Offensive Lineman Ed Christian decommits from Florida State
by SWFLNole. on Sep 27, 2009 4:46 PM EDT
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PrintRivals 4* offensive lineman from Valdosta (Lowndes) High School has been committed to Seminoles since February of this year. He is an excellent player who can play guard or tackle. Many believed that he may have been one fo the three or so most solid commits that the entire class had up to this point, but apparently not. Ed has decided to open his recruitment back up after his recent visit to Auburn. He will be going back for an official visit to Auburn before making his ultimate decision. This comes on the heels of an obviously very disappointing loss to USF, and not very far removed from Tennessee stealing away Corey Miller and Brandon Willis. Needless to say, a class that has looked very promising all throughout this cycle is starting to become worrisome. The lack of any defensive leadership on the field, and in recruiting, creates no stability which is one of the most important thing to high school kids and more importantly mothers. The losses on the field are showing that FSU may be much further away to being "back" than these kids may have been told. Lastly, FSU is a very easy target for negative recruiters because of NCAA violations, and a head coach who doesn't go out and hit the pavement recruiting like he once did.
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but none of them will be going to USF
Dude, dont you have anything better to do? Why do you keep coming here with nothing to contribute?
I don't understand this at all
We didn’t have these problems with the 08 or 09 classes, and we are better off than we were then: Offense has improved, defensive coaching is due next year, Bowden almost gone.
We are a very easy target
- Dont know who the defensive coaches will be at all
- Losing to in state schools
- No head coach out there defending us
- NCAA violations/probation
we had all that last year didn't we?
except for the losing to in state schools
by tdchrisdavis on Sep 27, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
The sanctions came in the off season, right
and don’t discount losing to UM and USF. Also the SEC signs its mega deal in the offseason and can sell that to our kids. At least last year kids knew who the staff would be this year. It’s like we had most of this stuff but the same stuff just got worse.
There is no such thing as certainty as to coaches these days.
Besides, what would the uncertainty regarding the defensive coaches have to do with Christian?
I was talking more generally about the program's recruiting there, we lost Corey too.
Even if there is no such thing, you can still sell certainty, which we cant
Simple reason
Back then we still had kids who remembered us winning. We have been getting worse and worse for over half of these kids’ lives. If you are 18 you saw us win the ACC once since you were in middle school.
by osceolafan850 on Sep 27, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
yep
im a college freshman and though I can remember winning it all in 99, I doubt most of these kids do.
by tdchrisdavis on Sep 27, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Best of luck Ed
I don’t think we will get him back. Good luck in Auburn, you are a great talent and a very solid person to boot.
by NoleThruandThru on Sep 27, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions
Years ago
…if you wanna be a smart ass about it. But yeah, the sooner the better. And equally important is having a replacement lined up and ready to go the moment after we beat the gators. I can dream right?
Publicly- ideally right after the bowl game in December (I think we make a bowl, yes)
No later than early Jan
by NoleThruandThru on Sep 27, 2009 5:29 PM EDT reply actions
hmm
didnt that one fat guy who quit on our team end up at Auburn? Can’t imagine he had anything good to say about FSU.
"No, like I said, Woo peed on my rug" - The Dude
The hits just keep on coming...
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
It's unfortunate but exactly what we deserve
We can’t expect these guys to just sign on to join a team that cares more for not offending Bowden than putting the best team on the field.
The coaching staff failed to get the team up for an obvious trap game. Is that the kind of program you’d want to put your professional future in the hands of?
It is disappointing that this stuff starts happening when we’ve actually gotten considerably better. The 2006 and 2007 teams had almost no bright spots, and the current team is paying for it despite being better. That might be the only part that is unfair.
I heard Jimbo say
That this was not a trap game. These guys were a solid team and he said he let them know that all week (this was on the radio during pregame). He said USF would be tough to handle if they gave them confidence, and the only way they would do that would be if we beat ourselves.
4 turnovers and TD killing penalties = Jimbo called it point blank
by freshcollegeboy on Sep 28, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I feel like this 2010 class will resemble 2006/2007's
DJ Johnson, D. Jacobs and T. Barnes are said to be soft verbals, per Rivals. I am no longer confident that we land Luc, Joyner, Green or any other stud until we see results on the field and changes in the staff.
I think the overweight guy left Auburn also.
Part of the interview process for the incoming president should be are you willing to run the three stooges off and turn this program over to Fisher.
If not it may come to a point where nobody is in the stands. BB was out laughing and joking with the USF people after the game like he had just lost a hand of gin rummy. If they can hire a new president that understands the connection to University prestige and the football program as well as the financial aspects BB will be gone after this season.
