Tampa (FL) Hillsborough CB Terrence Mitchell commits to Florida State
by FSUSOM on Jan 15, 2010 12:18 AM EST
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As first reported by TBO.com at http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/jan/14/mitchell-commits-fsu/sports-prepsports/ :
"When I took my visit there last weekend, it just felt like home, a place I could see myself being the next four or five years," said the 5-foot-10, 165-pound Terrence Mitchell. "I got along with all the players, all the coaches and I love the school. It just feels right."
"T-Rex" had offers from FSU, UF, Miami, Alabama (key for DBs), Ohio State, UNC, UGA, and Tennessee. He was recruited by Jimbo Fisher and Lawrence Dawsey. Dawsey has done a nice job to re-establish FSU in the bay area, especially because the 'Noles had no Tampa presence in the middle part of the decade.
VITALS:
Hometown: Tampa, FL (Hillsborough HS)
Height: 5'9" (the 5'10" in the Tampa Tribune article is generous)
Weight: 160 lbs.
40-yd: 4.4- (Legit, many kids claim a 4.3 and run a 4.55. Terrence is one of the fastest players in the fastest state in the country)
Other speed: 10.59 100-Meter (Reggie Bush ran a 10.60 as a Jr in San Diego)
Vertical: 35''
ESPN Rating: 80 (4*), #142 National
Rivals.com Rating: 4*, #5 CB, #83 R100
Grades: Fully Qualified
Inside, an evaluation, recruitment story, and lots of film! Click "continue reading"
Recruitment:
Terrence's recruitment was sort of an enigma in a way. From the very beginning he was always a heavy Florida State lean because he had grown up a fan of the Seminoles. However, many said that it was all he knew and would look around seriously at other schools. Many said that he was looking seriously at both UGA and his hometown team USF, however in the end he chose to become a Seminole. Most believe that he actually committed to the coaches last weekend and wanted to make sure the decision sat well once he returned home.
Evaluation:
Terrence is on the slight side right now, he has a very muscular toned build similar to what you would see on a sprinter. He plays extremely fast on the field, has good "football speed." He has lacked some experience in man to man covering so when he comes in, his pass coverage will need refining and his run support may be ahead of what he can do in pass coverage. However he displays very good ball skills once the ball is in the air both as a receiver and a CB. He is an extremely fluid athlete through his hips and knees opening well and staying up on WR after that. His lack of pure CB play shows that his backpedal needs work as it gets choppy and long. His short area burst is just phenomenal, blue chip like which is an area where CBs need to excel for recovery; and as his body continues to progress he has a good chance to be a two year starter at Florida State. Terrence is a great example of why coaches love to work in Florida. Other states just do not produce talents like Terrence on a consistent basis.
Some video evidence:
Terrance "T-Rex" Mitchell #3 (via TerrierSupport)
Comparison: Potentially, a young Alphonso Smith. Same size, both very quick. The old Wake Forest CB, Smith was a pain to FSU fans and quarterbacks for years.
CB Alphonso Smith Highlights Wake Forest 2008 (via DraftParty)
Who will join T-REX in the secondary class?
CB Lamarcus Joyner
CB Terrence Brooks
CB Mike Harris
S Chad Abrams
DB Greg Dent
The TomahawkNation.com recruiting map has been updated to reflect the commitment.
Make sure to check the TomahawkNation.com Recruiting Board to stay current with all the 'Nole's current targets!
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ah dang, thought I beat you
Anyways, big get for us at corner.
Deering is the only other guy in the secondary I hope we take unless Cooper pulls a surprise and picks us.
Don’t want Dorsey.
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
What position do you see him at?
S?
I jumped the gun in the other thread and said DB for sure but looking at his offensive highlights again makes me wonder.
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
Think he is a candidate to return kicks/punts?
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
I know this may sound weird, but
Can someone explain why Illinois was in the mix? He like the Zookster that much?
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 15, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe Deering wasn't getting much love for the Florida schools?
I recall Jimbo making some trips and stopped by to visit Deering. That was probably a couple months ago, but still recent.
by CSI Nole on Jan 15, 2010 12:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
yeah, we think it happened when Mitchell committed last weekend
both just wanted to sit on it to make sure it was the right call.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
That Deering is all FSU
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
I hope you guys are right.
Still gotta take a UF visit though, right?
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 15, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
That's what I believe
but I’m not running an article until the kid wants to do it, ya know? Let the kid come out.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
It says on rivals that his UF visit is tomorrow (actually today 1/15)
This accurate info?
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 15, 2010 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
pretty sure he is going there
I would always tell my kids to take all 5 visits. FSU does not tell kids not to take visits like some schools…
Many of these kids enjoy a nice steak for the first time in their lives on these visits and visits are fun. I wouldn’t read too much into it IMO.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
Normally I wouldn't, but there's somethin a brewin down in Gainesville.
