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FSU vs. UF Baseball Tickets - For those local to Tampa
The Florida State Seminoles Baseball team takes on the Florida Gators Tuesday March 2nd at Steinbrenner Field here in Tampa! Tickets GO ON SALE TOMORROW, Friday January 15th at 10am at the Steinbrenner Field Box Office or at www.ticketmaster.com. Due to the Yankees season ticket holders getting first access to tickets, no group/block seating was made available. The link below will take you to Ticketmaster, which has a listing of events for Steinbrenner Field. The FSU vs. UF event should be the first listing. Tickets will go VERY FAST, and they are expected to sell out.
http://www.ticketmaster.com/search?tm_link=tm_header_search&q=george+m+steinbrenner+field&search.x=61&search.y=11
USF v UM is at 4 PM and FSU v UF is scheduled to start at 7 PM
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
Maybe
I am not paying 30 bucks plus Ticketmaster fees though. StubHub had them as cheap as 12 bucks so if I can do that then yes.
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
Just bought tickets to the FSU-Phillies game the next night
Cheaper and better environment
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
Phillies website
We bought berm tickets and are just going to hang out by the bar in left field. Wednesday is ladies night $1 drinks.
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
did i read that right? phillies v noles?
do they usually have sping pro-college matchups? sounds pretty cool to me
"Don't flinch, let's kill a fly with an Axe."
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thats a cool idea
as a kid i always wanted to see a top rated college football team go against a NFL team, just for kicks
"Don't flinch, let's kill a fly with an Axe."
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Even if you weren't,
Look at our once thought as competition. It was a FSU, USF, Tennessee, Miami battle. USF and Tennessee don’t have coaches, and who knows what Miami is trying to accomplish this recruiting class. I can’t see Mitchell going anywhere else.
SCALP 'EM SEMINOLES!
UM
Isn’t the rumor that they are replacing their RC? I heard they were about to shake up their staff.
by osceolafan850 on Jan 14, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
I can never remember...
About what weekend in April will the G&G game be?
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
"But How will I know limits from lies, if I never try."
Thanks
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
"But How will I know limits from lies, if I never try."
by geoffissiffoeg on Jan 14, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
How about Gilbert Arenas?
I couldn’t believe this was happening in the NBA. Not surprised, but… wow. And Gilbert Arenas? Not Ron Artest?
SCALP 'EM SEMINOLES!
"making SI"?
Elaborate? Always nice to have another celebrity around.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 15, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
This is just a general message to a few TN posters.
What’s up with all the “I must defend my honor and my argument to the death!” sentiment? Forget about pumping up your TN “street cred” by “winning” arguments. Because you just took 12 replies and you decided to take your argument to one technicality of your new-found nemesis’ response you just made yourself an annoying poster. If your little spat with someone isn’t resolved in a couple messages, is suddenly way off-topic, and it now revolves around you then tie it up and move on.
i used to be a soccer basher until I actually paid more attention to it.
Its like baseball being that everything builds up to those 3-4 great chances a match. I for one thought it was a pansies game, but that’s not the case.
Would have put this in the "Offtopic Whatever" thread but it was deleted...
Listened to the Skip Holtz introductory press conference, and when it got to the part where he was going to start thanking everyone who helped him get to this point, he busted out this line:
“If you ever see a turtle on top of a fencepost, it didn’t get there alone.”
Discuss…
Not really, just a surprised turtle pic previously posted when we played the Maryland Terps.
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Coley's Tweet
On the feed it says he tweeted @ someone, and says something to the effect of “on OUR way up BB.” I know the BB part is there… Jab at Coach Bowden? Or no?
I bleed Garnet and piss Gold.
The guy's name was benjibrown1
That leads me to believe that BB = BenjiBrown1
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
"But How will I know limits from lies, if I never try."
by geoffissiffoeg on Jan 15, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
What happened against USF, regarding our O-Line?
