James F. Byrnes Defensive End Corey Miller Commits to the Florida State Seminoles!
by Bud Elliott on Jul 20, 2009 8:00 AM EDT
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Hometown: Wellford, SC
High School: James F. Byrnes
Height: 6'4 3/8"
Weight: 230 lbs
40-Yd: 4.61
Vertical: 34"
Bench Press: 335
ESPN Ranking: ESPNU 150 Watch List (but a stone cold lock to make the 150)
Rivals Rating: #4 Weakside defensive end, 4-star (5.9 grade). #57 overall player in country.
Academics: unsure of his major (he's only 17 years old), but very good in the classroom. Will graduate early and enroll in January.
Miller is my favorite prospect in the 2009 class. He was TomahawkNation's first interview and has impressed everyone with each update.
Here's an ESPN Scouting Report (Video available at link)
Miller is the definition of high motor. He never quits. Extremely athletic, but doesn't rely solely on his athleticism. Will throw a variety of moves at an offensive lineman. Great frame for adding weight, with broad shoulders and long arms. Should play as an upperclassman at 255lbs (roughly). Shows good toughness even though he's not a huge kid yet. A very productive player, he was named Byrnes' top defensive lineman in 2008. Very athletic and is a huge matchup problem for offensive tackles. Corey can play out of control at times, but that's something to be corrected by college coaches. There are few negatives with his game (if any) that aren't fixable through strength training and good coaching. Miller is an elite prospect and will be the next in the line of great Seminole defensive ends coming out of the Appalachian Mountains (Boulware, Brown, etc).* Starter on 2 State AAAA titles as a sophomore and junior - 2007 and 2008
* 2008 Byrnes Rebels Best Defensive Lineman
* Named to 2008 All Region Team
* 2008: Registered 119 tackles, 19 tackles for loss, eight sacks and two forced fumbles.
* Second team all-state selection as a junior...
* Also recruited by: LSU, Georgia, Miami-FL, Texas A&M, Wake Forest, Mississippi State, Cal, Notre Dame, Nebraska, Auburn, Maryland...
But there's more to Corey than his film. He's a very hard worker. Miller not only does his workouts with Byrnes' top notch off-season program, but he puts in work outside of the program as well. Corey is a leader in the 8am off-season workouts. He's also extremely impressive to talk to. Some recruits really leave me wondering how they can ever succeed in college. Corey isn't one of those guys. He is clearly a highly intelligent kid. He answers questions fully, and gives thoughtful answers. The other night we were discussing the pro's and cons of leaving college early to pursue the NFL and after I pointed out that an athlete could easily put aside part of his expected signing bonus to return and finish his final year of school, Corey reminded me that as long as you are on a team you have to give your all to that team. He's a kid who just has it together and I have no questions as to his ability to succeed in the classroom. Last Wednesday, I was asking him about his college search (generically, not school specific), and we started talking about how I picked a law school. I told him that I tried to block out the things every school offered, and focus on what set those schools apart. How comfortable was I at each school? Did the school have what I am looking for academically and otherwise? What kind of support system did they have for me? Did I know anyone else going to that school? Corey had some thoughtful things he was looking for as well. I could go on, but you get the point. He's one of the most impressive 17-yearold athletes I've spoken with, and others echo those sentiments.
I didn't expect Miller to commit Saturday because he is making a trip out west to see Cal and UCLA, but I texted him after he did. Miller has always liked the 'Noles since he was a little kid, and it's no coincidence that another academically minded defensive end from the Carolinas just made the NFL as a Junior (Everette Brown). With two of his former teammates in tow (2009 safety Justin Bright and 2008 DE/DT Everette Dawkins), FSU had a family feel and the 'Noles now have quite the pipeline to Byrnes high. He has an excellent relationship with FSU's coaches who made him a top priority. FSU was able to lay out the plan for Miller and it worked because Miller could see himself succeeding at Florida State.
Miller will graduate high school early and enroll at FSU in January as what's known as an "early enrollee." Before he does, however, he's going to try and grab two of his current teammates: 4* DT Brandon Willis, and 5* RB Marcus Lattimore, both of whom have the 'Noles very high on their lists. Miller says that his class is going to be special. He already has the numbers of several prospective 'Noles and speaks with Darius Cummings and a certain South Florida corner who has yet to publicly commit.
Here's Miller (at left):
Corey Miller is doing all the right things so far in his young career and looks to have taken the first step to becoming a great Seminole.
Current Defensive Line Commitments:
WDE Corey Miller (4*)
SDE/ DT Darious Cummings (4*)
SDE Tavares Barnes (not yet rated)
The TomahawkNation.com recruiting map has been updated to reflect the commitment.
Make sure to check the TomahawkNation.com Recruiting Board to stay current with all the 'Nole's current targets!
