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Aubrey Phillips eats his way out of Tallahassee; leaves the 'Noles for Auburn

Yesterday on the Jeff Cameron show, the topic of now departed FSU signee Aubrey Phillips came up.  Phillips was a four-star recruit by rivals.com, and signed with the 'Noles in February.  Many had concerns about Phillips ability to play for legendary Florida State offensive line coach Rick Trickett.  Trickett is widely regarded as the premier offensive line coach in college football and he prefers his linemen to be athletes and in impeccable shape.  When he signed, Phillips weighed about 320lbs (he is 6'5").  He assured FSU that he wanted to play for Rick Trickett and that he would be willing to put in the work to get down to his assigned goal weight (about 300lbs) by the time he reported for summer camp.  Phillips was essentially tasked with losing 15-20lbs over the course of 22 weeks, which is not that difficult for a person of his age and size.  Instead of working to lose the weight and come into camp in even a modest approximation of physical fitness, Phillips ballooned to more than 340lbs.  That's right, instead of dropping 20, he added 20 (or as much as 30, depending on who you ask).  

Predictably, Phillips struggled when he reported to FSU...

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The obese offensive tackle lagged through off-season conditioning drills.  He was by far the most out of shape player.  Grossly unhealthy, Phillips was unable to complete many of the drills and he was clearly struggling.  He also probably can't see his feet (or some other things).  Phillips participation in the workouts soon tailed off. 

He made the wrong choice and I made the wrong choice," Trickett told the Opelika-Auburn News in a phone interview Tuesday. "This stuff happens in recruiting."

Trickett, who served as an Auburn assistant from 1993-98 under Terry Bowden, said Tuesday that he met with Phillips just twice in his office during the summer before Phillips decided to leave. Because of NCAA rules banning on-field contact between players and coaches during the summer, Trickett said he never saw Phillips labor through conditioning drills, but was receiving full reports from
the Seminoles' strength and conditioning staff.

Trickett said that Phillips, who showed up 30 pounds heavier than his high school playing weight, struggled so much that the staff originally believed Phillips had a heart condition. [Phillips wasn't even able to run. He walked through the conditioning drills that he didn't decide to skip]

"We discovered he was just tremendously out of shape," Trickett said. "When he had to get working, he didn't want to do what we expect.

"We have pretty high standards down here right now. It was just the wrong place for him."

Despite their obvious differences, Trickett said he and Phillips parted amicably.

"Wish him well," Trickett said. "Hope it works out for him."

This was obviously not pleasing to Florida State's coaching staff, who probably felt duped by Phillips.  They expressed concerns over his ability to get to their desired weight for him before signing the player, he promised them that he could do so, then proceeded to embarrass himself and the program.  Rick Trickett told him that he was not allowed to sit with the other linemen at lunch and that he no longer considered Phillips an FSU offensive lineman.  Trickett said that he was only still at FSU because of his binding letter of intent.  Phillips was not making satisfactory progress towards his goal weight (a goal even tougher given his laziness and complete lack of effort to lose weight before reporting to Florida State).  

Coach Trickett is not a nice coach.  He is an ex-marine who is very tough on his players and demands that they possess great mental toughness and self-discipline.  He is not a coddler of any sort.  That's why this story is baffling- recruits know what they are getting in Trickett.  To choose to play for Trickett and then completely ignore his instructions seems irrational.

Then last week, Aubrey left the 'Noles and waddled back to Mississippi.  "Homesickness" was originally cited as the cause, but word soon began to trickle out that Aubrey's departure was largely based on his immaturity and obesity.  

Now, though, Aubrey is embarrassing himself.  FSU had enough of his act and granted him his unconditional release and he will transfer to Auburn.  Auburn is a fine program and they are willing to take a shot on the young man.  Aubrey is saying that the reason he left FSU is that FSU was mistreating him!  Obviously, Aubrey can't handle playing major college football at this point.

FSU didn't mistreat Aubrey.  Aubrey alienated himself from teammates and coaches through his attitude and inaction.  The whole situation really makes me wonder what Aubrey was thinking when he committed to play for the best and most demanding offensive line coach in America.  