I just don’t count it before it’s hatched. However, if/when we do reel him him, I’ll jump for joy. Kid is off the charts.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 15, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions
UF may not have room for Deering
From what I’ve read, they may have 3 or 4 spots left in this class and I don’t think he’s high on their list unless they miss out on their remaining targets.
by CSI Nole on Jan 15, 2010 1:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Haven't heard who they've prioritized, but that's what I was thinking too
they’d rather steal the Christians at least
I said it on another article, if they turned away Jeffcoat they are not taking Deering
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
Something's brewing in Gville?
Yeah, black magic – a deal with the Devil. Maybe even the Antichrist (“Have faith, kids… I wouldn’t lie to you. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain…”).
I can’t believe just how many people are buying Urbie’s miraculous turn around, particularly since some untruths (e.g., about the 911 call) have already been exposed. It’s not just my own bias, is it? This does seem very odd to other people, right?
With Meyer’s whole “faith” one liner, I just picture him wearing this sweater when he meets with players.
Invictus, I think it's a combo of our own "bias" and the perceived reality of the situation
IMO he’ll be back. Whatever it was that caused him to panic has now been resolved, and in his mind is put behind him.
I guess one thing that surprises me is the attempts to rationalize the situation by Gator Fan. I don’t understand why it’s so hard not just to be pissed off at how it was handled, admit there’s something shady going on, and see how it plays out.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 15, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Like that rumor going around...
about the whole Charlie Strong tabbed as Meyer’s successor, but then Stoops inquired and Charlie took the UL job, so Urban was FORCED to reconsider his stance, or else lose all contact with his beloved program and kids.
Such a martyr, that Urban, willing to sacrifice his own health and family for the sake of Gator Nation.
Gator fans think that Shannahan wanted the job.
You know, the same guy that was rumored to be the next head coach in Washington for over a month now.
This would be exactly my take on it.
A lot of these kids come from dirt-poor backgrounds. Let’em go visit places and get some nice treatment.
by Drew J Jones on Jan 15, 2010 8:14 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed, though I want Deering more than Cooper
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
I worded that poorly
I want Deering more than Cooper too, what I meant to say was that Deering and Cooper are the only other DB I want in this class.
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
Come on down!!!
Oh yes its Great to be a FLorida State Seminole!! not to mention we needed this bad from this past wkd man ol man. I hope we get Deering to or Cooper. Sure would like to get Barnes back.
by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 15, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
I expected the good news at around lunch
Guess T-Rex couldn’t wait and went public when the clock hit 12! Excellent pickup! This DB class will be one of the best in 2010 and for years to come.
Welcome to tomahawknation!
by CSI Nole on Jan 15, 2010 12:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
or the Tampa-Trib couldn't wait.
But once it’s out there, it’s out there.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
True
Guess I was expecting some type of announcement at his HS or something.
by CSI Nole on Jan 15, 2010 12:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The article from TBO
says we have also have commits from Lamarcus Joyner, Mike Harris, and Matt Elam.
Way to go, TBO.
At least they didn't say Corey Miller and Ed Christian
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah...he's probably thinking
“Damn, I wish I woulda done this sooner”
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 15, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
I've already had to accept the fact that there is a Stoops on our football staff now.
Could you please not also say “sooner”?
by MattDNole on Jan 15, 2010 7:24 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Haha.
Nicely done.
"He went into this whole spiel about Shaolin monks or something like that, how we need to be like Shaolin monks and how they don't talk for 15 years and stuff." - Caz Piurowski about Coach Coley
My apologies, Matthew. Didn't mean to make you lose your breakfast.
We had a discussion about PCola last night in your absence. Evidently there’s a good number of us who have nothing better to do than goof off on TN day in and day out up here in Lower Alabama.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 15, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Nope
all are solid
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
Great news and I'm sure it was even more special for T-rex with his birthday just passing
Welcome aboard to what has become an outstanding DB class.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2010 12:37 AM EST reply actions
Players left on the board
Sorry if I missed anyone
QB – none
RB – Mack Brown
RB – Neal
WR – McCartney
WR – Green
TE – Tye
OL – Schwab
OL – Fulton
DL – Lemonier
DL – C Smith
DL – Chandler
DL – Werner
DL – Brooks
DL – D Jones
LB – Jones
LB – Akuna
LB – Kitchens
DB – Dorsey
DB – Cooper
Ath – Deering
Any corrections to this? Names to drop? Add? I think Kirksey and Young are off the board now.
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I'd take Sticks and Rajion Neal off
and replace Fulton with Ashton Duhe at OL.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
And even though I think he stays in state, I'd replace Sticks with Sanders
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
Ace Sanders?
