program to have former players get involved with the Seminole community in the Orlando area. You all know my stance on former players, and if certain offices in Tallahassee aren't going to give the former players the respect and love they deserve and have earned, Orlando damn sure will.
Now onto Mickey. Corey laid back as a bit of a surprise and Tom brought him up as a surprise. They shared a couple old stories and one was especially interesting:
Corey was named an All American in 1992. He tied a school record in the NC State game with 3 picks, but got beat for a long TD late in the 4th quarter of that game. As we was taught to never walk off the field, he jogged off but Mickey was glaring at him the whole time. Corey went to the other end of the sideline but Mickey stalked him down, and let loose with "I don't know how you were named an All-American after a play like that" It was a great example of the excellence Mickey demanded from his players.
Gotta love mickey. I don't think anyone in the college game has a better scowl.
Georgia Tech was brought up by Mickey before we even got to the questions. He immediately owned the loss, and stated that he has been asked a lot about the fumble by Sims costing FSU the game. He simply said that the defense was to blame. Marcus never would have been put in the situation if Ga Tech didn't score so much.
He went on to talk a bit more about the game. He acknowledged that the defensive tackles were lined up too tight on the center, and it is something that was realized and will be corrected. He did want to make note of something though. While FSU gave up 288 yards rushing, he wanted to look at the comparison of some other strong defenses to put it in perspective. Ga Tech's performance against a few others:
Georgia: 409 rushing yards
Miami: 472 rushing yards
Virginia Tech: 278 rushing yards
North Carolina: 328 rushing yards
That not an excuse by Mickey to our poor performance, which he admitted, but wanted to show that other strong defenses got shredded by Ga Tech as well.
I'm glad Mickey is taking responsibility for this game, because his defense played awful. He neglected to mention that before GT's QB rolled his own ankle, they were rolling at almost eight yards per play!
For comparison purposes,
Opponent Yards/Play
@ 15 Virginia Tech 6.6
21 Florida St. 6.7 (7.8 before QB left game)
@ North Carolina 5.5
Miami (Fla.) 8.3
@ 13 Georgia 6.9
To be sure, Georgia Tech has an amazing offensive scheme led by one of the best coaches in the nation, but I think it's a little silly to rely on total yards there, when yards per play tells a much clearer story.
Onto a few questions. The first of which is that pink elephant of a spread offense:
What needs to be done to slow down the effectiveness of spread offenses?
Where could this question have come from? Maybe these two articles?
Size Matters on Defense, part 1
Size Matters on Defense, part 2
I would like to make note this was touched on by me in 2008 with Mickey, but this was a MUCH more thorough explanation than a year ago
We need to account for the QB. Too much the focus was on the running game and the receivers. From the threat of the option to QB's like tebow being a lead blocker for his running backs. He's realized the fear of the option needs to limit the blitz. The safeties need to be more involved with the running game and the action happening closer to the line of scrimmage. The drawback to this is that it puts a lot of pressure on the corners to lock up with the outside receivers.
Its a very crowd pleasing answer, and I don't want him to say anything else.
What can we change or do to beat an option offense much like the one Georgia Tech runs?
Mickey has had some people very familiar with this offense come in and talk with him about how to slow it down. The defensive staff has already reviewed the Yellow Jacket films and have set a new defensive game plan. The defense will be dedicating 10 minutes of practice time every day from day 1 to learn how to defend this defense, and practicing this game plan. It will give the the equivelent of three weeks of full prep and practice time for it by the time the game comes.
What are the challenges of coaching some of the young players today as opposed to 20 years ago?
Players today are more worried about making it to the NFL. They don't have as much of an understanding of what it takes to get there, and what they need to do to win at the college level. As they were stars and much more recognized in high school now, they haven't had to work as hard as they need to do to take that next step.
Why haven't we been harder on players that have gotten in trouble, and why do we seem to have more problem players?
The kids haven't gotten any worse. The parenting isn't the same that is was a couple decades ago. They're still the same kids they've always been. Coach Bowden realizes a lot of these kids will have nothing if he kicks them out, and believes many of them would end up in jail or worse. He wants to see them turn the corner and blossom into good men, and will go to the ends of the earth to help them do so.
There definitely could be something to the parenting thing, but Coach Bowden doesn't know the names of most of the players.