If anything, FSU was worried about Phillips health.  By definition, Phillips is Super-Morbidly Obese, meaning that he has a body mass index of more than 40.  That places him in the top 1% of all fat people in the US.    Super-Morbid Obesity contributes to a huge number of health problems, including diabetes, heart disease, and  is overwhelmingly likely to decrease a person's lifespan.  Doctors recommend changes in diet and (get this!) exercise as ways to combat obesity.

Phillips was obviously not living up to his responsibilities and then blaming FSU's coaches when they are understandably disappointed.  If Aubrey would have worked at losing the weight, he would still be at FSU.  He did not, however, and will now strain the confines of even the largest Auburn Tiger uniform.

Yet it gets worse still for Phillips, as he is claiming that had he known about FSU's probation, he would not have signed with the 'Noles.  He's doing this in an attempt to skirt the NCAA's one year transfer penalty.  The problem with Phillips argument, however, is that he knew about the probation.  FSU went on self-imposed probation more than a year before Phillips signed, and with all the teams negatively recruiting against the 'Noles, FSU explained the probation penalty to each recruit (the 'Noles are still eligible to play for the ACC championship, National Championship, on television, and all bowls.  The probation penalty is largely a warning).  Phillips was on notice of the penalty before he signed and is now looking for any excuse to avoid drawing criticism for his immaturity and his actions.  Hopefully the NCAA will see through his ploy and force him to sit out a year.

This is nothing more than a story of clearly stated expectations and consequences for action (or inaction), and a young man unwilling to face his mistakes.  He's now Auburn's problem and will not eat a scholarship at Florida State.

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Good Riddance.

I am glad he left us. Auburn can deal with him.

by fsunole23 on Jul 20, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Is he Amato's long lost nephew?

How large is that file (first pic)??? 340+ MB? That pic, ummmm…. frightens me.

by CSI Nole on Jul 20, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Very funny

Defense is not the problem, but will it be this year?

by badknees81 on Jul 20, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Aubrey Phillips is so fat...

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jul 20, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

He broke his family tree

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jul 20, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

when she goes to KFC, he asks for the bucket on the roof

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jul 20, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

he don’t fit in this joke

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jul 20, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mount Everest tried to climb him

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jul 20, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

he went to McDonalds and they offered him a group discount

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jul 20, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

he had to go to Sea World to get baptized

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jul 20, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

he ate Jenny and Craig

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jul 20, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

when he fell in love, he broke it

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jul 20, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

when he opens the fridge it says I give up

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jul 20, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chuck Amato made fun of his moobs

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jul 20, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I once ran out of gas driving around him

It was long ago and it's far away but it was so much better than it is today--Meatloaf

by CantwaitforJimbo on Jul 22, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

when he steps on a scale it says to be continued.

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jul 20, 2009 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

he fits in every lyric of Weird Al's "Fat"

When I go out to check my mail…It measures on the Richter scale

by lildrunknole on Jul 21, 2009 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

if he has one more.. pie a la mode

he’s gonna need..his own zipcode

The bad thing is that we all wanted the best for him and wished him well, but he had to take a parting shot. Otherwise, he wouldn’t have to hear all this ridicule.

by jasonole59 on Jul 21, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Amazing grace how sweet the sound, that saved a wretch like me, I once was lost but now am found…

" And He drank the world's sin so He could carry you in, and give you life"

by FSUvaFan on Jul 20, 2009 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Even though it was a miss

I think it was a miss you had to take a shot at. Everyone agrees he has talent, and if they could see that when he was a fat HS kid the hope would be he would turn into a start once he got in shape. I wouldn’t want the staff at FSU to handle the situation any other way. Now Auburn’s staff is another deal.

by osceolafan850 on Jul 20, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree

excellent player if he could settle around 310 lbs

by SWFLNole. on Jul 20, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent if he could settle around 310 AND...

know that FSU is on probation and know who Rick Trickett is and know where Tallahassee is and know FSU is in the ACC and not the SEC.