I’m sure it was discussed plenty when it happened… Why was USF’s DLine able to school our usually stout OLine? Was it just how they matched up? If so, are there teams on our schedule in the future who present similar matchup problems?
USF had 2 stud DEs
And didn’t Sanders not play?
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
right, Sanderson played
The whole team played poorly agaisnt USF. The defense was atrocious considering they had a frosh QB and were at home. Wideouts fumbled. Backs missed holes. Lots of holes. Ponder didn’t play well. I think it was mostly motivation.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
Not motivated? Hard to believe with the pregame speeches Bobby gave this year
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
If I remember correctly this was the game Bobby was hamming it up with his buddies from Bama and forgot about the pre-game motivational speech,
causing “the clown” to argue with Jimbo about who would give the pep talk. Neither did and the players went out onto the field dazed and confused.
Of course this is only a “alleged rumor.”
There is no doubt in my mind that if Bobby had come down and given the pre-game speech the players would have been motivated and fired up and we would have crushed USF, turning the season around, and possibly been undefeated heading into the Swamp.
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While still unacceptable, that would be easier to swallow. However,
not doubting you heard that revised rumor, but this was the game that the ’99 team was honored, so I think the players were on the field before the game. Therefore, I choose to believe the original rumor because it always gets the Bowdenistas panties in a big time wad, and that is so much fun to do.
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No offense
but I think this theory places way too much emphasis on the importance of a pre game speech. I could see maybe coming out slow for the first series or perhaps.
I dont have any ideas really on what happened so i guess this is a bad post.
Anyone know where I can see the game replay?
Well, gosh, it's a weight off of everybody. I think everybody that is an FSU fan or a coach or a player, this takes a weight off the shoulder. But what does that mean? Seven more days of peace?
by stevegrizzle on Jan 24, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
oops i didnt read the whole post
and whiffed on the sarcasm
Well, gosh, it's a weight off of everybody. I think everybody that is an FSU fan or a coach or a player, this takes a weight off the shoulder. But what does that mean? Seven more days of peace?
by stevegrizzle on Jan 24, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
Hahah, it was an obvious one.
You're so wise. You're like a miniature Buddha, covered in hair.
Where were you the other day?
I was pointing out that I thought FSU was pushed around all day by USF’s D line (and others this year) – and not many seemed to agree. Jimbo nailed it in his interview today -- need to get some grown men in the trenches!
he actually was talking about defensive linemen
our offensive line lead us to the best rushing attack in the country and was also elite in pass protection.
Best in the country - by what measure?
Qnole was posting about our OL and matchup problems. I agree with you on pass pro – it was very good this year.
Played against the #5, #9, #12, #14, #18, #21, #35, and #37 Rushing S&P+ defenses.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ncaaoff2009
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Interesting
Great metric, but a hard pill to swallow for me.
So by the same stat, UF's rushing offense was right behind ours?
Is this due to the face that they ran up significant rushing yardage against weaker defenses, while FSU’s numbers weren’t as good, but the competition was significantly better?
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 16, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
In theory, yes
But I think this is an instance where the stats skew reality a bit. I don’t think any objective fan would say we have best rushing offense in the nation. It’s a great formula they have, but do most people really think that if we needed to run it we could do it more successfully/consistently than, say, Bama or GT? We are not in the same conversation as Bama in my opinion.
Right, and I while I understand the logic and statistics backing it up.
I don’t think any rational FSU would contend that given the same competition we’d put up better rushing numbers than teams like GT, Bama, or UF.
I will, however, brag about this and use it to my advantage when making a point whenever possible. :)
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 16, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Bama was #2 in that and I think GTech is up there as well
People don’t realize the quality of rush defenses we faced in my opinion. Bama struggled to run at times this year as well. LSU and Tennessee come to mind.