Who are the early candidates at rover, and why was Korey Mangum moved there?
The two early players are Mangum and Nick Moody. Mangum was moved by Mickey because he was having some trouble in space and he wanted to get some of the young corners reps at CB. Mangum wasn't happy with the move early on, but looked to settle in a bit better late in the spring.
He initially thought Moody was too big to stay at safety. Once they saw his body composition, and that he retained all of his speed and quickness, he stayed. He feels Moody can be an outstanding player at FSU.
Please, for the love of God, do not allow Korey Mangum to play meaningful minutes for this team. Moody better step up.
Who are some of the freshmen standing out early?
He cannot observe the new players yet, and had no answer.
This is a bit silly. Andrews absolutely knows which players are looking good out there. He talks with the coaches who are allowed to observe workouts.
Who do you feel will step up into Everette Brown's shoes at defensive end?
Markus White. Markus has really looked to turn the corner from his first season. With some strong words, Mickey feels Markus can be as good a defensive end as FSU has had in several years.
Markus looks better and better very day.
What was you best defense ever?
It's a hard answer, but the 1993 defense was just nasty. But, there have been so many outstanding players over the years.
What are your thoughts on this years defense?
"Talented but inexperienced." There are 25 players on defense that will be freshmen or sophomores. The talent level has increased, but young players will make mistakes early, but they'll be playing.
Can you comment a little bit on the offense?
We have guys on the offense to win. He can say that now. He feels the offensive line has a work ethic and a mean streak to them, and thinks they'll be the best in the conference and one of the best in all of college football. He really feels Christian Ponder is the most improved player on the team.
The only major question we didn't get addressed was the issue of covering the tight end. I was out of the room for about 10 minutes to talk about our Booster program, and the Q&A was a bit shorter than normal. I do hope this is plenty to address most of the questions though.
Summer Workouts
Video and Pictures from Seminoles.com! For the video, press play, then "right click, zoom, full screen". Of note in the pictures: Pic #25 is C.J. Mizell in the background.
FSU's freshmen make impression | tallahassee.com | Tallahassee Democrat
From early indications, and this is indeed very, very early, the true freshmen on the Florida State football team are making a truly good impression.
FSU Football Practice Photos| tallahassee.com (good free gallery)
Orlando Sentinel - Football workout tidbits by
Some observations, thoughts and bits of information from football conditioning workouts earlier today:
Speaking of Thacker, I spoke with him for a bit. He is recovering nicely from off-season shoulder surgery and said he's about 90 percent. He has lost about 15 pounds and weighs a little less than 270, which is where he hopes to be during the season. He's still rehabbing that shoulder and the rehab mostly involves stretching. He sometimes spends more than an hour per day stretching.
Thacker is about 264lbs and from every report I have received, looks tiny. He will likely be a non-factor this season and FSU will depend heavily on sophomore nose guard Moses McCray. Thacker is just too small and untalented to be a player in major college football.
The Bridge Program.
You probably know that C.J> Mizell is training with the team. He's current;y involved in something called the bridge program. What is the Bridge Program?
For students who are the first in their family to go to college or who are disadvantaged by economic, cultural or educational circumstances, the culture shock can be particularly traumatic, hindering their chances for success.
To help smooth the way for such students, Florida State University's Center for Academic Retention and Enhancement (CARE) offers a "Summer Bridge Program" that gives them an opportunity to acclimate to college life at a more comfortable pace while providing them with the information and advice they need. This week, more than 310 incoming freshman students from all over Florida are on the FSU campus as part of the Summer Bridge Program. They are staying on campus at two residence facilities, Bryan and Reynolds halls, and will receive a week of orientation and transition activities prior to their first day of classes on June 26.
"Over its six years of existence, FSU's Summer Bridge Program has admitted a highly diverse population of students, both in terms of ethnicity and of academic talents," said Karen Laughlin, FSU's dean of Undergraduate Studies. "The CARE program has continued to mentor and support these students throughout their years at FSU. In the absence of this program, many of these students likely would not have the opportunity to attend a major research institution such as Florida State University - and certainly would not have been as successful here."
Twenty-one residential counselors, including upper-division and graduate students and recent FSU alumni, will serve as live-in guides and mentors through the summer session that ends Aug. 4.
