Lauderdale Lakes (FL) Safety Demar Dorsey to sign with Florida State
by SWFLNole. on Jan 25, 2010 10:24 PM EST
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Luke Stampini of SoFlaFootball.com broke the story.
Demar Dorsey de-committed from Florida today and committed to FSU. The de-commitment is something I've been expecting for several months. UF recruits are saying Dorsey decommitted as well as other sources in the thick of Dorsey's recruitment. Look for former Tennessee 'pals' Eddie Gran [current FSU RB coach] and Lane Kiffin to butt heads for Dorsey over the next 9 days. -- Stampini
Most of the FSU sites have been aware since late Friday night, and if Stampini had let this slip it might not have come out till signing day. But the news is out so here is some info on the speedy safety prospect. Boyd Anderson High School Defensive Back Demar Dorsey has made it know that he intends to switch his commitment from the Florida Gators to the Florida State Seminoles. This is yet another feather in the hat for the Seminoles recruiting class. Keep in mind that despite going 6-6 in the regular season, FSU will reign in one of the top classes in the country, while filling positional and numerical needs. Here at TN, we have expressed the opinion that the 2010 cycle is heavier on talent at defensive back and lighter on defensive line talent so there may be some need to continue to take more talented DBs even though we have depth issues at DL this year. Re-stocking the defense is not a one year fix, and Jimbo Fisher knows that.
HT: 6'1''
WT: 180
Speed: 4.25 40-yard Dash/ 10.44 100-Meter
Vertical: 40''
Rankings: ESPN 85 #2 overall safety, #12 overall/ Rivals 5.8 4*
Academics: There has been some concern, but Demar says he will qualify and has apparently gained his ACT score.
Other offers: UF, USC, Tennessee, Miami, Michigan, UNC. Alabama showed serious interest.
Evaluation:
Dorsey is a terrific athlete. He will instantly become one of the most athletic kids on FSU's team when he steps on campus. He is a track star. When people talk about his speed it is real, as he is probably the fastest senior football player in the state of Florida this year. When he decides to tackle, he can really lay the wood, but there are definite technique problems there. Dorsey shows elite body fluidity in the lower half and gets to the point on the football field where he needs to be. Excellent acceleration, hips, ect. He lacks the overall type of bulk and strength you would like to see but he has outstanding potential. Dorsey is also inconsistent on the field, looking like a 5* recruit some games, but also completely disappearing other games. If he can put it together, this kid could be Reggie Nelson part two, his potential is that high. The very definition of a boom or bust recruit.
Scout.com on his talent (Free):
As athletic as any player in the country with his combination of great size, frame, speed, and first step quickness. He's further ahead athletically than as a player. He can get caught turning the wrong way, has trouble getting off blocks, and is sloppy in his tackling form, but with the ball in his hands on returns and letting his instincts as an athlete takeover, he show’s that he’s special. Definition of an upside recruit.
Scott Kennedy (free)
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Recruitment:
Demar Dorsey has been a UF commitment throughout the process and just switched his intentions to FSU this week. Many have expressed that they think UF would not take him. I was actually told this point blank, that he had to look around. The reasons are plenty, he had grade concerns which now appear to be taken care of and may still have some off the field concerns. We at TN will not try to hide that fact. However, if and when he is qualified he is a kid who has huge potential. UF evaluates better than almost every school in the country, especially in the defensive backfield (look at the guys they have had playing S for them) and they took Dorsey early (October 2008). He looked at a bunch of schools but settled in at FSU.
Film:
Not much here honestly for free, but he played in the Under Armour Game and was one of the best players on the field. I was there and his athleticism really was quite remarkable. These games are set up to make safeties look good, but it was obvious.
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Hell yeah
That’s what I’m talking about
by ValdostaNole on Jan 25, 2010 10:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Awesome
You said he has some off the field issues, can someone elaborate? (or is it simply academics?)
From what I have read
he will get in, the question will be, can he stay in.
If he qualifies and can pass at FSU
OMG watch out. . .
by freshcollegeboy on Jan 26, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
i hope deering doesnt take his spot at UF
by Zach_Nole on Jan 25, 2010 10:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Dont think so
..not with Matt Elam going to UF. Im sure Elam going to UF had a large part of Dorsey switching from UF to FSU and most likely will keep other safeties from going there.
In this class alone UF has
Elam
Dowling
Haden (Jordan)
All safeties
and Josh Shaw is reportly already 6-1 195. And he’s no Cromartie speed wise, so he’ll end up at Safety as well IMO
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 26, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
I heard some UF people say they were going to start Dowling at WR.
That could have just been a recruiting ploy to continue landing safety talent. I don’t know.
2 hours...
Check in when you wake up.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 25, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry, but I'm not falling for this again!
I’ll just wait for NSD being that it’s only 9 days away. Then and only then will I get excited about Dorsey.
Welcome to Seminole Nation
I’m happy to have Demar aboard. I hope he can get in and stay in and become a game changer. This class is amazing after the season we just had. Our staff is serious!
Anyone want to take a shot at what other players we’ll land for this class?
by NyNole13 on Jan 25, 2010 10:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Just when I planned not to log on today...
…TN PULLS ME BACK IN! Damn you! Trying to contain myself about how improved this defense may be.
Stay classy, Tallahassee!
Same here. Was all set to go to bed, but thought...ah, what the hell, ill check TN one more time...
Now i won’t be in bed for another good half-hour, ATLEAST!
This is why I just follow the twitter.
A little treat before I go to bed.
2010 AD = 1 AB for FSU
by nolewhacker on Jan 25, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
I am going to give Demar the benefit of the doubt here.
I’ve made my thoughts clear on him and I truly hope he proves me wrong.
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 25, 2010 10:45 PM EST reply actions
I don't think it does
I think it solidifies Greg Dent to WR though.
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 25, 2010 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Right. I am not getting carried away with it. I will bellieve it when he actually signs...
but I will have fun with it while I can.
Isn't Deering a little like Dent in that he wants to play offense?
If that is indeed the case, getting Dorsey could possibly help matters with Deering.
by Noletorious on Jan 25, 2010 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
That's the ONE thing that worries me about Deering
Is “other schools” promising him the world (offense/WR), then turning him into a safety/CB once he’s signed.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 25, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
I think Jimbo would give the option.
Hell, he’s letting Jacobi play baseball.
We have plenty of DBs this year and next, so telling one or more (Dent & Deering) of them that they can try O is no big deal. If they turn out to better than some other recruits (Haggins, DJJ), let them play there.
