Florida State's Seminole Showtime Camp Recap with pictures and video!
by Bud Elliott on Jul 22, 2009 9:18 AM EDT
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Florida State's Seminole Showtime camp was a great event. I really enjoyed meeting some of our long-time readers (CSI Nole, FSUBrad, and FSU44, as well as seeing MattDNole.) Oh, and the prospects were quite impressive as well. The 'Noles secured two commitments (profiled earlier this week and linked inside).
Inside, we have reports, and a bunch of pictures and video!
A big thanks to all the photographers this week, including CSINOLE, Jasonnole59, and SWFLNole! Video is by Jasonnole!
Former 'Nole greats enter the camp!
* It was often hard to tell the recruits apart. I have a photographic memory and tried to remember a clothing detail about every major prospect as they walked out the tunnel, because once they put their helmet on, it was going to be tough.
QB
I had a hard time telling some of these kids apart. I thought that Clint Trickett (Rick's son) threw a pretty ball at times, including a nice deep ball to Kenny Shaw. That said, he has some physical limitations. I believe he'll be an excellent spread QB due to his smarts and football intelligence.
Anthony Gonzalez (Bethlehem, PA) failed to stand out to most of us watching. Granted, his major attribute is his phenomenal athleticism, and he can't put that on display when he's just throwing, but he didn't clearly stand out as an ESPNU150 type recruit.
Tarean Austin is a QB out of Tampa that looked erratic. He's another athlete who some say might blow up. 6'2" skinny build. Loves Miami.
Eddie Williams is a tall kid from 2012 who looked pretty good considering he is 15 years old. 2012 Eddie Williams (Panama City) video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRk2BVsxohY Some have floated Antonio Cromartie comparisons. Going to Soph year. Scary.
RB
Tahj Kimble looked good. Very good. He's 5'11" 195 out of Fernadina Beach. The competition he plays is pretty weak, and he doesn't yet have an offer, but he was definitely the best back there (Gio Bernard attended but didn't workout). I'm not as sold on him as some others. People love the flavor of the month, and right now that's Kimble. He's a bigger back with pretty good feet and good hands, but he is not the best back in Florida. There weren't many great backs at the camp, so again, Kimble benefited from weak comparison competition.
Here are his highlights. Here's two.
Gio Bernard, the highly rated 4* back from St. Thomas Aquinas weighed in at an impressive 210lbs.
Gio Bernard likes FSU a lot.
Bernard is an excellent back who plays for a great program (St. Thomas), is extremely smart, coachable, and easily one of the best backs in the country. He didn't workout at Showtime (elite prospects often don't do camps if they have already proven themselves). Gio has all the intangible to be an elite college back (to go with his obvious tangibles).
WR
Video of WR/CB 1-on-1 Drills. The first few seconds are Jeff Luc (linebacker, see below) trotting out to his station after drinking some water. In the middle of the clip, on the near side, is Kenny Shaw catching a slant.
Video of WR/CB 1-on-1 Drills part 2: Kenny Shaw is the 3rd play in this clip catching a sideline route (in black tights). Towards the end, we see LB Holmes Onwukaife, the linebacker from Texas (6'3" 220, from Texas) and LB Jeff Luc.
Kenny Shaw (Dr. Phillips High, Orlando)has now solidified himself as a top wideout in the state. He's already a 4* by rivals.com and on the ESPNU150 watch list. Shaw was the best wideout at the camp. He stabbed at a few slant passes early but then calmed down. He told me last week that he was the best wideout in Florida and that he was going to put on a show. I asked him what about Dunkley or De'Joshua Johnson (who I expected to be participating- they were not), and he said he didn't care. I figured it was smoke, but he really showed out at Showtime. His best attribute is his ability to get in and out of his cuts quickly without losing speed. He was consistently behind the defensive backs and just got huge separation. I am sold on this kid. He loves the 'Noles, but wants to commit after his Senior season. FSU should save a spot for him unless someone better comes along. Seen here in tights (Garnet)
Shaw stabbed at a few slant passes early but ended up having a great night.
