Florida State Recruiting Update, 01.13.10
by FSUSOM on Jan 13, 2010 8:00 AM EST
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Straight to it.
I got a call during my first class and the content was quite good. FSU is going to host a kid named Brice Schwab for an official visit. 6'8" 320lb offensive tackle stud. He is a JUCO, and the guy I spoke with believed he'd be a one-and-done type player, not that he would have only a single year of eligibility, but that he could be good enough to go pro after his junior season. Lots of questions here. He was committed to USC, which runs a similar zone-blocking scheme to what FSU runs. FSU has two returning starters at tackle, but apparently Schwab is the type of kid you don't turn down. This fits with the new FSU idea of competing for a starting spot at all times, which makes kids give a consistent championship-caliber effort. Everyone had been recruiting him like he was a SoCal kid because he had committed to USC and went to a California JUCO, but he's a country coal-miner family type kid from Pennsylvania, and could mesh well with Trickett's attitude. Here's some film:
Considering the size of 2011 commitment Trey Pettis (a huge stud offensive tackle commitment), and Trickett's comments that he'd take 300lb type kids as long as they can move.
Current 2010 commits: (click the links to read more)
- DL Darious Cummings (note: Cummings committed before FSUncensored took over the site.)
- S Chad Abrams (note: we did an overview in a March WORT after Abrams committed.)
- DE Tavaris Barnes (note: Recently decommitted to Clemson, some say it's not over)
- LB Holmes Onwukaife
- WR De'Joshua Johnson
- TE/Hback Tank Sessions
- LB Telvin Smith
- WR Jared Haggins
- DBTerrence Brooks
- DT Cameron Erving
- QB Clint Trickett
- Nigel Terrell
- Damien Jacobs
- Greg Dent
- Mike Harris
- Jeff Luc
- Lamarcus Joyner
- Kenny Shaw
Notes:
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Some say FSU has a shot with Ivan McCartney because he can't get into UM, and wants to stay closer than West Virginia.
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Mack Brown has set up officials to FSU, UF, and UGA. Although some say that he will not visit UGA or FSU. Some people really believe that FSU has a good shot.
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Demar Dorsey will visit FSU. FSU already has plenty of S, and he has lots of concerns surrounding that world class speed.
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Christian Jones and Christian Green still seem to be heavy Nole leans but want to decide on NSD. Jones' dad does hate the way Bowden's tenure ended.
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Lane Kiffin and crew leaving to go to USC has to help with current UT committs and people being recruited. Calvin Smith may be a Nole. Lemonier was seriously considering them. The main recruiters for UT are now employed either at FSU or USC.
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Jeremy Deering is a sick sick athlete, he will need a redshirt but he has amazing potential.
The 2009 USA Today Defensive Player of the Year:
LAMARCUS JOYNER
Defensive back for St. Thomas Aquinas, Fort Lauderdale
Ht. 5-9. Wt. 175.
Why him: His athleticism and 4.3 speed for 40 yards made him a impact player on defense. Also ran for four TDs on 47 attempts, caught 16 passes for four TDs, and returned three kickoffs for TDs.
Why Florida State? "A lot of schools had a lot to offer. At the end, it was just my heart to go to FSU. Going there felt like a natural adjustment. On top of that, it was my dream school. I was always a Florida State fan growing up."
Football start: "I started playing Pop Warner 110 (pounds) when I was 12 years old. Before that, I always played around the neighborhood. I didn't come from a wealthy family. You have to pay for the shirt and all that and my mom, said, 'Oh, no.' One day, one of my friends from across the yard said that he would pay for it."
How did you get the nickname Frank? "That came from Little League football, the first time I ever played. I was a hard hitter. They starting call me the beast. I would never wrap up. It was always a hard hit. They just started calling me Frankenstein."
Season highlight: "Running back a kickoff against Byrnes."
Favorite position: "Free safety."
What player did you pretend to be when you were little? "I always felt like (Baltimore Ravens linebacker) Ray Lewis."
On recruiting: "I just thank God because most guys in my shoes don't have the opportunity to go to any D-I team in the nation. My least favorite part of it is all the coaches coming after you."
After football: " I want to major in journalism. I always wanted to be on TV. I love talking about sports, and I like talking with people."
I know I'm a late on this, as genron told us about it a month ago.