Florida State has arguably the three fastest players in Florida.
Lamarcus Joyner, Demar Dorsey as well as Terrence Mitchell.
SCALP 'EM SEMINOLES!
Would require one heck of a blown coverage to give up any more 70+ yards plays with those 3 on the field.
And a 40" inch vertical? The idea of that type of explosion is mystifying to me.
by The K-Man on Jan 26, 2010 12:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, but hell, UF never gets bored collecting speed
Our speed just needs to be coached
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 26, 2010 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
But I don't want him returning kicks, at least not when the game is on the line
Looks like he has trouble reading the lanes from the highlight video. G5 & Joyner are much better at it. IMO
I do think he can be coached on returns, but right now G5 & Joyner are better.
Does anyone remember that picture of the UF 40 time board?
That was obviously greatly exaggerated? I think it had Harvin at 4.20, and Demps at like a 4.22 with Rainey at 4.29?
Anyways, 3 guys under 4.3? I’m just saying, I don’t think you can put that much stock in those 40 times.
BUT…If he’s a true 4.25. Damn, man. That’s scooting.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 26, 2010 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
OK good. I thought maybe I dreamt that.
But it was total crap. What’s the source of the 40 time?
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 26, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
I dunno. That would be nice to know. Could be some kid with a watch or laser timed for all I know
class of 99
Could be. Was UA laser timed? If so that boy can move.
Having said that lateral movement and acceleration are really what matter most
class of 99
Or you can just be like G5 and be a greased pig that no one can hold on to mixed with crazy vision and speed.
It really is amazing watching Greg the first couple people to him just cant get any sort of hand on him. He is so good at making people miss.
class of 99
Yeah...
I remember watching his highlight reel from HS thinking “He wont’ be able to do that in college”
I must say, my words taste completely awesome.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 26, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
Its almost hard to believe. Its like he has the time slowing effect ala matrix or max payne.
easily one of the most exciting players to watch
class of 99
by xWd40x on Jan 26, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The most exciting return..
..I seen (of his many awesome ones) was his against Wake. He fielded the ball, stood there a second and exploded around the first wave. Then found his lane and took it to the house. Even the game against Maryland, he broke some people ankles returning punts. The kid is phenomenal and has great vision with elite acceleration speed, and to think he’s was just a true Freshman. Now this coming season with him AND Joyner back there……watch out boys, all you’re going to see is the spears (on their helmets) flying through the air.
Kinda of like a Barry Sanders when he returns the kicks.
Lokks like he hits a pile and bounces back like rubber, then finds a crease.
40 time
The 4.25 was ran at the UA combine
by FSUFEARTHISSSPEAR on Jan 26, 2010 1:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
40 time
The 4.25 was ran at the UA combine
by FSUFEARTHISSSPEAR on Jan 26, 2010 1:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Lazer times are the most accurate.
Pressure is released from a pinpad at the beginning and then at the end the person’s body has to be completely through the lazer beam to stop the clock. It is accurate to 1/100th of a second. Unless its lazer timed most coachs wont accept the time.
The only 40 times I trust are at the NFL scouting combine
Sine they are laser timed and are broadcast on television. I’ll just venture to say that Joyner and Mitchell have compable speed to Harley with Demar maybe being the fastest of them all. That UF board was crap though, Louis Murphy (He of the supposed 4.28) ran a 4.43 at the combine. Harvin ran a 4.41 but his ankle still had a hairline fracture at the time
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 26, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
Heard Terrence Brooks can scoot a bit too
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 26, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
brooks is in the 4.4 range
impressive for his size (6’ 170) hes not a jittery fast like lemarcus or demar, hes a long legged glider type.
"theres two types of people in this world, those who CARRY a spear and those who FEAR the spear"-James Coley
I wish we could find a picture of that board...
Anyone got an idea of where to find it?
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 26, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
Here you go. Don't know how to embed pics
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 26, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
God that was money.
If the link worked, I’d be stoked…
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 26, 2010 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
correct link and picture
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
Harvin
Harbin is a stud, migraines and all. Even if he did go to Gainesville…
by NoleySmokes on Jan 26, 2010 7:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree on the 40 times
Until you get to the NFL combine, they are all exaggerated. The only player that really ran a true 4.25 in the 40 was Deion. I think Demps is the real deal speed-wise though – he ran a 10.01 in the 100 to set a high school record his senior year.
Harvin got a lot better as a player when he bulked up and got stronger – allowing him to break that first tackle.
No doubt about Harvin.
He was/is a monster. Demps has yet to realize that kind of strength and it shows.
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
by onebarrelrum on Jan 26, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Mickey said it was the fastest defense ever...
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 26, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
If Pryor runs a 4.2, then Dorsey runs a 3.3...
Morons.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 26, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
Pryor
Now, if he could only pass the ball. He’d be awesome.
by NoleySmokes on Jan 26, 2010 7:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
If they say 4.25
it probably means 4.3-4.35
but STILL!!!
by freshcollegeboy on Jan 26, 2010 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
We absolutely do. Speed wasnt the problem last year.
But the Big 3 mentioned above have that “Patrick Robinson chasing down Noel Devine” football speed.
Let’s just hope they don’t do too much chasing.
by The K-Man on Jan 26, 2010 1:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
What kind of defense scheme does FSU use?
by Julio Nievas on Jan 26, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
I had a feeling he would change after Elam...
but I still don’t think he ever steps foot on Bobby Bowden Field.
Hate to say this, but in that 2nd clip...
Does the #2 + his frame/long legs + speed remind anyone else of a certain Nole great?
But he’s supposedly a safety, right?
Was it supposed to be hard to figure out?
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
"But How will I know limits from lies, if I never try."
by geoffissiffoeg on Jan 26, 2010 8:29 AM EST up reply actions
I was referencing Deion's decision to mentor Devin Hester.
I actually don’t have a problem with it, but would have just preferred if he had historically been doing a lot of that with our guys, too, you know?
Hopefully the staff can do a better job out reaching out to alumni
Not just Deion, but Cromartie, Samari Rolle, D-Jack, Chris Hope who’s a good character guy. People like that need to be welcomed back and carry the flag for our program. Hell, THEY made it what it used to be!
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 25, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
I would love for our guys in the NFL to say they came from Florida State when they are playing on Monday night
I would love to reach out to even guys like Coles.
We really do need to do a better job with alumni support.
