Setting the Record Straight... Miami vs. FSU
One Fan's Perspective
This is just my perspective on the game last night. I know it will find a little lash back here, but that's okay. This is the way I saw the game, and consequently see the future.
Things we can agree on:
Since I know up front there will be a few things that are against the general stream of thought here, I'll start with some things I think we all agree on.
1. The Defense has a LONG way to go. There's no arguing here. While Miami is a little further along offensively than I expected, the defense was not good at all and quite simply cost us this game. We all agree on this point. I think my view of why may be slightly different, but we'll get to that later.
2. Our Offense is in very good hands. Granted Miami sat in zone all night and let us take it to them, but I'm not sure what else they where supposed to do. Most of the few times they did bring pressure, we torched them (or should have). Our line is fabulous, and recievers are speedy, and our QB was picking them apart. They were left with little choice but to try and keep things in front of them.
Parting Company: At least on point of view.
My take on our Defense will be a little against the grain. I'm wide open to discussion, but this is what I saw last night personally.
1. Mickey's play calling was not THAT bad. He made some wholesale changes in the Defensive packages he's running. We ran our typical 4-3 but also mixed in 3-4, and no it was not our typical 3-4. We zone blitzed...alot. I have to tell you on the second or third series when we gave this look I was elated, and he continued to run it off and on throughout the night. We sat back in it, blitzed from it, dropped ends and tackles into coverage from it. The big play by Greg Reid was a blitz out of this look. Aparently he did learn something from his time with Parcells in the offseason. The problem was this... OUR D LINE SUCKED& Our secondary was average!!!
We don't have enough horses up front to make this or ANY package work right now. There were some blown plays in the secondary, but this package would have looked much better had we any inkling of a pass rush. Fault Mickey for poor recruiting, fault him for not getting the right body types, but I think he is trying to turn the corner strateigically. This years recruiting focuses on the types of players we need in the front seven to make this scheme work (a combo of 4-3 and 3-4). I like where we seem to be headed, it's just taken way to long to start getting there.
Future outlook: Until we get the OLB and DL horses we will continue to be missing something. We are a solid two years away defensivey IF we round out the front seven in recruiting this year. Oh and can we please hurry up and develope our young Safties... PLEASE!?
2. Miami is further along than we anticipated, but not that far. Whipple called a good game and the young stars for Miami are starting to shine. I don't think I quite expected them to execute this well. However, let's call this what it was. Any descent QB with this much time and this many fast recievers is going to light any secondary on fire. They are progressing, that's why they ultimatley where able to keep up, but they will not look this good against defenses like VT and UNC.
Future Outlook: Miami is on the way back as are we. Both teams have some serious ground to cover still, starting with continued recruiting. They are physically closer than we are. The real difference is their Deffense is STILL Vanilla, and we will eventually have enough horses up front. I'm going on record saying if the trend continues this painful battle of offenses verses inept Defenses will morph into the Miami v. FSU it once was, Title implications and all. It will simply take a little more time.
3. Greg Reid is a baller! Kick returns, nickle back, saftey, pass ruser, Greg Reid can do it all. The highlight of the night was after he forced the pick on Jacory Harris. Greg is standing on the bench, all 67 inches of him, waving a towel. He had to be thinking to himself, "and this Division I thing is a peice of cake". Let's hope we continue to develope his skill. Know this! When the game is on the line or the ball is in his area, HE - WILL-MAKE-BIG-PLAYS!
Future Outlook: Good. The kid is going to make plays here for a long time!
4. Miami ran a LOT of way loose cover two. I'm torn here, because I'm not sure what else they were supposed to do. They ran cover 2 (not a lot of cover 3) and pushed the corners to gaurd the sticks instead of the usual first 5 yards in their zones. there were two safties most of the night. But blitzes only had limited sucess, and their front 4 was not getting pressure. I would have done something different, but I don't think that the kind of plays they needed last night was in their play book. That's their problem.
Future Outlook: Their defensive play calling is still inept. This is a good future sign for us. If they continue to be vanilla, we will eventually pass them by with our defense. I'm just sick that we looked as bad as they did last night!
In the end...we should still have won.
a. overthrow by ponder going into the half could have put us a field goal or more from winning.