Christian Green in the Army Game:
Christian Green (Tampa, Fla./Catholic) is the newbie to the position, having played quarterback his last three years in high school, but he has shown the most explosive quickness and burst after the catch. The cousin of former Florida State receiver E.G. Green beats press coverage with a combination of strength, physicality and short space burst.
Green is an excellent player.
Jeremy Deering:
A note on safety prospect Jeremy Deering, who visited this past weekend. I happen to think that he ends up in this class.
Ever wondered why Coach Coley has been hitting up Connecticut so much?
DL Bjoern Werner (6'4'' 260, Salisbury School):
Like him at SDE. Werner will be visiting FSU in a couple of weeks, and I hope this visit goes very well.
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TE/LB Will Tye (6'3'' 230 4.5, Salisbury School)
He's quite obviously an outstanding athlete for his size. Coley has been putting in work on him.
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FSU commit Holmes Onwukaife's Senior Season Highlights:
Very glad that Holmes is apart of the FSU family.
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my mistake then.
LOL.
Chop it up Seminoles!
by horsepowernole on Jan 13, 2010 9:06 AM EST up reply actions
Watched the Onwukaife (sp?)
video. The thing I like the most about him is that he is smart. He doesn’t always fall for the fake and has great awareness. Our defense can sure use smart players who don’t do stupid stuff to put the team in an awkward position (either big play or 15 yd penalty).
Saw Onwukaife play this year
He knows what’s going on all over the field, and he knows where he needs to be. I saw one play go the opposite direction of where he was lined up, and he actually went backwards and made the play downfield. He’s very smart, and he can make a tackle. He also appears to be a leader at school. He’s a character guy who could make a difference both on and off the field at FSU.
That's what I like to hear
A character type of kid with talent. I look forward to seeing him in the G&G.
by CSI Nole on Jan 13, 2010 10:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He also was quite banged up the whole year with a nasty ankle injury
and is one of our best recruiters
by Bud Elliott on Jan 13, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
He's strong and can get off the block
But he doesn’t look overly quick on film, although he does play under control.
He plays with his head up
Again, let me re-iderate, its harder to teach a player to be smart than to teach a smart player to be faster.
For example, if you run a guy through speed and quickness training, you will see results provided his body was not prevously maxed out.
However, if you sit a guy in a classroom and ask him to watch film, or you try to get a guy to become more instinctual, that becomes more of a challenge and where coaches really make their money.
Yep
He is such a presence. Not super fast, but you can tell he is a leader on the field and he knows what’s going on all over. He knows not just how to execute his assignment, but how to be where he needs to be on the field to make the play.
The game I saw was Cedar Park’s homecoming game against McNeil, and they absolutely dominated McNeil on both sides of the ball. And Holmes was on the Homecoming Court. Shows that he’s well respected at the school.
He makes plays not by out-running people but by using leverage and staying close to the play.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 13, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Excellent point FSUn.
I sometimes catch myself feeling like we have to have Olympic speed at every position…I’ve been an FSU fan for a long time, and I’m trying to break myself of that habbit. How many of us can think of a time when FSU was pounded by a team that was no where near as fast as we are, but were way more physical? The point is, with the skills that Onwukaife has, he’s fast enough.
by mountain renegade on Jan 13, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
I'd rather have a kid who can read keys, fight off blocks
and in turn, have a shorter distance to pursue plays. Whats the use of having a bunch of speedy front seven guys who got smothered every play? We have a shortage of diagnostic skills on our defense (Thanks ex-coaches), and he will help immensely with that
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 13, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Minus Mangum
I was blown away how fast the D was…if only they played with discipline!!!
Gets off blocks, tackles well, reads the play. I like this kid
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Jan 13, 2010 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
Yea you know that "simulate to end of off season" option on NCAA football
i wish i could select that right now.
by egynole on Jan 13, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
UT
committs may be more vulnerable than before for sure. I’ve heard that Lane called the EE’s and asked them to not go to class today. Pretty douchebag move.
I’d like to see us snag 1-2 of them, they had a strong class coming in. I just hope Urban Crier doesn’t grab any of them.
Chop it up Seminoles!
Who recruited D. Jones to UT
Was it Gran? Someone needs to get him on campus.
by CSI Nole on Jan 13, 2010 9:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Jones is apparently Very interested now.
Good lord, we need him. He’s a monster.
by Fire Machine on Jan 13, 2010 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
I dont know a lot about Jones.