I'm kinda sad about how Coles feels, even to this day
Went to the NFL, had a good career, and hasn’t harmed a fly in a decade
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 25, 2010 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
All he did in the end was what any of us would do
Have a friend hook us up with a discount.
Man, is Dilliards even open still?
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 25, 2010 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
Have a really nice one
in Miami. High end sutff.
The jury is still out on Chris Hope
After his little bitch comments “Florida State of the 90’s” every time he got introduced, I got sour on him. Maybe the regime change can sway him back, but I could care less about him.
Dillards is still open. In fact, there are 2 adjacent to one another in PCola. mens and womens.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 25, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
I remember watching when he said that...
And I thought, “What a D-bag”
"CHANGE - its punching U in the mouth!!!" - Coach Coley Tweet
by pasadenanole22 on Jan 25, 2010 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah.
If Chris Hope never came back to FSU, I could care less.
Seriously, do you hear guys saying “Nebraska of the early 90’s?” or “Miami of the 80’s”?
Hell no. it won’t matter soon anyways, he’s almost done.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 25, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
I wish I went to FSU in the 90's.
Does that make me a bitch or hope I never go back? Were you both not embarrassed by our football team lately?
I understand being proud of the team during ups and downs.
But I also have been embarrassed. I never saw a loss at Doak when I was there.
class of 99
I would sure as hell wouldn't like it if she said I married David of the 90s.
Most fans wouldn’t qualify their support that way. You are a Nole fan or you’re not.
It’s just stupid to announce your school that way.
Trick...
I realize you like to “discuss” these things, but let me lay it down for you real simple like,
1.) IMO, he’s being a little bitch about it. That’s my opinion. I don’t have to defend it.
2.) I haven’t heard other players say “Miami of the 80’s” or “Nebraska of the early 90’s” or whatever. Have you?
You can be embarrassed all you want, but FSU gave him the opportunity to make it to the NFL. If you think that’s acceptable behavior, then that’s fine. I don’t.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 26, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while
Besides, we have some posters who like to ask “baited” questions about one’s opinion, then refuse to give up when they find a manageable argument and pound it into the pavement.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 26, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
Because some people like to turn this into a pissing contest
instead of a forum for intelligent sports discussion and “occasional” debate. I’ll save my firefights for the Tharinger and dumba** scUM fans
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 26, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah...I agree
I won’t be sucked into it.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 26, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
Personally, I prefer to pull the aBill O'Reilly
Make a point. Maybe go back and forth once or twice to clarify or make a counter-point, but then I’ll just let you get the last word in & let it go. particularly if it’s a reading/interpreting the stats kind of think. If it’s nit-picking words, I’ll probably just concede the language. If you make a point, it stands on its own.
Exactly. I prefer your approach.
Some people just don’t know when to quit.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 26, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
i like the 'abill oreilly' term -
can i use that?
Where were you guys 10 days ago?
I got fed up with this going trend, so I posted a comment about it in tdcd’s off-topic thread and heard crickets. Crickets riding tumbleweed.
sorry - i would have rec'd you
these types of antics give me rivals flashbacks which in turn gives me hives..
If you would take the time to read the post
I referred to the comments as little bitch comments…Not Hope himself.
Good point Matt, I guess Hope liked being a Nole only when the going was good, eh?
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 26, 2010 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
Comments like that only show how far the program had fallen IMO
From all accounts besides that, he’s a good dude, but you would know more than me. It was irritating though I must say
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 26, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
Glad you didn't say, "Beat up your step-mom."
"The other day I... uh, no, that wasn't me." - Steven Wright
by O-Town Nole on Jan 25, 2010 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He actually told Devine to go to prep school.
And he would have been wise to steer him away from FSU at the time, given our track record with other RBs. Today is a different story.
Question for everyone
Are you happy he is coming to FSU simply because he was once a UF commit?
Here is why I have reservations.
1. Academics
2. Off the field issues
Haven’t we seen enough of that in the last decade at FSU?
Sure I could give him the benifit of the doubt, but one of my biggest issues with FSU over the last decade is going after stellar athletes but horrible character.
At the same time I know we need some players at the safety position so I’m not sure just yet.
He's off to Northern Alabama if he makes trouble
You are not alone in your opinion. Those that have spoken with him (a lot) say that he is not a bad kid.
Can't say I know much about his character as I have not kept up with him until recently, but..
Im not sure he is a prima donna like (some of) our previous recruits.
A lot of low character guys turn out to be great kids in the end.
For the record, I know nothing about Dorsey’s character aside from the hints. But it’s not like he shot the president.
I do think, though, with the balance of our class seemingly of a higher grade than many that preceded it, we’ll have enough good character guys to usher the kids with problems in the right direction.
unfortunately we need some of those guys
I will admit, a big part of my joy is the perception we TOOK him from UF even though our recruiting staff at TN has enough integrity to mention everything, including the possibility that UF sent him packing instead of us plucking him away.
Bottom line, I will hope he gets his @$#! together and that he will get the support he needs. If he does what he is supposed to, he can be a special player for FSU
I've always suspected that UF was going to let him go
At least in the past few weeks to a month.They invited Deering(3*) to an OV, but told Jeffcoat (A 5*) to stay away? Come on, the writing was on the wall. They have reservations, but we need talent. Plus, if we get Deering we’ll have a buffer anyway. Best DB class in the nation
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 25, 2010 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
I apologize but I missed a connection
I get why they would go after Deering, but I dont understand turning away Jeffcoat. Is he another borderline kid?
They went after Deering to flip the kid or poision him on FSU
Jeffcoat? Totally unexplainable. Just handed him to USC or OU on a freaking platter. No known grade concerns either, just told em they were “full”
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 25, 2010 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
Shoot, Im fine with it
Any talented kid that doesnt go to UF is great in my eyes.
So you think it was a Resource Attack?
Force us to commit more resources to Deering than originally anticipated
I think jumping to conclusions saying he has low or horrible character is out of line.
The most that is known is rumor or second hand knowledge. Until he gives a reason to doubt please reserve judgment.
class of 99
You shouldn't fill your class with high-risk athletes
But a talented football player is a talented football player. His grades and off the field behavior may suggest that his goals in life do not include outstanding scholar or model citizen,but that doesn’t mean he should be kept from playing football. His potential is among the elite and its worth a calculated risk.
So, I’m excited about him. I am excited for him, and I hope that he becomes the best he can become and I’m sure we all hope that his improvements extend beyond the football field.