I remember being excited about him preseason and it seemed like we cooled / found other options.
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
Vincent
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2010 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
LOL
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
ah, forgot about him
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
Does he have a committable offer?
Just noticed he is 120 on the rivals 150 and is listed as blue chip for 4 of their 5 major categories.
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
Did you happen to read the story on rivals about new guys on the FSU board?
It was pretty informative but the part on the OL Patrick was funny to read.
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
No I don't have access
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
And just a quick word on that
We don’t want to be a site that poaches other site’s content that must be paid for. This site is predicated on active involvement of FSU sports fans who thrive on knowledge and open communication. As such, we are superior to information sources that are interested in “controlling” content and charging for it. Plus, you guys have so many contacts that rarely do we get left in the dark on important happenings.
This is the model for a sports community, similar to the open-source community in computer programming and science. “Info” will always surface, and there are tons of good media outlets for it, including us. But where else are you going to get in-depth comments and insight from everyone from the site proprietors all the way down to brand new posters?
Our mantra is quality and analysis, and this site remains unrivaled.
by ricobert1 on Jan 15, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
correction
add:
DL – Deas
WR – V Sanders
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
I'm sure there are some OL that we don't know about on our coaches' board as well
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
for sure
I shoulda put “Trickett guys” on there
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 1:21 AM EST up reply actions
You need to add
Tennessee 4 star DL commit JC Copeland to the list. It is being reported that he has been contacted by FSU and is considering switching in light of the Kiffin’s departure.
OldNole60 was raving about him yesterday
Very good player. Finally got around to watching the film. Kid has a relentless motor. Wonder what his grades/ attitude are like.
heard
haven’t read the TBO article yet. I don;t run the recruiting stuff so I’m typically not involved in them other than what people tell me. In this case it was “hey mitchell is a 10.59 100-meter kid, add that”
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
that's good then. His short burst is great
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions
From the TBO article.
Last year, he was the Class 3A state finals runner-up in both the long and triple jumps, as well as fifth in the 300-meter intermediate hurdles. He’s also one of the area’s top sprinters in the 100-meter dash with a personal best of 10.59 seconds.
I feel like I should read this article.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
Nothing really noteworthy other than that.
Says the Leavitt situation affected his decision some but says FSU was the place for him anyways. Something like that.
How did that not get a TWSS...
We’re slipping, guys.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 15, 2010 2:01 AM EST up reply actions
Is the TWSS ban back on? If so, I missed that.
I dunno…I just saw “his short burst is great” and couldn’t help myself.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 15, 2010 2:03 AM EST up reply actions
one-liners are supposed to be canned
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 2:04 AM EST up reply actions
no, we changed it.
If your one-liners are bad, they are deleted w/o notice. And if that means other good posts in the same string get deleted, it’s the one-liner’s fault So don’t post bad ones.
Ahhhh...Ok, now that makes more sense. So basically you've got a incentive.
Not to say something stupid. Wow.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 15, 2010 2:08 AM EST up reply actions
are +1s and rec'd bad?
Get alot of those. Do people really need the validation of letting another poster know that they’re the one that rec’d the post? There’s a button for that.
Reggie Bush was a 10.60 as a Jr in high school. I believe
Just for comparative purposes
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 15, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
#1 and #5 cb's in the nation
per rivals…not bad
Not that it means too much,
IIRC, I think we had something similar in Tony Carter, Trevor Ford, and JR Bryant in one class back there. All were top-10 CBs on rivals, and I think 2 of them were top-5.
Obviously, only 1 out of 3 turned out to be serviceable. We will see how our coaching upgrades impact our ROI with these kids.
yes, 2004
And we just missed n another top guy who went to OU.
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
yep the JUCO (not going to try to spell it)
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
was he juco?
I think his name was marcus walker
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry, I was talking about Chijioke Onyenegecha
but you are correct in that we were after Marcus Walker as well. I was glad he went to OU as I never wanted him. He ended up being more productive than Bryant and Ford for sure and about equal to Carter, but I always thought he didn’t have it.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
In your opinion, who are you referring to that turned out to be serviceable?
I ask out of curiousity.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 15, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Carter was
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that's what I guessed...I don't remember Bryant being awful
When it comes to defensive backs, the less I remember about them, the better I assumed they were.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 15, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Bryant was pretty bad
Didn’t even play much as a senior.
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, and was signed by the Packers
went undrafted and signed a week or so after with GB. I think he even played in a few games near the end of the season.
Ford transferred out, and I don't think Bryant was ever consistently in the starting rotation.
So that leaves T. Carter. Maybe this is pre-emptively defensive, but I know he had his shortcomings (pun intended), but he started for 3.5 years and is currently on an NFL roster (Broncs). He undoubtedly “earned” his scholarship, though probably did not live up to top 10 billing.
