USF @ FSU Halftime Thread
by Bud Elliott on Sep 26, 2009 11:16 AM EDT
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When halftime breaks, head to the 3rd quarter thread http://www.tomahawknation.com/2009/9/26/1055881/usf-fsu-3rd-quarter-thread
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Nice halftime report!
Very, very precise DK. :)
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
'I'm not a Role Model" - Charles Barkley
Like Bud said.... Time to bring our expectations back to the middle.
We’ve seen our highs against BYU and our lows against Jax St.
First half analysis
I know I’m seen as the Debbie Downer of the site, but I was worried all week about this game and that fear has been justified.
We are still not a very good football team.
What people don’t understand about the BYU game is that EVERYTHING went right. Well guess what, MOST TEAMS WIN WHEN EVERYTHING GOES RIGHT!
But those type of wins shouldn’t gloss over glaring weaknesses in the team.
We are still very young and while players like D. Allen can look like a stud one day, they don’t have the discipline to be that way all the time.
This is a 7-5/8-4 football team.
My expectations are always in the middle.
Middle of the 1st quarter to see if I need to watch or not.
We either outscore teams by 30 points, or if the offense hiccups at all, we watch our defense get burned over, and over, and over, and over, and over.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
'I'm not a Role Model" - Charles Barkley
Will they disclose the severity of Ponders injury after the game?
APB on Zebrie, did not see him.
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
I'm all about seeing the Noles win football games...
But I don’t want to see them playing Ponder if he is hurt.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
'I'm not a Role Model" - Charles Barkley
Their defense is playing very well. Even Jax State didn't do this to us.
Ponder is getting rushed a lot more than before.
Mobility is playing a key there.
Ponder can usually get out of situations before they even develop.
Our offensive line is much, much improved, but I believe Ponder makes them look good sometimes with his feet and his smarts.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
'I'm not a Role Model" - Charles Barkley
Definitely. Ponder knows he is gifted when he runs.
He uses it as a weapon to keep drives going, but subconsciously he knows it’ll bail him out of many situations. I think he is very weary of being reduced to David Carr ala Texans 2006-7ish team.
with CP7 hurt there's no way he can outrun the pass rush consistently.
do you think we need EJ in there, or is it too soon?
I say bring EJ out in the 3rd and give them something they didn't expect.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
'I'm not a Role Model" - Charles Barkley
USF is averaging ...
…. more than 10 yards per play.
We’ve run 41 plays to there 26 and have a respectable 192 total yards.
A lot of those have been wasted on screen passes.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
Trickett should light a fire under their asses....
And Jimbo should raise hell also. The offense hasnt been THAT bad… those fumbles really hurt. Ponder has looked a bit off at times as well, but mainly due to pressure. If the OL steps it up, we should be OK…. on offense anyway.
Defense wise…. we funked.
X's and O's-wise
The only thing I don’t understand is why we didn’t take shots down field more. They were crowding the LOS — often both safeties were within 10-15 yards of the line and really weren’t retreating deep. I’m afraid it’s too late now, though. They’ll just keep it all in front of them and keep knocking the snot out of us after the catch. Clearly, they have intimidated our offense with their toughness.
their defense looks a lot more solid than our offense
that DLine is impressive, especially the ends (6’7" are you kidding?)
and the hits they are putting are wicked
Ponders playing timid with only one wheel.
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
Thoughts
A) Their ends are getting enough pressure to take away our vertical game, so we’re stuck going underneath, which they’re covering well.
2) Our defense blows. We’re going to need them to make a couple of big plays or get some stops to give our special teams a chance to make plays.
D) It’s going to be hard to come back against the style of defense that USF is playing. We’re not going to get it back quickly. We have to be methodical on offense and play our game.
vi) We may have to go to EJ to give the option of a mobile guy under center. They’re collapsing the pocket and Ponder looks really uncomfortable. I don’t want to sabotage the season for this game.
Swagger, Intensity, Execution
We just need to run the ball and limit their big plays.
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
Problem is we KNOW we give up the deep throws, but we still can't stop it.
I think we still give up a few more 30+ pass plays and make BJ Daniels look like BMOC at USF this week. Granted he’s gifted, but our trend is to allow decent qb’s to look amazing.
this will be difficult
every time he puts the ball up deep, I know there will be a receiver wide open in the secondary with nobody between him and the end zone
ATTENTION
The best way to lose this game is to bring in Manuel.
There is NO WAY he will lead us back to victory.
But at what cost?
Ponder is really hurt. IF we establish the run and throw the simple stuff we’re going to have to throw anyway, EJ could run that stuff.
Swagger, Intensity, Execution
hurt...not injured.
He hasn’t been playing bad. OLine just needs to block.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
Pierre-Paul and Selvie are flying upfield
Ponder is throwing the ball from 10-15 yards back from the line of scrimmage every time. His happy feet have returned for good reason. We have to simplify it.
Swagger, Intensity, Execution
One half will hardly mitigate his knee situation
for the rest of the season. He’s fine.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
Ponder and Jimbo.
He’s sore. He may not be 100% but sitting for a half isn’t going to fix his soreness.
We are only down 14 and this game is not out of reach.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
Sorry
But from what i have seen from the first half we are going to lose this game big.. They are hitting us in the mouth and are falling like a little school child..
Oline no focus.
Secondary sucks
Ponder is off and limping all over the place.
AND WE ARE BEING OUT COACHED!!
It is a shame…I just dont know what to say.. Make a 1st start QB look like a hiesmen candidate..
The second half cant start soon enough.
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
He's not ready to lead us back from 14 points either.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
I'm always fascinated .....
by how seemingly innocuous plays early in the game impact the final outcome. I think the Owens drop on third down on our first drive was a huge play.
Mentally, if we march down there and score it tell us: Hey, it’s just a continuation of the BYU game. But that drop really set us up for the long afternoon it has become.
I don't feel desperate yet.
This is a much tougher game than I’d like to see, but we are not out of it…
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.
Elayne Boosler
Second half prediction...
We will break through and score, but D will not get enough stops — we lose 28-21
If we're gonna win, USF needs to start turning it over
The offense (even with no fumbles) can’t do it all
Don't want to sound like nextlevel version 2.0 but 14 points is nothing if we cut out the mistakes
i.e.
A) fumbles and holding penalties.
2) Need to start throwing 10-20 yard play action quick slants and screens and mix in the draw plays.
D) But the most important thing is to hold them to 3 and out the first series to start the 2nd half.
I am going to change from my FSU t-shirt to my TN t-shirt and I guarantee you will see a different 2nd half of play from FSU.
Then at the end of the game I will come back and tell you how right I was.
PERIOD!
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em
Which is why putting EJ
in would be a knee-jerk decision.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
We have given the momentum and confidence need to whoop us.
As they have hung and hit us the mouth we have lost our chance to win
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