'Nole Your Enemy: The Boston College Eagle's Offense
We continue our " 'Nole Your Enemy" Series with Boston College. We started with South Florida (Offense, Defense) and continued with BYU's Offense and Defense.
On October 3rd, the 'Noles will travel to Chetnutt Hill to face the Boston College Eagles. Last year, BC got the best of the 'Noles in Tallahassee, 27-17. The year before that, FSU beat BC at their place and eliminated the Eagles from National Title Contention (remember that they had Matt Ryan in 2007). The year before that, BC beat FSU in Tallahassee (the day game where Weatherford threw the horrible pick-6 right before the half).
But how good was last year's BC offense and how good will they be this year?
On offense, Boston College was not great, but they weren't as bad as you might think.
The Fremeau Efficiency Index calls them the 43rd rated offense, while Bill Connelley's S&P+ measure says they were the 46th. That's very close. Remember that these measures adjust for opponent, so BC doesn't get a lot of credit for torching cupcakes, and they don't get offensive credit when their defense scores. They also don't credit teams for scoring in garbage time. Let's have a look:
FSU had the best offense in the conference, arguably, though this meausre has Georgia Tech a bit better. Boston College's was sort of middle of the road.
Here's Bill Connelley's measure (100 is considered average, so over 100 is good, under 100 is not):
FSU had the best offense in the conference by this measure. Boston College's was sort of middle of the road.
Here's a look at their passing game:
Hmm, it seems that BC's passing game was pretty average.
Here's their run game:
So Boston College's rushing game was pretty average as well.
I'll save you the charts, but their performance in conference games was about the same. That doesn't really matter though, because the above metrics adjust for opponent (playing a cupcake won't help the above numbers because of the opponent adjustment). Still you can check out that link if you want.
The Eagles lost up and coming star coach Jeff Jagodzinski, who was fired after flirting with the NFL. That's a smart move for Boston College, because Jags is a very hot commodity and would have left soon anyways. He got a lot out of his players and his team outperformed the expectations of everyone. The Eagles also lost highly respected Offensive Coordinator and Quarterbacks Coach, Steve Logan. Both are not with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Replacing Jagodzinski is longtime defensive coordinator Frank Spaziani. More on him later. Replacing Logan is Gary Tranquil, who was born in 1940. At one time, he was a decent offensive coach, but he's been out of the college game for 4 years. Where Logan was excellent and really took advantage of his player's talents and opposing defenses, Tranquil is not highly thought of. He runs a pro-style offense, does not spread teams out, and does not utilize his quarterback in the run game at all. His schemes are simple and from a purely schematic standpoint, Florida State defensive coordinator Mickey Andrews should own him. They are also abandoning their zone blocking scheme. Tranquil's offense is literally what Mickey Andrew's defense is designed to stop. See for yourself:
| FSU's Defense | Total Off. | Rushing | Passing | |||||||||||||
| Opponent Type | PPG | Plays | Yds | Per Play | No | Net | YPC | TFL's | Att | Comp | Yds | TD | Int | Sacks | Dropbacks/ Sacks | QB Rating |
| Pro-Style | 19 | 65 | 270 | 4.1 | 31 | 83 | 2.6 | 10 | 34 | 17 | 187 | 1.2 | 1.2 | 4.3 | 8.8 | 100 |
| Decidedly Not Pro-Style | 28 | 60 | 385 | 6.4 | 39 | 235 | 6.0 | 7 | 20 | 11 | 151 | 1.5 | 0.5 | 0.8 | 28 | 138 |
What I am trying to say is that Tranquil is a huge downgrade from Logan, but against FSU, it's an even bigger downgrade. Last year, BC used the threat of the QB run to hurt FSU's defense, including a 16 play (all rushing)- 67 yard drive, consuming 8:55 of the clock and icing the game (ended in a field goal). They literally ran the same play over and over again. FSU's defense was so poorly taught under lame duck coaches Mickey Andrews and Chuck Amato, that they let BC run some variation of the same play for at least 10 of those snaps. In any case, what we're hearing out of BC's camp is that the Eagles will run a pro-style attack featuring two backs. That will be juuuuust fine with the 'Noles.
Quarterback
Under center, The Eagles lost Chris Crane, who was inconsistent but not terrible. They also lost Dominique Davis, who failed out of school and has since transferred. Davis wasn't very good anyways, so that's not a big deal. In keeping with the elderly theme will be Dave Shinskie, a 25 year-old Pocket passer who played minor league baseball. He hasn't played football in 6 years. More on him here. I project him to be a decent passer, because he was a decent prospect coming out of high school. He's not a run threat, however, and that's really what the 'Noles care about. Seeing that he's a freshman, but older than this author, his maturity might mean that he won't be a huge downgrade. Of course, he also hasn't worked with these wideouts all off-season and been in the system at all.