Can we get on with the 2010 season?????
After signing day, of course. LOL Can’t wait to see how the D plays together compared to what we just went through.
Stay classy, Tallahassee!
I can't wait to see Luc in spring drills
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2010 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
Too bad Mangum is gone
Call be a sadist but it would have been nice to see Luc and Mangum square off just once in a hitting drill.
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
For the record I didn't mean for it to sound like I wanted to see anyone hurt
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
If we can get...
Hunter and Williams to go with Brutus and Smith, we’re pretty damn set for some time.
Just need some pass rushers to help our DBs out
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
2011 is disgustingly deep at DE in FL
so we should be able to get a few good ones next year and hopefully Lemonier to help close out this year’s class.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
Anyone have some names to follow?
I know there is a guy at First Coast and another one in Dade
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions
Derrick Mitchell is the First Coast kid, he has a huge ceiling
Ray Drew is going to be one hell of a player as well, even though he isn’t in FL (may as well be).
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2010 1:31 AM EST up reply actions
Drew is my #2 target for next year behind Lemay
Wish he wasn’t as high on Bama as he is.
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions
Cristian Lemay and WR/DB Hakeem Flowers (SC)
are my top 2 targets not in FL or GA for 2011. I’d be okay if those were the only 2 we signed from outside FL or GA for 2011 (as of this writing).
I think Flowers will be a WR, but I’d love to see him at CB, but seeing how our class is shaping up thus far, I think he’d be needed more at WR than CB if we are fortunate enough to sign him.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
He wants to play WR and is talented enough to demand his position.
365 days, until I change my ways.
Derrick's Dad played basketball for FSU
and he will have 3, 4 , or 5 first coast teammates on the Noles in 2011
Pulling these names off of ThaRinger's 2011 FL Watch list (updated Dec. 19th, 2009)
Here is a link to the entire ThaRinger’s 2011 FL Watch List
Just going to post all the DEs
6. Curt Maggitt
6’3", 210 / DE / Dwyer
Favorite(s): Florida, Miami
Early Projected Ranking: 6.0/
8. Miles Pace (I think this is who you were referring to)
6’1", 235 / LB,DL / Miami Central
Favorite(s): Florida State, Miami, USF
Early Projected Ranking: 5.9/
28. Brandon Fulse
6’5", 250 / DE / Fort Meade
Favorite(s): Florida, Georgia, Florida State
Early Projected Ranking: 5.8/
33. Bryant Dubose
6’4", 245 / DE / Northeast
Favorite(s): Georgia, West Virginia, Rutgers
Early Projected Ranking: 5.8/
36. Anthony Chickillo
6’3", 225 / DE / Alonso
Favorite(s): Miami
Early Projected Ranking: 5.8/
40. Derrick Mitchell
6’5", 265 / DL / First Coast
Favorite(s): Florida State
Early Projected Ranking: 5.8/
46. Deon Lee (D. Craig target)
6’4", 230 / DE / Walton
Favorite(s): Miami, Florida State, UCF
Early Projected Ranking: 5.8/
50. Ryan Shazier (Seen his name mentioned a lot already with us)
6’3", 200 / DE / Plantation
Favorite(s): Florida State, LSU, UCLA, Miami, Florida
Early Projected Ranking: 5.8/
59. Aaron Lynch
6’5", 235 / DE / Island Coast
Favorite(s): Florida State
Early Projected Ranking: 5.7/
61. Chris Jones
6’5", 260 / DL / Raines
Favorite(s): LSU, Georgia, Miami, Florida, Alabama
Early Projected Ranking: 5.7/
62. Ryan Bryson
6’4", 260 / DE / Pedro Menendez
Favorite(s): South Carolina
Early Projected Ranking: 5.7/
63. Anthony Rabassa
6’3", 220 / DE / Columbus
Favorite(s): Miami, Rutgers
Early Projected Ranking: 5.7/
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
Yep, those are definitely the top 2 targets.
I was speculating about Pace re: td’s Q about the Dade kid.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
Pace is a true MLB from Central who has a serious amount of talent.
365 days, until I change my ways.
This is totally "There Will Be Blood"
Spoiler Alert* Daniel is baptized solely so he can use the Bandy family’s tract of land for his oil pipeline to the coast.
Ready for some hellfire and brimstone preaching?
I just had the funniest mental image
of Coley stealing a recruit from Urbie and posting up on Twitter:
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!
"He went into this whole spiel about Shaolin monks or something like that, how we need to be like Shaolin monks and how they don't talk for 15 years and stuff." - Caz Piurowski about Coach Coley
by GregJones on Jan 15, 2010 1:54 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Hahaha
Just for that im going to wear my shirt that says that today.
thanks
I meant Maggitt but I see we are not listed as an early leader.