I blame Phillips’ for being lazy and fickle. However, I blame the coaches for failing to see this.

Of all positions, we better be damn sure the OL we recruit are committed. And remembering back to his recruitment, he was pretty close to following his teammate to Auburn.

by coonhound on Jul 21, 2009 6:09 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I secon that.

I blame Phillips’ for being lazy and fickle. However, I blame the coaches for failing to see this.

100% agree

Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry

by Desman on Jul 21, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not disputing ANY of the many different viewpoints of this whole ordeal. But certainly not the crap about Rick ’P’rickett. His *holeness is about as well documented as any coach with faults. Ask Auburn fans and past players and they will tell you. There’s a reason he’s still an offensive line coach and has his travel agent on speed dial. All viewpoints aside, does anyone really believe that Auburn would have signed this kid if he was still 340 pounds? I heard he’s lost most of it albeit not near 300 pounds. I know for a fact Chizik is not putting up with that kind of foolishness either. They desperately need depth on the line but if he’s as soft as FSU fans want to make him out to be right now, don’t you doubt he’ll probably be out at Auburn soon enough? Ask their players that were given the boot for similar reasons. Only he seems to do it honorably. No ‘Pricketting’ around so to speak. Prickett is lucky Phillips didn’t say ** it and eat his wrinkly old * for lunch.

Btw, I give this comments script/service an A+. Good stuff.

by JimTh on Jul 20, 2009 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I think everyone agrees that Trickett can be a prick at times

His guys have a love-hate relationship with him. He’s obviously an excellent coach. He’s also abrasive and it takes a mentally tough kid to play for Trick.

As for what Phillips does at Auburn? I cant say. I hope for Auburn that he gets it together and loses the weight. The kid has talent, but he must harness that talent.

At FSU, he was really immature. And when he left, he was still monstrously fat. I don’t buy that he’s lost most of it or any of it. Several readers saw him and he was in the pictures a few weeks back.

by Bud Elliott on Jul 20, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Trickett is the problem, I never met him but saw several interviews and he seems like a straight forward guy what you see is what you get. That being said he is not there to become someone’s father or mother, he is there to get the most out of these kids. The one’s who make it through 4 years of camp Trickett will thank him later when they are playing in the NFL collecting a nice fat paycheck.

by vegasnole9399 on Jul 21, 2009 4:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I agree with this

I didn’t agree with anything he said, but I agree with this statement.

'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
'I'm not a Role Model" - Charles Barkley

by Nattylite on Jul 21, 2009 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just didn't have the make-up or the burning desire

If Trickett really told him to sit at the other table because he isn’t one of his offensive lineman, the road immediately forks:

A) You swallow your pride (and not the mound of garlic mashed potatoes) and set your mind to prove you belong, no matter what’s throw your way.
or
B) You take it personally, do nothing, acquiesce to the ostracizing, and set in motion the ticking time clock to your demise.

He just didn’t want it enough. (“It”, meaning the opportunity to play OL at FSU, not taters)

by The K-Man on Jul 21, 2009 5:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

We needed a prick at Oline coach

You should have seen the way they were playing before Trickett got here. You would want to belittle them too. Most FSU fans did from the stands and armchairs anyway.

by FSUjab on Jul 21, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

There's really no "as FSU fans say he is"

Its evidenced in the fact that he was supposed to LOSE 20 pounds and he gained 20. I mean that shows absolutely no effort or commitment whatsoever. People can blame this on Trickett if they want but Philips quit due to conditioning workouts, a lot of which he wouldn’t even show up to. In all honesty I think he will be out of Auburn soon unless his HS teammate can somehow keep him motivated.

by truenole87 on Jul 21, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where are his parents?

I know if I were in his situation my parents would have torn me a new one for talking like that. The kid needs to grow up. If he didn’t like FSU that’s fine but it’s pretty pathetic to speak ill of the school and then lie (the “probation” deal) on top of it.

by evenflow58 on Jul 21, 2009 8:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

How many players do we have on scholarship now?

