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Florida State Wednesday Open Recruiting Thread 07.08.09

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ADDED:

  •  Corey Lemonier, DE.

REMOVED:

  • Zach Allen, LB, committed to Wake Forest.  Impact?  Zero, we weren't recruiting him.
  • Nate Askew, TE.  Committed elsewhere.  Impact?  Minimal
  • Davis Dudchock, HBACK, committed to Vanderbilt.  Impact?  Slight.  He's a good prospect.
  • Kendrum Malcolme, RB, committed to Georgia. Impact?  This week, minimal, as he had eliminated us some time ago and we should have removed him a while back,
  • Antonio Goodwin, WR, no interest.  
  • Kendal Moore, LB.  Impact:  medium- heavy.  We need three linebackers in this class.  Moore could have been one and he is a very good player.

 

 Come inside for a GREAT video series, notes, ect.

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NOTES:

  • Christian Green is coming up for the Bobby Bowden Camp soon and will also be at Showtime.
  • Speaking of Showtime, Lamarcus Joyner is confirmed.
  • Joyner is also visiting Tennessee the same game (October 4th, Auburn) as Jeff Luc.  Hmm.
  • Elliot Porter and Damien Jacobs (two DTs from Louisiana) are supposed to make visits in the next couple of weeks.  I think Porter goes to LSU and if Jacobs gets an offer from the Tigers, he will join Porter.  If not, the 'Noles look good.  Both will be at Showtime, we think.  
  • We are working on getting a full Showtime list and will have something very special for our readers as the camp approaches.
  • Pahokee will be at Showtime, as FSUncensored confirmed with Chris Dunkley.
  • We seem to be in decent shape for Marcus Lattimore, though he will not be at showtime.
  • Speaking of Byrnes high, we will see Corey Miller and Brandon Willis at Seminole Showtime
  • WR prospect and member of the Miami Central trio Josh Reese named us his leader.  Someone needs to clarify this kid's grades issue.  Some believe he is an early entrant candidate, others think he's a qualifying risk.
  • The other two of the trio should be at Showtime (we think)
  • Ole Miss leads for DT Shawn Green.  Green is a good prospect.
  • WR Kenny Shaw will be at showtime for sure.  
  • WR Christian Green is a lock for Showtime and we continue to believe he will be a 'Nole.
  • We look very, very good for Christian Jones and he will be at showtime.
  • Do not expect Corey Lemonier in this class.  Longshot.  Still not sure if he'll be at showtime.
  • Christian Jones and Leff Luc should put on a show at showtime.
  • CB Tyler Hunter (2011 kid) will be at Showtime.  He's from Valdosta.

VIDEO:

Glades Central vs Miami Central Spring Game (via marken56) - 5 Parts.  THIS IS OUTSTANDING FOOTAGE.

PART 1

 

PART 2

 

PART 3

 

PART 4

 

PART 5

 

2011 target Karlos Williams (younger brother of current FSU linebacker Vince Williams)


Karlos Williams (via SunshinePreps)

Karlos has early verbal offers from teams such as FSU, UF, UGA, and Tennessee.  He is clearly one of the Sunshine State's top prospects for the class of 2011.  His dad is a huge FSU fan and his brother, Vince, is a current linebacker here.  We are in great shape early.



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by nolefan07 on Jul 8, 2009 6:11 AM EDT reply actions  

CTC

fails again? Wasn’t Kendall Moore one of his targets? Think he stays in state or headed to play for Charlie “Cheeseburger” Weis?

by CSI Nole on Jul 8, 2009 9:04 AM EDT reply actions  

So does FSU sign any LBs this year?

or does Amato leave FSU with nothing at the LB spot for a 2nd time?

It sounds like if we miss out on one of Jones, Luc, or Smith, then we are in trouble at the LB spot.

by noles55 on Jul 8, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I could live with Jones and Smith or Luc...

but if it is Jones and plan c, that is an issue

by noles55 on Jul 8, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree...

