Miami Hurricanes at the Florida State Seminoles- The Preview
When: Monday Night, 8PM Eastern (ESPN)
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We've discussed this game for ten days now, can you feel the excitement? Labor day night, under the lights, Miami and FSU again square off in another meeting of this historic rivalry.
I'm not going to re-write what we've laid out all week. We discussed Miami's defense back on Tuesday. Since then, we've been informed that Miami will be without talented freshman safety Vaughn Telemaque, and cornerback Ryan Hill. Hill was not expected to start, but Telemaque was before the final depth chart was released. Replacing Telemaque is the steadily average JoJo Nicholas. Some cane members have said that they expect Miami to blitz more often in this game, and possibly play a bit less cover two.
From FSU's perspective, this changes a few things. First, FSU's running backs absolutely must be on their game and pick up the blitz. They struggled to do that this year, and the duty really falls on Jermaine Thomas. Has coach Carter prepared his guys? He stressed it in spring and in camp, buthas he taken care of business? This becomes even more important because FSU doesn't want to leave their tight end in to block all the time. To be multiple and keep Miami off balance, FSU must sometimes release the tight end and leave their running back in to block.
it''s punch and counter punch. Last year, FSU dealt knockout blows to Miami. And in the re-match, the champion should always keep with his same strategy until he can tell what adjustments the opponent has hade. FSU's punch was their run game. The real key for FSU will be to stay in positive leverage situations (2nd and 6 or less, 3rd and 4 or less). When you have an experienced, talented offensive line, a quality running back, and an excellent running quarterback, you should be able to accomplish this. Miami had the ACC's worst run defense last year. We discussed how FSU will attack Miami with their option game here. Miami couldn't defend teams that utilized a running quarterback last year (NC State, FSU, Georgia Tech), or Zone Blocking teams (Cal), all of which FSU does very well. FSU should come out and run the football. If Miami can't stop it, FSU will control the game and win going away. If Miami does stop the running game, then the strategy starts.
If Miami stops the run game with only their front-7 defenders, they will win the football game. That's extremely difficult to do without a big talent advantage, particularly against a team that involves all 11 offensive players in the run game. That's not to say it can't happen at all, just not consistently. So Miami will have to cheat (legally). First, they will probably use some run blitzes, which just as the name implies, are blitzes designed to stop the run game. These can be particularly effective against the zone-read play that FSU runs so well because it muddies Ponder's read. But it also exposes Miami to big runs. When you run blitz and miss, there are fewer defenders to tackle the runner once he clears the line of scrimmage. It can be particularly dangerous to run-blitz a team willing to run the otpion, which FSU is.
But the option isn't the only thing FSU can do against run blitzes. Playing in a two-tight end set can spread Miami out more than the traditional I-formation does, which means the blitzers have to come from a slightly longer distance, increasing the chance they never get to the ball-carrier. It also opens up great opportunities for cutback running. FSU runs very few counter plays because their zone-running scheme has naturally built in cut-backs which serve as counters. Think of it like this: "FSU runs a counter play when the opponent leaves themselves open to the country, and they do it during the play, not by guessing that the defense will do something as traditional counter teams do." So Miami will run-blitz at their own risk. If they run blitz a lot, I would expect more variance in the run game. More tackles for loss but also more big plays.
Another way Miami will look to stop FSU's run game will be by using 8 men in the box (1 deep safety instead of two, moving one of the safeties down closer to the line of scrimmage). It is tougher to run against this look, because there are simply more defenders within a close proximity to the ball. FSU should expect this, and our friends at Cal have broken down how a zone running team (like FSU, or Cal), can gain a numerical advantage even against an 8-man front. Go read that article and then come back. Once again, running 8 in the box is a good way to stop the run, but it can also lead to giving up big plays because the potential tackler's angles are much sharper.
But if Miami really starts to focus on the run, as legendary zone-blocking offensive line coach Alex Gibbs says "gentlemen, it is time to get out of the [!*?*#D!!&] run." And this year, FSU should be able to pass a bit more. If Miami decides to blitz a lot, expect FSU to get them with the screen game. FSU is an excellent screen team because their linemen are so quick and athletic, they can get out and block smaller, quickder defenders. It's a joy to watch Rodney Hudson on these plays. Not only can FSU run their bubble screens (those quick passes out into the flats), but they can also run screens to running backs Jermaine Thomas and Chris Thompson. They can run middle screens to Jarmon Fortson. There was some great discussion on what else FSU can run in the Cane's defensive preview. The bottom line for the 'Nole offense will be to stay with what worked last year and don't throw changeups until Miami shows they are willing to dedicate their personnel to stopping what FSU killed them with last year, particularly with Miami missing one and a half starters on their defense.