Check back later today for more updates!
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This defensive line class is shaping up to be amazing
Add Willis and McCloud in there and we are set.
I like this quote from the article:
“certain South Florida corner who has yet to publicly commit.”
Implying something are we?
Haha. Who drops ’’we’’ without being in the ‘’we?’’
also… we will take 7 or 8 dlinemen. my guess is Willis Jacobs and 2 more (big bodies)
by Bud Elliott on Jul 20, 2009 8:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
With the D-line we got this year and next year
we look like we could be loaded on the line. But they dont seem to have the size still. I would be nice to have all the speed but there needs to be some size too. thats the only thing that worries me.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
PLenty of size in Moses McCray though
I think Jacobbi will add more muscle too in our system.
We should be fine. Miller and Willis both have excellent frames to put on some healthy weight
its one thing to have a frame
I though Budd had a frame for some more weight. Also I want it now not later. What kinda of weight do we have now. Our LB are going to get hurt running around tell some 300lb+ guard gets ahold of them and rolls them up.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Size
I am torn on the size issue. It would be nice to have a couple of 300 lb tackles to clog up the middle, but on the other hand the lighter tackles will be quicker. Our offence should be good this year and great the following year, that will take a load off the defense while the offense is on the field chewing up the clock. Plus we rotate a lot of players which should keep fresh players on the field preventing them from getting worn down.
have you checked out the two articles on size in the right sidebar? ‘’featured stories’’ we have to 2-gap these non prostyle attacks.
by Bud Elliott on Jul 20, 2009 8:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I noticed last year
The longer our Offence was on the field the better I was. Our Def would wreck anyone if they stayed off the field. They would come in rested get 3in and 3 out cover the punt and chill for a while. The more rest they got the better they came in. Also I noticed that The longer our Offence was in the better they played. I think thats because of trickett. He has them as some of the most enduring players we have had in a while.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
very nice!!!
I was hoping to have about 5 to 7 commits from showtime, but I think we were all hoping for that. Miller is such a great pickup and it will do nothing but help us with the other two burnes kids. I am geting excited about the way our d-line could look in the next two years.
FSUnc…. Any thoughts on who might commit next??
Willis
maybe Shaw if someone leans on him.
Possibly a linebacker though our top prospects want to take their visits.
Maybe Mitchell or one of the central kids.
Tharinger said
Shaw impressed at Showtime. Do you think we’ll take him? They also made it sound like we want to take Haggins.
I was hoping for at least 2 more verbals after SS
Corey Miller was a huge pick up for the Noles. Willis should be next and possibly Lattimore later on this year.
I must admit, a little concerned about Christian Green.
Seems like we’re doing a good job landing recruits that play D. We could definitely use a couple more verbals on offense, to get the ball rolling. To this date, all we have is DJJ at WR.
by CSI Nole on Jul 20, 2009 10:00 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I am also beginning to be concerned about Green.
by Bud Elliott on Jul 20, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
What was his reason for not coming to showtime?
Some addtional showtime questions:
Do these camps cost $ to the recruits? Do they stay on campus?
I’m asking because there were ALOT of players there (ALOT of former Noles too, many more than were listed). And I’m sure alot of these players come from areas/families without alot of disposable income.
With Dunkley not working out and getting there late, why would he even bother unless he is legitimately interested in the Noles? Not sure if he drove or flew, but still a considerable cost.
Heard something about a family reunion, but that's so sketchy because E.G. greenw as at showtime.
I don’t think FSU has much chance with Dunkley.
The camp cost $10, many stay with current players.
by Bud Elliott on Jul 20, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Thought I read somewhere that he attended Chaz Greens family reunion, not his own. Then Chaz and Christian both make their way to Hogtown the day after Showtime?
I think FNL will be more successful than Showtime, as far as getting commits. :ot
by CSI Nole on Jul 20, 2009 10:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The way it read to me was it was Chaz Green's family reunion
and Christian was invited to attend.
What sucks though is that Chaz, Christian and Dunkley were all at UF on Sun. Not sure if any/all of them are attending FNL next this coming weekend. I suspect Chaz will – but quite frankley am more concerned about the other 2.
I think we have a great shot at Christian and little shot at the others.
by Bud Elliott on Jul 20, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
WR's
So we’re currently thinking that we’re trying to bring in a class of DJJ, Dunkley/Green, and Shaw?
IMO Green>Dunkley, but I wouldn’t be too upset as long as we got one of them.
I agree
Green > Dunkley….but, I may not be great at evaluating video, because I’m not completely impressed with Lattimore’s video either.
From the video, Gainer > Lattimore in my opinion.
I'm converted....I agree
Lattimore’s newest film is smokin.
I’m OK with getting Gainer and Lattimore :)
yeah, that's the one.