Our friends at BC Interruption helped us out a bit here and Brian had this to add:
There is some serious talk about true freshman Michael Marscovetra starting. He has had as good of a summer as any other candidate and has good arm strength. I think the deciding factor will be Shinskie's maturity though and his effect in the huddle. Notable how far Justin Tuggle has slid down the depth chart, but as you point out, Tranquill/Spaz favor the pro-style pocket passer to the Tuggle/Davis, running-QB mold that Jags/Logan recruited. Just hope that Tuggle can be used in another way (message board chatter has been throw him in at LB just like his dad?).
I really don't know much about Marscovetra.
Offensive Line
Boston College has a great offensive line. We talk a lot about how good FSU's O-Line can be, but I am here to tell you that BC's line is every bit as good. This is one of the best offensive lines in the country. They return all 5 starters. This is an excellent group. People make a big deal about his "big" these guys are, but they really aren't huge.
LT Anthony Castonzo (6-7, 287, Jr.)
RT Rich Lapham (6-8, 322, Jr.)
LG Thomas Claiborne (6-3, 323, Jr.)
RG Emmett Cleary (6-7, 270, R-Fr.)
C Matt Tennant (6-4, 294, Sr.)
Castonzo is a likely NFL 1st day pick (2nd rounder, maybe 1st, probably 2011 draft). He is an excellent pass blocker and is pretty quick. FSU's defensive end will have a tough time doing much against him. Lapham is obviously huge at right tackle. He is a very good run blocker but has bad feet and is a liability in pass protection. Not an NFL player. At Left Guard, Claiborne is an ex-defensive tackle who was excellent last year. He was 3rd team ALL-ACC last year and should be even better this year. Claiborne is an NFL player provided he keeps his weight in check. At Left Guard, Cleary is the newcomer to the group. He could be good eventually and was a tackle coming out of high school, but he's quite raw and will need to work on his back and knee bend to be any good. At Center, Tennant should be first team ACC. He's better than FSU's Ryan McMahon, though obviously less known. Don't get mad, FSU fans, I'm just giving it to you straight. BC has at least three NFL linemen who are probably 1st day (top 4 round) selections on their line. They return 4 starters and the line has 4 upperclassmen. This is an excellent offensive line and will make BC's skill position players look much better than they are. This isn't the most heralded unit in the country, but unless you judge offensive lines on things other than performance, talent, or experience, they should be. FSU will have one heckuva time against this unit.
Running Back
The Eagles look much better at running back. Montel Harris is their big back at 5' 10" 200. He had one heckuva game last year against the 'Noles as a freshman. He's not a home run threat, and this author thinks he's more of a product of BC's offensive line, but he does what is asked of him and grinds out tough yards. Last year he gained 900 yards on 179 carries (5 YPC), and caught 20 balls for 160 yards. The other back is Josh Haden, a scatback who gained 479 yards on 120 carries (4 YPC). He's 5'8" 182lbs, but should catch a few more balls this year. Blocking for these two is Senior James McClusky. He's 6'2" 250lbs and a mauler. He did hurt his Achilles in spring, however, and the Eagles desperately need him to be healthy this year as they utilize a 2-back attack. I fully expect Harris to get 200 carries this year, and also expect his average to drop a bit as other teams key on him more.
Wide Receiver/ Tight Ends
The Eagles aren't hurting much here either, but they aren't exactly loaded. They have to replace their best wideout and their best tight end, in Brandon Robinson and Ryan Purvis, respectively. Robinson caught 42 balls for 646 yards. Purvis snagged 24 for 176 yards. The Eagles do return Rich Gunnell, who was basically Robinson's equal in production, though far less explosive. Florida State's Patrick Robinson can easily handle him one on one without help (Robinson is CBS' #1 Draft Eligible Corner), and he'll be asked to as the 'Noles focus on stopping the run. They also have Justin Jarvis, who is 6'5" and was decently productive this year. Can Jarvis handle the increased role? That remains to be seen, but the Eagles are counting on him. The remaining guys are relatively unheralded wild cards. Junior Ifeanyi Momah is 6'6" 230 and caught 11 for 149 and 3TD's last season. He's their Greg Carr, except bulkier and about as fast as your average tight end. RsFr Clyde Lee had a decent spring I am told and could play some in the slot (though I suspect BC will not use many 3-wide sets). Finally, can Senior Clarence Megwa (6'1" 190) come back from a thought to be career-ending leg injury? If he can, BC will need him, because he started for them last year. Update: Megwa's leg is apparently healed, he's dealing with a hand injury and they expect him to be ready for the FSU game.