2:26 Video kenny Shaw on slant
1:41 Video of Shaw on a stop/out
Karlos Williams (2011, Davenport Ridge), brother of Vince Williams, looked good as well. He is such an athlete. Could play linebacker, safety, or Wideout.
via Karlos Williams
Andre Davis (2011, from Tampa), also looked very good. The kid is fast and caught the ball well. Impressed everyone on hand.
Chris Dunkley did show up but didn't work out. I still think he is 100% UF.
TE Tank Sessions was the only even decent looking tight end at the event.
Offensive Line
Former 'Nole and Pro Bowler Tra Thomas did an excellent job working with this group, as did FSU offensive line coach Rick Trickett.
FSU commit Ed Christian was very impressive. He looks almost as big as FSU NG Moses McCray. He will be a beast of a right tackle. Ed wears glasses, just in case you were curious.
There were two 2011 kids who I am told were brothers- Nathan and Kyle Theus, and they both looked good. Nathan especially could be a nice offensive tackle for the 'Noles.
Two local kids l kid you might see next year is offensive tackle prospect Montae Jones (Godby) and Trey Braun (Lincoln).
Defensive Line
Lots of stars were out along the defensive line. Granted, it's tough to judge linemen without pads (compared to wideouts and backs), but I did see some things
Nole commit Tavaris Barnes (Jacksonville first coast) looked good. He's very tall and has a decent frame but can probably add a good bit of weight.
Nole commit Darious Cummings (Titusvilla Astronaut) looks bigger than he was the last time I saw him, and he has his trademark quickness. Had a few wins in pass rush. (he was in Maroon helmet). He can play end or tackle. Was in the ear of all the commits all night. Darious says he will keep calling potential recruits. He loves the 'Noles and is an elite recruit. That's a nice combo to have as your recruiter.
'Nolele commit Corey Miller (DE, Byrnes HS, SoCarolina) looked very quick. He's one of the best prospects in this class and as I profiled in the preview, is a kid we are very lucky to have. Had some nice wins off the corner and has a great motor. Also, huge hands. I wear 2XL batting gloves, and his hand just engulfed mine. Definitely my fave prospect in this class. Story on Miller here.
DT Brandon Willis (Byrnes HS) looked big. He's a polished kid coming from Byrnes. He looked like he was having a great time out there and was one of the better prospects at the camp. I fully expect him to join Miller as a 'Nole fairly soon. Willis might not be able to get above 280lbs because he has narrow hips. 3-technique DT or SDE will be his destination.
* Both Willis and Miller are early entries, meaning they will enroll in January and participate in spring.
Louis Nix (DT, Miami commit) looked powerful but not in the best of shape. He also acts like a punk out on the field. Kid has some character issues he needs to work out.
Shawn Green had a bad day and was actually pancaked once or twice in drills. He kept at it though and he said that it was a great trip and that the school was very nice. Some kids aren't camp players, and he might be one of those.
The most impressive defensive lineman was 2011 DE Tim Jernigan. Unblockable. I believe he had his shoulder iced after the event, but he looks to be a surefire 5* recruit. He likes Florida early, but we can get him.
LB
FSU wants to take 4 linebackers in this class and really needs 3 at an absolute minimum.
LB Drills Video: We see Nigel Terrell to open up this video (light skinned black kid on left side). Onwukaife is in the green shorts, and Luc is in the baggy shorts. He's also huge. The focus of the water break is 2011 Karlos Williams.
Jeff Luc looked every bit of his 5* ranking. The kid is a chiseled 240lbs (roughly). He showed surprising quickness and was clearly the best linebacker at the event. I tried not to watch him a ton because everyone else watched, but I'm told he covered the RB's very well. Truly an elite prospect.
Christian Jones (Lake Mary, 4*, stud, Huge FSU lean) was very impressive looking (didn't pariticpate, just watched): He'll look great in Garnet & Gold. He looks almost as physically impressive as Luc.
Nigel Terrell looked to be very quick,. He's probably a weakside linebacker and it seems that FSU has a shot. Truenole87 watched him and said he looked very long.