But what about the FSU defense against the Miami offense?...
We recently discussed the Cane's offense. Read that if you haven't already done so. So Miami's offense should be better, but it's unknown how much better. Can Jacory Harris play well? I'm not sure.
One thing I do know, however, is that Miami is going to look to pound Florida State's defense with the run game. FSU's run defense was not good last season, and the defense overall has played poorly so far. Most FSU fans don't expect much of FSU's defense this year. There are two things the defense must do to win this game.
First, stop the run. If Miami can run on FSU successfully, they will win the game. FSU needs to play smart, disciplined football and throw everything it has at the run game. Run blitzes, shifting formations (maybe a 5 man or 3-man front?) 8 in the box against pro-style sets, etc. We'll discuss the consequences of that later.
Second, take away the middle of the field. In our preview of the Canes offense, we linked a scouting report on Miami's new offensive coordinator. He likes to throw the ball to the backs a ton and to the sidelines. However, the key for FSU will be to take away the middle of the field. Regardless of what Whipple wants to do, Harris' strengths are throwing the ball with accuracy and touch in the middle of the field. We have yet to see him throw it well outside the hashmarks.
So load up the box, stop the run, and take away the middle of the field. What will Miami do against this? Assuming FSU can slow the run game down, Miami will look to the air. And as we discussed earlier, they have excellent playmakers at wide receiver. So FSU will play one-on-one coverage with little help over the top. That puts a ton of pressure on the defensive backs, and they are likely to get burned. That's okay. It's a calculated risk FSU should take. I am willing to trade a bomb or two for consistently stopping Miami's run game and not allowing Harris the short easy throws. Don't get ticked off if the defensive backs get burned a bit. FSU will look to force Miami into a high risk-high reward passing game. If the run game isn't there, that's a game the FSU defense will win because they will consistently put Miami into long situations.
The other important thing is to get pressure in Harris' face and not lose contain. The defensive ends must play disciplined, not this out of control garbage we've been accustomed to at FSU over the past few years. The defensive tackles must get push. If they get push, Harris can't step up in the pocket and he doesn't have the arm to hurt FSU if he can't step into his throws. If he is able to consistently step up, he will have a big day. If FSU puts him in long downs and can get some creative nickel packages on the field, they can dial up some wild blitzes to confuse Harris.
We discussed the special teams last week. Miami has a big advantage in almost every area of the special teams. I expect at least one big runback from the Canes.
Overall, FSU has more game-ready talent, they have the home field advantage, and the experienced quarterback. This game should come down to leverage. If FSU can stay in good down and distance, they will move the ball on Miami and hit big plays not because they forced them, but because Miami will get impatient and leave themselves vulnerable to those big plays. On the defensive side, Miami's offense will also hit some of those as well because they have a scary amount of talent. But Miami probably won't be able to stay in 2nd and 6 or less, 3rd and 3 or less, and that means that they will have to depend on the high-risk/ high-reward stuff. Even giving the special teams advantage to the canes, the difference in this game will be that while FSU will pick and choose when to try for the big stuff, Miami will be forced to go for the big stuff, and not always in favorable situations. That should create a turnover or two by the Canes. Maybe the 'Noles can return one. And remember that both teams should have some sloppiness, seeing that this is the first game. Discipline and composure are the key.
The Pick: FSU 31, Miami 23.
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Excellent Article!
Pumped as pumped could be!!!
A lot of dang injuries to the DTs
New to me is Demonte McAllister being out. Ouch!
WTF happened to McAllister?
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
I would be here at gametime Monday night but.....