Can anyone shed some info on him? I know he is listed as “Ath.” But what would we look for him to play if he came to FSU?
“What the hell is going on?” asked Jones. “I was sleeping and one of my coaches called. He told me that Coach Kiffin left, then I started getting texts from other players.”
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
Just from his quotes
Christian jones doesnt look to be a lock by any means. I would call it more of a slight florida state lean, but he doesnt sound like a “lock” from what hes saying.
QUOTE:
“It was a real shocker to me, Tennessee was one of my top choices,” added Jones. “USC is looking good now, I really like USC too. I was going to visit there this weekend but I’ll probably push that back.”
Christian Jones also said USC is a “great situation” with the addition of Kiffin and he understands that drastic coaching changes occur."
That guy was a beast
Man, all the winds are blowing, but what wind is blowing towards Tallahassee?
That article is a piece of shiza
Because he could have been talking about D. Jones rather than C. Jones…
There are two Jones’ listed in the article and unless it says “Christian” don’t assume that Christian was saying that.
By its context
theres no way hes not talking about CJ. His dad is willie Jones as mentioned in the article.
Pretty clear that the quote was attributed to Christian Jones
He liked USC and he liked the Kiffins. So now he is intrigued at that combination
I re-read it
And I suppose you are right.
C Jones, by the way he talks, gives us nothing to be confident in.
His Dad, also, is not really inspiring much.
I’m leaving this one up our staff and CJ’s head
I'd be shocked if he comes here
He rarely talks about Tallahassee. Didn’t take an OV here.
I know kids like to take 5 free trips and he’s probably been to FSU campus 3 dozen times, but I just don’t see it happening.
Kids often dont official to in state schools they can go to easily.
He has been an FSU fan his entire life. His family played here. He has visited a ton of times. He has a great relationship with the coaches. He loves Jeff Luc and likes the idea of playing next to him. I think he’s just like Joyner, he knows he will be at FSU while he looks around.
365 days, until I change my ways.
me too...everyone stop freaking out over one article
though I am anxious for some reason.
can’t wait for NSD
It's more than one article
He has shown little interest in FSU that I have seen. I understand the legacy with his family and FSU, but other than that, what suggests he wants to be in Tallahassee?
Well he told me they were his favorite school and its hard to give up on a life long favorite.
365 days, until I change my ways.
And in no way is that a freak-out
It won’t upset me where he goes. I just think there is some blind confidence regarding him.
people said I had blind confidence on Joyner for months as they freaked out about OSU, ND, UF, etc.
365 days, until I change my ways.
If C. Jones does visit USC would that mean he doesn't take an OV to Florida?
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 13, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
I'm more worried about him than Green frankly
The only feasible threat looks like Alabama. You shouldn’t lose a recruit to USC who wasn’t a commit or a strong lean already. Those MF’s are going on probation.
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 13, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
The Bowden PR machine was probably in overdrive
calling all former players and telling them how awful FSU was being to poor little Bobby and that they should contact anybody/everybody to stand up for him.
I cant think of a single player besides maybe D Brooks that said that maybe it was time.
the players who said nothing were obviously thinking it.
What do you stand to gain by publicly announcing that Santa Claus’s act has grown tired?
by The K-Man on Jan 13, 2010 11:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Leon Washington
said it was time. Warrick dunn was being political, but you could tell that he wasnt upset and was welcoming the change.
Kinda feel like...
the more douchebag move would have been to let them go to class.
Maybe I’m the only one, but I’m sure Lane Kiffin didn’t go to Tennessee looking to get out after one year. It’s kind of like working at your dream company for 5 years or so, without the opportunity to be the “boss”. Obviously if someone offers you a chance to go out and make (significantly) more money, and the opportunity to gain the experience to make you a viable candidate for the “boss” position whenever it opens. No one could have known that the USC job was going to open up so quickly, but I can’t really blame the guy for taking what I’m sure is his dream job.
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Jan 13, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
Corey Miller and Brandon Willis come to mind first, although its unlikely that Miller swithes from what I’ve read.
They’ve got some O-Linemen that wouldn’t be too shabby either.
Chop it up Seminoles!
dangit I meant that as a reply………mods don’t kill me!!!!