Overall, though, I would agree that 70% of your class should be in the free and clear. The other 30% should be filled with calculated risk, as there is really no reason to not take a chance with 30% of your portfolio.
According to ThaRinger,
Jeff Luc and Demar Dorsey were the two biggest rah-rah guys at the Under Armour game. If you’re into getting pumped, you got the two biggest Nigel Carrs in the state in this recruiting class.
SCALP 'EM SEMINOLES!
This town aint big enough for 2 Nigel Carrs.
Seriously. They would be stepping on each others’ lines for 3+ straight hours.
3 players can’t be the first to congratulate the ball carrier when he’s pushed out of bounds. Simple math.
They’d need to take turns. “Okay, Jeff. It’s your turn to smack Greg on the helmet after this punt return”
by The K-Man on Jan 25, 2010 11:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously.
Carr, Luc, Dorsey=Triple Overcrunkness will cause some kind of black hole on the side line that will eat the entire campus.
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
by onebarrelrum on Jan 26, 2010 8:34 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not one to question a kids character unless he has known issues.
I heard his academic situation was overblown.
I wish this stuff could be quiet.
I really doubt our Staff wanted this blasted every where.
Luke, being the cane he is, probably dislikes this as much as Dent switching...
He does a good job separating his feelings from his site, but I bet he hates it nonetheless…
"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath
I agree. Unfortunately, news gets passed too quickly nowadays.
All it takes is one person to brag about how they know something, and everyone knows it.
SCALP 'EM SEMINOLES!
Well I hope he doesnt read this board with everyone questioning him rather than welcoming him.
I am glad and think he will be a great addition
class of 99
Not so much questioning
More like optimistic skepticism.
The enthusiasm is tempered by what Elam's flip-flop
Also UF telling him to walk gives the feel of us taking their leftovers.
I feel bad for him. Committing to UF so early and with the enthusiasm he showed in the UA clip for being a Gator, must suck to be so high on a school for so long only to be let down when you are so close to having your dream.
Hopefully he appreciates his time at FSU and can find a family away from home in our D-squad. Hoping Carr, G5, Joyner, Luc, & Dorsey can feed off each other’s enthusiasm and spread the energy into our D.
Doesn't have to be
No one wants to be let down twice in similar situations. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
by FloridaStateJay on Jan 26, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Well recruits really can't confide in anyone nowadays.
Look at how Matt Elam’s mom was telling him what to do in the papers.
SCALP 'EM SEMINOLES!
You ebayers with your technology!
"CHANGE - its punching U in the mouth!!!" - Coach Coley Tweet
by pasadenanole22 on Jan 25, 2010 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
Let the WC banfest begin
As always they’ll be the last with the news.
Agree
Not to mention the last men call from god aka UM
by HarlemNoles on Jan 25, 2010 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
Those were very complicated circumstances with Elam
Way more than this situation. But there’s a lot being unsaid I believe. But regardless, Elam played us. Not bitter, but it’s the truth
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 25, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
How often is a player committed to their dream school from basically middle school with a 10 day hiatus committed to their bitter rival weeks before signing day?
Played.
by The K-Man on Jan 25, 2010 11:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Man you seem nit-picky
How often is a player committed to their dream coach from basically middle school with a 10 day hiatus committed to their bitter rival weeks before signing day?
Better for you?
by NoleLaw on Jan 26, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
hey, man. let me fight my own fights!
JK.
by The K-Man on Jan 26, 2010 1:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I would take Dorsey over Elam anyday...
I asked about our chances of getting him over a year ago and not one person replied. So, I steadily watched the news on this kid as he moved higher and higher in the ratings. Yes – some are worried about his character, but I happen to like a kid with an edge, especially if there is a chip on his shoulder when it comes to UF.
After watching both play in their respective all-star games, I have to give it to Dorsey over Elam. Personally, I thought Elam was good, but nothing spectacular. Demar’s kind of speed is rare. As for qualifying, Dorsey says he has already qualified. He reminds me of Downs, but faster.
No offense to Demar, but...
Downs > Dorsey…
"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath
Where is Willie?
Where is Downs? Is he still at juco? Any chance of him ever coming to Tally?
by NoleySmokes on Jan 26, 2010 8:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Last I heard he left JUCO and hasn’t returned due to personal reasons. I don’t ever see him showing up in Tally.
From the recruiting board
However, there are reports that Willie Downs may enroll in a school in California, and will reopen his recruitment. With the type of talent he is, I would hope Florida State would bring him in. Still, Florida State may not be his best option to start considering the recruits we have brought in the last two cycles. He may get easy playing time as a JuCo at another school. We will update as it happens.
That update was posted after he left his initial JUCO.
Hope he stays
Anyone care to comment on how much of a threat USC is?
by NyNole13 on Jan 25, 2010 11:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions
SoCal has unlimited supply of hoe-stesses at Lane's disposal - Each one finer looking than the last.
It’s like a Babushka Doll of poon.
"The other day I... uh, no, that wasn't me." - Steven Wright
by O-Town Nole on Jan 25, 2010 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
Interestingly enough
I lived for 4 years in SoCal and I’ll tell you straight up; Hollywood sells lies about California, man. There is an absolute vacuum of attractive women out there. I can see more amazingly beautiful women in Tallahassee in one day than I saw in a year out there. It’s shocking.
"He went into this whole spiel about Shaolin monks or something like that, how we need to be like Shaolin monks and how they don't talk for 15 years and stuff." - Caz Piurowski about Coach Coley
I live in LA currently
You’re right, Hollywood does sell lies. But you haven’t talked about the girls from the beach.
by Julio Nievas on Jan 25, 2010 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
definitely. i spent a few days at Newport Beach this fall and saw a bountiless supply or attractive, super-active young women.
by The K-Man on Jan 25, 2010 11:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
haha
Ultimately, I think it’s FSU-USC with FSU getting his signature. USC has much depth in DB.
by Julio Nievas on Jan 25, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
Cali girls are weak
Bunch of money hungry biatches. I lived in Del Mar for five years and only dated transplants. Even then they were “changed” girls.
by NoleySmokes on Jan 26, 2010 8:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
+1 I lived in San Bernardino for a couple years
Also I have lived in 12 other states in mostly metro areas and yeah Tallahassee has some of the best looking women and lots of them.
class of 99
I live in Los Angeles now.
And I have to disagree with you.