I am not a fan of JUCO, but it is better than no depth which FSU has had too often at a few spots. In particular, the defensive front 7 (an area where depth is most important IMHO).

by noles55 on Jul 8, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone really believe Mizell makes it?

I keep hearing this as the solution to our LB recruiting and I can’t buy it. Far too often the kids that don’t make it the first time don’t make it at all.

I hope I am wrong. Anyone really know or is it guessing?

by noles55 on Jul 8, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will feel much better believing you....

but I think you can understand the hesitation with all the past players who didn’t qualify.

But if Mizell makes it, that is a huge win for FSU.

by noles55 on Jul 8, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can absolutely understand the hesitation

and I am the least optomistic guy on players almost ever (see the Willie Downs thread) and obviously you don’t know me so some anonymous guy is just saying this, but I feel good about it, personally.

by SWFLNole. on Jul 8, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gainer is #12, he's the back.

Reese is the shorter of the two wideouts for central. Godfrey is the qb

by Bud Elliott on Jul 8, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Some Names and Numbers

Glades Central

  1. Greg Dent
  2. Kelvin Benjamin (2011)
  3. Clive Walford
  4. Robert Way (2012) 6’2" 180ish <—- One to watch in the future

Miami Central

  1. Charles “CJ” Gaines Jr. (2011)
  2. Jeff Godfrey
  3. Derrick Knowles (2011)
  4. Brandon Gainer
  5. Miles Pace (2011) huge now may end up with hand in dirt
  6. Josh Reese

by Luke S. on Jul 8, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow.

It totally changed my numbers around. Dent 5, Benjamin 11, Walford 14, Gaines Jr. 1, Godfrey 3, Knowles 10, Gainer 12, Pace 14, Reese 19

by Luke S. on Jul 8, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Likes Miami and UF.

I thought he was supposed to make it up to Showtime.

by FSUSOM on Jul 8, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too bad

That is a fantastic looking WR prospect. Hopefully we dominate Miami this year and they continue their downward spiral while we continue our climb back to prominence, then will see where he stands next spring.

Defense is not the problem, but will it be this year?

by badknees81 on Jul 8, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

We've offered this kid for the class of 2011:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCaEAaCgg6Y

Serderius Bryant, SS/LB from Seminole HS (Sanford FL)

He’s 5’10’’ 205. I expect him to recruited as a SS.

We look real good for him.

by FSUSOM on Jul 8, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

though, after about half, I stopped watching...

The problem is he didn’t have to make any moves to put himself in postion, he ran straight there untouched.

by jasonole59 on Jul 8, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

So who do we look good for to commit soon

Hopefully at the Seminole Showtime Camp…Joyner? Jones?

by ChileanNole on Jul 8, 2009 12:04 PM EDT reply actions  

If you listen to genron, don't expect Joyner.

According to Shaw’s latest interview with ThaRinger, I wouldn’t expect it. I suppose the two legacies are the most likely (Christian Green and Christian Jones)? Maybe Gainer.

Just wants to beat the Gators

by DA-2 on Jul 8, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

We should expect news the Monday after, if there is any, correct? That would be July 20.

Just wants to beat the Gators

by DA-2 on Jul 8, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would expect some news monday too

Yea I dont think Joyner will pull the switch yet, but there were rumors flying that he would…they even mentioned it on tharinger (although they said that it was highly unlikely)

Hopefully Haggins, Jones, Green and Gainer. That would be pretty solid. If Willis and Miller join then I would be extremly happy

by ChileanNole on Jul 8, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I just didn't know if we'd be able to land 2 guys that highly thought of.

I though maybe if we took one, then we’d have to pick someone further down the list.