2. P-Rob's bad angle on the 3rd and forever kept Miami's second to last scoring drive alive, we probably take the lead if they punt and don't look back.
D. we still came one catch and one fumble from winning, it just hurts that we did not!
That's all I've got, tell me your thoughts on last nights craziness!
0 recs |
35 comments
|
Comments
I'm with you
I thought Mickey mixed it up a bit with his looks. Not the adjustments I would have liked to have seen, but really, give anyone 5-6 seconds to throw and you know what you’re going to get, and that’s what we saw. It would make NFL corners look like idiots.
Some of the matchups we put out there were not good, and some of our secondary players are just that bad.
Reid is a beast
Great Analysis
Recruiting better players is of the utmost importance for the defense, could not agree more.
However, one thing I would add though, special teams and DE’s were horrible in this game and have been for a while with exception of one or two players playing great due to sheer talent alone. Jody Allen is not doing his job, sorry but this is not the place to just get by sometimes. He has to be replaced or as you will see this year, we will be shredded on returns and diced in our secondary due to absolutely no pass rush with blitzing.
Special Teams
looked like Special Ed.
What happens if you kick the ball out of bounds on the kickoff? I thought the other team got it on their 35 or the 50 depending on where it went out? That’s from NCAA football ‘03 though, so maybe that’s not what happens.
As far as I can tell, every kickoff should be to the up-backs, or damn, even an on-side kick. The other team will have the ball in that position after the runback anyway.
Hopkins was good
My special ed comment is the kickoff coverage.
Running Game
I’m a little suprised that we didn’t run the ball more especially in the fourth Q. The zone blocking was really starting to pick up those tired Miami players and we finally broke some big runs. Regarding special teams, great job by Hopkins (minus the extra point), it looks like we got a good replacement for Gano.
Also thank goodness for Greg Reid, give me five more of him in the secondary and on kick returns. Also I don’t know who made the call to play him up on that last return since it was obvious Miami wasn’t going deep, but it was encouraging to see someone was actually paying attention.
Overall I’m disappointed with the loss but I think we can put enough points on the board to keep up with anybody in the ACC. Unfortunately, we’ll probably be in a lot of nail biters.
by Darkhorse99 on Sep 8, 2009 12:33 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Rec for
Also I don’t know who made the call to play him up on that last return since it was obvious Miami wasn’t going deep, but it was encouraging to see someone was actually paying attention.
As much as we (including myself) like to piss all over Jody Allen, that was a heads up call to bring up Reid up on the last kickoff. It might be worth putting some other hands and speed people on that second line for future reference if our future opponents intend to squib kick to keep it out of Reid’s hands.
Aside from Reid and Hopkins, that was the only other good thing about ST last night.
But I'm funny how? I mean, funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh... I'm here to f**kin' amuse you?
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em
Spot on about Miami's D.
I would more concerned with Miami’s defense than FSU’s. I thought the play calling wasn’t that bad and some of the blitzes were wonderfully timed and executed.
Your problem is the lack of talent and size and skill more than scheme.
Miami’s defense on the other hand looks bad. They got two lucky turnovers and got lucky that FSU was in no man’s land on that last set of plays. Georgia Tech is going to shred that defense. I don’t care if they have five years to prepare they will not stop G-Tech. Their linebacker and line play is non existent and they run the most vanilla defense I have ever seen. That’s what you get when half your staff is former ’Cane players who can barely read. What is all the hype about Sean Spence? Guy got turned inside out by a polish tight end.
Offensively I was impressed by Miami. I haven’t seen that good of a play call in a college game in a while. That’s what you call a schematic advantage. Looking at you Chuck Weis.
Their receivers look pretty good but not great. Benjamin is overrated. I don’t what to make of their backs. Are they ineffective ’cause of their line/scheme or do they suck? Cooper looks like a better return man than running back and James looks like he is only on the team because of his relation to the edge.
There was a firefight!!!!
Reid is a beast but to start Ofuckup Jeniji over him is a joke
If Reid does not start next week and from hereon out then we should sponsor a lynching of Micky Andrews
physically he is so small that he would get punished by tall recievers
I think they did a slam bang up job of finding a way to utillize his talent early without exposing his size and current lack of strength.