Holmes Onwukaife. FSU offered him. 6'3" 220. He played defensive end last year, and will play OLB this year. The kid is from Texas and is very smart. Holds offers from Michigan and some other top schools. Harvard as well (again, smart). If he wants to come FSU would take him.
Holmes Onwukaife
Holmes Onwukaife (via jackinthetrac)
Note: FSU will not offer Jeremiah George. He was not impressive.
DB
No defensive back blew people away.
Lamarcus Brutus was a 2011 kid that a lot of people liked. Kid plays for Treasure Coast (Jeff Luc's HS). He can play safety or corner. Obviously as a 2011 DB, he's a bit raw, but he has excellent feet for a sizable prospect.
'Nole Commit Terrance Brooks looked good and had a few nice jams in 7-on-7. He's a physical kid. Good but not great speed. Could probably play safety or corner. Definitely raw at this point, but that's what T-Buck is for (to teach technique). Story on Brooks here.
Cody Riggs is just always playing well. He's not flashy, but is very well coached. Wore white w/ blue sleeves.
Tyler Hunter is an absolute stud corner/ safety prospect for 2011 out of Valdosta Lowndes (Greg Reid, Gerald Demps, Ed Christian are current 'Noles from there).
Keion Payne looked okay, but did not blow people away.
Notable Missing Players
Lamarcus Joyner, 5* corner and large 'Nole lean did not make the trip back up after spending nearly a week in Tallahassee. Most still expect him to commit before October.
Christian Green also visited FSU earlier in the week and did not make it to Showtime. He's also looking heavily at the Gators. Most recruitniks still believe he is a 'Nole.
LB Telvin Smith attended UGA's Dawg Night and not Showtime. I can't see how people honestly expect him to be a 'Nole. He will go to UGA in my opinion.
Photos of Current Players
E.J. Manuel & Greg Reid
Jacobbi McDaniel
More Videos!
7-on-7 Video In the first play of this three minute clip, we see Kenny Shaw catching a tight out route. The 2nd clip focuses in on Jeff Luc (linebacker). In the 3rd play we see Luc again.
FSU's Current Class:
6 of 8 FSU recruits are on ESPNU's 150 Watch List.
QB (optional)
RB
RB
RB (optional)
WR De'Joshua Johnson
WR
WR
WR (optional)
H-Back (optional)
TE
OL Ed Christian
OL
OL (optional)
WDE Corey Miller
WDE/SDE
SDE/DT Tavaris Barnes
SDE/DT Darious Cummings
SDE/DT
DT/NG
DT/NG
OLB
OLB
MLB
LB
CB Merril Noel
CB Terrence Brooks
CB
CB
CB/S (optional)
S Chad Abrams
FSU 7-on-7 (This Weekend)
The following prospects should be there:
QB JEFFREY GODFREY
RB BRANDON GAINER
RB EVAN BELLAMY?
WR JOSHUA REESE
WR DERRICK KNOWLES
DE COREY LEMONIER
DT CALVIN SMITH (not sure if he plays 7-on-7 but he told me on facebook that he'll be in town)
A few others but they are likely no-names.
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Great job!
I was there and saw shaw up close, he defly looks the part. Is the lb from tx better than telvin smith?
by DesiNole on Jul 22, 2009 9:23 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think they are different.
One is more run stopper stout type, the other is more rangy speed rusher type.
Nice writeup, plus some random thoughts
1) It was nice meeting everyone. Myself and the girl both had a good time.
2) It’s tough to tell from just one picture (above), but it looks like Jacobbi has already dropped a few of the extra pounds. Either way, that isn’t something I think anyone should be concerned about.
3) Did anyone figure out who the receiver was in the blue gloves?
4) I’m concerned we don’t even have enough linebacker prospects on our immediate radar to fill the considerable need at that position.
5) None of the DB’s did anything to really get on my radar.