Chop it up Seminoles!
by horsepowernole on Jan 13, 2010 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
Per Pete Thamel at NYT
From: @PeteThamelNYT
Sent: Jan 13, 2010 9:11a
The hostesses leaving, too? RT @JOXRecruiting Byrnes teammates Brandon Willis and Corey Miller have de-committed from Tennessee
by CSI Nole on Jan 13, 2010 9:29 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Wait, Corey Miller may have left UT?
When he was hellbent a little while ago on getting Corey Lemonier there?
This could get interesting.
2010 ~ The Year of the Spear
We need a solid DT
Chandler is that guy. Get him Coley!
WIll Tye
WOW, Looks like a greg jones with reciever hands. Kid has great speed and size! Imagine him with vic vilorias help running the ball.
Also looks kind like a lil like Branden Warren.
Apparently, parents in CT can afford better cameras than they do down yonder. No shit…
by Fire Machine on Jan 13, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
He's got
deceptive speed. Dude can rumble
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Jan 13, 2010 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
He doesn't have any speed
You just aren’t liable to get in his way
He has great size and stability and will run through people
A great asset to have to wear down opposing secondaries who aren’t built to tackle 6’3 245 guys (I will bet he ends up a Tony Gonzalez type guy…but with more power and less agility than Gonzalez)
The thing about competition level
Is that the training you receive is on par with it…
SO just know these guys have more room to develop than the guys who have been at premier programs for their hs career
Werner Video...
Opposing team is lining up in I-formation out of shotgun. Weird. Sorry, I know that is off topic. Good read today, hopefully all the movement at UT means we pick up 1-2 recruits at positions of need.
Yeah, I was trying to think of a name for the formation also
came up with Silencer (but didn’t think it was that good).
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
I gotta give the winner to Rifle
Since the two backs behind the QB turn it into a longer barrel. Plus it sounds suh-weet
what would FSUs version of the wildcat be you think?
i kinda like Renegade
"Don't flinch, let's kill a fly with an Axe."
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ya i heard that too, pretty cool
"Don't flinch, let's kill a fly with an Axe."
>>>──────►
This is where Coley will make his money...
There now seems to be a bunch of great recruits that can be flipped (UT losing Kiffin, UGA lacking a DC), so we have to prioritize and then go hit the ones we want the hardest. Sure we could get to all of them, but we can’t take all of them…
"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath
this recruiting period is really getting to me
last night i dreamed that mack brown committed to miami and it actually woke me up so i could make sure it wasn’t true
2010 Seminoles. National Champions in my heart.
All we know is...
He’s called The Stig!
by ArsonistSavior on Jan 13, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
it's from Top Gear
one of the best shows on TV
by ArsonistSavior on Jan 13, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
every time the introduce The Stig
they begin it by saying “Some say…”
by ArsonistSavior on Jan 13, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
check it out
this is when they came to Alabama
by ArsonistSavior on Jan 13, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
If Christian Jones boycotts FSU for UF because Bobby's tenure ended poorly...
….his dad could potentially feel awful silly with how Urban Meyer’s coaching tenure might end.
by The K-Man on Jan 13, 2010 10:21 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I think C. Jones ends up at USC
He already like USC and Tennessee now USC has Tennessee’s coaches. I hope I am wrong because we can’t loose a legacy recruit like that but I really think that’s where he ends up. At least it won’t be the Gayturds.
miami
Speak softly, and carry a big Spear
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 13, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
If Jones and his dad have a problem with how Bowden was treated at the end
How can they be cool with the way Kiffin just treated UT? Not trying to put words in their mouths, but if they are saying FSU lacks integrity for the way it treated Bowden, you can’t possibly believe Kiffin has any shred of integrity. It goes both ways…
I trust Jimbo will have a good sit down with Willie and it will be resolved.
Jimbo is probably very good on a living room sit.
Again, an easy solution:
We point out that it was TK who fired Bowden, and that he’s gone now :)
"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." Jack Handy
by PeachTreeNole on Jan 13, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
no one fired him
he chose not to accept a reduced role
FSU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES!!!!
IT SHOULD NOT HAVE ENDED THAT WAY!
Err...
Sarcasm? I hope?
Actually, the situation could have been handled better (neither TK or Spetman speaking publicly was stupid), but it was the right move for the program.
I think he ends up at FSU
USC is going to be on probation soon for the free money, cars, and houses they give to their players and families.
Non Mollare, non mai mollare!
ItaliaNole A.K.A. SavvysNole
Michael Taylor to UF?
