Scouting Miami: A look into Mark Whipple- UM's new Offensive Coordinator
by Bud Elliott on Aug 28, 2009 12:49 PM EDT
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I was going to wait and run this later, but I can't wait. There are only 10 days until Miami. Many Hurricane fans are excited about their new offensive coordinator, Mark Whipple. Many FSU fans are worried because they don't know what he will run at Miami. But Florida State's coaches know, and we have a pretty good idea as well. How? By looking at Miami's available personnel and Whipple's past work.
Here's Whipple's Bio from Wikipedia:
Mark Whipple is the offensive coordinator for the University of Miami Hurricanes football team. Previously, he worked as a quarterback coach with the Pittsburgh Steelers and as an offensive assistant coach with the Philadelphia Eagles. Whipple had been an assistant coach in the NFL since 2004. Prior to joining the NFL he spent 16 years as a coach in Division I-AA football. The highlight of his college career was coaching Division I-AA University of Massachusetts, where he posted a record of 49-25 with two conference championships. He was coach of UMass from 1998-2003[1]. He won the NCAA Division I-AA national title in 1998. On January 25, 2007, he was let go by new Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin, and replaced with Ken Anderson. The next day, Whipple was hired by the Eagles.
Whipple is distinctly pro-style. He speaks often of his huge playbook and his experience in the pro ranks. He's had his players watch film of the Steelers and Eagles. I don't particularly think a huge playbook is important or even good, particularly at the college level where coaches have limited practice time and the players are transitioning from high-school. Whipple definitely won't have most of his offense installed by the time the Canes roll into Tallahassee, but it's a good bet they will have enough. Ultimately, that is Whipple's call. We decided to break down some old game film from his days at U-Mass, with the help of State Champion Offensive Coordinator and frequent Tomahawk Nation commentator, Oline01075. Here's what he had to say...
- They operate out of the Pro I, slot I, double tight I, twins offset I strong, flexed I (TE split), trips, wide bunch. These are not earth shattering sets.
- They don't use a lot of motion
- Unbalanced formations, offsets FB, split backs.
- Run plays: Toss (just like UGA, was go to play early in this game), (Iso), inside zone, counter trey, draw, shitty reverse
- Will run a play back to back if it's working
- Will feed the RB, likes physical style running game [Editor's Note: he had Marcel Shipp as his RB on this team. Shipp went on to play in the NFL. When you have an NFL player at the I-AA level, it's a huge advantage, much bigger than having one at the DI level. Take this with a grain of salt.]
- Gets the backfield players involved in routes, looks to create space and get the backfield players replacing linebackers. People I've asked says he loves to throw to the backs.
- FB carried the ball 37 times in 1998, was third leading receiver on the team that year with 38 catches.
- Gets as many into pass routes as possible, consistently going quick 5 step drop and releasing 5 receivers, a lot of pressure on the OL. This is known as a 5-man protection.
- QB threw for 3,000 yards on 228-399, 28 TD's, 15 INT's
- Loves to throw the ball in the redzone. This is great for us because it's generally a dumb strategy.
- Throws 9 yard comeback\out, seems to like routes working towards the sideline. There are opportunities for pick-6's here if the QB throws a lazy ball.
- Worked a FB screen on 2nd and medium, doesn't seem overly aggressive but is very consistent in his approach.
- Likes to clear out underneath zones by running guys through them and then get the ball to crossers.
- Attacks vertical off the playaction passing game. Very NFL-Style.
- Showed the bubble but threw backside.
- Incorporates the TE in the passing game, will attack the flats if coverage is off. Whipple is obsessed with forcing the defense to stop the easy stuff. He will continually hit the TE and the RB's in the flats.
- Consistently runs the ball on third and 2 and less, which is odd given his redzone passing persuasion.
- Motioned to empty backfield (quads) and threw bubble type play. Good opportunity to run some sort of fake bubble-n-go off ot this.
- He is going to get the ball to his backfield players as often as possible, finds a lot of different ways to get them the ball.