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 1:37 AM EST up reply actions
same school as Elam
I’d say we’d be a very longshot.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
yea, I think what got me thinking about him was
When Elam committed someone said something about it helping with Maggitt.
Now that he’s gone, obviously not so much.
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 1:40 AM EST up reply actions
That was me hoping
but let’s just forget that chapter now. I’ll play editor and just pretend that chapter was never written in the first place.
:)
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
Brandon Fulse...
Goes to my old high school, the kid is one heck of an athlete. His Coach is former Gator Jemalle Cornelius, but Jemalle isnt the type of coach who would steer Brandon away from us and to the Gators…
I am really intrigued by Keelin Smith
I think he could wind up being a huge, huge pickup as time goes along.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
Is he a better prospect than Brutus?
I keep lumping them together.
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
I think so
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2010 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
At 6'3 does he have the hips to play DB?
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions
I'll throw out a Bobby Taylor comparson
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe we can manufacture some NFL players again.
If Stoops can get a few of these guys ready to go pro early then it will show that we can put guys in the league again and open up slots for new recruits every year. How many players have we had drafted in the last few years? With our previous coaching staff we couldn’t recruit well nor develop guys. Those guys made FSU a tough sell to high schoolers whose only REAL aspiration was to be a millionaire by making it to the NFL.
Another good DB class next year (already have Brutus and Smith on board) will make our secondary’s talent level approach Alabama’s.
That is definitely the goal
of every kid on our board.
Another good DB class next year (already have Brutus and Smith on board) will make our secondary’s talent level approach Alabama’s.
He’s not kidding.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
Still have a ways to go in other positions though.
It’s amazing how once your program gets so good that 4* players agree to wait their turn at playing. Dre Kirkpatrick signed up to play under Arenas and the handful of other 6’+ DBs they have. He’s doing his time on kick coverage now, but at so many other schools you would see him play respectable minutes at CB the first year. (I would say “at schools like FSU,” but we’re a bad example having the second worst BCS conference team defense.)
I knew every player’s name, number, weight, and height from the juggernaut that was FSU of the ’90’s football. However, my knowledge was very superficial and I didn’t realize how recruiting worked. I knew we were absolutely stacked at depth because Keith Jackson kept saying it, but failed to recognize that guys wanted to play at FSU so badly. FSU turned out NFL draft picks by the dozen every year, but these guys expected redshirts and waited their turn.
Things are different now and players are clamoring for early playing time, but there are still schools like UF and Alabama where high schoolers sign up to play in 2 years—not the fall following freshman summer drills. We can be one of those if we can maintain a stable of active coaches that produces quality NFL players again.
They were higher on that Lawrence kid than Drey but he turned out to be really learning disabled, to the point where college was just not an option
We’re getting much bigger in the front-7 and quickly.
2008 our front-7 measured 1735lbs
2009 we were 1786
2010 we should be somewhere around 1830 and in 2011, I expect FSU to field a defense over the 1850lb mark, which combined with Fla speed is sick.
What was the number to aim for again? 1810?
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
Was there a max?
I thought it was just as high as possible without sacrificing too much speed
Speak softly, and carry a big Spear
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 1:26 AM EST up reply actions
No max
Bama and BC had 2 of the top 3 defenses in the country and were over 1900
ALmost every top D was over 1835
yeah, not a max
meant the min. number to aim for (should have worded it that way). Sorry for the confusion.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
We can only go up in size.
After having a starting DE (Yarborough) weigh in under 245 and another “DT” at 265ish (Dawkins) our front seven size had to be one of the lowest totals in FBS at times.
Your article on Bigger is Better was groundbreaking for a sports blog. I don’t read Football Outsiders or anything like that regularly so maybe they had done exposés on it, but the way you presented it was incredible. You, again, were ahead of our lame duck coaching staff.
I went McNiel/White for the DE combo and McCray/McDaniel for the interior
I like to think that Fisher used that and said “see, even this moron who has never coached ball can see the problem.” I doubt he did, but then again he saw the advantage of size and leverage under Nick at LSU.
I plan to do it again this off-season. BC got a ton smaller and stayed great. They are tremendously coached and UGA should have grabbed Spaziani for their DC
I look forward to even the off-season articles.
Last year you got pretty creative in breaking down the previous season.
Yep
Actually, you’ve talked a lot about this importance (see BC). I’ve put the numbers together and we will finally be in the elite. Especially assuming Bradham, Jones, and Luc on the same field.
great weekend
dent,d.johnson,nigel,tye,werner,jacobs,erving and cummings will be here for their visits 1/15/10 cummings will help with the loose ends
When FSUSOM said
tomorrow I did not know he literally meant at the stroke of midnight.