That was quick…I guess that’s just one less scholly available for Mr. Jones.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 13, 2010 10:37 AM EST reply actions
H. Onwukafe
looked better smarter on the field than our backers this year.
Dude had a scholarship to Haaaahvad
Still cant figure out why he would pass that up. Football is one injury away from irrelevance while a degree from Harvard is for life.
With 6-8 open slots left
Who do we get in the closing hours?
My guess
We still pull:
Jones
Green
Mitchell
Lemonear
Smith
Tye
Werner
maybe Deering and/or Brown
by osceolafan850 on Jan 13, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Forgot to add Chandler
All the movement by the coaches looks like it will really help our dline problem. I am starting to be a lot less concerned. I know all the names sound like a lot buy Jimbo went on record saying we are looking to take around 29 kids.
by osceolafan850 on Jan 13, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
Is Chandler the kid who has a verbal to USF?
Does he even have an offer from FSU?
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 13, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Haha
In Bjoern Werner’s highlight tape at 3:27 the QB is like my best friend lol. Its funny to see him on someone else’s highlight reel for a change.
Haha
Thats pretty cool…What school in COnnecticut is that?
I used to live in Brookfield myself but moved b4 hs
my entire family
lives in and around Enfield.
Werner went to Salisbury School
But my friend is going Trinity Pawling which is in NY. We played at a small school in NY called Cornwall and he didn’t get recruited as well as he hoped so he went to Prep school rather than going to a division 2 or 3. It shows how hard it is to get recruited in NY he won NYS player of the year and didn’t get one Division 1 offer.
Lol go on youtube
Search Kevin Arduino. My high school is the black and green jerseys, not sure if his prep tape is on youtube yet. The tape is impressive and while you are watching it look for #24. yours truly :)
im from across
the river in poughkeepsie, ny. cornwall has a solid program. its hard to get kids noticed, but the last couple of years its picked up
Based on what he and Miller were saying about our program
to other recruits (from what I’ve been told), we don’t want him.
by ladyjustice on Jan 13, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
That we are going on probation,
they’d never be on TV, that our coaches were liars, etc.
So I’m told, anyway.
by ladyjustice on Jan 13, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
probation?
we already are on a self imposed probation. The NCAA has denied FSUs appeal. Isnt this whole thing over now? And if anyone shouldnt be taking about probation its UT lol…AND USC (both schools christian jones is looking at)
I would hope that this is point has been cleared up by now
Anyone else thinking we’re going on probation needs to stay in HS.
It has been
Their comments to this effect were made previously. We’re not getting any of the Byrnes kids, though.
>>---l>
Juco DT Deas
Haven’t heard anything on him lately. Is he a grades/qualifying issue?? Will he make it to Tally??
by FtLauderdaleNole on Jan 13, 2010 11:29 AM EST reply actions
He is a grades/qualifying issue
Nobody is sure if he’ll get here. I’ve heard conflicting reports.
>>---l>
Demar Dorsey will likely get placed by Florida State at a JUCO or Prep
I know a family friend of his and I was told that Demar does not like the fact that Elam is going to Florida.
by Legal_Seminole on Jan 13, 2010 11:35 AM EST reply actions
Just passing along what I've heard.
I spoke with one of his Coaches briefly and I was told that he is looking around. When I asked if Florida State had a shot at him he told me yes they have the best chance.
by Legal_Seminole on Jan 13, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
Corey Cooper?
Seems like his relationship with Stoops just might get him here..
I see the talk of Delvin Jones above.
Is there any real word that he is interested in us or is the preliminary rumor mill starting because Gran was his primary recruiter to UT? Rivals has his other previous schools of interest being SEC with a random Nebraska on his list.
The guy looks like a man-child and has a very lean but muscular frame to build on—6’6, 230 and likely as of summer ’09. His ’08 stats show primarily at DE and a little at TE (guessing on the positions here). He had 20 sacks as a junior.
What he's saying is Coley and Gran are GRINDIN' the 305 right now.
Be back in a few minutes—gotta go post this on three other message boards.
I mean our coaches
MIami FSU UF no offer. Usually a reason
by Bud Elliott on Jan 13, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
I noticed that too...
I’m more excited about Holmes after watching that…Now if I could just pronounce his name, I’m sold.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 13, 2010 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
I don't even try to spell it
He’s “Holmes O” to me. If he gets All-ACC status I will do him the honor of learning it. Although I said the same about Caz as well.