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TomahawkNation
Better to bear the rebuke of the wise than to hear the song of fools
That thought crossed my mind of nobody in the stands
During home games and I got nauseous. BB does not care whether we win or lose, sad.
Look what I found
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?fsu4life
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TomahawkNation
Better to bear the rebuke of the wise than to hear the song of fools
I just signed it...great find Doc
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by Curtain Jerker on Sep 27, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Another thing is
those “gentlemen” in Gainesville are loving this. They’ve hated Bobby for years and they are laughing as they watch him destroy everything about us they hate.
What will be the tipping point?
I honestly don’t see what could change things at this point. The hold Bobby has on the program is ridiculous. What other coach of an elite program would still be here with the combination of negatives our program has had in the last few years, especially when there is a designated successor waiting to take over.
No other coach would have kept his job in the face of:
Our academic scandal (even if it was the entire athletic department. The head football coach is the face of athletics at schools like FSU)
Decreasing attendance.
Inexcusable home losses.
Losing recruits at this pace.
Losing 5 (soon to be 6) to their arch in-state rival.
Have not played in the last 3 conference championships games.
Had the legal issues with players that we have had recently (probably not worse than a lot of programs and wouldn’t be a factor until you look at all the other issues)
I’m sure I’m missing a lot, feel free to add to the list.
SWFLnole bring it on
I could use some good news right about now. I don’t know about the rest of you but I am finding it extremely agitating watching BB walk around with that jungle hat on.
Playstation All American, right again!
TomahawkNation
Better to bear the rebuke of the wise than to hear the song of fools
Well, it will be informative, hopefully it is good news
I think you will enjoy the contents given your propensity for understanding the link between the president’s office and the athletic program.
It is in the works
It is long, and I still have research to do, and need to formulate my true opinions. Once that is done I will get the word from FSUn on when he would like it to run. Whatever the best day is in the next couple weeks I would imagine, football analysis still goes first.
What can we do
as a community of FSU fans to help shape the discussion in the media and elsewhere? There has to be a way for grassroots action if the Boosters care more about the coach than the school.
I just asked this in a fanpost.
I have no idea where to start with this, but we need idea.
by pillsburysoldier on Sep 27, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
we need some good news from a recruiting standpoint do we have anyone thats ready to pull the trigger
So what!
Let Christian decommit. Maybe it is for the best. I will never believe the hype of players from High School. Why? What kind of competition did they play against?
Sure these players we recruit are the future of the program but frankly folks if a guy commits to us and then decommits over a loss then is he even worth having on our team anyway? No. Sounds like a quiter to me. Oh things don’t go right in fantasy land so I’m going to jump ship.
Now with that being said maybe he saw something we don’t see like behind the scenes of how our coaches coach in the games or react to certain situations and that caused him to switch. That is different all together and is a sign of intelligence.
Re:
I don’t express your fervor; a few points:
- Ed Christian plays in one of the most telent laiden places in the country, his HS competition is higher than anywhere but S. FL, East Texas, and S. Cali. And may be even with the latter two.
- I don’t think it shows signs of a quitter AT ALL, this is recruiting, it is how it works. We are not that attractive right now, and Ed seems to be figuring that out. Hopefully we can convince him to stay, it is important. It is not “fantasy land”, it is his future. HIS FUTURE, yes he is worth having, he is trying to make the most important decision of his life. Its not like me when I was in college trying to decide, it is much bigger because there are bigger circumstances surrounding it.
- You don’t believe in the hype of HS players? Recruiting is the lifeblood of any program. ALL of them from Pete Carroll, to Urban Meyer, to Bobby in the glory days. You are sadly mistaken if you don’t think recruiting is really important.
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by SWFLNole. on Sep 27, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Terrible post.
Hey Hogs!
Hey Hogs!
Hey Hogs!
We just beat the hell out of you!
Rammer Jammer, Yellowhammer, give ’em hell, Alabama!
Pig sooie.
You're a Bama fan now? Just be careful...
Strap up, no back up, it’s jungle tactics
Livin’ practice, out of line FSUSOM get smacked backwards
I just hate Arkansas, man.
Don’t know what it is.
That this SWFLNole wanted beef
Started cocking up my weapon, slowly loading up this ammo
To explode it on a camel, and his soldiers, I can handle
This for dolo and it’s manuscript, just sound stupid
Because you're just a hater
Hey Tyler Hunter said he’d like a neck massage, you on that?
FSUSOM, When do your lies end, when does the truth begin
When is reality set in, or does it not matter
Gotta hurt, I’m your baby mama’s favorite writer
That's funny PJP just called me and said he will definitely be a Nole
FSU won’t land Tim Jernigan.
“Who shot ya’?”
Whoa
Mizell too easy
Jeff Luc is probably the fifth or sixth best linebacker prospect in the Southeast.