- Went for it deep in his own end. Whipple is very smart and understands 4th down math, much like Belichek, Meyer, Parcells, and other great coaches. Hopefully for the 'Noles, Randy Shannon will probably make him punt, but it absolutely, overwhelmingly is the right call to go for it most of the time.
- Creates great spacing in the passing game and works triangle reads, three guys in different spots
- Went shotgun with about 1 minute left in half, poor clock management, though that could be on the QB and not the coach.
More on this later, but we didn't see him running his QB, any option elements, etc. Can he do that with Miami this year? Sure, but he hasn't really shown that persuasion.
Also, Miami didn't need to fire their offensive coordinator. They probably needed a new defensive coordinator. Look at how their offense did in conference...
And how their defense did:
Hmm, so Miami had arguably the worst defense in the conference, and they blame their offensive coordinator? Why could that be? Could it be because they can't afford to fire their head coach Randy Shannon, who was basically their defensive coordinator? Maybe because Miami's program is crumbling due to a dangerously low lack of support?
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What kept running through my head
Is that this works to our advantage. If there is one thing Mickey has been able to game plan for, its the pro style offense. My concern is when Jacorry starts improvising. With each day that passes, I get more confident. I just cant wait for the season to start. Is it me, or has this offseason lasted longer than any other?
Seems Predictable and Stubborn
I like his old-school style … it should play to our strengths. I’m sure he’s a very good coach, but I like our chances against this type of offense in their first gameunder the lights at what I hope is an electric Doak Campbell Stadium. I can’t wait!
Great research - TN comes through again. People get paid to (not) do this.
One slight complaint though: You couldn’t find out what flavor ice cream Coach Whipple likes?
based on the analysis I'd say vanilla
And when he’s feeling fiesty, he’ll add some sprinkles.
OH YEAAHH!
by TBfisherman on Aug 28, 2009 3:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This site is fanfrickintastic, Props to Oline
He never disappoints.
My take on Whipple is that he’s overrated and overhyped already. It isn’t his fault, its because he’s at UM. If Chuck Amato got hired as their HC next year they’d probably compare him to Bear Bryant. I think if Whipple had realistic expectations set upon him he’d be in good shape but he along with Jacory Harris are believed to be the saviors of the program.
A) He never secured a coordinator job in the NFL. Even as the QB coach of Big Ben he didn’t produce a prolific passer. This isn’t a shot at Roethlisberger, but facts are facts he’s only had one great passing season in the NFL and that was the first year Whipple left Pittsburgh (2007). Obviously it makes you look good when your QB goes undefeated to start his career, but I consider The Steeler’s dominant, elite defense, their head coach and superior running game to be the principal facilitators of that success.
2) I also understand that the popular claim is that he provided a lot of input for the offensive schemes in Philadelphia, which I suppose counts for something. But Jacory Harris is NOT Donavan McNabb.
D) Whipple’s success at UMass is overstated as well in terms of what Miami wants to accomplish. As a head coach he had about a 65% winning percentage which isn’t exactly the “back” that Miami wants to be. I completely understand the mass offensive success but I also acknowledge that it was against inferior coaching and talent as well.
My very first A,2,D. Don’t fry me guys.
2) I also understand that the popular claim is that he provided a lot of input for the offensive schemes in Philadelphia, which I suppose counts for something. But Jacory Harris is NOT Donavan McNabb.
Get the ball to Brian Westbrook is not a game plan. Also, I’ve never been impressed with the X’s and O’s of the Philly offense.
2) I also understand that the popular claim is that he provided a lot of input for the offensive schemes in Philadelphia, which I suppose counts for something. But Jacory Harris is NOT Donavan McNabb.
Get the ball to Brian Westbrook is not a game plan. Also, I’ve never been impressed with the X’s and O’s of the Philly offense.
edit: cleaning up my quote.
Canes tone down their expectations
Off course they’re hyping Whipple, same goes for DC Lovett. In any case ,most canes that I know will be happy with a 9-3 record. A far cry from the 12-0 or 11-1 record in 2000 and 2001.
Throws 9 yard comeback\out, seems to like routes working towards the sideline. There are opportunities for pick-6’s here if the QB throws a lazy ball.