I remember someone stating that Lattimore would probably not go to Auburn if they got a commitment from (some other top back – don’t remember the name).

by jasonole59 on Jul 8, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe its a USCe/FSU battle

With UNC and possibly UGA at 3rd and 4th

by CSI Nole on Jul 8, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

UGA is out of it

Lattimore said it himself. Couldn’t see himself living in Athens

by NIU on Jul 9, 2009 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

A little clarification

I’ve never really cared to ask about Showtime, but now seeing as how serious it seems to be in the recruiting process, would someone mind explaining what exactly goes on? Someone said earlier something about recruits “performing” or something?

by HeedNole on Jul 8, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

It's just a big camp

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jul 8, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coaches are

allowed to offer “camps” and such. Showcase, from what I understand, is just a mini-camp where FSU invites in top prospects all at one time. “Performing” is some simple drills they run the players through.

by Wild@Heart Nole on Jul 8, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks guys.

ok, so who is the Donnie Jenert guy? looks pretty impressive to me. Also, Dunkley is a freak of a specimen.

by HeedNole on Jul 8, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

And if you join the ThaRinger.com forums.

Don’t let the Canes fans sucker you in. They’re convinced that Brandon Gainer and Chad Abrams are crap. One even tried saying that UM and FSU’s attendance were comparable. Yeah, if you think 31,000 difference is close (Noles 77,000; Canes 46,000). But it is definitely a great way to keep up to date with everyone’s recruiting. The Gators are pretty up to date, and their fans are actually good.

Just wants to beat the Gators

by DA-2 on Jul 8, 2009 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Are their boards pretty active

I have been looking for other boards since being banned from WC and no longer having access to the MB

by ChileanNole on Jul 8, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, lots of fans from the Big 3.

Which means you are going to have relevant topics.

by FSUSOM on Jul 8, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very good point.

There’s a lot of talk of Christian Green, Jeff Luc, Eduardo Clements/Brandon Gainer on their because of the carryover. There’s also so OSU fans, so there’s some Joyner talk as well.

Just wants to beat the Gators

by DA-2 on Jul 8, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice

Then I’ll probably join and be more active…can never get too much recruiting talk.

by ChileanNole on Jul 8, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK.....who is the top 10 must gets that we have a shot at getting?

I apologize for my ignorance but the fickle nature of recruiting doesn’t appeal to me and I don’t follow very closely so I do not know who are the must-gets of the leaning recruits.

by diablonole on Jul 8, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Roughly

Joyner
Christian Jones
Christian Green
Brandon Willis
Corey Miller
Brandon Gainer (for me)
Terrence Mitchell
Jeff Luc (I do not think we get him)
CJ Mizell (if he make it back)

Check Big Board for more on these names. We look great for most of them.

I’ll have a think and get back to you.

by FSUSOM on Jul 8, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just a gut, I think he's a Gator.

Strong stays = Gator

Strong leaves = Noles

And I think Strong stays long enough. Luc is an EE.

by FSUSOM on Jul 8, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

We may get lucky

Strong just might leave considering how high his stock is (and probably will be in January), some job will open up that might be able to lure him away. I think Luc will be up for grabs until the last moment and i’m hoping his brother being an FSU alum/fan will help us at least a little.

by truenole87 on Jul 8, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strong's Stock has been Snoop Dogg High for a while

It amazes me he never gets a look at a job. I always thought he got the short end of the stick being a black coach in the SEC, but not too long ago he came out and was basically told he might have gotten a job by now if his wife wasn’t white. I was shocked his name wasn’t even brought up by Auburn or Miss State. Give him a year and he could be the head coach at Miami though. That would really suck lol.

by osceolafan850 on Jul 8, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we finish third

not that worried. Mizell will make it back, Jones and then a LB to be named later.

by SWFLNole. on Jul 8, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mark Wilson perhaps?

I’d rather have Luc, but I wouldn’t be terribly disappointed in Wilson.

by FSUSOM on Jul 8, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wilson is SOLID to Illinois.

Hey you or FSUn know anything about a kid name Tre Boston. 6’1’ CB from like 20 minutes from where I grew up (N. Ft.Myers). Expressing FSU interest, lots of Big 10 offers. Might make a call on it.

by SWFLNole. on Jul 8, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm interested

Ht: 6-foot-1
Wt: 175 lbs
Forty: 4.41 secs
Shuttle: 4.16 secs

I can’t find film.

by FSUSOM on Jul 8, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some thoughts

Definitely not 6’1. Listed on ESPN as 5’11, but may be shorter.