Speak softly, and carry a big Spear
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 13, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously though, can either of you guys break down the pronunciation?
In my head its something like “Ahn woo kay fuh”, but that cannot be remotely close.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 13, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Own - woo - kayf
Is my best guess.
Maybe it’s on – woo – kayf
Speak softly, and carry a big Spear
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 13, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
Rather concerned with UF getting ready to offer Deering. A 3* player with good upside it seems
Looks like they may be trying to keep him from FSU. Especially after what went down with Jeffcoat
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 13, 2010 12:14 PM EST reply actions
Hopefully he sees their depth chart and reconsiders
Will Hill Jr.
Ahmad Black Sr.
Dee Finley (rs) So.
Matt Elam
Johnathan Dowling
Demar Dorsey
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 13, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
AD maybe
HC, bad move. Like us, UT needs to move in a new direction. Unless Fulmer had a heck of a year, UT fans would start grumbling again very soon (like, after the first loss).
Pure comedy
Looks like UT is on its way to become Ole Miss
by osceolafan850 on Jan 13, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
prediction
I’ll throw mine out there. Nothing revolutionary
QB – Trickett
RB – Smiley
WR – Green
WR – Shaw
WR – Haggins
WR – Johnson
TE – Sessions
H Back – Tye
OL – Trickett guy
OL – Trickett guy
DL – McCloud
DL – Erving
DL – Jacobs
DL – C Smith
DL – Lemonier
DL – Chandler
DL – Barnes
DL – Cummings
DL – Werner
DL – Deas (won’t qualify)
LB – C Jones
LB – Luc
LB – Holmes O
LB – T Smith
DB – Dent
DB – Joyner
DB – Mitchell
DB – Brooks
DB – Abrams
DB – Harris
DB – Deering
DB – Dorsey (wont qualify)
Just missed:
Mack Brown
Nigel Terrell
Speak softly, and carry a big Spear
Am I missing something
or did you leave Ed Christian off the OL list. Please tell me he didn’t decommit, if he did I certainly missed that and don’t like the thought of not having an OL in this class.
The USF loss really stung
I must have phased everything else out cause I just flat out forgot about that one.
Just keeping you on your toes, moving along now.
Trick, I noticed Brown is on the "just missed"
IYO does he stay at UF, or go elsewhere?
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 13, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
that was my mock
I think he goes to UF
Speak softly, and carry a big Spear
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 13, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
and Terrell to Colorado
Speak softly, and carry a big Spear
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 13, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
If he visits us I would think we land him.
No clue if he visits us. I’m no insider. But my intuition is never wrong…
Yeah,
that was sooooooo last year.
Chop it up Seminoles!
by horsepowernole on Jan 13, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
You have 32, with 2 not qualifying.
I guess it could work if Dorsey is a sign & place and we remove a Trickett guy.
Tye could be a sign & place too.
I’d remove Werner & add Akuna.
Maybe we could grey shirt Brooks, Haggins, & T Smith to make room for Mack Brown, McCartney (also poss. sign & place), Cooper or other new comers. We don’t have to figure out the sign & place kids or the grey shirts just yet. But we have some options.
There is also a possibilty that Barnes doesn’t switch back.
If Schwab comes
You might add Greenlee to that list because of PT.
Is that a Redshirt Medical Redshirt Sophomore?
I understand he still has time, just wondering if he is going to look around and see other people passing him up because of his injury setbacks and maybe look elsewhere.
Ok, I can see most of those getting axed but...
Pressley & Jones both?
The only way I could see that
is if Mack Brown signs and possibly Jones not getting on the nutrition ball with his diabetes. Or he may transfer because of PT.
Has anyone noticed the updated ESPN ratings?
They moved Dominique Easley from 30 something to number 3 after his UA game performance. Warranted?
FWIW, they now have Cameron Irving at 76 (3 Star). Thoughts?
I agree completely
but that is such a significant jump. At the end of the day, the top 20 or so are very close anyways. I just thought that 3 was a little high.
by basbalstr101 on Jan 13, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
6 of UF's recruits are from Palm Beach....
"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath
But he said "Palm Beach" which is usually a reference to PBC not Palm Beach the island.
And if 6 of UF’s recruits are from “Palm Beach” we’re definitely talking about the County and not the island.
Anyway, I was just messin with ya… :)
I meant either, since both are between PSL and the Keys.