I'm loving it
Welcome to FSU, Terrence Mitchell. It’s a great time to be a ‘nole! That ratcheting sound is our recruiting class ranking going up – might be hard to hear over all the noise, but that’s just fine. Come February it’s going to sound like a casino full of jackpots going off.
"He went into this whole spiel about Shaolin monks or something like that, how we need to be like Shaolin monks and how they don't talk for 15 years and stuff." - Caz Piurowski about Coach Coley
Corey Cooper or Jeremy Deering is the next question? if it was up to me i would take both
by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 15, 2010 1:13 AM EST up reply actions
maybe both
I think there may be a real shot this class changes, and some of the softer commitments go elsewhere as we improve the class
The fact that you can answer questions
as I’m typing them is either extremely impressive or very creepy.
I was just fixing to ask if there’s a situation where we take both if they both wanna be Noles.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 15, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
we'd take both IMO
Speak softly, and carry a big Spear
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
Which ones?
Terrell
Haggins
T Smith
Any others?
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
Telvin Smith is a keeper for sure
I’d trade Terrell for Akuna in a second, would probably trade him for Kitchens as well. I’d like to see us give Kitchens a shot.
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions
I like Telvin too but
I thought he was looking elsewhere.
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions
any way to listen live?
I’d like to hear it next time you’re on
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 1:31 AM EST up reply actions
Not sure. I was definitely not my best today.
Knocked that foxsportsradio one out of the park this summer.
Ah, I remember that
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 1:37 AM EST up reply actions
I had no idea what he was saying on the fox one
I’m not good listening to southern accents.
When I hear girls with them it’s awesome, but guys with them and I can’t understand a word.
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 1:38 AM EST up reply actions
Bet you struggled with the "Lane Mutha-F***in Kiffin" video.
“Oh, it’s time, Mutha-F***a!” pissssssssss
Put it this way
I’ve listened to a couple dozen FSU baseball games online, and I still haven’t understood a word that Chip Baker has said.
Speak softly, and carry a big Spear
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 1:47 AM EST up reply actions
I had the same problem
when I first moved down south.
Now I can understand the words coming out of the mouths of Bobby Bowden, Paula Dean, and Larry the Cable Guy…whom I think are secretly the same person, btw.
"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." Jack Handy
by PeachTreeNole on Jan 15, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I remember seeing posts in the past on here
that showed an archive – from there (the website) I’d imagine there’s a “listen live” feature.
I think (if I’m remembering correctly) Mike posted the links on here himself.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
Nice...Would be sweet if you could do a couple of segments of SST
over here in Pensacola. The host is a huge FSU homer who is terrible at hiding it, but does a stellar job dealing with all the mouth breathing idiots who continually call in and ask what is going on with Bama every 10 minutes.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 15, 2010 1:34 AM EST up reply actions
Thank God...some of the other seminole podcasts are laaaaaaame.
not naming any names :)
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 15, 2010 1:40 AM EST up reply actions
Nice
really looking forward to that. If you need a fan to call in and make a fool of himself, I might could be your man.
"He went into this whole spiel about Shaolin monks or something like that, how we need to be like Shaolin monks and how they don't talk for 15 years and stuff." - Caz Piurowski about Coach Coley
Yeah...it would be hilarious
For a couple of us to act like we’re “calling in” with some scripted questions, only for FSUn to act completely surprised.
“I’m so glad you asked that, as we were planning on addressing that on Today’s show”
Then do your thing.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 15, 2010 1:44 AM EST up reply actions
awesome!
Some non-nole sites I’ve lurked at do them and they are a big hit.
Speak softly, and carry a big Spear
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 1:42 AM EST up reply actions
Do you need a south florida reporter?
I go to some of the games here in Broward and scout some of the talent here.
Go Noles!!
by AbeFroman21 on Jan 15, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Sure! Absolutely!
Any time any of our readers to to a HS game, send us some stuff on it. Even if you think you don’t write well (and Abe you do so this doesn’t apply to you). We’ll clean it up.
Thanks!
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
I live right down the road from
Independence and Butler High schools. If my woman isn’t nagging the crap out of me in the fall, maybe i can scout LeMay and others. Also, Rock hill is right down the road. The charlotte area in general is starting to turn into a hotbed of southeast talent. Almost like a mini-Atlanta.:)
No prob,
Maybe i can plant some subliminal bugs in these kids ears. (i.e. drop arrowheads in their backyard etc.)j/k. anything i can do though, seriously.
a podcast from bud
Would = me sh*tting my pants …..in a good way….if that’s possible
by LetsGoNoles on Jan 15, 2010 1:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You know what I'm looking forward to, the Jimbo Fisher Call in show...