He better be top notch at corner.

ESPN has bad film.

Based off that, I wouldn’t take him. But this may be a Greg Dent situation, decent at WR, but good at DB.

by FSUSOM on Jul 8, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's not a WR at the next level if he wants to go to a big school

Wish I could have seen him at DB instead of all offense/mostly QB

by SWFLNole. on Jul 8, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

soft verbal

That could change if FSU or any other in state school offers.

by CSI Nole on Jul 9, 2009 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sort of

N.Ft Myers is a seperate city from Ft.Myers that is attached by a bridge. They are also quite different economically. We used to say N. Ft Myers “home of hicks, hoes, and Deion Sanders” but I guess you could add Jevon Kearse and Noel Devine.

by SWFLNole. on Jul 8, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone here collect memorabilia?

If (not 100% sure) I make the trip to Seminole Showtime, I plan on taking some items to try and get autographed. Anyone else thinking the same?

by CSI Nole on Jul 8, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Dan Schneider

Looks like WVU has him wrapped up. He’s making a second trip back to Morgantown later this month.

by gahnki on Jul 8, 2009 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn.

I really hoped for Schneider in this class. I could settle for Basford but Schneider would fit the H-back role PERFECTLY.

by NoleThruandThru on Jul 8, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

To spark some discussion

Who were some players that should have been ‘Noles, but for whatever reason, weren’t?

I’ll start.

  • S Phillip Thomas – Amato completely botched this one. No excuses. None. We knew Downs had no chance long before this, and we also knew Starling wasn’t coming. Ridiculous.
  • WR Andre Debose – Even though he wasn’t our #1 target at WR, he is great talent (though no Harvin, not even close). If we had stayed on him the entire year (made a push), I think he would have been a Nole.
  • CB Patrick Johnson (Peterson) – Of course, $75,000 from LSU made his decision a little easier. A little known fact: After committing to LSU, PJP made a late January visit to FSU, and committed to our coaches. You know how the coaches found out he was going to LSU? Media reports.
  • Janoris Jenkins – I think we learned our lesson with Muck corners. Kid wanted to be a Nole very, very badly. His mother even talked to the coaches. Now we get to face him for three more years.

I’ll think of some more.

by FSUSOM on Jul 8, 2009 11:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Those Muck kids sure love FSU.

I can’t believe we don’t pump that pipeline more. And I did not know that about Johnson. That sucks!

Just wants to beat the Gators

by DA-2 on Jul 9, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does suck

I was not aware of Janoris Jenkins… who was responsible in his recruitment?

by CSI Nole on Jul 9, 2009 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would you say 2010 is the most organized effort we've made yet?

We have our targets, and we’re on them? I know it’s way early, but…

Just wants to beat the Gators

by DA-2 on Jul 9, 2009 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its only going to get better IMO

After this season when we hire new defensive coaches. I can’t wait to hear South Florida DB’s say “Terrell Buckley” in response to the question: “What coaches have been in contact with you the most?” lol. I like Jimbo’s overall approach and I think he’s just warming up.

by truenole87 on Jul 9, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree...

I like our recruiting efforts to date. It will only get better when Andrews and Amato are long gone.

by CSI Nole on Jul 9, 2009 2:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Thomas still bugs me.

Had we shown just a little bit of interest he comes here. CTC strikes (out) again.

by CFCNole on Jul 10, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

To critique myself

we did get Greg Reid, and didn’t know our scholarship losses at the time.

by Bud Elliott on Jul 13, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good news for you guys that Christian Green isn’t attending FNL. That’s a pretty clear indicator.

by gahnki on Jul 9, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I doubt he makes it through SS without committing, its time for our class to get rolling.

I genuinely believe we’ll have a top 3 class this season, the talent we could reel in is simply amazing.

by truenole87 on Jul 9, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

22204

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