"CHANGE - its punching U in the mouth!!!" - Coach Coley Tweet
by pasadenanole22 on Jan 25, 2010 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
This dude knows whats up
Where in Pasadena do you live by??
by Julio Nievas on Jan 25, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
Up in the foothills of the San Gabriels...
I will say, though, that Florida State does have beautiful women.
"CHANGE - its punching U in the mouth!!!" - Coach Coley Tweet
by pasadenanole22 on Jan 25, 2010 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
Cool
You like Lucky Boy’s? Favorite place to eat right now… It’s a shack, but its bomb
by Julio Nievas on Jan 25, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
Lane sucks
I still have a feeling that our staff put enough work in to keep him. Plus the fact he can hit gators each year is better than hoe-stesses
by NyNole13 on Jan 25, 2010 11:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You know what
I welcome this news, he’s a real talent with some amazing potential. I think FSU is a fantastic choice for him. Hopefully he sticks with FSU and our coaching staff will develop him as a fine player.
Welcome Demar Dorsey to Seminole nation!
"He went into this whole spiel about Shaolin monks or something like that, how we need to be like Shaolin monks and how they don't talk for 15 years and stuff." - Caz Piurowski about Coach Coley
This would be awesome if it happens on NSD.
I can see the comparison to Reggie Nelson.
"CHANGE - its punching U in the mouth!!!" - Coach Coley Tweet
by pasadenanole22 on Jan 25, 2010 11:27 PM EST reply actions
Exactly. What the heck has happened to him in the pros?
"CHANGE - its punching U in the mouth!!!" - Coach Coley Tweet
by pasadenanole22 on Jan 25, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
College requires freak athleticism to succeed.
The NFL requires freak athleticism and half a brain to succeed. Except for DT’s!!!
FSUn is M-I-A
That says a little something
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 25, 2010 11:31 PM EST reply actions
I just haven't had time to follow recruiting
The guys who do our recruiting know a lot more about it than I do and I try to leave it up to them.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 25, 2010 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
Figured you were busy. I just know you're not a fan of the kid
You’ve made that abundantly clear
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 25, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
I guess I am somewhat alright with the take provided his academics are in order. The attitude stuff can probably be controlled. Most of the team is decent right now and under new rule it’s about to get stricter.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 25, 2010 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
Is there some concrete things that we should be worried about or
Does he just come across bad?
class of 99
I had people telling me to "consider the source"
when I mentioned on a thread awhile back that Luke said Joyner struggled at times during one of the UA practices.
Luke's recruiting news is gold.
Joyner did just fine in coverage during the UA game. Luke may not be as high on Joyner to begin with. As for Joyner’s ability to hold onto the ball… well…
SCALP 'EM SEMINOLES!
Interesting coincidence
9 minutes after it being posted here, Coley erupted on Twitter with 4 tweets. Heh. I’m sure it’s just a coincidence.
"He went into this whole spiel about Shaolin monks or something like that, how we need to be like Shaolin monks and how they don't talk for 15 years and stuff." - Caz Piurowski about Coach Coley
im happy about this
bert was a player once seeming to be right on his way out with off the feild problems and now look at him, in check and one of our best returning players next season, hopefully jimbo has a great support group set up to keep demar in check (and from what i heard he actually is a very decent kid, just very outspoken and confident on the feild) . and micky thought the 09 defense was fast? this class plus returning players will be off the charts, give it 2 years our d will average a defensive score a game, book it.
"theres two types of people in this world, those who CARRY a spear and those who FEAR the spear"-James Coley
Yeah...
I dunno…hate to judge the kid from a video clip. Maybe he’s just having a little fun…
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 25, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
His ACT score is supposed to be higher than Christian Jones score
He and Dowling are just very different kids it seems. If one were to venture a guess from a :53 soundbite, Dowling just has a more polished presence about him. Dorsey seems more animated more excitable. Not necassarily an indication of bad character though
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 25, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
i completely agree
i’m just saying that if i put my money on one of them to get caught in a stolen hyundai accent, i’d put it on dorsey…
i don’t really know why either…
by garnetandgold on Jan 25, 2010 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
i really don't like this statement after re-reading it...
i hope he ends up being a great student and player
by garnetandgold on Jan 25, 2010 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
Nah man...
You can’t help how you feel. You’re probably not the only one who feels this way…
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 25, 2010 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
And I thought that about Dowling before actually. He's more disarming than Dorsey
I’m not in a position to judge a book by it’s cover anyway. The last FSU recruit with gold teeth was all-acc academic. If his supposed grade concerns never surfaced, people never would have mentioned anything about character concerns. He’s a bit high strung, but as long as he’s a good citizen off the field, I’ll be damned if a team doesn’t need that type of quality.
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 25, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
Oops, take that back then
Antone Smith
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 25, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
Hahaha...
Yeah, I can post a ton of pictures with Greg Reid in grills. I got your point though. Antone didn’t come off as a thug though on campus. Seemed strangely quiet.
SCALP 'EM SEMINOLES!
Heard his background was kinda hellish though
Brother in prision, the whole nine. He said that help drive him for sure.
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 26, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
Right.
Hell, he may just be one of those “characters” that keeps it loose, kinda like PacMan Jones.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 25, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
The fact that you randomly picked a Hyundai Accent
Is freaking hilarious, as an afterthought. Well done.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 25, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
I like him, he's just unique...
my juco baseball coach would always say ‘you need your milk sippers and your whiskey sippers’. This team will hold each other accountable. I think a guy like Demar can fit in this class real well, as a player and a person.
Sounds funny as hell IYAM, I like it!
welcome
demar to Seminole Nation. there is going to be a whole lot of speed and swagger in the FSU secondary again after the hiatus it took. as far as the video’s he is just having fun, not too worried about it just get him on campus and fisher and the warrior staff will take care of the rest
That was a joke, dude. I know what swag is.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 25, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
I have posted this before, but I think it bears repeating.
There was a professional, scientific, double blind study performed by the “Institute of Sports Sciences and Performance Analysis” that proved that there is a definite one to one correlation that MORE SWAGGER=MORE WINS.
You can see the results and read the final report for yourself here at
www.ISSPA.scientficstudyonswagger
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em
He is the recruit Im most concerned with.
Not that we need him the most It just would really bother me to loose out on that kind of legacy player
class of 99
I'm a big USC fan
Doesn’t look like he’s coming in, at all.
by Julio Nievas on Jan 25, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
I get to the USC campus...
two or three times a year. Beautiful campus.