Not alot of variety in the play calling, but a much better video that the old one on here.
It was reported that Christian was not going to attend FNL. After what’s taken place this weekend, I’m gonna assume that he’ll be there.
by CSI Nole on Jul 20, 2009 10:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I feel what were once DT prospects are now DE under Jimbo. I see us getting away from the 260-280 DT and 230-250 DE to a moar SEC 300+ DT and 260+DE, which I like. Let’s get some bigger DL to free up some amazing LB’rs we have.
IMO Jimbo already knows who his DC is and is re-tooling the D to that end so "his"guy can hit the ground running in the spring of 10. Good times ahead IMO.
Ameica, Land of the free and home to the entitled.
Dead on. He has privately expressed the need for bigger defenders.
by Bud Elliott on Jul 20, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
After the article on "size matters" I felt more educated about the subject.
Funny thing is that a recent article on SI by Mandel suggests the smaller/quicker/more agile defenders to stop the spread, but talks about CFB trends being cyclical, and teams should start beefing up now preparing for the return of the pro-style attack….
or something along those lines.
anyway, my point was he missed the mark a bit because
he didn’t take into consideration the fact that the smaller D-line was going to need help from the LB to stop any team that runs the spread and has a power runner (tebow).
I dont think people understand the spread.
the spread does what Spreads the Def. That means less people in the box. If there are 7+ in the box throw outside to a WR in open space. If there are 6- in the box run down there throats with the QB and RB. Thats what I see it doing. Most teams want to run the ball more than pass because there is so many things that could go wrong in the pass vs the run. But the spread is just a numbers game. (the o-line, Qb, and RB or my 4WR and 1Rb vs what you have in or out the box.)
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
by Desman on Jul 20, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
B. Willis and M. Lattimore
What’s the 411 on academics? Shouldn’t be an issue, right?
by CSI Nole on Jul 20, 2009 11:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Willis is an EE
Not sure if Lattimore is but he will qualify.
by Bud Elliott on Jul 20, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
The plan
There is a simple way to stop both the traditional and spread offense, bring in defenders who are both big and fast. Ka-ching!
We are actually seeing some of this. McDaniels is the kind of guy who can grow into a tackle that needs to be triple teamed at times. McCray and McCloud fit this mode. If you get tackles who draw this much attention the linebackers and corners are freed up for the blitz.
As for corners Parks also fits the mold. Chad Abrams and the new one Brooks also. They can cover but they also can lay a hemet on people and strike some fear into receivers and running backs.
You can disguise the defense with them as these types can double as a corner or safety and the offense is not given a clear indication of what the coverage is. They are not sure if the defense is going to drop back into coverage or blitz.
I really like what I am seeing here. I am still sick over losing Marvin Austin to UNC. He is the kind that demands double to sometimes triple coverage.
by DocHoliday2 on Jul 20, 2009 11:13 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think another big this about these is we need to use both
Man coverage and Zone. I think the Zone can kill the spread. Also teams would have no clue who was where with us because we never use it. If we had Corners that can play S also then the zone is great. I Still want us to move to a 4-2-5 or a 3-4. Thats just me though.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Zone does well against the spread passing game
but can you play a good zone against the spread and run teams?
Im sure you can If you still blitz
Also you dont have to have everyone in zone and you dont have to play zone the whole time. yes it more for the Def to know but you can make zone and man look the exact same and the QB would never know tell after the snap. Have the CB man up on the WR and have them bump and play the flats with the S coveing down when they release. My HS played more like a cover 3 and cover 2. we also ran a 5-2. where the DE were more like OLB but rushed 95% of the time.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Get your idea but in reality you cant really disguise.
Once the play is called in and the def is set, the offense then goes into a check if the def that is being shown is conducive to the play that’s called the you keep it on if not there is an audible called. The reason that you cant disguise is that if a linebacker walks out into the slot with a receiver there is no chance even if he is blitzing to consistently get into a play and cause havoc. Now if the linebacker is lined up tighter to the box then he can’t consistently get out to cover the receiver either. So no matter where you align yourself the offense has a check or a play to counter it. What you need is what has been talked about time and time again SIZE upfront as well as outside at corner. In college we called it bounce action making running backs bounce outside instead of getting down hill. When it comes to the bubble screens and quick pass routes you need big corners to force bounce action as well but instead of outside you have to hold the point of attack and force them to go inside back to your pursuit.
The reason that I do like your ideas on safety/corner combo type players is that the most effective defense against us was a Heavy man press defense. The way to always play good D against the spread is to make it uncomfortable no free release off the line, screwing up running lanes and timing on handoffs. We used to use a thing with our backside D end who is the qbs read on running plays called show and recover. It requires and athletic end he takes a deep step down to the play and then recovers back. Its like playing cat and mouse the qb may start to pull and then once he realizes you aren’t chasing down the line its to late. I have some diagrams of stuff that I need to put onto my comp but if anyone would like I can show you what I am talking about based upon how teams attacked us.