I’ll be in Sec 122, Row 32. This is the first game I have been able to make in 2 years so I can’t wait.
about the screens I saw one today by ND that was awasom
It was 3 wr, the TE was lined up off the line about 2×2ft the T. the RB was lined up Strong side came in to block opposet side of the TE and flaired out taking all 3 LB with him and the blocking TE put his hands up and took one step in and then a sec after the RB flaired out the TE went the to the top after the Slot 2WR ran go / post to run of the S and CB who covered them. It didnt work as well as it should have but I could see that play go big.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Well I hope you are right about Fsun
So far there is a lot about he ACC that is just not right. somthing is off and we need to step up and make some noise. The ACC is getting bashed and made to look like fools. I can deal with it because if we can step up and make some noise this year. (we dont have to beat UF) but we could take back the ACC and bring it some respect. WF, Duke,NCST, and UVA are all bad teams. I dont know about BC but this is sad and we need to make something happen because Everyone is giving the ACC so much crap right now.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Well BYU beating Oklahoma
Certainly makes things even more interesting now. We’re certainly going to have the stage to make some noise.
Yep
Bad night for the ACC…IF we and BYU are undefeated in two weeks that could be a huge game. BYU runs the table they MIGHT be in the national title picture.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Sep 6, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
How impresive did BYU look? I wasn't able to watch it much.
I know that Bradford was hurt early on, so that should be taken into account.
" And He drank the world's sin so He could carry you in, and give you life"
Good enough to beat OK
Usually, no one looks good in their first game of the year, unless you play Charleston Southern or Akron.
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
BYU's defense is surprisingly good.
Max Hall is very accurate if he’s given any time. They use their tight ends well.
I had Pitta last year in Fantasy, future NFLer.
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
I don't think they looked "impressive" good, but not "impressive"
I would say Max Hall was impressive and the Dline looks better than expected…however let’s remember they only won by a point (14-13) Bradford was out for most of the game, and the Oline for Oklahoma is VERY green.
Yeah, right!
yes bad night for the ACC
At least one ACC team will win on Mon
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Virginia, Duke, Wake, Maryland
are all bad teams.
Clemson may not be as good as we originally thought. VaTech is not a top 10 team.
VT has a Def but thats it.
There ST is good but They have no Offense just like NCST.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
DL looks to be our biggest question mark going into Monday night
Really need our DTs (Moses McCray, Kendrick Stewart and Jaccobi McDaniel) to have a monster game. If UM can control the line of scrimmage, it will be a long night for the defense.
by FtLauderdaleNole on Sep 6, 2009 1:00 AM EDT reply actions
The way these defensive injuries are piling up
We may well be forced to take some offensive lineman, Faircloth, Ganguzza, Davis or Snider and put them in at defensive tackle. This doesn’t look good at all.
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FSU offense will be stopped
Last year, Ponder was not the focus of the defense…they wanted to keep control of A Smith and still protect the pass because of Carrs freaky size and Parkers great athelticism. Against, the UM, all of your succesful plays when you ran were zone read options right up the gut and Ponder would keep off Speed Option.
It is going to be a long day for you boys.
Must have been even longer days for you in english class.
Although it doesn’t appear you paid much attention.
" And He drank the world's sin so He could carry you in, and give you life"
That explains why FSU gashed Miami's defense on the ground
But what the hell happened the rest of the season?
Also, bad news when you key in on a player (A. Smith) and he scores 4 TD’s anyway. Even worse news when a large portion of your fan base literally has some excuse for every single bad thing that happens on the field as if those excuses change the outcome of the game or the record at the end of the season. Antone Smith ran a ball straight up the gut on 3rd and 20 with the game on the line behind the youngest Offensive line in all of college football and he wasn’t touched until he was 15 yards downfield.
So i’m curious, who’s the focus of the Miami defense this season? And will that player be allowed to score 4 TD’s? Ponder is the focus, what will be done about Jermaine Thomas? How about our WR’s? Are they not a concern at all (like i’ve heard many UM fans say recently, as if Miami’s secondary is simply stellar)?
by truenole87 on Sep 6, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
much better response that my childish remark.
" And He drank the world's sin so He could carry you in, and give you life"
A little friendly advice for JDubPhin
I don’t know where you are getting your information from but you could not be more wrong. First of all to make a general statement like “FSU offense will be stopped” in TN with out quoting real stats that support your herbal induced delusions, is just laughable. You obviously have NOT done your home work. Please read up on the offensive stats from last year.
Nice article here:http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4437581
Some stats:http://bcftoys.blogspot.com/
Some more stats:http://footballoutsiders.com/varsity-numbers
There is more to take into account then whet ever uneducated blogs/columns you have been reading.
So next time you decide to come to our house and piss in our cornflakes you may just want to make sure you are not standing directly in front of the fan.