FSU Summer Football Camps & Recruiting
Youngsters get a full dose of coaching at Bobby Bowden Football Camp | tallahassee.com | Tallahassee Democrat
DeLong, a 1991 FSU grad, knew the coaches would be on hand, but he didn't know how involved they would actually be in the drills. He — and the campers — found out that answer real quick. "They're running them. And hollering at them," DeLong said with a laugh. "I saw (offensive line coach Rick) Trickett making a kid do push-ups because he didn't line up right after he told him. So it's been good. They've really been coaching them."
There were a bunch of prospects in town this weekend, including (just kids you might know):
- 2010 DB LaMarcus Joyner, who had a great time by all accounts and will stay in town until Wednesday, before heading home for a day or two, and then returning for Seminole Showtime! He also attended Ernie Sims' VIP Party at Chubby's nightclub, which is awesome.
- Blake Bortles, a QB from Oviedo. Keep him on your radar in case he blows up. Very raw.
- Christian Green (but he didn't workout)
- DT Damien Jacobs (Louisnana, will be here this week)
- DT Elliott Porter (Louisiana, stayed for the weekend)
- 2011 DE Ray Drew, who our coaches absolutely love. 6'5", 235, huge feet, quick as a cat, likely 5*, and he preaches for his church. Very quality kid.
I'll have a big list of Showtime Visitors (Saturday, the 18th!!! Be There!!) later in this week, but I had a long talk with DE Corey Miller last night. Seems like a really good kid and a leader type. He'll be at Showtime and will be in Town Friday Night!
Andrew Carter
Here it is. Excellent piece by our friend Andrew. That SEC contract is a BIG deal. Here's John Taylor's response.
Do Offensive Lines Still Matter?
Gobbler Country goes to town on a weak piece by an Oklahoma Writer.
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Showtime
Has anybody heard of the exact time Showtime is going to start? I have two people telling me 1pm, one telling me 4pm and another telling me 7pm.
Mickey Andrews comments
I like what I am reading. A small change in philosophy won’t change the size of our defense, but I like the focus on adapting and improving. MMMMM, this Kool-Aid is good. Oh Yeah!
Ray Drew
Loves the Noles.
Glad to see Damien Jacobs stay the entire week.
I know a bunch of people who went through the Bridge Program, they do good work.
Pretty cool to have the Mickey transcript all typed out, thanks Crowl.
Drew is likely a Five-Star lock and I've spoken with many people who rave about his character.
He could be Reggie White.
Do you know what church he attends?
I used to work at a Ministry in Thomasville that had lots of kids from TCC
I can't believe how big that kid is, he's built like The Hulk
6’5 and 235 lbs at 16 is insane.
LJ staying this amount of time is great
What do you guys think of the plan to dedicate 10 minutes of each defensive practice to defending the GT option? I’m not sure how to feel about that.
Love it because the same principles of discipline will assist us with the other 6 offenses that
make us defend 11 players instead of 10 (10 is when the QB hands off and stands aside, is not a run threat)
This is something I hadn't thought of
I like that aspect a lot. Defending 11 is certainly something we need work on. I will say, though, that in no way does this equate to 3 weeks of prep time for GT. But it’s a start.
We need our offense to beat GT, if the defense plays better then "poor" we should win.
10 minutes per practice should help accomplish that.
by TBfisherman on Jul 13, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
It's just 10 minutes, I don't think it could hurt.
I made the comment awhile back about practicing to beat UF every practice, and if you are prepared for them, lesser opponents shouldn’t be a problem.
I know that only works in theory due to different matchups, but the type of discipline it would take to stop GT or UF would certainly help in any game.
Mickey stated the same thing we learned about the '93 defense being the best ever,
and something that was not really contested by anyone in the comments of the ’93 vs ’99 debate, which kinda surprised me.
What was you best defense ever?
It’s a hard answer, but the 1993 defense was just nasty. But, there have been so many outstanding players over the years.
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em
Hey guys here's a great article on Jarmon Fortson in The Democrat
Or at least I call it great because it confirms what I believe about Fortson, I think this will be his year lol
Old Nole fans like me love to compare burgeoning youngsters and prospects to former players we relate to
And I see similarities between Kevin Knox and Jarmon’s game. Above average height, man children, big hands that gobble up passes. YAC machines.