FSU/Mr. Spetman
FSU: Agree, I underrate quality of opponent, but we’ll probably continue to disagree on us being elite (regarding 2009). Certainly a good running team, but I look forward to next year when we actually move it consistently against our tougher opponents.
Mr. Spet: I will bring up this stat all the time, with great pleasure! Just try to keep it real within the family.
The link you posted has Bama as 13 and GT as 4.
I would think that by Bama playing UF, Texas, Tenn, LSU, and VT, that they faced better opponents than we did (UF, Clemson, UNC, USF, aaaaaaand Miami?)
It’s possible that I am reading the chart wrong, but I’m looking under ranking where there is a 1 in the column by FSU.
No doubt that if UF and FSU did not play that our numbers would be juxtaposed.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 18, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
Question for FSUn
Think you’ll ever make an appearance on the Jeff Cameron show?
Possibly.
They are sponsored by WC, so I’m not sure if WC would pitch a fit.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
I heard a rumor that Corey Liuget will transfer to FSU if Zook leaves
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I'm not sure he comes here
he’d have 2 years of eligibility left (class of 2008) after his RS year for transferring. That would put him in the same class as McDaniel and McCloud.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
any word on his grades?
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 16, 2010 1:43 AM EST up reply actions
yep, and apparently Werner is LOVING his visit too
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 16, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Coley's tweet
From last night Makes sense then…
“I’m WALKING into your state and claiming it SEMINOLE TERRITORY… It’s our WORLD – this is our TIME – We Are The Florida State University!”
anyone here post on the mainboard?
There is an FSU fan who goes by TN over there.
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is there any realistic chance that we could have 3 Nigels all playing in a live game at one time?
bradham, carr, terrell (assuming he commits). considering they’re all linebackers, that would be really strange.
Can Christian Jones Resist the Darkside?
With all these visitors to the Deathstar (Gville) this weekend will CJ be able to resist the dark side of the force and the Emporer who says "Christian, I will give you powers you never dreamed of!!
Mack Brown
Christian Green
Chaz Green
Christian Jones (unofficial)
Dominique Easley
Lynden Trail
Gideon Ajagbe
Quinton Dunbar
Jeremy Deering
Darrin Kitchens
Very good question
You know they will bring out all the stops. Hopefully Obi-Wan J-Coley can save them?
by Doak on Jan 16, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow...what a nerdy, yet entertaining comment on both your parts. Well done (I think)
That’s quite a group of kids visiting at once. Are we assuming that Drayton got permission from Urban to use his “faith” speech on Mack Brown? There were rumblings that he may have been looking to get out, but I haven’t heard much about him lately.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 16, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Hey,
There’s nothing wrong w/ 30+ yr olds making Star Wars, Family Guy and South Park references. Can anybody think of anyothers ? Robot chicken?
Does a Stoop trump a stop?
Now that we have one…
by TEMPORARY LIKE ACHILLES on Jan 17, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Sit or stand at Doak?
I have only attended FSU games in Doak so I have nothing else to compare to. I am shocked at the amount of FSU faithful that get so upset at people who want to stand during the games. What gives? I am a stander (only when necessary of course) but have been told to sit numerous times even during a big defense stand. Mind you these people could have stood too but seem rather lazy. How did this mentality start at FSU or am I missing something in game day etiquette here?
Depends on section
Not sure if it’s still the same, but East Endzone and North student section were definitely ‘standing’. On parents weekend I’ve sat on the West zone and into the South side – which is definitely more docile. This was a few years back (Weinke-Rix Era). The last few trips I’ve made to Tally I’ve sat in the U Club – which I’m a big fan of. Kind of pricey if you have to pay yourself, but definitely worth trying. In any event, you shouldn’t feel bad about standing during a big play, regardless of where you are!
It's a sign of the times...
When I was a kid, my dad and I would go, and I don’t remember sitting much (especially when Miami or UF was the opponent). It seems that there would be lotsa life for the first half, but back in the days, it died down after halftime, mostly due to a 31-6 FSU lead.