GO NOLES!
by Renegade_NOL3 on Sep 6, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Thank you for the advice
An ad hominem attack proves the weakness in your argument. It is hilarious that you think that reading a few articles from Football Outsiders (which I have been following for years) make you a quant guru. My favorite quote about statistics:
The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination
Statistical analysis should be view with Skepticism not religion…especially when authors have already made a conclusion and are looking for numbers that support their theory.
Look at my “biased” statistical analysis in the Miami Offense preview…correlation by causation.
Most importantly, a lot has changed for FSU over the last few weeks. You are banged up on the DL and on defense, you need to win the battle in the trenches. Miam is laoded at the skill positions but our OL is questionable. FSU lack of depth on the DL and void of any superstars nuetralizes Miami biggest offensive weakness. If the U has time and sapce to make plays….it will be a LONG LONG LONG day for the Noles.
Um, Miami is banged up on the DL, brah.
I dizzont thizzink the lizzack of any supastahs will hizzurt us.
Well, duh.
If the U has time and sapce to make plays….it will be a LONG LONG LONG day for the Noles.
The same for FSU. Your DL is so undisciplined.
And who are Miami’s superstars?
Miami has a bunch of young talent that hasn't done anything yet
But they seem to be confident that their talent is for real and ours is for funsies.
It was advice, not an attack. Maybe the “herbal induced delusions” part was a bit out of line on my part and for that I humbly apologize for your wounded, pride? ego? It still does not clean the egg off your face or help the indigestion from the crow in your belly! (or was that speared and chopped Ibis?)Theory? How is it theory when we rushed for 346 yard on 53 attempts @ 5.8 yards per rush. We held the ball for 39:23 of that 60 minutes. We have returned our entire offensive line that helped rack up 41 points last year, and they have only gotten better. Not to mention you can bet the pass protection and run blocking will be a lot better this year as well. I think our D will do fine against your “questionable OL” Did you read truenole87’s response? I noticed you had noting tangible in response for him? Your right I’m in no way a football guru but even I would be able to taste the toejam from my own foot. It is a little late for back pedaling now. Conversely your don’t need “superstars” to make plays, it’s coaching and teamwork. Our defense will hold Miami to a lot less points then we will score on them. We will run the ball a lot more effectively against the Miami D then last year. *Hic This lamp post is an awesome crutch!
GO NOLES !
by Renegade_NOL3 on Sep 6, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh and also
Miami has not had 4 games to scout.
by Renegade_NOL3 on Sep 6, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Loaded at the skill positions?
UM’s WR are still overhyped talent and nothing more. I know that’s tough to hear, I know people keep SAYING how good they are. But the fact remains that not a single player in that group had more 31 catches and 340 yards receiving. Our 3rd leading receiver was right in that ball park and he wasn’t even a starter.
Overhyped?
I don’t think anyone feels these kids are overhyped. They were all true freshman last year other than Leonard Hankerson who will be a junior.
FSUncensored even will disagree with you.
We have everyone back from last year, one year older, and a FAR superior Coordinator. Jarvaris James will be playing who gives us a solid power back who get tough yards between the tackles. I have not seen since his freshmam year but he has uncanny backside cut vision like Edge. He has just been hurt the last 2 years….he is supposedly in best shape of life…I am excited..but cautiously. Coop is Coop. He will be the guy…big play.
Frankly, I don’t know who is going to win nor will I make a prediction. I want to win more than anything but I much rather lose by 3 points and have all these young guys really take the next step. If that happens, you will have to play very well to beat us, its possible, if you play a great game and beat us but we look “really” good, then we both walk away a happy man. Progress. Because we have a possible championship caliber team next year if all holds. Every game…progress.. progres
You may have heard to this from me before….you are going to be so blown out of the water from what you see out of Jacroy Harris tommorow. Forget the hype and all this Marve crap. By the way, Marve was my least favorrite QB of all time, worse than Kirby & Kyle. He was awful. I am sop happy he is gone. But let me say this…
I coach as a volunteer in Miami and a lot of my kids are from the Liberty City & Carol City Area. I watched him in high school…I have never watched a lot of high school games except my own but me and a few other coahces would go to their games because they were so freakin good. A Jacroy was their leader, all the way up since PeeWee…
I think you see his line look like this
Att 28
Cmp18
65% Cmp
216 yds
1 INT
2 TD
I hope you mean Whipple > Nix...