Nice clip
I see the resemblance for sure lol
The OL story
that offensive line story has a poll attached to it “do offensive lines still matter” — it’s currently 58-0 on the yes side.
Basically, that’s pointing out that the guy claiming otherwise is just an idiot, or at least makes a poor argument that fools no one.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Jul 13, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions
The question on the SEC deal I have is
will it lead to conference shuffles, near term or before it ends?
with more and more money from TV involved, will there came a day when the networks twist the arms of conferences to re-align for money?
Let’s say the SEC deal starts looking like a money loser to the networks with years left on the deal. Do CBS and ESPN twist the SEC’s collective arm to dump, say, South Carolina for FSU? Or dump Vanderbilt for Louisville? In short, to dump schools competitive in basketball and football to replace programs less competitive, or to dump teams in smaller TV markets for ones that appeal more nationally or in larger markets?
by Wild@Heart Nole on Jul 13, 2009 12:31 PM EDT reply actions
I'm not sure what all the deal says, but I'm sure
Vandy won’t be trumping FSU, USC, Texas, OU, etc…for tv time.
are you asking about the TV trying to get
a team like Vandy or USC out the SEC and getting a team like FSU or say clemson into the SEC. I know money talk but I dont think they have that much to say. Not when the ACC has the B-ball teams with football also.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Yeah he's talking about conference re-alignment
Which is a valid and very interesting point. If the networks want it that badly, I think the league commissioners would certainly listen.
I don't think the SEC would be on board.
They didn’t want FSU way back when.
Even the SEC needs their cupcakes in conference. Imagine removing the bottom 1/4 of the SEC (Vandy, Miss State, USCe,) and replacing them with FSU, Clemson, Miami.
I don't think they'd be on board either
You’d have to take a look at the contract and see what kind of leverage the networks could get over the conference to see if it’s even feasible. But I could see there being pressure on the conference if the bottom 1/4 were deemed as “money losers” by the network footing the massive bill.
actually, the ACC and SEC were bidding for FSU
way back when. The SEC just couldn’t then guarantee the overall revenue that the ACC could — then. Back then, the ACC’s basketball moneys more than made up the gap on the football side, just not anymore.
But it never did come down to a formal offer … no conference wants to formalize an offer and have it rejected.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Jul 13, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
“Meanwhile, the SEC had caught wind of the ACC’s intention to hold an expansion vote and quickly convened its own conference call. They voted to not extend Florida State an invitation to the conference.”
that same link
shows that the SEC was serious enough about FSU that the FSU athletics board held a vote on whether to spend efforts in pursuit of the SEC or the ACC, the two courting conferences at that time.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Jul 13, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe FSU tried for a while to get there...UF blocked their attempts.
There’s your Ammo for your gator friends that chant SEC.
and
The gators had the most ridiculous artificial turf I’ve ever seen. Saw it on a gridiron great replay the other day. I had to bring it up.
Yes, and you have me to thank :P
I had recently graduately from FSU Law and ran into one of my old professors, who headed up the blue ribbon committee exploring the conference deals. I told him I preferred the ACC due to the image and the possible academic affiliation, which were much better than what the SEC offered. He said he was hearing that many people had the same opinion.
You have to remember the times: In 1990, FSU was “America’s Team”. Next to ND we had perhaps more national TV apparence than anyone. Clothing sales were up there with Michigan. There was a high school in Oregon trying to get copies of our music; we were that well known.
The reason the SEC came calling in 1991, after snubbing us for years, is that we had now made our own fame and had left them in the dust. As far as the country was concerned, the SEC was a bunch of inbreds that nobody out of the deep south cared about. But FSU was a circus and would go anywhere— Michigan, Michigan State, Syracuse, BYU. Bowden was national celebrity thanks to interviews and even such things as a cameo appearance on Evening Shade. The Miami-FSU games had been among the most watched in CFB over the last 3 years. Our TV and bowl revenues were ridiculous.
And that’s why the SEC suddenly wanted us. We would have upped their image and their coffers by that time. But the ACC made a better deal. And believe me, the SEC was PO’d. They acted like they were doing us a favor, but we had grown way beyond them at the time.
If anyone besides ND could have pulled off remaining as an independent, it would have been FSU. But we needed a stable and dependable income for the future, so we joined the conference bandwagon.
by FiestaNole on Jul 13, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
By not wanting, i was referring to them withdrawing the offer
I know they had interest in FSU along the way.