My .02
2. He needed to lose a little bid of the bad weight he came in with. This is a good thing.
4. I think we have 3 that we should feel good about (Jones, Ownukaife, Mizell) but I agree
5. The only DB’s we need now are Joyner and Mitchell. We already have 2 corners and a safety.
re: my .02
2. I agree, I was just saying I wasn’t worried about it since it was going to happen.
4. Let’s hope so. In an ideal world, fsu would get all or almost all of its major targets. I’m of the opinion that LB might be the shallowest position on the team, so FSU cannot afford to come up short this cycle.
5. Agree.
Are you talking about the WR with the dreads who's name we couldn't figure out?
if so I think that was Patrick Harris, a teammate of Jeff Luc.
That's where we went wrong in '08.
Mickey has studied the film, consulted with other prestigious defensive minds, and is knows how to defend Paul Johnson’s spread attack. Our team was too tired last year. An extra hour of sleep spread over 6 weeks will have our D rested and ready to chase down Dwyer from behind.
when you have an early entries what does that say about the players greads.
I didnt know if most kids can do this or if this is something they work hard to do to get into college faster.
As for the Lb I dont know much about them. I think we need to hit hard and fast with them. We need them to see what we have and where we are going. This might be Jimbos last year to be on the road so he might want to go to the LB himself. I think you are right we need to hit a homerun here and if we can get 2 out of the 4 I would be happy.
Its funny looking at this stuff because playing NCAA and going through to recruiting time makes me wonder why I have to go to TX and Fl to get the best players.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
NCAA 10
I dont really like it, its too easy to turnover. I fumble like twice a quarter and if i just try to protect the ball i dont break any tackles.
Are you like the man at NCAA since you know so much about college football?
by noleinvaldosta on Jul 22, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
No, rarely have time to play haha.
I’m like a level 7.
by Bud Elliott on Jul 22, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I had to throw away my NCAA's because I couldn't stop playing them on dynasty.
My goal was to not allow a touchdown for the entire season. The least I think I ever allowed was 4 or 5. 91 total yards allowed per game was my average.
" And He drank the world's sin so He could carry you in, and give you life"
Ahhh...
But thats when you bump it up to Heisman and play as the worst team you can find. I’m currently 3-0 as Utah State (terrible) and just beat BYU.
As a side note, on NCAA BYU lost to Florida State 36-3. . . maybe they know something we don’t? Also it makes me wonder how well the NCAA games can predict upcoming seasons? – End Tangent
by freshcollegeboy on Jul 22, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
A player can enroll early as long as they meet all the requirements for college entrance and high school graduation. They could have a C average but completed all their course work so they would be eligible for EE.
by evenflow58 on Jul 22, 2009 10:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
They deserve each other.
Louis Nix (DT, Miami commit) looked powerful but not in the best of shape. He also acts like a punk out on the field. Kid has some character issues he needs to work out.
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em
So what are the points for these camps.
Is it just a recruiting tool or is there really more to them. I dont understand why we ask kids that are commits to other schools to come. I look at it as a waist of money and time for all.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
I stand corrected
Yet another DB. No way Rashad Knight gets an offer unless we lose one of LJ or Mitchell, right?
I think he'd be more likely to get burried on the depth chart at Safety
Whereas on offense you can always use another playmaker. There will be more opportunity for him to contribute WR. IMO in 2010 we’ll be stacked at the Safety position and even more so in 2011. His versatility will come in handy I think
Personally, I'm glad he's at WR and not safety.
That gives us room for some of the other talent at DB.
I'm starting to notice that as a trend
and i’m tending to think the same thing. He’s a solid prospect that can play a number of positions but we have people ahead of him on our board at every position he plays. A lot of people feel like he throws our numbers off.
The hit on Eddie Williams in his video at 4:51, check it out
Although not sure why its on there as he was the recipient, vicious nonetheless!