It seems like we are having more attrition all the time. I have no feeling towards the situation, it was a deal that did not work out so we move on. But it feels like we are losing more than we gain.

by diablonole on Jul 21, 2009 9:04 AM EDT reply actions  

This is not just "immaturity".

Auburn has inherited a Problem Child.

Why did he commit to Trickett? Because the idea of discipline sounded appealing to him. At some level, he knew what had been lacking in his life (I’m guessing his father was not around). But once he had to choose to follow the right path, he didn’t have it in him.

This goes beyond football. I hope someone at Auburn can get through to him and turn his young life around.

by FiestaNole on Jul 21, 2009 9:27 AM EDT reply actions  

In other news...

The food shortage warning in Tallahassee has been lifted, but famine is expected in Lee County, AL.

by FSUjab on Jul 21, 2009 9:41 AM EDT reply actions  

So, we'll need a guard in the 2010 class?

Maybe take a JUCO and backdate it to 2009??

I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.

Elayne Boosler

by NaGaNole on Jul 21, 2009 9:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah

I’d have to clean out my desk if there was a pic of him without his shirt.

by PBD on Jul 21, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

see I would expect this from Doc

Nice Frank very nice.

Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry

by Desman on Jul 21, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was too good to pass up, Des.

>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em

by FrankDNole on Jul 21, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

You sure that's big enough?

I have no clue how he’d get in that door.

by RishiM on Jul 21, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, especially since he has a placekicker and a wide receiver orbiting him!

It was long ago and it's far away but it was so much better than it is today--Meatloaf

by CantwaitforJimbo on Jul 22, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right below this post on the main page...

There’s an add for fatburningfurnace.com…LMAO

I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.

Elayne Boosler

by NaGaNole on Jul 21, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Very Disappointed

I am very disappointed by this string of postings and the thread headline. Although I agree that Aubrey Phillips let FSU down by not showing-up ready to perform, all of this juvenile name-calling, speculation about his personal/family life, and jokes about his weight are just not appropriate. Don’t forget that Aubrey Phillips is just a kid. He may not have been mature enough to make the right decisions in this case and that is too bad. He is obviously not as mature as many of his inbound classmates. But that doesn’t warrant all of this bashing. Also please don’t forget that future FSU recruits and players read these blogs as well as Gator and Hurricane fans. Let’s be classier than all of this and classier than UF or UM fans.

by Mattnm on Jul 21, 2009 5:12 PM EDT reply actions  

The Voice of FSU

Obviously Trickett and FSU won’t respond to Phillips. As the #1 site for FSU on GoogleNews, we have an opportunity to set the record straight. I wrote this precisely because other recruits will read about Phillips. College football is big business and Phillips complete lack of effort (he literally had to walk the drills because he was so fat. 54 inch waist. He didn’t follow the plan at all) hurt FSU’s program because the ’Noles could have recruited a different player had they known.

I only get into mud-slinging when it could impact recruiting. I hope every parent and potential offensive line recruit reads this story (and 7000 have).

Look back at our initial report. I laid off any mention of weight and went with homesickness. Only after Phillips provided material to our opponents to use against us in recruiting did I reaveal that he was at a dangerously close to death level of obesity and unwilling to try and work to lose the weight.

by Bud Elliott on Jul 21, 2009 5:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I agree!

This is going to scare away all of the morbidly obese recruits who can’t follow a training regimen. Warning to all lazy athletes, Rick Trickett will put you on Jenny Craig and call you mean names! TN should be ashamed.

by TBfisherman on Jul 21, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your disappointment disappoints me.

If he would have just waddled away with even an ounce of dignity, I really doubt much would have been said here or anywhere, except maybe goodbye and goodluck.

>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em

by FrankDNole on Jul 21, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

With Mattnm as to the jokes & put down comments ... not the article

No issue with the story … very good information and I appreciate the insight. But the put-downs (at least to the extreme that this devolved) seems mean spirited.