“Kick in ya door, wavin’ the fo-fo”
Whoa
Joyner too easy
LOL at that.
“Shot down, FSUSOM still alive, he strugglin for the phone
Fo’-fo’ blow him, when homicide comes, these three words are sung
SWFL is comin, SWFL is comin, SWFL is comin"
Demonte McAllister > Jaccobi McDaniel
“Hey lil’ soldier you ain’t ready for war
FSUSOM too strong for y’all
It’s like bringin a knife to a gunfight, pen to a test
Your chest in the line of fire with ya thin vest
You bringin that, HOW them boys gon’ win?
This is grown man BIA, get you rolled into triage
Your reach ain’t long enough, dummy
Your peeps ain’t strong enough
FSUSOM is the army, better yet the navy
He’ll kidnap your babies, spit at your lady
I bring – knife to fistfight, kill your drama
I kill you ants with a sledgehammer”
You might catch SWFL's ire with that one.
Maybe you no part of army anymore.
You are North Korea. Alone, friendless. I don’t know if they walk on grounds there, though.
I guess we can have a DK vs SOM vs SWFL free for all.
McDaniel > McAllister, for sure. Ya boy get on the field yet?
“If it’s beef
The hood know what it is
If it’s Beef
The hood know what it is
Three words 1-8-7
Man the flow got ‘em very jealous
Besides that I’m from a state where FSUSOM could be gone In 30 seconds
dickie this, dickie that, you in perry ellis
Florida sunshine compliment the heavy carrots
if it’s beef three words 1,8,7"
I have a question
How do you feel about Dan Wannstedt and Ted Ginn Jr?
“Ya shook, scared to death, scared to look”
At least I have a football team, ya know Switzerland?
Mike Bellamy makes Jeff Dyson look like Budd Thacker
“Know some real ish FSUSOM? I like you.
That’s why I didn’t wanna be the one you commit suicide to.
Forget FSUn … call me your leader.”
Come on now, that wasn't just me.
DK will stab you in the back, and he has ammo because we actually put our opinions out there.
He just walks the grounds, and doesn’t call his professor Dr, and probably flips his bangs.
I wonder if our esteemed classmates at UVA wear robes.
That might only be first years, I don’t know.
Flipped out bangs
Look incredible under the white, backwards-but-not-all-the-way-on-the-head, frat boy hat
>>---l>
Bellamy is going to UF
Were you one of the 600 Marlins fans at their last home game? Or one of 900 total?
“When I grab my sawed off
SWFL gets hauled off”
When was the last time you went to one of your team's games?
Interviewer had to force Jermaine Holmes to say he liked FSU at all, right?
“Raw dawg, get your arm gnawed off
Drop the sawed off and beat you wit the piece it was sawed off of
F blood, I wanna see some lungs coughed up
Get shot up in the hot tub til the bubbles pop up”
I wish FSUncensored was in this Blazing Saddles-esque brawl.
I’d REALLY have some ammo then.
Why did FSU kick Fred Rouse off? He’s clearly reformed. He’s just misjudged.
Im out of ammo, pretty much. I mean unless we want to talk about how bad you are on Saban's jock.
And we know you lied about hating Arkansas because you and Petrino have a little thing going too.
“You can’t move how I move,you ain’t got chips
I can blow it and don’t miss it,i got grip
I can merc you when I wanna,cuz I got clips
30-round extended .380 on the hip "
How about you and the SEC?
“best football, bar none.”
SPURRIER PLAYBOOK!?!?!?! I’ll kill you if you’re lying!!!!
“FSUSOM touches, leaves ya with not much to go home with, my skin is thick”
Can I flag this post?
Sheesh
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.
Elayne Boosler
I guess....
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.
Elayne Boosler
Yeah, you are right...
That Reid guy who decommited from UF, I cant believe we still took him. What a bum!!!
christian said we are not out of it yet and said he committed to early i believe he will still be a nole but we need to show him and other recruits we still have a pulse….he wont decide until nsd
I think we can get him back too
We just need to play well the rest of the year. Now, that’s obviously a lot to ask.
Wouldn’t hurt to see Auburn lose a couple games soon.
by tdchrisdavis on Sep 28, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Auburn will start losing once their SEC play begins
by gonolesrolltide on Sep 28, 2009 8:26 AM EDT reply actions
They look better.
Much better than last couple of years. But I agree. Conference play will probably start messing them up in a big way.
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
by onebarrelrum on Sep 28, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Telvin Smith going with Ed on his official visit
Is there any truth to this and how do we feel about Telvin’s commitment? Is this a good thing (Telvin pushing for noles) or a bad thing Telvin looking around?
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