"CHANGE - its punching U in the mouth!!!" - Coach Coley Tweet
by pasadenanole22 on Jan 26, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
rotten neighborhood a block away,though
by Julio Nievas on Jan 26, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
True.
"CHANGE - its punching U in the mouth!!!" - Coach Coley Tweet
by pasadenanole22 on Jan 26, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
He has an official visit. Don’t know if he’ll use it some where else… Who knows, maybe he’ll visit USC… But reading about his recruiting process with him and SC, it doesn’t look good for USC.
by Julio Nievas on Jan 26, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
The USC Grads I know
Are not sold on C. Jones actually committing. I think they are leery of out of state recruits because of the Moody transfer. LA is a long way away from Fla, and his family will more than likely have to move out here with him.
"CHANGE - its punching U in the mouth!!!" - Coach Coley Tweet
by pasadenanole22 on Jan 25, 2010 11:59 PM EST reply actions
If I were a USC fan, I'd be pumped about the Moody transfer.
Let Lame use his scholly on someone else. I haven’t seen much from him
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 26, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
I'm just trying to figure what Randy Spetman is saying.
Use the scholarship that has been freed up since 2007 elsewhere?
SCALP 'EM SEMINOLES!
I can tell you from the insiders i currently subscribe too... and they're trustworthy...
USC’s interest in Jones isn’t what it used to be because he really is a long shot. They’re focusing on Shirley and Vehoko now.
by Julio Nievas on Jan 26, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
I am hearing the same thing about Jones.
"CHANGE - its punching U in the mouth!!!" - Coach Coley Tweet
by pasadenanole22 on Jan 26, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
Thats good to hear.
Despite what everyone says about not worrying about UF I still do. He has spent alot of time their lately.
class of 99
Welcome to Seminole nation Demar!!!!
You looked awesome at the under-armour game – I’ll admit it, I wasn’t happy you were going to UF
The SWAG is coming back to FSU!!!
Welcome to the Seminole Family Demar!
You look a great prospect.
by PadraicTheSeminole on Jan 26, 2010 12:30 AM EST reply actions
First time post, BTW
Hello everybody.
by PadraicTheSeminole on Jan 26, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
welcome to the best nole site on the web ^_^
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Apparently Urban and crew are having a in home visit with Demar tomorrow
hopefully DD doesnt fall for Urbans’ “faith” nonsense
Playin with my money is like playin with my emotions, smokey
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 26, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
O god lord. I can hear it now.
“Ya know Demar your like a son to me and we are a happy family you dont want to break up this family do you. I’m not sure If I could hold on. It makes my heart ache”
class of 99
Another dream? Maybe this time it will be "an angel descended from heaven and left stone tablets saying 'Dorsey to UF'"
But he won’t tell Dorsey that the stone tablets are actually tombstones that will mark Dorsey being buried in the depth chart.
"Another" dream? Was it a dream that told him that he was desitined to coach St. Matthew Elam?
If so, I didn’t hear that.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 26, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
I think it was Sharrif with the dream. some crap about rather dieing on the sidelines than not coaching him
class of 99
How silly of me.
Shariff was the dream. Elam was an actual vision…
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 26, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
Oh man...Hopefully Doc will see this and conjure up something.
An Urban Meyer cartoon with a burning bush would be priceless.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 26, 2010 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
I'm still waiting on Doc to come up with a collage to give adequate treatment to that...
Something with Urban, Sharrif, and a Brokeback Mountain ambience….
He's already got a Brokeback mountain one of Urban and Tebow.
I’ve seen that one before.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 26, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
That idiot ain't coachin next year anyway
Coley should be on the couch when UM arrives
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 26, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
Think about it
If you had a salary of 4 plus million per year at a job you loved,what circumstances would force you to quit? He obviously exhausted every option he had until he had no other recourse but to quit. He had NEVER been forthright as to the specifics of his condition (As is his right I guess), and flat out refused to answer if he was advised by doctors to resign. The timing of the resignation couldn’t have been worse from UF’s standpoint. Right before NSD, after all viable replacements already have jobs, Strong is gone. This whole LOA is a shame, and it’s a sham that Jeremy Foley put him up to IMO. Notice how Mack Brown let it slip that Meyer was coming back in August? He said that right around the UA game and Mack Brown hasn’t been heard from since. He’s running around telling recruits he’s coming back knowing damn well he isn’t. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong, but you don’t ignore health concerns due to a “Spirited Practice” thats bull
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 26, 2010 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
Then there are the reports about the coed sex thing
but regardless of those, Mr. & Mrs. Meyer might be on the rocks and do a splitsville b/c Urbie doesn’t have his priorities on straight. Must be an SOB to live with when he gets into cry baby mode after a loss as was described by the SI article. Next yr. Mrs. meyer will see that much more than she has in recent years.
If he loses
at DCS he might drop right there on the sidelines.
by FloridaStateJay on Jan 26, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Excellent points.
Who the hell knows what the real story is at this point. IMO it was something more personal, and he panicked w/out speaking to Foley.
I think he’ll be back. If he’s telling these kids he’ll be back, and for ANY reason he’s not, I don’t think even the almighty ESPN can save him.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 26, 2010 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
But wait, why are all these coaches from UF's staff making lateral moves?
Except Strong and the DB coach, He and Carter reached out to Charlie for gigs. But Carter and Billy G both made essentially lateral moves. Gonzales and Carter didn’t even do a Kirby Smart and use outside interest to force a raise, they just left. But yeah, he didn’t tell Foley s*** before the resignation and Foley told Urban that he had to fix it (The situation that him resigning would cause)
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 26, 2010 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
Foley and UM talked about Meyer possibly leaving right before his "resignation"
Nobody outside of them knows the absolute truth about his heart condition and how that’s playing into his decision to come back, but Foley was aware of Meyer thinking of getting out and was making plans on replacing him if he did.
by SeminoleSkins87 on Jan 26, 2010 1:41 AM EST up reply actions
Kyle Whittingham
There are talks that the reason Herban decided to stick around and take the LOA was because Foley was already in talks with Whittingham.
Urb is so lame. I can hardly think about him and his douchebaggery
How do people fall for his crap. I would kick him out of my house If he said that crap to my kid.
class of 99
If your kid was a D1 player...
… you’d be happy to have a two time NC coach at your house recruiting your kid. Imagine how people felt when Bowden would show up?