I’ve never understood this. Why are you throwing the ball that far away? I understand that there are more people in the middle of the field but they are LBs that are slower than your players and routes can easily be cut off to find the hole in the zone. OC’s continually try to work the sidelines when it’s been proven (mostly by the Pats) that throwing the ball down the middle of the field is very effective.
It’s a great route to have in your arsenal. QB has to make a good read (is CB inside or outside the receiver? does he have help underneath (zone)?). But in man-to-man with DBs playing off the ball to respect the WRs speed/ability, the comeback and out-route are great chunks of change to pick up. Having said this, P-Rob will freaking EXPLODE if they use this route against him; he has a receiver’s mind on the read and timing of these passes, and could be a legit pick-6 threat every play.
Whipple is a smart guy
He loves the Pro-style, which is expected from an NFL coach. You can run a lot of great stuff out of the pro. If you remember back to the David vs. Goliath series, Pro-style is great for a USC team, where a consistent (if not vanilla) offense is the best long-term bet (aka, Goliath strategy). It’s just that College defenses don’t have the combination of size and speed that NFL defenses have to take advantage of a spread offensive philosophy.
Having said that, MA’s defensive approach is tailored to slice up a pro-style offense (see FSUn’s SBGunOption vs. Pro-style defensive matrix). I like this matchup a whole lot. Still woried about the vertical stuff, and I’m wondering if we’ll be disciplined on the playaction pass.
did we
switch brains true, that post has me written all over it, A,2,D
Maybe?
Lol usually its me and eastwood that speak each other’s minds haha
Thank god
for no spread elements in his O. this game looks better and better for us.
Question: does he use any misdiretion stuff with his backs and FB
peace...
I’d expect to see some more spread elements. We’ll definitely see 4 and 5 wide in game one. This game film was from early 2000’s so I’m sure it’s not all of his stuff.
Also I’m not sure where the thought of him having input with the Eagles came from? Where was that said? I’m sure he was there, but he wasn’t the QB coach and Morningwheg\Reid run that offense.
What concerns me is that he likes to throw to the TE
but I guess this is not much different from past UM teams….
from the story it doesn't concern me
b/c it sounded like he doesn’t use the TE downfield which is where we’ve faltered over the last decade or so. TEs being an outlet in the flat isn’t a concern to me as I feel very confident about our ability to not allow those outlet routes (both RB and TE) to not turn into big plays.
TEs and FBs coverage
FSU in the past could never cover this two positions, usually to the fact that Mickey was blitzing a LB or Rover. Even when UM had the stud TEs in the past. Hopefully, Mickey will be careful this year with the coverage of these two positions.
Hopefully we don't have a lot of impact here
http://www.recombinomics.com/News/08280902/H1N1_Sticker.html
“Saban said”
“We probably had four or five guys that eventually had the flu and haven’t been at practice. And you had four or five other guys who sort of had the upper respiratory thing without the fever – and really not the flu – and they’ve been able to manage their way through it.”
This year’s widespread flu outbreak has become a problem for football teams at all levels across the South. High schools teams are considering canceling games in several states.
Ole Miss cancelled a fan day. Tulane had more than 20 players miss practice last week because of a flu outbreak on the team. The Green Wave’s team physician, Greg Stewart, told the Tulane Rivals’ site WaveReport.com that, “It’s an average of five days, usually,” for the virus to work its way out of the system.
“We’re very hopeful that this does not become an issue for college football or sports this fall,” Saban said. “Hopefully, the management things we’re doing will help us not have an issue or a problem.”
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Agree, Doc
This is something I’ve been concerned about. There are outbreaks at a lot of schools and we’re just getting started.
Swagger, Intensity, Execution
Looking beyond Monday's game
It might be a little easier to pull some of the SoFL WRs if they see that UM’s new offense centers around the backs and TEs.
OH YEAAHH!
by TBfisherman on Aug 28, 2009 4:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Shut down the run and cover the TE and we win!
As long as FSU doesn’t allow Miami to get a running game going and forces Miami to be 1 demensional we have a great chance to win.