I realize that
But remember Parks has also been a corner. He could play corner for most teams. Jamie Robinson has played the corner, Demps (I did not mean to leave him out) can also play corner or safety, the new one Brooks looks like he could go either way, a hitter.
All I am saying if caught in various situations we have types who can fall into coverage or stop the run. You can pull off some surprises with guys like this by moving them around. A corner has to have some run stopping skills. Have you ever seen a corner’s eyes light up when a 250 pound Tebow breaks into the defensive backfield?
I don’t know just what type coverage skills Abrams could bring but he is a hitter.
Harley brings the blaze but from what I am reading needs to work on tackling same with Alexander and Allen. I am not sure how effective Reid is yet at stopping the run.
Who knows if Imeokparia will recover from the ACL and be a factor but the guy can tackle this much we know. I don’t really know what he is all about as he was hurt so early.
What was the formation once discussed here called? The zone with safeties lined up at the corner?
I don’t recall, but these situations make the D more flexible with athletes like T.Parks playing along the corners as a safety. Imagine the difference between T. Parks playing close to the split end vs. Roger Williams, Myron, Kyler Hall, etc.
any film on Abrams?
Imeokparia is another one that doesn’t deserve a scholly.
by fsufrenzy911 on Jul 20, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
not on ESPN or youtube.
If you know of some free highlights, can you post a link?
by fsufrenzy911 on Jul 20, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
What about ESPN highlights
Sorry to bug you, but I really wanted to see his highlights. People say he is a big hitter, but what about his ball skills?
by fsufrenzy911 on Jul 21, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
If they are on his recruiting page, then they are on there.
but I don’t have any more access to them than you do, unfortunately.
These receivers might remember the name Debose
Whoever they bring in at UF is not going to play ahead of him in my opinion. They can soak up Herban’s lies if they will but buyer beware. UF is pretty loaded at receiver and well we have seen quite a lineup of disgruntled employees leaving Gainesville in the past.
Debose is a good player, but doesn't have 1/10th the talent of Harvin.
Harvin is really, really special.
Really? I think Debose just has that extra gear that Green does not.
by Bud Elliott on Jul 21, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I know it's dumb to base things off all star games
but when Debose took that pass 80 yards, he didn’t look to have an extra gear to me.
I'd say the same about Dunkley's video (for the most part).
He got some tough yards, but not really blowing past everyone.
Who else do you see us taking?
The Big Board has our need at 6 on the DL. That would mean Willis, McCloud, and one more right?
Jacobs, from Louisiana is high on our board
by basbalstr101 on Jul 20, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Are we sure our coaches want McCloud back
if he qualifies? If the coaches want him, I’d love to have him. He’s a big DT and he’d be a junior, so it wouldn’t backlog our roster with underclassmen at the position.
I have no idea if Cummings, Willis, McAllister and Barnes will grow into DTs or if they will be big DEs. I guess I don’t care too much. If they max out at 280, but maintain enough speed, we could maybe even rotate them at DT and DE. Quick DT and big DE.
We definitely need 4 guys that either are or can get up close to DT size, though. We’ll have 3 DT after this season (McAllister, McDaniel, McCray…I think Dawkins should stay at DE). If we add 3 FR (2 of Willis/Barnes/Cummings and Jacobs) and McCloud as a JR (to go along with McCray as the 2 elder statesmen), that’d be perfect. Miller and 1 of Willies/Barnes/Cummings would be the 2 DEs.
Is that best case scenario? How would everyone else fill out our DL class?
I believe we will take 7 defensive linemen. if mccloud is healthy, qualified, and taking care of business, he is in. we can’t turn him down and still hope to have a shot at 2011 DE ray drew and another olineman they have.
by Bud Elliott on Jul 20, 2009 7:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Why in the world would we turn down McCloud?
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.
Elayne Boosler
We likely will not. But…
Grades
Health (blood pressure)
Continued development.
by Bud Elliott on Jul 21, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I know this might be a little off topic...
But I was wondering, with all this talk about Jimbo, the differences in defensive recruits we are taking, and him slowly implementing the changes he wants for his DC, who do yall think we get, or who is “his guy”? Personally, I was hoping for a Kevin Steele return but Clemson ended that fairly quickly…
Many say Greg Hudson (East Carolina DC)
I’d LOVE Kevin Steele, but yes, won’t happen.
I suspect it’s someone whom we have not thought.
If only Jimbo had gotten in his ear before he left.
Didn’t Steele have problems with Saban? I think Jimbo and Saban get along, so may have had the same issues here.
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