Bowden was genuine and likeable not a lieing salesman. Saying weir crap about dieng for my son.
class of 99
You mean the floyd rumor?
“I read those comments and when I did I immediately spoke with my head coach Ron Cohen. Coach Cohen told me that it was not true at all and nothing like that was ever said. I immediately called Urban Meyer to let him know what was being said on the internet. I wanted to let everyone know that this is total and false information. I never said that to my coach because it did not happen and my coach never said that to anyone. I am going to the University of Florida because that is where I want to go. I have a great relationship with Urban Meyer and I am a Gator. A lot of schools tried to hit me with the religion pitch but not Florida, not at all and that’s how it is and I am not going to change my mind. I have talked to a bunch of my friends and they think this is something that started on one of the Ohio State boards. People are trying to get back at me for not going to Ohio State and not going to their team but I know what I am and that is a Florida Gator.”
And that came from a Gator site
the other report came from a site in Carolina. Believe what you will.
I'll believe Floyd's comments...
… over third party information.
your peeps flip flop all the time
Meyer, then Elam, then Floyd.
Doesn’t matter what the truth is and no one can tell anyway b/c the truth about the Turds changes from minute to minute depending upon whatever is convient at the moment.
Try again
So Urban didn’t speak of faith/religion? And I am supposed to believe this why?
by FloridaStateJay on Jan 26, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
With Meyer visiting...
… he’ll sign with UF on NSD..
Coley is going to need more than that...
It seems that UF will have the last in-home. If that happens and Dorsey doesn’t visit USC next week, he’ll sign with UF. Not to mention the number of UF recruits who will hound Dorsey for the next few days.
not everyone is as gullible as matt elam
Well, gosh, it's a weight off of everybody. I think everybody that is an FSU fan or a coach or a player, this takes a weight off the shoulder. But what does that mean? Seven more days of peace?
by stevegrizzle on Jan 26, 2010 1:37 AM EST up reply actions
check the score again...
roddick up a break in the 4th and took the 3rd….could be a 5 setter in the making…
"You play to WIN the GAME"
holy s*$@# he's now up 2 breaks in the 4th
thanks for the heads-up
now 3 breaks
with the set on his racket…cilic is toast…
"You play to WIN the GAME"
Wow
cilic put on his big boy pants and brought it back…great match.
"You play to WIN the GAME"
This should of never been posted IMHO
and honestly, I doubt he signs with FSU.
Nice pick Up Noles!!!
i personally know this kid through one of his teammates i mentor.
he is not a bad kid at all. he is just from the city in lauderdale lakes, and little rough around the edges.
under proper guidance and training…WE have something special brewing in nole Nation
WELCOME DEMAR !!!
seen 5 games of yours this yr and u def a stud. go do ur thang up there in tally
Good to know. Appreciate the insight.
I think some are overreacting. I hope the kid sticks with FSU, and has a helluva career.
And beats the gators. I hope that more than anything.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 26, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
So...
do you think he’s definitely going to be a Nole? Sounds like UF and USC will be making a final push for him. He does look to have a ton of potential…
by PoseidoNole on Jan 26, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
what does the seminole DB look like next season now?
SS Harley/demps/abrams
FS Parks/Dorsey/Bright (hagens/dent groomed at either S spot?)
DB allen/joyner/harris
DB Jenije/reid/mitchell/rhodes
Moody moves to OLB
allen might be gone
Rhodes over Mitchell.
Speak softly, and carry a big Spear
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 26, 2010 1:42 AM EST up reply actions
I don't want this guy at all
This stinks :/
Grades issues and after seeing that video. This guy is a total joke to me.
No way man. He is an amazing athlete He will be a great add.
And the grades thing is not an issue
class of 99
His grades are find and he's a good athlete
FSU would be lucky to have him.
guy is a blazer
saw him run at few track meets.
BA team was good, but with him they were special.
that 4×100 team should have beaten lamar millers killian team last yr!!!
This reported commitment is untrue and irresponsible journalism
and Urban Meyer is visiting him today. Great job. No other site has reported this for a reason. Without quotes from the kid or coach this is totally unconfirmed rubbish. Matt Elam all over again.
Hahaha..nice try.
It’s been reported everywhere now. Everyone knows it. Didn’t you try this with one of the coaching hires, or was it a different user?
I agree.
I absolutely hate receiving information.
How could TNation be so stupid as to report information that is elsewhere?
This thread should be locked and everyone should be banned.
Yep, I just looked it up, and it's the same guy.
ffnole, you did the exact same thing in the Greg Hudson thread. Don’t you have anything better to contribute?? Are you going to do this for every bit of news? Just because CNN didn’t break their coverage to report it doesn’t mean it’s not true. Sorry.
GREG HUDSON WILL NOT COACH AT FLORIDA STATE
It is irresponsible for you to even suggest that. How dare you, sir?
I get my news the way the good Lord intended: by looking at pictures on the sides of caves. Until I see something about this alleged “Dorsey” or “Hudson” there, I will refuse to believe it and so should you.
ROFL
the tricky thing is that Dorsey is represented as a stick horse. Hudson is two pine trees.
Dorsey as a stick horse?
That’s racist.
Dorsey is represented by an awesome sabertooth tiger who is shown catching a freaking eagle in mid-flight then having trouble with math.
Well, he would be. If he were on the cave. But he’s not. So this story isn’t true.
Matt Elam allover again?
Are you saying that Dorsey will go back to Floirda or are you saying Elam never committed to FSU? Either way, you’re delusional.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
"But How will I know limits from lies, if I never try."
by geoffissiffoeg on Jan 26, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
Prob. that Dorsey goes back b/c Meyer has an in-home with him today.
I imagine Gran will be showing up for dessert.
ff, I hate to break this to you, but
but Bobby is g-o-n-e.
Amato and Allen are g-o-n-e.
And “this site” was one of the first to be absolutely right about them and the need for them to be g-o-n-e.
if you live by the cheerleader board, you die by the cheerleader board.
My values: I love my wife, admire my dog, and believe very deeply that Bobby Bowden and Paula Dean were separated at birth.
If FSU thinks TN broke it or that UF didn’t know beforehand, then FSU has big problems. They might feign anger but I can’t see a logical person getting angry over a site who was number two in breaking the news. Stampini breaks all kinds of commitments, holds camps in SoFla, and is majorly tapped in to the local HS scene in SoFla. He runs a pretty big site. UF knew and Dorsey told Chris Dunkley Sunday as well, which is probably where Luke got it. Our site isn’t informing UF’s coaches of anything. Do you honestly believe Urban Meyer relies on TN for information? If UF flips him back I have to believe they would have done so without our help.