Second I hope they are teaching our linebackers and even our DE to cover the TE. I am so tired of FSU giving up plays to the TE and it doesn’t matter who the OC is at Miami they will throw to the TE because Miami knows how to exploit our defense’s weakness and that is because we have never been able to cover a TE in the last 10 years probably. I’m going all the way to back to the 2000 game with idiot Jeremy Shockey catching the game winning TD.
You know what I think Ive seen an Offense like this before
MA should be able to stop him even with a not so good FSU Def. What I do like about this is how he has used hes backfiled. Im all about RB flaring out to the flats. Its almost like a screen. What I dont like is MA wont use a nickel when they are in Slot looks. and If the throw a bubble the WR will crack the LB covering the screen guy and then its 1 on 1 with out CB. (wont bother me if it Rob) but he wouldnt do that I dont think. Seems from this hes going to be Predictable. FSU needs to worry about one thing though. Miami has speed and they have talent. The might not have used it as they should have but they still have it. I thought Shannon had 2 top 10 recruiting classes. If not its close.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Don't read too much into these stats
The “scout” questions the firing of the OC (Nix) and says it was the DC that needed to go?
Games aren’t played on paper, or stats, or graphs—so take these charts…
Early in the season the Cane Defense more than held their own. Look at the UF game. In fact it wasn’t until the FSU game that they faltered. And why is that?
Probably a combination of things, but the most glaring fact… Look at how many 3 and outs the Offense had. It was sickening as a Canes’ fan. Yes the defense allowed a lot, but they also kept us in the game. If that makes sense.
The youth and depth of our D caused them to wear down as the season progressed. They regressed. But the blame lies with the OC. Believe that.
I expect a great game on Labor Day. Good luck.. I always root for the Noles when they don’t play my boys.
Those graphs just show what happened on the field
And Miami had the worst run D in the conference.
Your argument about the D being worn down for FSU is silly. FSU had 3 TD drives in the first 20 minutes? To start the game?
yYour offense was much much better than the D last year. Any impartial observer can see that from watching the games. The key will be if Shannon lets his OC coach. He didn’t let Nix do his job.
I look forward to a great game and expect at least 400 yards on Miami, the rare shootout.
Awesome post fsucensored for sure
I like this post and anyone who understand football know Nix wants to open up the offense but Shannon didn’t. Great post for sure. Although I am on shannon side because the youth at the qb position and the injuried to James.
Wow.
Any impartial observer might have seen that our offense was okay in spite of Patrick Nix, who remains jobless and stupid and horny for bubble screens.
Great Whipple report.
by The Great Barstoolio on Aug 28, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Former Pittsburgh Steeler head coach Bill Cowher....
Said if he returned to coaching Mark Whipple would be one of the first people he would get on his staff.
Enough said.
Enough will be said after Labor Day night, not now.
He has yet to prove himself as the OC as Miami.
I’ve known many a person, including myself, to do a great job at one place and then a terrible one at another.
" And He drank the world's sin so He could carry you in, and give you life"
The question is if he would have him on staff as an OC.
That being said, I think what readers of this site are excited about is that he runs a pro style offense which our stagnant defensive scheme typically matches up well against. I think we would rather face an above-average pro-style OC than an average spread style OC, at least until MA rertires.
OH YEAAHH!
Hold on a minute
First I would like to say that I have been watching this site for about a year now and keep up the good work T- Nation, I have really enjoyed many articles and only questioned a few…
Part of me wants to say that UM should expect what we did when Jimbo first took over for us a (7-6ish) season, but i think that UM has a greater talent level then we did and have now…
The biggest thing I have to say is that you cannot put Whipple or their new D-coordinator into a box.. They will play whatever scheme that is best suited for their players and talent. This should scare Noles b/c we don’t really know what to expect, they will pull out some highly unexpected plays just like last year when they threw to an O-linemen..
I do like the fact that the game is in our house but the fact that our D. has had so many problems this preseason really worries me.. We are more than capable of giving the game away as we did 2 years ago and almost last year.. It is sad but i have grown accustom to questioning our chance of winning..
Welcome, Chris!