Coherent well thought out football answers for the first time in a decade!
If only we could expect...
coherent, well thought out football questions, too. I suppose that’s asking too much.
by arrdub on Jan 15, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I am going to call him and ask him what is the latest with Mizell and Downs.
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em
Can you ask him about Callahan Bright, too?
I heard someone saw him on campus the other day.
Also, I’m really looking forward to seeing/hearing Jimbo on the call in show. Anytime I watched Bobby’s show for more than 2 minutes (especially after a loss) got my blood pressure up.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 15, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
awesome
I love his frame. Also his HS.
Speak softly, and carry a big Spear
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 1:30 AM EST up reply actions
me too
I think a lot of evaluators (I’m talking about people from recruiting sites not coaches) misjudge a player’s frame and don’t see how much weight can be added or if the player is virtually maxed out.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
Look at Wadsworth. Arrived at 215 pounds. Played both DE and DT.
Consensus All-American in ’97 and 3rd overall draft pick.
Obviously this is atypical, but possible.
Sessions, who is definitely not ready
We could also sign and place some kids.
The new staff is much more secretive about leaking stuff, so we don’t know exactly which kids are not likely qualifiers. Word does get out when they have a good academic kid tho. Like
Holmes is harvard
Kenny is qualified
Mitchell is qualified
Erving is qualified
Trickett & Luc EE’d
Etc.
Our big boy in Louisiana needs a 17 on his ACT but he told TN the other day he thinks he has that taken care of and feels confident
Telvin Smith is a keeper, we don’t greyshirt him or sign and place him unless his grades are brutal, which again, I haven’t heard that.
For example:
If we get Cooper, someone Abrams may look elsewhere?
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 15, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions
Also
Abrams has been FSU for a long time. I want kids like in the mold of him, Cummings, and Jacobbi.
by scotradamus on Jan 15, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
People sell Abrams short
had it not been for his injury, people would be a lot more excited about him
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2010 1:24 AM EST up reply actions
Out of the 3 that td put forth, who is most likely to go?
Hypothetically speaking.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 15, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions
Terrell for sure
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah...It's interesting to get everyone's opinion when this question arises.
I like Smith over Terrell mahself. Don’t know the plan for Haggins.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 15, 2010 1:26 AM EST up reply actions
Eh, whatever with Haggins
I’m still of the mindset that as long as we get Green and Shaw, I don’t really care who the other WRs are to round out the class.
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions
And to think, a month or so ago I was buggin because we lost Noel. LOL
Sorry, just had to put that out there
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 15, 2010 1:29 AM EST up reply actions
This recruiting cycle has been wild, no doubt
I was horribly upset when Corey Miller flipped.
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions
So what was in them?
No names necessary.
Finger pointing?
Disagreement on who was deserving of an offer?
Disarray?
FSUN <—- flippin
SWFLNole <—- UF can still only take 28, they’ll get theirs but we knew they, we’ll have a good class
Normal
I flip out some, too, when I see some of the stuff that happens. I go through pots of coffee like it’s nothing, though, that probably has something to do with it.
"He went into this whole spiel about Shaolin monks or something like that, how we need to be like Shaolin monks and how they don't talk for 15 years and stuff." - Caz Piurowski about Coach Coley
lol
anything of value actually makes it to this site. the rest is mostly crying and MattD farting on a snare drum.
isnt an 'airheads' quote an automatic 'delete'
i was led to believe that was the case…
anyone illin?
sorry, felt like a seminole rap reference
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by tdchrisdavis on Jan 15, 2010 1:52 AM EST up reply actions
T Rex
I am impressed that a little 5’9, 165lb guy has T Rex as his nickname. He must be mean…. Seems like we have a lot of short dbs now.
by NoleySmokes on Jan 15, 2010 7:58 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Inthe 1st video....
you can see the kid’s not scared to hit. I’m getting excited about this class. No we’re not really competing w/ the UF’s, UA’s & UT’s (Texas, f-bombs on Tennessee) however, we’re controlling what we can control and doing good enough to dominate in the ACC. This is where it starts, who knows where it goes? ; )
congrats and
welcome T-Rex. i’m stoked to have you on board the express train to the top!!
How big should a DB be?
We have Reid already at around 165. Now LJ at 166, T. Brooks & T-Rex at 165. How are those guys going to do against runners like Smiley at 230 or receivers like Fortson (don’t know how much he weighs)
We have a good mix of size in our DB crop.
Do need a good mix of typically smaller, quicker guys and then the bigger kids that are able to wrestle with the bigger, more physical WRs. But we have Harris coming in from CA who is taller, and then look at our early 2011 commits. Should be able to put the right combo on the field.