SEC doesn't need FSU or anyone else honestly....
the recent contract proves that.
The issue is…..can the ACC can a TV contract that puts them in the same ballpark as the SEC. Honestly, it won’t be close…..but it has to get MUCH closer than where it is now?
Is the ACC smart enough to see the urgency? To package basketball to increase $$$? Is Swofford the man to do it?
it might not be doable
the economy has grown much worst from the time the principle parts of the SEC deal were agreed to.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Jul 13, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I think taking 10 min a day in practice is a great thing.
But is it enough. I would like them to take 15 min. I know 5 min isnt much more but 10 min goes by very fast in practice. Thats only about 15 plays if you think ab out it. Maybe 18 most with talking and time to run it back. I love the idea and I think thats is going to help out a lot.
As for Mangum, so what are they going to do with him. Run him as a LB or S. can see a rover but only because he has some Exp over the Fr. Thats about it though. Hes not fast at all.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
I kind of assume
that Andrews and crew will spend time in the pre-season putting in the basics of defending an offense like Georgia Tech’s and the ten minutes at each practice is simply keeping it fresh in mind. Any “wrinkles” that get revealed during the season by Georgia Tech will be dealt with during the practice week for the Tech game.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Jul 13, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Have you guys read his recruiting diaries??
Some of the funniest stuff I have ever read in my life
Here is some of it couldnt find the full article:
Florida State University
‘’When Coach Bowden picked me up, he had a box of chicken wings for me… there was only like two wings. I told him `Coach, we’re still going to dinner right?
``Coach Haggins told us to order as much as we wanted. I ordered a steak and a lobster tail. The lobster tail was like $49.99. I couldn’t believe something so little could cost so much. The steak didn’t even have a price.
But, then I saw what the other guys were ordering, I was like, `Forget this.’ I called the waiter back and told him to bring me four lobster tails, two steaks and a Shrimp Scampi. It was good. I took two boxes back with me to the hotel.’’
‘’Coach Bowden was cool, but Ms. Bowden was the bomb. I swear, she must be related to Betty Crocker or something. When we walked into that house, it was like walking into a Publix Bakery — banana pudding, chocolate cake, cheesecake. I had one of everything. I didn’t want to leave.’’
Auburn
’’I really wanted to go to Red Lobster for some more lobster and steak (per the FSU visit, no doubt), but they told me the wait was two hours. So I got me some baby back ribs, buffalo wings and shrimp. Even though I ordered first, somehow, I was still the last one to get my food.
‘’You know how it is, those girls are supposed to be there to cheer you up. But I told them, `I ain’t no animal, and I ain’t going to eat no plant. I’m from Miami. I don’t eat that. You farm people are used to it, but not me.’’ (After several female hosts, nicknamed the ‘Tigerettes,’ offered him some of their spinach dip)
‘’One guy decided it was enough for him to commit. They tried to get me to join him. The girls were shouting, `We want you Willie. We want you.’ I couldn’t do it. So I just waved good-bye and got on the bus.’’
Miami
When I saw Coach Coker was driving the Escalade, I was like, `Dang, coach got some taste.’ ’’
’’We’d get to a red light and I would hold on because the bus driver would just take it. Coach Coker was like, `Willie, we’ve got police escorts.’ I told him, ‘Thank God. I thought the police were trying to pull us over and give us a ticket.’
‘’I was running like a blind man. I had my eyes closed cause I didn’t want none of that smoke to get in my eyes. Coach was like, `It’s OK, Willie. It isn’t going to hurt you.’ Now, I know." (Running out of a tunnel through a giant-sized UM helmet and the infamous smoke)
‘’J.R. and I figured we would stuff the Miami Hurricane jerseys under our clothes. Bobby hid his in his stomach, but he looked pregnant.’’
Florida
‘’I ate so many meatballs, the people there started looking like meatballs. Some guy kept trying to get me to eat these alligator tails, but I wasn’t having it. I told him `I’m not the Crocodile Hunter.’ I don’t touch reptiles.’’
‘’There was Gatorade all over the place.’’ I was like `I get it. Gatorade was made at Florida.’ ’’
‘’The first night I was OK with eating at the stadium. But when they told me we’re going to eat there again, I was a little disappointed. I was like, `Take us to Red Lobster or something.’