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
Filling it in
QB Jeff Godrey
RB Brandon Gainer
RB Gio Bernard
RB Debrale Smiley
WR De’Joshua Johnson
WR Christian Green
WR Kenny Shaw
WR Jared Haggins
H-Back Neil Basford
OL Ed Christian
OL Some dude we haven’t heard of
WDE Corey Miller
WDE/SDE David Perry
SDE/DT Tavaris Barnes
SDE/DT Darious Cummings
SDE/DT Brandon Willis
DT/NG Amp McCloud
DT/NG Damien Jacobs
OLB Christian Jones
OLB Telvin Smith (I don’t think UGA has room; if they do, he is UGA)
MLB Jeff Luc
LB Holmes Onwukaife
CB Merril Noel
CB Terrence Brooks
CB Terrence Mitchell
CB/S Lamarcus Joyner
S Chad Abrams
CJ Mizell counts toward this year’s class, doesn’t he? If not, add him in.
Only reaches are Luc, TSmith, and Perry.
Interesting
I think Tank Sessions for TE. Basford wants to be a Gator.
Perry, eh, everyone has cooled.
Nigel Terrell is probably ours if he doesn’t get a big-2 offer.
Other than that, this is exactly how I see it.
I doubt Basford gets an offer from UF.
I don’t really want him.
I reached with Perry, I don’t think we’ll fill that spot.
I think AU will offer him.
If we take that Gonzalez kid over Godfrey, I will be pissed.
As long as he gets in for Jan he'll count towards the 2009 25
ditto for Corey Miller and Brandon Willis and if you’re correct about Jeff Luc (and Bryan Stork) → according the roster and eligibility tracker we only had 17 fall 09 players (not counting the Jan enrollees for the 09 class b/c we didn’t hit 25 for 08 – didn’t count the exact number, but it was below). So we can get up to 8 Jan enrollees and still get another 25 for the fall (as long as we are still below the 83 max for us).
Lattimore?
You don’t think he is gonna make it or you like the others better?
by DesiNole on Jul 22, 2009 6:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Read his interview on tharinger today, says would love to go to same school with the other 2 Byrnes kids. Hopefully miller & Willis (once he commits) influence him.
by DesiNole on Jul 22, 2009 7:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Juco
Has anyone heard from mccloud or smiley? How close are they to enrolling in spring? Is it a done deal?
by DesiNole on Jul 22, 2009 7:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would love this class an unhealthy amount
I like Perry a lot. Smart + raw = great potential in a 6’7" frame.
He's just a physical monster.
Another pet peeve: When a prospect is 15 or 16, and is in the 6’0’’ – 6’2’’ range, why do people assume that he will grow three more inches? Maybe it’s just me, but I didn’t grow that much after I turned 16; maybe an inch (I’m 6’1’’).
I grew 6 1/2 inches after 16 (I am 6'1'')
so there is really no reason to assume growth or not, just wait and see.
Yeah it varies from person to person
I’ve been the same height since I was 14. Completely thrashed my hoop dreams :-/ lol. But I guess people just like to guess because you literally never know. Some people can have freakish growth spurts. Back to Hunter though, I like this kid a lot. Lowndes could be like a second home for us for years to come.
I also grew one inch after I turned 16
And now I’m 5’6"
PARENTS GENES = FAIL
by freshcollegeboy on Jul 22, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
no
I’m actually taller than both of them at 21 lol :)
Oh yeah and the tallest member of my family is one of my uncle’s at 6’1
and he’s adopted (yes I know you’re laughing now)
So maybe I’ll rephrase it to:
PARENTS GENES= WIN
FAMILY TREE = FAIL
by freshcollegeboy on Jul 22, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Great job guys
That is a massive amount of information. Well done!
Great stuff, as always
On Louis Nix: kid had earphones in the whole time. Major pet peeve of mine. He was not impressive in my eyes, playing or not playing.
On Kenny Shaw: Bona fide stud in my book. Talked to his dad a bit, seems like a very solid family. Should look great in G&G
by NoleThruandThru on Jul 22, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions
I can't say enough good things about the Showtime coverage from everyone who contributed.
I’m seriously blown away. I’m in the middle of a three-week period in which I have extremely limited time to access information (none at all last week or next week), and I feel like I was at the event. I’d go on and on, but I can’t. Truly guys, highest props all around.
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