However, NoleLaw changed it from Treasure Coast to Lake Worth, and therefore made his comment accurate. And Palm Beach (the town/island) is ridiculous.
Christian Jones just got his 5th star
At Rivals.
but only because he's taking his UF visit ;)
by Bud Elliott on Jan 13, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If so he's getting a 6th star
Speak softly, and carry a big Spear
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 13, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
and b/c he hasn't committed to anyone yet
notice Luc dropped in many rankings after committing to FSU. Hmmmm…
Powell will be #1 everywhere by the end of all evals. He is a monster.
365 days, until I change my ways.
Is it unreasonable for me to think the FSU class will close with...
Christian Jones
Christian Green
Terrence Mitchell
Todd Chandler
Corey Lemonier
Calvin Smith
Because that’s a pretty good haul. That’s pretty close to a Top 5 class.
Very reasonable.
But there is going to be a lot of stress until NSD…
If you consider Smith & Lemonier a package
5 * .90 = 4.5, round up and we get all 5 (6 because of the package)
That's not how the math works
.9^5 =53.1% (better than 50/50) :)
.9^6 =47.8%
Both are realistically coinflip situations ;)
I'll disagree with you on the math.
I think yours is a mistake that people frequently make when rationalizing their chances of winning the lotto. They think that if they choose the same numbers every time their odds will be better. That is a falacy because the lotto pulls are unrelated to one another.
Your math only accounts for the10% chance of losing 1 recruit, however there is individually a 10% chance of losing each and every recruit independently of the others.
365 days, until I change my ways.
1*0.9 + 1*0.9 + 1*0.9 + 1*0.9 + 1*0.9 = 5 *0.9 = 4.5
The 10% chance of each recruit not coming is accounted for.
If the odds of say Jones were dependent on the other 5 committing first, then using exponentials would be appropriate.
But each commitment is independent of the others, the same way that each pull of the lotto numbers is independent of each other pull.
A lawyer and a PA student debating probability theory.
I weep.
by MattDNole on Jan 13, 2010 6:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't weep: Why a lawyer debates probability theory
My undergrad was a double major in physics and math, with a minor in mech eng. After graduation I worked for a few years as a calculations specialist for a national bank and a multinational corporation.
I then spent 3 years as a systems analyst, integrating different software systems, creating interfaces and bridges, making customizations to existing software that the IT department did not officially support, designing and creating databases, automating manual calculations and data processes, and designing quality control algorithims to test new software and customizations.
I don’t like to whip that stuff out in a discussion because it essentially says I am right because of who I am, not because of the logic I use.
I also accept that I could be wrong, then I’d look like more of an ass for bringing out the background.
One of the reasons I chose UVA is that it was one of the few schools that offered an undergrad degree in astrophysics. But the physics courses and astronomy courses wound up being scheduled at the same time, so I had a coice to take the double major and graduate early or do a 5-year plan. Somewhere late in the game, in the early 90s, I took an independent study course and wrote a paper on the Higgs Mechansim, which is advanced quantum field theory that had been around since the 1960s. At that time there was no way to test the theory. There was talk of building a huge superconducting super collider in Tex. that should have been able to test the theory, but it got nixed due to budget cuts or whatever. I didn’t really feel like devoting my life to conjuring up theories that could never be tested, so I didn’t go to grad school.
Several years later I got screwed out of $3k by a national company and couldn’t afford to hire a lawyer to sue them. Didn’t like feeling powerless, so I said what the hell, why not go to law school? Figured I was as bright as the attorney I had spoken with and that lawyers would get paid just as well. I bet I got into law school for diversity reasons, because you don’t find many physics majors applying.
Now you know why a lawyer was debating probability theory.
What is a PA?
Holy Overreaction, Batman.
And yes, you are right. But when you can give me an accurate estimation of the conditional probabilities associated with commitments we’ll stop pretending they are independent events.
Check out the Large Hadron Collider at CERN in Switzerland-
well technically it’s in two country’s (Switz-France) although buried under a few hundred feet of earth, it’s fascinating stuff.
FSU has a grant proposal for a "Big Light".
Don’t laugh. It would be a huge research grant if awarded. It would fit in nicely with our magnet collection. Again, don’t laugh. They are quite remarkable things.
Not unreasonable, but not a lock.
