Getting Ready for 2009!!! A preview of the wide receivers. A group loaded with talent but yet still have to prove themselves. Reed, Easterling, Fortson, Goodman, Givens, and Piurowski. Go Noles!!
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This receiver corp is loaded and if they work had (I’m sure they will) then we can definitely an improved passing game.
3 Starters:
- Taiwan Easterling: If he is anywhere close to 100% we all know what he is capable of since we have seen him. Lets hope he gets his endurance back because we will need his sure hands.
- Jarmon Fortson: We will be in need of a big, physical possession receiver. Fortson looks to fit this bill and has an enormous amount of talent. He will need to learn how to put himself in position on the field in order to succeed. I expect this to happen.
- Bert Reed: He has a ton of potential and I hope he will put in equal work off the field to match his incredible skill set. If that happens I expect improvement for him.
2 upcoming guys:
- Willie Haulstead: (Freshman) While he is a freshman and I have not seen him I have heard that is a great blocking receiver. If this is the case I believe we will see him on the field quite a bit. Coach Dawsey loves tough receivers who do all the little things right. Coupled with the fact that Corey Surrency, undoubtedly our best blocking receiver, is gone this will give Haulstead an opportunity to see action early.
- Rodney Smith: (Freshman) Again I went with another freshman because I think he is physically ready to play. Unless something happens he shouldn’t see too much time, but he should be huge in key situations like the red-zone. If he caught a fifth of the balls Carr caught in the red-zone he would be a boost for us. Simply put he is a mismatch for any cornerback he faces.
by PJVNolefan on Jul 3, 2009 12:33 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think Smith needs a redshirt
Very talented, but extremely raw, doesn’t know how to run routes, played in a very non-passing system, and against pretty poor competition.
I’m a big Jarmon fan.
That may be the case
However his size is a huge factor, but say if Avis Commack steps up I am all for it.
Commack's body control is a thing of beauty
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He’s just gotta better himself in blocking, routes…..other stuff I can’t think of right now…..
by pillsburysoldier on Jul 3, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I also love Jarmon's potential.
I think he could be our break out player this year. He is big and physical, and moves well for is size.
Well some people think we are going to have problems with passing
I dont think problems would be the word I would use. I think we have a great group of WR. Young maybe but great none the less. We had a young o-line last year and they turned out great IMO. I think the same will happen this year with the WR but not because of them but because of Jimbo. the plays he calls, the way her runs will set everything up for the passing game. This wont be a brake out year but it will be a good year. its time we brake back into that top 15 group and go fight for our ACC back If our Def. dont want to at least we know our Off will.
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I'm not to worried here...
I really like Reed…He just seems to be able to make defenders miss.
Wow, I catch for Goodman, and not all that impressive (i know he’s had more, just funny that there was only 1 in the video).
Seems like we have some nice speed there, especially with Reed, Givens, and Thompson .
He redshirted last year with a Broken leg
He’s our best wideout when healthy according to people who watch practice ;)
Yeah, didn't mean to downplay him...I remember thinking he was pretty good a couple of seasons back.
Wasn’t he hurt for part of 2007 also?
Let’s hope he can get past this legal trouble and make it to the field. Any update on that issue?
Sad thing is I think this video included every decent passing play for the 2008 season...
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I thought the same thing.
Seminoles.com has him listed as a Senior too.
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Aside from getting a little psyched about the receivers, the one thing that really sticks out to me in this
video, is that Surrency’ s blocking will surely be missed.
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by FrankDNole on Jul 3, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
All you need is TIME
Ponder looks so much better when he has time to drop back in the pocket, find a receiver and deliver (it’s true-most quarterbacks do haha). That is what stands out the most to me in the video. His foot work is much more precise when he doesn’t have the pocket collapsing in too quickly around him. Still has kind of jittery feet but is able to get them set fairly well and deliver a nice ball. I’m not trying to give him all the credit. Some of the passes were still a bit off and the WRs really showed just how talented they can be coming down with some nice grabs (Easterling at the back the end zone? Anyone?). If he gets the kind of time that he needs, it could result in some very long games for our opponents secondaries. But if (I really, REALLY hope not) for whatever reason our O-line still has trouble with pass blocking, look for another mediocre year with the mid to long range passing attack.