You are very right. Whipple could install a zone read or a little Veer. I do not like our defense (see comment at bottom of the off-season discussion thread. I think it will be Mickey’s worst defense in 2 decades.
Didn’t mean to give off the impression that they couldn’t play. They can and this will be a game.
Thanks fir the post. We love thoughtful discussion. Please stick around.
by Bud Elliott on Aug 28, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn't say they have a greater talent level than us
Miami had to pull in big time classes because they had so many holes. But a lot of those kids are still unproven and they would not start at FSU right now. I’d take Ponder over Harris, Thomas over their backs, we have the better offensive line and on defensive with the exception of the DT spot we are comparable at all spots and Watson and Prob would start over any player they have.
While any coordinator will add a wrinkle or two to try and take advantage of a weakness they see, they will still keep the same base. For example with no QB depth and no history of running the option or spread odds are against seeing Whipple call the speed option 12 times a game. So looking at Whipple’s history can give the coaches an idea of what he will do the majority of the time, and the rest will just have to be adjusted for during the game. But that is no different than any other time two teams line up.
by osceolafan850 on Aug 29, 2009 4:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Hold the phone…a little of that Garnet and Gold is coming out in your somewhat bias picks….
Ponder over Harris…ok fine, but Harris in just his true freshman first college action had a better QB rating, much better TD-att ratio, TD-INT ratio and completed % . Food for thought.
Thomas over “their backs”…Thomas put up good numbers that’s for sure but no way I would take him over our deepest position – Cooper, James, Chambers, M.James, Miller and Berry. Miami is stacked here no doubt.
WR – Miami
OL – closer than you think….and truthfuly have to see what comes to the table for both teams come the 7th. Miami has a pretty veteran OL with Fox, Franklin, Trump, Fig.
DL – Miami….IMO UM’s biggest advantage over FSU, even with a couple out at DE Miami is deep and pretty good across the board here. Case in point…FSU right now would probably take any of the 8 DT we have and he would be in a good position to start or see the field in this first game….Miami will have to decide which 5 to bring on the travel squad.
LB – Both pretty good but I’m going with the team that has 2 players on the Butkus Award watch list…Miami.
DB – Both teams a little weak here and could be a sore spot…call it even.
A bad habit most UM fans have
Is buying into the hype about players without ever seeing them perform. Most of the backs and WRs that Canes fans are excited about have doing little to nothing on the college level. So their is nothing to base an opinion that Miller or Berry or any of the WRs will really become great. I could sit here and say Haulstead will be better than any WR at the U and dominant the game. But It would be a completely unfounded and worthless opinion. Good scrimmage reports and HS numbers do not a star make.
As for Cooper and James, Thomas’ stats look silly compared to theirs. Thomas had one more carry than James but 196 more yards. James’ longest run was also a meager 13 yards, while Thomas’ was a 63 yarder, showing who is the more explosive back. Cooper had 102 more carries than Thomas and 359 more yards. So in all those extra carries he average a horrible 3.52 yards. Thomas’ season average of 7 ypc is completely unsustainable, but there is no reason to think he wouldn’t average at least what Cooper did, and most likely more. The truly funny thing is with those 102 extra carries Cooper had a grand total of one more TD than Thomas did. Cooper and Thomas also had the same amount of runs 20 yards or more (5) but if we extrapolate Thomas’ numbers with Cooper’s carries he would more than double the number. Statistically speaking Cooper and James are average college backs, and they never impressed me when I have watched them.
I agree for the most part about what was said about the rest of the post though. I expect the defenses to play around the same level on Labor Day, which the advantage going to the Noles’ offense due to have players who have a deeper understanding of their offensive system, and as experienced D1 championship level OC, as well as the best o-line coach in the biz
by osceolafan850 on Aug 29, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Well…most of us UM fans saw enough out of those true freshman WR (Byrd, A.Johnson, Collier and Benjamin) to be pretty excited for their 2nd year development with a QB gaining experience and now led by a respected offensive mind in Whipple.
As for the RB spot…have to disagree…I would take our stable of RB over Thomas and ?
It will come down to (as usual) what team has better play in the trenches and makes fewer costly mistakes.