Because Whipple has nothing on Fisher….
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Yes overhyped
As in UM fans talk these kids up as if they ARE the greatest WR corp in the history of Miami football when that is still yet to be seen and it certainly isn’t a conclusion that has been drawn based on performance. Whipple has also never proven himself as a D-1 coordinator. He won’t be coaching against UMass competition and he never cracked a coordinator job in the NFL. He was also passed on by Boston College and what he accomplished as Big Ben’s QB coach in Pittsburgh is a tad overstated (elite NFL defense and elite NFL running game make things a little easier, but credit is still due). To say that he’s a FAR superior coordinator is jumping the gun. He’s running a young offense with a spotty offensive line, an albeit smart QB but with that has a weak arm and a true freshman backup and nothing behind that. There’s a lot of hype behind Whipple but whether or not his success will translate at all in Miami, let alone the very first game of the season is yet to be seen.
by truenole87 on Sep 7, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
FSUn
Am I the only one that has heard the obscene amount of hype surrounding UM’s receivers??? Like I said above, I don’t doubt their PHYSICAL ABILITY, but as far as actual production on the field it simply hasn’t translated yet which puts them in the exact same boat as our receivers.
Bud, does the prediction count for the news about our injuries at DT?
It seems we will be pretty thin there. What are your thoughts or have they not changed since your last breakdowns?
Anyone elses thoughts?
" And He drank the world's sin so He could carry you in, and give you life"
What happened to Demonte?
Anyone know the extent of his knee injury?
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
doesn’t sound good
Haha hey guys I’m a Canes fan and I’ll try to watch my grammar. I don’t know a ton about the injury situation to the FSU d-line but it doesn’t sound good. Fortunately for you guys I think this may be the only facet on the defense that could take a hit considering the UM O-line leaves something to be desired. Miami’s line has some size on your boys but this is really, in my opinion, the question mark of this team. Aside from the senior captain Jason Fox at LT there are no prized pigs on our line. There is no depth either. We might have 6-7 guys who can play right now. I think the real battle will be UM’s talented d-line against that o-line of yours. I think Shannon took it pretty badly about Miami’s run defense last season and has really focused on it during the spring. Another factor may be in the injuries to Ryan Hill and Telemaque, two guys who are expected to contribute a lot this year in the defensive secondary. They were injured during Saturdays practice. This might mean nothing to an offensive game plan but who knows. We will have to see but I can’t see FSU replicating the performance they did on the ground last year.
I'd understand you not being able to see it
But I don’t think it can go without note that our offensive line has improved greatly since then. For 3 of our starting O-linemen that game was the 5th of their career. I don’t question that there will be much improvement for Miami on defense, I can’t quantify how much of a better back Jermaine Thomas is for our system than Antone Smith was. I know he only had 2 carries against UM last season, averaging slightly over 25 yards per, but it told much more than people realize. Both of his carries were longer than any Smith had all day for a reason, he has better vision and better cutback ability. He’s also much more difficult to bring down. Despite Smith’s success against UM last season reaching the end zone, people fail to remember than he only averaged 3.4 yards per carry in that game. I don’t expect the average for Thomas to be that low. I think we’ll be exploiting the lack of size at DE and the fact that both Ojomo and Moncur will be out as well.
This is completely correct
Antone was mildly effective in the UM game outside a couple runs. Ponder’s runs were really effective, and Jermaine is a much better back especially for our system. When I looked through the game logs, I was surprised by Antone’s inconsistency outside of the TD runs against UM.
" but I can’t see FSU replicating the performance they did on the ground last year.'
The running game will not only be duplicated but surpassed. It is how FSU will win the game. The FSU defense will be thin and shakey but the running game will shock the canes. They won’t won’t be able to stop it and after the game will be asking who were those masked men.
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Wow I didn’t know Kenny Powers was an FSU fan.
I loved your book: "You’re fucking out. I’m Fucking in."
I think my prediction of the ACC being weaker overall from last year looks accurate.
However it is early, and the ACC started slow last year, too…
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Moses McCray
Pretty much MUST have a good game. He is our 300lb+ body in the middle. Combine him with a committee on the other side and I’m slightly hopeful.
Again, the curious case of Demonte McAllister?
Anyone have more info on his knee? We have NO depth at DL. You hear that Willis and every other Dline prospect in the country? You want playing time come to FSU.
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb

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