Now, I think the mediocrity of the program has touched the fans, that they have come to expect poop play at times, and it’s not worthy to stand for. Hell, I was downright disappointed at my section at the Gator bowl. BB’s last game, playing in a new years day bowl against a very good team, and they could care less.
JImbo could stand to do some PR in this department. Maybe paint himself Garnet and Gold and show up at the FSU/Duke game later this year. Grab the mic at halftime, and let the fans/students know what they need to do.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 16, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
People who come to sit at any football game should give their tickets to somebody else...
unless they’re physically disabled. Sitting is for baseball games.
Hell yes.
When I lived in Hogtown, I went to pretty much every home game that didn’t conflict with FSU (I saw the first ever jump pass in person from about 30 yards away. I almost died laughing while the UF fans went nuts…I’ll say to this day. I’d rather root for a 7-6 FSU team than an undefeated jump pass…terrible)…I digress.
Bottom line, that entire stadium never sits. We sat once, in the Wyoming game….in August…when UF was up 42-7
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 18, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
Standers
At the Gator Bowl I had my kids and these losers stood the whole game where my kids couldn’t see anything even when they stood up too. Even when we courteously asked them to sit down they refused.Most of you probably haven’t ventured into parenting yet but when you do you’ll understand how frustrating it is to plan a special event and get your kids excited only to have them not be able to see. Whay is the point of standing anyway except to yell at opposing offenses close to you on key plays?
I've got kids, and I just assume I'm going to have to hold them the whole time.
I don’t mind though. I stand pretty much the whole time. Come to think of it I even stand most of the time when I watch FSU games on T.V.
by Darkhorse99 on Jan 17, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Raises a good question
Who was best Nole of the 2000’s? Besides Weinke…
Barron or E Brown
Cro Thorpe? Dockett? Bunkley?
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 16, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
I like Antonio Cromartie.
I think he is the most talented of the decade, beating out the likes of Leon Washington, Anquan Boldin, Darnell Dockett, Ernie Sims, Alex Barron…I could go on. I think there was still some talent this decade.
by pasadenanole22 on Jan 16, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
On the field he never even started for us though
I know he was all conference but his contributions to the team are nowhere near what some of the other guys did.
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 16, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
Greg Jones
If he could have just stayed healthy.
by NoleBetterTeam on Jan 16, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Randy Shannon Dolphins DC?
On the coaching changes thread on Tharinger.com, someone quotes Randy Shannon’s name being mentioned about the Miami Dolphins DC opening and that he is interested.
noooooooo
Stay at Miami, Randy!
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 16, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
LSUFreek does great stuff.
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
by onebarrelrum on Jan 18, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
nooo!
i want him to stay at the U
run them into ground, set them back ten yrs!
as a dolphan, he would be an interesting hire as DC of fins
he might have some success as nfl cordinator
Sorry
But my phone was going haywire and I’m used to important stuff when I check TN’s tweets. It did get way better by half time :)
crap reply didnt work.
Also that’s the first time Ive seen I dynasty thread wasn’t familiar with them.
class of 99
Hopefully the man gets a job at a smaller school and works his way up.
Would not mind at all if he came back to FSU at some point if he proves himself elsewhere. Regardless, I’d like to see him coach somewhere.
Was RaysnNoles doing a story on CFB budgets?
Here’s a nice link from USA Today showing athletic budgets.
UF
Expenses: $98,775,583.00
Revenue: $106,607,895.00
FSU
Expenses: $65,583,105.00
Revenue: $73,458,494.00
is there a figure for just football related expenses?
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 19, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
Not on that site that I'm aware of.
I have seen a website with I think overall and football, basketball budgets per school, but can’t remember where I saw it. I will try to find it. I think it’s safe to assume a significant correlation between most schools overall budgets and football budgets. Obviously schools like Ohio State and Stanford (not included because it’s a private school), among others, have 30+ varsity sports and that must be taken into consideration.