What is gained by putting down a kid that walked away … especially since we should be happy to walk away so he didn’t “waste” one of our scholarships (assuming he didn’t turn around)? Trickett is the best … and OL players that want to be the best should want to play for him.

Impact on recruiting? Mickey Andrews is a good example. Mickey Andrews was never seen as a nice guy … though the best defensive players flocked to him in the 90s because he got the job done and was seen as one of the best that had incredibly high expectations for his players.

Aubrey thought he could cut it and couldn’t … as mentioned before, he has skills and perhaps another approach can turn him around … it just won’t be with FSU (which is a good thing).

My 2 cents …

by txnole on Jul 22, 2009 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

The problem is that Aubrey is giving the impression that we lied to him during recruiting.

Do you honestly believe that no one told him about our probation?

Do you really think he got on campus, someone said “Hey we are going to be missing 3 scholarships for the next two 2 years” and get got so depressed it made him eat a small Chinese family?

The more plausible explanation is that, yes, we told Aubrey about our situation. Yes, every other coach recruiting him told him about our situation. He knew. Aubrey just screwed up and spent the last 4 months at Cici’s and is now embarrassed that he can’t keep up.

 I still have a feeling we’re going to be fine at OL without him.

I actually hope Aubrey reads this. I hope it gives him the fuel he needs to get in shape and perform well. If not, he can always start hoping for another live-action Fat Albert remake.

by MattDNole on Jul 22, 2009 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

No jokes here, but

I do stand by my comments about his obvious lack of discipline and his parents allowing it. This is about more than football— his health is in great danger. My wife says he may not live much past 30. He is damaging his heart and begging for diabetes. Somebody needs to help him find control.

by FiestaNole on Jul 22, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Missing the Point

I think many of you are missing my point. My beef with this string is not with the factual accounts of what happened and why he left FSU (and yes the fact that he was overweight is the main factor). I too hope that potential recruits read the facts and that we continue to discuss things above board. What I am referring to that disappoints me are all the grade-school level fat jokes, etc. What do those comments add to the debate? He is a kid! I guess I should remember that most of you who post here are probably still undergrads and just don’t understand that being subtle and classy when discussing something like this is more productive than throwing stones at a teenager from behind your computer screens.

by Mattnm on Jul 21, 2009 6:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I tend to agree

I thought the fat jokes got out of hand in the comments; tact should play into any comments, even when the opposite party is far from tactful.

I don’t think all of them or even a great majority are “still undergrads and don’t understand being subtle”. I knew how to be subtle when I was in undergrad, it is not something that magically happens; many adults have no clue. It is more of a fact that Aubrey treated an institiution we all love with great disrespect.

by SWFLNole. on Jul 21, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fat jokes, your mom jokes, and yellow teeth jokes and just jokes.

They aren’t really personal attacks. No one really thinks Aubrey broke his faminly tree. Immature? Yes, but most humor is. I doubt Aubrey gets his self worth from a message board.

by TBfisherman on Jul 21, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the fat jokes are just fine

The kid is 18 Y/o and could have thrown his life away because he didnt care about himself. Hes lucky UA picked him up or he would be playing ball in N FSU with Sims and PP. Im (over weight) to some standards but Im in better shape than most. Its one thing to be over weight its another to be over weight and out of shape. This kid is cutting it close with his life. Hes 6’5 310lb Im 6’3 and 250 that is 2 inches more than me and almost 90+lb. Not only does this kids bones have to carry this weight hes heart has to work overtime and then he wants to run on top of this. These are the reasons kids fall out at practice. The kid wanted to be lazy in his off season because he got a free ride to FSU thats BS. There is no suck thing as a free ride. Fredom isnt free no matter what where it is in life.

Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry

by Desman on Jul 22, 2009 6:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the fat jokes are kinda harsh on a "kid"...

…but most, if not all bets are off due to his comments about being unaware of the probation situation.
You can’t tell me you didn’t eat my Cheetos if your fingertips are orange and sticky.

by The K-Man on Jul 21, 2009 6:53 PM EDT reply actions  

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