WRs
A lot of Nole fans would say the same about Reed, Easterling Givens and co. But No WR on either roster has shown that they can truly be an all ACC player so we all would just be taking a wild guess. Easterling and Reed would be 2nd and 4th respectively in catches if they had the same numbers and played for Miami. Easterling would be 2nd in yards and Reed would be tied for 2nd in TDs. Reed would be 1st in rec ypg and Easterling would be 4th if they both were Canes.
To be honest I would put the FSU WRs a step above the UM group because it will be their second year playing in the system so there will be less though involved. But I am a firm believer in continuity.
by osceolafan850 on Aug 29, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
WHO CARES WHAT U KNOW ABOUT WHIPPLE
You guys could know the playbook it dont matter.What matters is that our receivers one if not the best in the nation will expose that secondary of FSU.Everything i read talks about fsu seconday is very very weak and on top of that 4 of our top 6 receivers are all over 6’3.I ALSO RECOMEND YOU NOLES FANS TO GO 2 ESPN AND WATCH THE VIDEOS ON THE ACC PREVIEW WITH KIRK HEIBSTREIT AND WATCH WHAT HE SAIDS ABOUT THE NOLES BEING BEHIND MIAMI ON GETTING BACK TO THE TOP. We will have a field day on that weak defense.Then i would love 2 see what you say about MARK WHIPPLE
by MiamiCanesFreak on Aug 29, 2009 10:30 AM EDT reply actions
Herbstreet
Herbstreet is a announcer who ESPN is trying to turn into an analyst. He knows nothing about any cfb teams unless they are in the top 10 and an assistant hands him a piece of paper explaining it to him. The only team in recent history who went through 3 OCs in 3 years and had a good offense was the USC team with Palmer at QB. Whipple is no Chow, Harris is no Palmer, and even Carson was a senior at the time. Make sure you come back after Labor Day though.
by osceolafan850 on Aug 29, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Let's flashback 2 years, shall we? from "allabouttheU.blogspot.com
Monday, September 03, 2007
Canes Earning Praise
ESPN college football analyst Kirk Herbstreit (pictured) has announced his seventh annual “Herbies”, and the Hurricanes are mentioned prominently in several categories.
The most important mention was the Canes as one of the top 10 teams on their way up in the polls, according to Herbstreit.
In another similar category, Coach Randy Shannon was listed among five coaches who figure to have success instantly.
OK NOW WATCH MEL KIPER JR SUPRISE TEAM 4RM ACC ON ESPN
say what you want 2 know even though u have no clue i got something for you. MEL KIPER JR has a video on espn picking MIAMI as the suprise team in the acc dosent that tell u something about the canes What now your gonna say he dont know anything either and someone was pointing a gun making him say that i dont think so. ACCEPT THE TRUTH MIAMI IS THE BETTER TEAM AND WE WILL LEAVE DOAK 1-0 ENOUGH SAID.. OHHHHH AND BY THE WAY WHAT DO U HAVE 2 SAY ABOUT OUR RECEIVERS VS YOUR SECONDARY HUH NOTHING MUCH CAUSE U KNOW IT AINT LOOKIN PRETTY 4 YOU. ENUFF SAID
by MiamiCanesFreak on Aug 29, 2009 10:59 AM EDT reply actions
Think about it logically
Mel Kiper Jr got on ESPN because he looked at college kids, decided who would be best for the NFL and then slotted them for the draft, often incorrectly. But now he is suddenly an expert on what makes a better college team. How is he worth following when his expertise has little to nothing to do with his new job? College football is a different breed of animal than the NFL and if you just look for “pro talent” like Kiper has been going for years has nothing to do with knowing what team is better on Saturday. For an example look no further than Ken Dorsey.
by osceolafan850 on Aug 29, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of secondaries...
The Canes were the worst turnover generator in all of D-1 football last year, with 4 interceptions.
THAT’S RIGHT, four interceptions. THAT’S A very low number of PICKS.
(hard to TELL WHEN I mean business during THIS POST)
Mel Kiper
Is the same guy who has Marcus Sims of FSU as one of his top 5 draft eligible Full backs right now . . . Marcus Sims left the team over a month ago.