I don’t have a problem with bubble screens. They were our bread and butter last year (as can be seen in the video). But it seemed like we had to employ them so much because of the QB pocket problem. I look forward to seeing an established conventional air attack and using the bubble screen to catch our opponents off guard for some huge plays. There is plenty of skill and speed at the WR spot. The question will be how much have the mechanics improved; O-line giving QB time, QB delivering nice balls, and precise WR routes. Our offense gets that down, and we will have a highlight video much longer than 6:39.
I can’t wait for the Ponder passing video. FSUn, I hope you include the good AND the bad. It will be nice to compare the improvement he has made from last year to this year.
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Ponder looks so much better when he has time to drop back in the pocket, find a receiver and deliver (it’s true-most quarterbacks do haha). That is what stands out the most to me in the video. His foot work is much more precise when he doesn’t have the pocket collapsing in too quickly around him. Still has kind of jittery feet but is able to get them set fairly well and deliver a nice ball. I’m not trying to give him all the credit. Some of the passes were still a bit off and the WRs really showed just how talented they can be coming down with some nice grabs (Easterling at the back the end zone? Anyone?). If he gets the kind of time that he needs, it could result in some very long games for our opponents secondaries. But if (I really, REALLY hope not) for whatever reason our O-line still has trouble with pass blocking, look for another mediocre year with the mid to long range passing attack.
I really think this is accurate. When watching the film of these games, that’s what we are finding as we go back and watch these films. His footwork isn’t great, but our line didn’t handle the pass rush well at all.
I don’t have a problem with bubble screens. They were our bread and butter last year (as can be seen in the video). But it seemed like we had to employ them so much because of the QB pocket problem. I look forward to seeing an established conventional air attack and using the bubble screen to catch our opponents off guard for some huge plays. There is plenty of skill and speed at the WR spot. The question will be how much have the mechanics improved; O-line giving QB time, QB delivering nice balls, and precise WR routes. Our offense gets that down, and we will have a highlight video much longer than 6:39.
You need to read this on bubbles: http://smartfootball.blogspot.com/2008/01/constraint-theory-of-offense.html
Contraint THIS!
Great, concise article on constraint theory. Thanks for the link. So do you believe Fisher worked the screens in as a result of defenses starting to react to a good running game not crap pass blocking? It certainly wasn’t efficient drop back passing. As the running game should be even better, it is possible to see more bubble screens. With improved pass blocking hopefully we could also see effective play action passes used as constraint plays as well.
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Simplification
Ponder was very good at pre-snap reads and checking us into the right play. Whether a team is accounting for the bubble, or not, is quite easy to determine.
I can’t stress this enough: we didn’t have any REGULAR passing plays we could run because we simply could not block them. The pass blocking was that bad. So we resorted to a lot of constraint/ regulator stuff and still led the conference in scoring.
In the video above look at ponder
Most of the plays he takes the snap and starts running out the pocket right off the bat then is throwing on the run. He wasnt even staying in the pocket to see if it would crumble because he know it would. The think I dont like about that is that takes the flats out for the RB’s so they have to go somewhere else. But at least it gave hims a little more time.
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I never asked this but about the bubble
How hard of a catch is it than a slant or some other passes. It seems more like a toss or an eazy catch. Might that be something to take in consideration.
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I am not worried about our recievers this year because passing will be secondary.
We have plenty of talent, but a huge void in experience. You can’t build an offense around inconsistant route running. Timing is crucial in a pass first offense. Fortunatly, our running game should be strong enough to dictate the coverages we see and we will have the pass-catching talent to exploit it. I don’t expect to see many 300 yard passing games, but we could have some great individual performances.
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