We currently have 19 and Jimbo said he wants 29. So there is room for 4 more on your list if we do not grey shirt or sign & place everyone.
christian jones
think you can take him off the list i hear his father had a problem with bobby leaving
that is blown way out of proportion
give Jimbo, Coley, Stoops, and Hudson the chance to sit down with Jones and we will be fine
the sit down
we sent four coaches to his house a few days ago
I hope Jimbo wasn't 1 of the 4 sent then. I'd want Jimbo's in home visit to occur in ~ 2 weeks
or even in Feb.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
he is a stud
a beast ready to be unleashed hope its for us driving myself crazy
I keep hearing Miller/Willis did that..What did they claim FSU was lying about..
What were the “lies”???
They believed our probation meant no bowls, no ACC titles, no tv, etc., etc..
Someone lied to them, got them laid and possibly gave them money and they bit, hook, line and sinker.
Charles Deas???
Is there any update on Charles Deas??? Is he making the grades
No report on Deas for two months
No info should be interpreted as bad info IMO
"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett
by The Ryno and I Know on Jan 13, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
I was being sarcastic.
Since it’s only asked about 5 times per day on here. But I never mind when someone posts that pic.
I'm on thread overload
I thought I might never get to the bottom of this one. Was the Sanders argument settled? Is Urban still retiring?
My Z key is almost fully worn out now. I have to use X and C functions instead.
Nice picture by the way.
i find myself using C and X on other sites and getting confused because nothing is happening
"Don't flinch, let's kill a fly with an Axe."
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Thanks NOLEinTX I felt this was the perfect place to present those fellas
NorFla that’s hilarious. I just figured out how to use the feature sort keys tonight. This thread has reached epic proportions and is absolutely overwhelming at this point.
Corey Miller needs to make up his mind
Corey Miller STR8 UP VOL!
about an hour ago
Corey Miller If they bring in Air Force’s coach………..im out
19 minutes ago
Speak softly, and carry a big Spear
Christian Green visiting UF this weekend...
per Jox Recruiting Twitter…
"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath
anyone here hear gainesville?
I’ll check the TN map in a 2nd. Someone needs to go out there and sabotage the visit. Just throw on some UF gear for an hour, find Green and give him a hard time.
Speak softly, and carry a big Spear
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 13, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
near*, not hear
Speak softly, and carry a big Spear
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 13, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
Mike Harris
I scanned the posts but didn’t see any info on him… I also noticed that Smiley and McCloud are in school, all EEd up and such. (Or whatever term you’d use for JuCo guys.) But Harris, apparently, is not. Whats the word on that?
I bleed Garnet and piss Gold.
Harris never planned on being an EE.
Going to JUCO doesn’t necessarily mean you can get into college in December. Everyone expects Harris here in the summer.
Will we still get some kind of letter in February?
Something tangable?
I bleed Garnet and piss Gold.
Anyone else who doesn't have a sub to warchant ever go the premium recruiting board...
and see how many stars a thread gets?
5 stars must be good news and 1 star must be bad news.
Maybe it’s just me.
Speak softly, and carry a big Spear
Lemonier in-home
Met Stoops but not Eliot. Wish our new DE coach was able to go, wonder what he was busy with.
Speak softly, and carry a big Spear
Green & Jones
These two remind me of the situation of T J Bryant. We were all sure that TJ would sign with FSU & he fooled us all and went to USC. So I am not sure when it comes to these two guys.
Go Noles!!
Damn... FSUn's even worried about Jones
I think we all are to an extent, some just don’t care to admit it.
He may go to USC if his dad believes Kiffin's lie about their impending probation
Ken Norton is gone so Lane can’t brag about SC’s recent run of sending linebackers to the league
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 13, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
Saw on here I think that they're looking to hire Dat Nguyen.
I thought that was the comedian at first before realizing that’s Dat Phan.
That may be done I believe
Either way he doesn’t have Norton’s resume. I’m just stockpiling ammo against Lane. I am scared about losing him though. Albeit, not to punka** Miami
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 13, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
My "replies" aren't working
Everything is getting pushed to the bottom. It’s making me look like a moron. Am I missing something?
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 13, 2010 11:30 PM EST reply actions
Will Tye
If you wanna see what kind of athlete he is…watch that video at about 5:40 in. Sure hands, breaks the tackle, almost outruns the db, gets teh ball poked out and still hauls back into his body as he’s falling down being tackled. He is a good oen from what I see.
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