At tight end, 6'3" 250lb Soph Lars Anderson has a chance to be a very good pass catcher. Last year he snagged 9 balls for 85 yards. They also have Jordan McMichael, who was a very nice recruit in 2006 (I think), but has done nothing to date to impress anyone.
I don't think any of the draft eligible guys will get drafted. They really don't seem all that special. They aren't bad, but rather are just average college players.
Boston College's offense should not be as good as they were last year by the time FSU rolls into town. I believe that BC's offensive staff is now much worse than they were last year (think Jeff Bowden bad), and their quarterback hasn't played organized football in 6 years. By the end of the season this offense might be as good as they were last year, but this preview concerns the FSU-BC game, so I don't care about what the Eagles do later in the year. As noted above, their scheme plays right into FSU's hands. FSU will be able to use the schemes that made Mickey Andrews famous, single cover Gunnell with Robinson, and dare BC to throw. I expect this offense to lack explosiveness, and while FSU will probably be burned once or twice with play-action, FSU's full-commitment to stopping the running game should be well worth it.
Tomorrow: Taking a look at BC's defense.
For more on BC, see:
BC Interruption or Eagle in Atlanta
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I don't know about PRob vs Gunnell.
Last year PRob got flagged at least once maybe twice for PI after getting absolutely torched by the BC receivers.
One of the biggest gifts of the year for us
Is that BC is getting rid of zone blocking and spread elements. I swear I would immediately vomit if I saw them run a zone read against us again.
Swagger, Intensity, Execution
I almost vomit whenever I hear the words "Spread Offense"...
simply because I know Mickey has ZERO intentions of learning how to deal with it.
Intensity solves everything!
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I think
that you need to go run some laps and think about how your INTENSITY should be improved…
I was unsure when I was reading the latest report....
but was he saying they’re thinking about intensity while running laps? That’s what I got from it. I know we joke about it but good lord, I think he seriously thinks that’s the problem.
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Weatherford...pick 6
(shakes head)
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so as of right now FSUn what is the % we win this game.
Are we looking at a 75-85% or is it much lower. A good O-line is nice bu you have to have a few skilled players to work with. Also This is somthing I think we will see a lot this year. MA is going to go back to his root a few times this year. Hes going to see not just one Pro-style offense but more like 7+ as most of the ACC teams other than GT and NCST will run it.
Also If I seem out of it or talking a lot of crazy talk I had my tonsils removed today so Im all druged up on percocet.
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I'll be at the game
Funny piece of info on Claiborne… guy played for Wellesley High School which is rivals with my school in what is the longest running HS rivalry in the country. Anyway, as a sophomore he was their kicker and punter, at ~300 pounds.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
Great preview
As a BC guy, I have to say this is a very fair and balanced take on the BC ‘09-’10 team.
I also have serious concerns about Tranquil, but I’m hoping Spaz knows something we don’t. Well, a lot, actually…
Keep up the good work.
by BCMike22 on Aug 21, 2009 8:39 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Thanks BCMike!
Working on the defensive one now.
by Bud Elliott on Aug 21, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
O-line
You said they are returning all 5 starters, but one of the guys is a RS freshman. Am I missing something, or is that a mistake? I guess he could have won the job, but I didn’t get that impression.
OH YEAAHH!
by TBfisherman on Aug 21, 2009 1:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I understand the respect given for BC's Offensive Line
You said they’re abandoning their zone blocking and going back to man-to-man. The zone blocking and zone-read played havoc with our DL and forced our LBs to make good reads (FTL). If they’re going back to man-up style blocking, I think that is an advantage to our speedy guys who are pretty good at shedding blocks based on agility alone. That negates some of the advantages of having a good line, which plays, as you correctly put, right into MA’s hands.
So we know about size and how it matters
If Im getting this right there o-line is at about 1496lb. Where would they be placed at just based on there size. They have what looks to be a big o-line to me. they have some size on there with x2 guys at 320+ x1 at 300 and x1 at 270 and the other at 289. Where are we sitting with that. Im guessing we wont smash there O-line but we are going to need to try to get into the backfield and get to the QB or it might be a longer game than I thought.
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