This isnt worthy of its own post
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/ncaa/01/19/babick.ap/index.html
Now, it isnt saying that all of UF is filled with alleged pedophiles, but its not saying it isnt either.
There is already a thread about that in the Offtopic Discussion FanPost
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
Brings back memories.
I lived in Salley Hall and frequently had a hot dog by Strozier on my way to class.
And one at the stadium
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
"But How will I know limits from lies, if I never try."
by geoffissiffoeg on Jan 21, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Rix used to frequent the one near Westcott.
Actually, I never actually saw him eating there, just hanging out and chatting to the guy who ran it.
Glad to hear they’re still there and multiplying. BUT Strozier Stand > All other Stands
And I’m willing to fight about it.
saw castillo there all the time
always in a leg cast
Well, gosh, it's a weight off of everybody. I think everybody that is an FSU fan or a coach or a player, this takes a weight off the shoulder. But what does that mean? Seven more days of peace?
by stevegrizzle on Jan 24, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
This is the highest rating I have seen for FSU by a pundit yet.
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
FSU is the only ACC Atlantic team on that list. What, no Clemson?
but 4 teams from the Coastal.
Cock fans are giving Clemson hell about that one
I don’t expect much from Clemson. One of their sites was crowing about Dabo changing history by their winning the division this year. Winning the Atlantic last year was like winning a beauty contest at Notre Dame. Dabo doesn’t strike me as a good coach, their recruiting looks like it will trend down without Bowden, and the linchpin of their entire offense is gone.
by osceolafan850 on Jan 22, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Coley is killing me on Twitter
CoachColey
mission accomplished – I thought I told U – FEAR THE SPEAR!!!! about 1 hour ago from mobile web
Oh my God. I need to know what this means RIGHT NOW.
"He went into this whole spiel about Shaolin monks or something like that, how we need to be like Shaolin monks and how they don't talk for 15 years and stuff." - Caz Piurowski about Coach Coley
Awesome! I really don't care what it means because it's good news.
We’ll find out NSD at the latest.
Most likely means
Lemonier and Calvin Smith, maybe Chandler
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
or maybe.....
We’ve made a significant move and landed a silent from Ego or flipped Dorsey. Lot’s of Miami references out of Coley the past few days…..maybe he’s managed to pull Ego, Dorsey, and Lemonier!! We’ll just have to wait and see.
I wouldn't really be too excited if it was Ego or Dorsey.
Lemonier though…I’ve been waiting for that news a while.
Agree about...
Dorsey. However, it would be nice to snake one from the Gators.
What’s your stance on Ego? Because I would be extremely excited to land him, and think he’d be a great pull and addition to this class. He addresses a position of immediate need on our defensive front at SDE.
Now, I don’t think he is an immediate contributor, but I think Ego is more game ready at the NCAA level than Lemonier. Given the depth situation upfront, especially at SDE, he could prove to be a more valuable get than Lemonier in the short term.
So although I’m in the upside boat with Lemonier, I’m also siding with Ego and his ability to make a contribution if needed in the short term.
chandler isnt going to fsu
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 23, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
You can't make this kind of stuff up
96 hours on the mean streets of gunsville.
http://www.mugshotsgainesville.com/
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
California Girls
I thought I would start this thread as I was taking up space on the Dorsey thread.
Contrary to the opinion of some on the TN, Los Angeles does have beautiful women. The coeds at USC are gorgeous, but FSU can give them a run for their money.
LA is a “young person’s” town, because of the Entertainment industry, and there is alot of youth here.
What LA is lacking is not beauty, but brains. There are many idiots in this city. It drives me crazy. But, I believe it was Twain who said,
“Let us be thankful for the fools; but for them the rest of us could not succeed.”
"CHANGE - its punching U in the mouth!!!" - Coach Coley Tweet
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