Yeah, right!
Did you not see that guy's ups?
He may be 5’5" but he has to have a 40"+ vertical. Heck, he had to jump up to grab Harris’ arm. I’ll take him over Mangum or Jenije any day of the week.
I mean that he is not big. covering run from the field corner consistently would be very hard as he would have trouble shedding blockers.
that’s why they put him in a nickle/rover/saftey type spot. Use his cover skills keep him from getting blasted by run blockers.
Yeah, right!
He is small.
But I saw a nice tackle where he stood up a UM RB until help arrived.
you mean as opposed to the beating that our other DB's took
Greg Reid’s size is not much of a factor since he has excellent leaping ability in H.S. and was also MVP of the Under Armor H.S. all star game.
Also his pick last night resulted from Reid leaping to get the ball.
Greg Reid was rated as one of the top two corner backs in the country last year.
If were worried about Reid's size...
Then we’ll be just as worried about Joyner’s size. Who cares about their height when they make plays…I can’t wait to see the 2 of them playing across from one another in 2011….
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.
Elayne Boosler
You are all missing my point. IM NOT WORRIED ABOUT HIS HEIGHT
he can leap over an escalade. I’m worried about his weight. Corners that small with no time in the strength program will get leveled by big wide outs and pulling linemen in run situations.
Yeah, right!
Excellent Point!!!
Didn’t get to see him man-up on someone, but from the FS position he played that ball like a center fielder. It’s a good problem to have when a guy could legitimately start at multiple positions.
Great write up
I think Miami beats VT however. I am still of the opinion that any team that beats us is still a pretty good football team. Let’s put it another way VT couldn’t beat us last year and I doubt they could this year.
The only thing that can make this right in my mind now is FSU winning the division and taking revenge on Miami in the championship game. Nothing else will do.
Wake is probably grinning prematurely at this point also but they are going to get their arses handed to them.
Playstation All American, right again!
TomahawkNation
Better to bear the rebuke of the wise than to hear the song of fools
VT
I’d love a shot at VT. Alabama ran the ball down their throats with zone blocking late in the game. Our O-line could do the same. Too bad we won’t get the oppurtunity to play a team those pundits think is the best the ACC has to offer.
VT didn’t impress me at all the other night…I have no idea why they were picked so high in the preseason and whanot…I know they lost Evans…but still.
http://www.mmaforreal.com
Follow Me On Twitter@KelvinHunt
VT's Defense
Relies a hell of a lot on their special teams. I say its high middle of the road (Top 30)
You are right here There were some Pos things.
I just cant look past the Crap. This was the fastest Def MA has seen. (RIGHT) thats why we got burned. We have a wantabe LB at SS the Robs Didnt come to play. They like a walkon DE and Small thacker play. Our LB might have had a chance if the DT and DE were not getting thrown into them.
The Offense came to play and I think Easterling and Reed looked great.
I laughed MAO with the first TD because even Miamis coaches couldnt beleave we throw to the TE.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
"their front 4 was not getting pressure"
Well, in all honesty, neither of our starters at DE even dressed. Not saying it would have made that big a difference, yuor OLine are beasts. Game coulda gone either way. We both came away knowing we’re alot better offensively than we have been in years. No more Nix, no more Jeffy boy. The sky is the limit for both. I think the ACC is a year away from heving what they bargained for in expansion. Miami and FSU ruling the nation again. Won’t be long before the Gators crawl back into their hole.
by Cane Ressurection on Sep 8, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions
Great post
I am glad there are rational people out there, especially after such a crushing loss. I have seen many people criticize Mickey Andrews for being too old to learn new tricks, but then they criticized him for trying new tricks last night. You are dead on though, without the horses, you cannot compete in the race, no matter how good your jockey. I also remind people the coaches did try to recruit better defensive linemen, but as FSU’s relevance has slipped, UF has gotten so big lately and coaching changes have become eminent its probably harder to land some of them. Callahan Bright was big. He could not get his act together though. Marvin Austin had FSU in his final two, but give Butch Davis credit, he is a heck of a recruiter (ironically he had what FSU now has..offer of instant playing time).

by 




