"If UF flips him back...:
Exactly. If these recruits were easily upset by fan behavior…Elam would NEVER had gone to UF. Their fans overwhelmingly and brutally attacked that kid. Some of them still don’t like him (“not a true gaator”…whatever that means).
Welcome to the Nole Demar!!!
Drake has vouched for this kid, so I am not that concerned about the rumored character issues. I hope he proves me right! I have a feeling he’s going to be just like the other gators we have snarred away—a big playmaker.
I don't like this to be honest.
Yes, he’s a great athlete for sure (nobody can deny that), but UF would not have cooled off on him if they didn’t know something was wrong (.grades, character, etc). i don’t mention “getting in trouble” as a concern for UF recruits because they always do and nobody seem to care.
I hope I’m wrong, as we can surely use him, but something doesn’t smell good on this one. As someone said, this could be Matt Elam Part Deux.
Doesn't UF have an in home with him this week?
I think they still want him if that’s the case…
Yep...
I also will “believe it when I see it” on Feb 3.
If he pulls another Elam...
…at some point…we’ll have to think this is staged by crap by Urban.
It gives UF positive exposure...
“and in the final analysis…so-and-so chooses uf over FSU…after a final visit by the evil genius Urban Meyer”. It will stink to high heaven if this happens again…this year…in the same exact way. Definitely on the “watch list”.
by PoseidoNole on Jan 26, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Reed & Reid?
Those 2 were separated by 2 whole years (‘07 and ’09 NSD’s) and neither were “double switcheroos”. So it’s a bit different…it would certainly raise a lot more eyebrows…and frankly make me wonder about the integrity of Meyer and his current class.
I was listing one time UF commits to switch to us that did NOT switch back...
So far we are 2 out of 3, no?
gotcha...
I do generally like our chances when we’re in dire need of a guy…who is also looking at UF…and it’s approaching NSD…and the gates typically already have a stable of 4 and 5 stars at that position. They can’t get EVERYBODY (thank the good Lord!). I’m still holding out hope that we finish really strong…we need it to compete against “them”.
by PoseidoNole on Jan 27, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe he just doesn't have faith and Urban couldn't save his soul?
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
"But How will I know limits from lies, if I never try."
by geoffissiffoeg on Jan 26, 2010 9:21 AM EST up reply actions
Nice if it sticks
I just can’t get excited about this yet, the Matt Elam fail has killed my enthusiasm for this kind of news. I will celebrate if we actually get this guy on signing day which thankfully is not too far off.
"No, like I said, Woo peed on my rug" - The Dude
by Surfanole on Jan 26, 2010 9:30 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Cameron Erving said there was going to be some big surprises
He mentioned some of the visitors liked FSU better than the sports writers do. I wonder what is next? Ego Ferguson?
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
I see some of the posters can't break the cycle
After years of programming it is very difficult. It is almost like some have WC tattooed on their foreheads.
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
Cycle of not wanting breaking news posted?
I agree with you on that, for sure. I LOVE TN regularly being the first major FSU site to break big news (that seems to be almost always accurate). As far as folks being skeptical about this commit “sticking”…I’ve got no issue with that!
by PoseidoNole on Jan 26, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
That video
is at the Under Armour game when he was a Gator “lock” supposedly. Also saw this article about Dorsey in the Sentinel posted just yesterday. Wake me up when it’s NSD.
Striker: "Surely you can't be serious!" Rumack: "I am serious... and don't call me Shirley."
Dorsey
If he signs then great. I am not taking much stock in any recruiting news until NSD.
by MJC88 on Jan 26, 2010 11:22 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I don't think we should "worry"
about a guy who has been committed to UF all along. I really like the “latest” info that is always available from TN…but the reality is that until it’s inked on NSD…no one who is unsigned is a lock.
This is good news if it works out.
Like a lot of people, I’m not putting too much in to this until he actually signs with us. I hope he can qualify as well.
The "other" sites...
are often behind the ball or make you pay to find out…until it’s old news.
that being said...
there’s not exactly a lot of commentary on this subject…compared to the infamous Elam flop.
by commentary...
i mean direct quotes and interviews.
and that further being said...
I don’t think anybody should put him down as anything close to a commitment…including us (just my own opinion…based on the “evidence” I’ve been able to dig up…as a non-insider). The good news is that he’s not 100% sold on UF…and that’s a good thing. They’re freaking overloaded with talent.
is there a reason
why espn or rivals has not broken this yet? im starting to question the validity of this.
I guess everybody can quit saying TN put the story up irresponsibly.
Even though they weren’t the first to announce it…
Unfortunately...
he’s still listed as a soft verbal to UF. But I guess I’m somewhat glad…it eliminates the double-reverse Elam scheme.
by PoseidoNole on Jan 27, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
its not even on nolesports
im sorry to question validity but nolesports normally has pretty solid coverage and they aren’t posting this. I saw him at the campus chilies this weekend talking with vic viloria and he seemed like he was having a good time, but until a national site says he’s a nole I’m not a believer.
by fsunole2013 on Jan 27, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
The more I look into it...
the more skeptical I get. Not in terms of it being a valid story for TN to present…but the degree of “commitment”. Dorsey very well might become a Nole…there’s just no “meat” in any of the stories I’ve found on the subject. As best I can tell…he’s still a UF lean…but taking a look at FSU and USC. I still have yet to find anything that shows him saying “I’M A NOLE”. Heck…even Elam said that…and we know how that worked out. At this point…I’d put our chances at about 50% (primarily due to him seeing opportunity for PT here…not due to any glowing comments from him).
by PoseidoNole on Jan 27, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
The most recent direct quote I can find from Dorsey himself:
“They’re still on top. They’re still my No. 1. They aren’t going anywhere,” Dorsey said. “I’d say right now they’re about 90-95 percent.”
He said this just a couple days ago…on 1/24. Anyone have something more recent? I really got nothing of substance from Stampini’s story.
by PoseidoNole on Jan 27, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
PS He was talking about UF above
And went on to further say…he was just going to check out USC and FSU “to make sure” he was making the right decision.
by PoseidoNole on Jan 27, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks FSUn
That’s by far the most decisive answer I’ve heard regarding Dorsey. I just went back to the original “story”…and didn’t see any substance (the linked site). I hoped/figured there was more to it.
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