TO THE WRITER OF THE ARTICLE
The last thing i was expecting to read was you saying THE LAST THING MIAMI NEEDED 2 DO WAS FIRE THE OFFENSIVE CORDINATOR LMAO WOW.Patric Nix is the worst OC i seen not only that he still aint hired.DoesFSU really think that analyzing teams from a decade ago, with different personel, in a different division will help against Miami?
by MiamiCanesFreak on Aug 29, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions
I have to tell ya...
one of the more legible UM posts I’ve read.
I really like what you did mixing in caps and lower case with little regard to the accepted rules of grammar. It really helps me take your point seriously. I didn’t think Nix was all that bad, but after that masterpiece, you have me convinced!
Seriously though
You are sixteen right? Im assuming at least that old since you apparently were able to get on to a computer without supervision.
I wouldn't put much stock in him being let go by Pittsburgh
Often a new HC does want his own people for his staff and Whipple was let go when Tomlin was hired.
The important thing to remember...
While Whipples a good coach, but theres a reason BC passed on him and a reason why he was a “consultant” type position with the Eagles. I love all this QB coach shit, he wasn’t even listed on the Eagles website as QB coach. I’m a diehard Eagles fan and couldn’t have told you who he was before all this he was in on gameplanning and coached\developed Donovan and Westbrook crap.
This film was from a couple years ago so truth be told I’m sure things have changed as spread formations have become even more prevalent. I’m sure we’ll see some gun stuff, particularly if Whipples not confident in the pass blocking of the OL. No team has such an advantage that one is pegged as an easy favorite. The interesting thing to note is it seems to be strength versus strength and weakness versus weakness in this game. FSU O versus UM D is strength on strength (our OL versus their DL, our RB’s versus their LB’s). FSU D versus UM O (Their QB versus our secondary, their OL versus our DL). Those are a few interesting matchups that are important in the game.
Ultimately, this game comes down to the lines. Can we protect Ponder and run the ball and can we force them to be one dimensional and create pressure with our DE’s.
ENUFF SAID! I ALSO LOVE TO USE ALL CAPS WHEN I WANT EVERYONE TO THINK I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT! ENUFF SAID!
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em
I was just thinking...
Where the heck is nextlevel? He’s the perfect secret weapon with these guys. Let him him take off the training wheels and just lay into them. Nextlevel where are you? I expect some quality responses to the Miami posts.
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
by onebarrelrum on Aug 29, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU NOLES FANS
Do you guys really think your young unexperienced secondary could keep up with our receivers (considered one of the best in the country) with us running a pro type of offense with whipple and 4 of our top 6 wide outs all being 6’3 or higher seriously?
by MiamiCanesFreak on Aug 30, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions
Actually,
it’s inexperienced. We own pro-style offenses, struggle against spread-option type teams. You guys will get some points, and your wideouts are good, but unproven and considered some of the best in the conference, not the country.
We have the top corner in the country, and If you want to go 4-wide, be my guest. Miami will get some points, but your defense was terrible last year. Will they be any better this year? FSU’s secondary is better than Miami’s…
POINT IS WE WILL HAVE A FIELD DAY ON THAT DFENSE
We wil spread the ball all over the field on u guys and then we will hit u with a run down your throat with cooper. I use to like NOLE fans until ive see what u guys been puttin up in this siteall these thugs this thug that the ibis a thug come on now randy shannon has cleaned up the program we havent had any incident in almost 3 years while fsu has had about 4 or 5 arrest and problems with the NCAA come on now.Show some class
by MiamiCanesFreak on Aug 30, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions
7-6,5-7,7-6
I suppose having your starting DE’s jaw broken by another “unnamed player” is no big deal.
As for our defense, I predict Harris will throw at least 1 but more likely 2 picks.
stop UNRESPECTING da U yall gotta RESPCT IT DA HURRICAINS R COMIN 2 DOKE
ITS A CAIN THING and U cANT STOP IT
no unrespect indended, tda you fanz just needz to conciede defeat
word up yo
If you build it, they will come.
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