``That’s when I pretty much made up my mind. I can’t live in a place that don’t have any restaurants. What am I going to do — fly home to eat shrimp?’’
Hilarious
There was some personality in that kid I suppose lol
Joyner
is a strange looking gentleman. He has a crunched up face and long arms, I can’t help but think of Rajon Rondo everytime I see him.
Whats his wing span? 7 feet?
With those long arms, his height will no longer be an issue with those who doubted his athleticism.
by CSI Nole on Jul 13, 2009 2:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
After watching LJ on film
I don’t see how people questioned it to begin with. I’m just so excited for the day when he’s on one side and Greg Reid is on the other. I really hope he commits soon, I believe he’s the one to open the flood gates.
Just felt there were some who questioned his height before they even watched film of LJ.
I’m hoping that commitment comes some time this week!
by CSI Nole on Jul 13, 2009 3:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not referring to TN members… In general, for those who don’t follow recruiting much.
by CSI Nole on Jul 13, 2009 4:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I like this!
What can we change or do to beat an option offense much like the one Georgia Tech runs?
Mickey has had some people very familiar with this offense come in and talk with him about how to slow it down. The defensive staff has already reviewed the Yellow Jacket films and have set a new defensive game plan. The defense will be dedicating 10 minutes of practice time every day from day 1 to learn how to defend this defense, and practicing this game plan. It will give the the equivelent of three weeks of full prep and practice time for it by the time the game comes.
Now that’s the old Mockey we knew and loved! He’s not napping afterall. Man, I hope he goes out on a high note.
But his comment on the OL becoming best in conference got me thinking: why not the DL? What’s missing? I loved Odell as a player, but is he too laid back as a coach?
In 2011
We could have the best D-line in THE NATION lol
So students in the program are not FSU students?
Defense is not the problem, but will it be this year?
It sounded like certain students were selected for it to ensure there enrollment.
Defense is not the problem, but will it be this year?
I like the Mickey interview.
It sounds like he is at least trying to make adjustments to slow down certain offenses.
Great spread here
You know the recruiting trance some of the former coaches went into hurt FSU recruiting on defense also I believe. It is not all Mickey ineptness on the X and O part. Having lineman who can get to the quarterback before receivers have all day to run routes will help.
“The flood gates are opening” has always been my favorite line when I am announcing a new recruit and trying to piss off rival posters on a forum. LOL It works every time.
Maybe not, but I’d say it’s about 95% his fault. Our personnel didn’t drop off much at all and last year they had All-Americans yet the defense was still not good. It’s not weather, injuries, or any other factor. If it lasts three years or more it’s the coach every time. And when you’re not held accountable by the head coach it makes for a real bad situation. Most of them would be, at the very least, applying some heavy pressure to improve or else. Hell, most would have said “sayonara” after three straight years of it.
It was long ago and it's far away but it was so much better than it is today--Meatloaf
by CantwaitforJimbo on Jul 14, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Out at the 2nd practice today
Eduardo Clements, Quinton Dunbar, Godfrey,Gainer, Resse, and some other studs showed up. They are going to be working out tomorrow. BTW also brung up another kid who’s on my lil camp sqaud and he put on a show. He snagged a 50 yd one handed interception and covered side line to sideline. I got to get his name.
Terrence Brooks....
I saw the TN Twitter post that Tharinger is reporting a commit this weekend but don’t see it on their site. Was this reported directly to you? If this is true, how do you think the CB recruting breaks down?
Noel, Brooks, Joyner, Mitchell? Will we take 4 CBs this year assuming Joyner and Mitchell commit?
Darious Cummings
Just a comment about Darious Cummings. In the past I’ve seen pics that made it look like he didn’t have a wide base and wouldn’t be able to pack on much (if any) additional weight. However, from the pic at the top, he looks like his base is wide enough to pack on 40+ lbs easily. Looks much wider than in some of his older pics on other sites. Therefore, I think he can be a DT if necessary. Now if they see him as more of a SDE (no way at WDE for me) he’ll be a beast in the 275 range. At DT, he should be able to get close to 300 ala Darnell Dockett (I see a similar body type). I guess the big question then becomes how much of his speed and quickness will he retain with the additional weight (regardless of how much it ends up being as he will definitely be putting on some).

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