Beyond pure height considerations, a guy like Joyner shouldn’t be judged based solely on where you level the book against a doorframe. Look at pictures on the web; he’s has an enormous wingspan/reach for his height, and the athletic ability on top of it to deal with much larger receivers. Remember Alphonso Smith vs. Greg Carr? Joyner held his own with the big guys at the UA camp, from the videos I saw.
Exactly, ever seen someone pick a pass off with their head?
Rhodes is a very big and promising corner too.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2010 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
also im pretty sure terrence brooks isnt 165
and he isnt short either, i’ve seen him in person, hes about 6’0 (if not more) and probably in the range of 170.
saftey like/wr like.
"theres two types of people in this world, those who CARRY a spear and those who FEAR the spear"-James Coley
also his rivals weight coming into the season was like 169-170 i think?
but when i saw him mid season i woulda geussed him in the high 170’s, and weightlifting season is about to kick off also for boys here, so its not impossible imo to see him at 180 coming in at fsu.
"theres two types of people in this world, those who CARRY a spear and those who FEAR the spear"-James Coley
He's only what 17??
By this pick he can easily fill out to 180-185 with our s&c program.
by FtLauderdaleNole on Jan 15, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
oh yea definitely
he’ll be in the 190’s by the time he leaves fsu, players like g5 and bert have frames that cant or wont add too much more weight, but players like cam erving and terrence brooks have high high ceilings for weight gains.
"theres two types of people in this world, those who CARRY a spear and those who FEAR the spear"-James Coley
It's rare you find a 6'+ CB with the athleticism to hang with a talented WR of any size.
CB is maybe the most challenging position, athletically-speaking, on the entire field.
Pumped about that!
Get him to work on holding on to the rock, we don’t want ball security getting in the way of any of those 106-yard TDs that should be in his future. I am sure Coley can give him some tips.
wow 180? lj is a freak of nature
i cant wait to see greg, lj, brooks and t-rex patrolling the secondary for the next couple years.
"theres two types of people in this world, those who CARRY a spear and those who FEAR the spear"-James Coley
Any chance that we have some signing day surprises that the staff already has silent commits.
I love the long term recruiting roller coaster that comes with college football but the last minute, never saw it coming, major recruit flip has always been one of my favorite things to expierence about this time of year.
Do you think we have some of them this year? If so, are any of them going against us where we lose someone?
Looks like another hard-hitter who's not afraid to come up and smack a RB.
I like that we have a few of those guys that can lay the wood. Should be a welcome change from watching #22 run away from guys…
welcome aboard T-Rex!!
Excited to see how Stoops mold these kids.
Go Noles!
If you had to rank our class from who we're most likely to keep to who we'd be most likely to drop...
Where would everyone sit? If we ended up with more commitments than spots and greyshirting/JUCO playing wasn’t possible, who are the first players to go?
First to go
Haggins and Seessions. But, Greyshirting and JUCO is an option and most of these kids are good kids who’d I would hate to lose
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
I really hate the sentiment about Haggins.
Just seems so gator-ish to take a kid like this and cast them aside. I understand the evolution of the game and need to maximize scholarship use, but it is sad to see one of our first commits, and a relative of one of our coaches, get pushed aside. Sigh.
He would get lost in our depth here
Better for him to go somewhere else where he will get PT
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
I know.
I just think that, as a program, your “commitment” should be trustworthy. If you offer a kid, within the confines of certain standards/expectations, you should not go back on your word (see below re: FSUn’s qualification about no visits, which I am OK with). You can explain to him about depth chart concerns, but it needs to be his decision about whether he comes on board or not, once he’s been offered and then committed (again with certain qualifications).
There has to be a line where you are operating at maximum efficiency but maintaining some level of integrity. We don’t want to turn into a place where Lane Kiffin would be comfortable.
If he's soft to FSU and looking around
I have no problem dumping him, especially if there are better players of need that want to come here.
Non Mollare, non mai mollare!
ItaliaNole A.K.A. SavvysNole
How would axing Haggins fit your criteria
w/r/t burning bridges?
My values: I love my wife, admire my dog, and believe very deeply that Bobby Bowden and Paula Dean were separated at birth.
by PeachTreeNole on Jan 15, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
If he's taking visits, probably not. If not then we have a doifferent ballgame.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
I guess that's a reasonable standard.
If we offer you at any point, and you show total commitment, then you’re iron-clad. I just hope that’s an established baseline from the outset.
I don't know if we would "burn any bridges" with Lakeland if we dropped him.
I think Odell might care more than LHS (at least I would if I were him). But I don’t think it would help us make any inroads to the school. Haven’t done too well there lately.
Welcome to the team Mr. Mitchell.
Striker: "Surely you can't be serious!" Rumack: "I am serious... and don't call me Shirley."
Mitchell
Does Rivals officially have Mitchell on our board?
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