How High Can FSU's Recruiting Class Climb?
by Bud Elliott on Jan 29, 2010 12:55 PM EST
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With all the talk about Jimbo Fisher's 1st signing class being the best FSU has had in some time, I wondered just how high it will climb. So I took a look. According to ESPN's rankings, the top classes usually have around 10 ESPNU150 players. I am using ESPN's rankings because Rivals.com only considers classes based on the top 20 players in a signing class, which doesn't measure the total quality of the class. In 2007, UF signed 14 ESPNU150 kids. USC signed 10. Texas pulled down 12. In 2008 Miami signed 12, Clemson signed 10, UF signed 11, and USC pulled 10. Last year LSU grabbed 10, while Bama, Texas, and USC hauled in 9. This year UF and Texas will each sign more than 14 ESPNU 150 players. They will have the top two classes. At best, FSU could finish 3rd. Third would be an incredible accomplishment for a team that finished the year 7-6, recruited with less than half a staff for most of the year, doesn't have the money of the other big schools, and well you get the idea. FSU will definitely finish with one of the top classes in the country. The question is just how good will that class be? By my projection, FSU will finish somewhere between 3rd and 8th. If the 'Noles somehow land all their remaining targets, they would have 13 ESPNU 150 prospects, which would be the 6th most of any class since ESPNU debuted the rankings 5 years ago. Just to give you an idea of the remaining talent on the board for the 'Noles, I put together this chart, sorted by the ESPN ranking. As you can see, there is a ton of talent left on the board. While FSU likely won't grab all of the remaining players on its wish list, they stand an excellent shot to add 3 more ESPNU 150 commitments, which would place this class squarely in the 3rd or 4th slot in this year's rankings.
| Current Commitments | Potential Commitments | ||||||||
| NAME | GRADE | RANK | SCHOOL | NOTES | NAME | GRADE | RANK | SCHOOL | NOTES |
| Lamarcus Joyner | 87 | CB #1 | Saint Thomas Aquinas School (FL) | ||||||
| Jeff Luc | 85 | ILB #1 | Treasure Coast H.S. (FL) | ||||||
| Demar Dorsey | 85 | S #2 | Boyd Anderson H.S. (FL) | ||||||
| Christian Jones | 83 | OLB #2 | Lake Howell H.S. (FL) | ||||||
| Mack Brown | 83 | RB #4 | Martin Luther King H.S. (GA) | ||||||
| Christian Green | 82 | ATH #9 | Tampa Catholic H.S. (FL) | ||||||
| Corey Lemonier | 81 | DE #9 | Hialeah H.S. (FL) | ||||||
| J.R. Ferguson | 81 | DT #14 | Hargrave Military Academy (VA) | ||||||
| Kenny Shaw | 81 | WR #14 | Dr. Phillips H.S. (FL) | ||||||
| Telvin Smith | 81 | OLB #8 | Lowndes H.S. (GA) | ||||||
| Nigel Terrell | 81 | OLB #11 | Pelham H.S. (AL) | ||||||
| Darious Cummings (DE) | 81 | DT #12 | Astronaut H.S. (FL) | ||||||
| Jeremy Deering | 80 | ATH #17 | Leto Comprehensive H.S. (FL) | ||||||
| Chad Abrams | 80 | S #13 | Kathleen H.S. (FL) | ||||||
| Bjoern Werner | 79 | DE #24 | Salisbury School (CT) | ||||||
| Calvin Smith | 79 | DT #20 | Hialeah H.S. (FL) | ||||||
| De'Joshua Johnson | 79 | WR #35 | Pahokee H.S. (FL) | ||||||
| Terrence Brooks | 79 | CB #21 | Dunnellon Senior H.S. (FL) | ||||||
| Holmes Onwukaife | 78 | DE #46 | Cedar Park H.S. (TX) | ||||||
| Jarred Haggins | 78 | ATH #46 | Lakeland H.S. (FL) | ||||||
| Will Tye | 78 | TE #19 | Salisbury School (CT) | ||||||
| Greg Dent Jr. (WR) | 77 | S #57 | Glades Central H.S. (FL) | ||||||
| Damien Jacobs | 77 | DT #62 | H. L. Bourgeois H.S. (LA) | ||||||
| Cameron Erving | 76 | DT #81 | Colquitt County H.S. (GA) | ||||||
| Clint Trickett | 75 | QB #84 | North Florida Christian H.S. (FL) | ||||||
| Tank Sessions | 74 | TE #58 | Columbia H.S. (GA) | ||||||
And that doesn't even include the JUCO players, all of whom are expected to contribute immediately. ESPN does not rate JUCO players. JUCO CB Mike Harris is a 4* on rivals and rated as the 2nd best JUCO corner available. JUCO RB Debrale Smiley and DT Anthony "Amp" McCloud were considered some of the best players in Georgia before they went to JUCO.
For info on all these players, check out the Recruiting Board!
What do you think? Who will FSU land? Where do you feel this class will end up? This should be a very exciting signing day. We hope you'll join us for full coverage.
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I think we get them all...
The G&G glasses are on now until next Wed…
"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath
I would say Jones, Green and Lemonier/Ferguson.
(Of the ESPNU150 prospects.) Not a major change, but either guy would be fine by me.
I want that kid akuna from Hawaii what’s going on with him and his offical this weekend
by caz_noles4life on Jan 29, 2010 1:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
FSUncensored ya i heard Akuna
Called the our coaches yesterday and they did not call him back and that he was still in Hawaii waiting on them I hope they would just not blow him off like that or whatever
by caz_noles4life on Jan 29, 2010 1:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I really doubt that happened
I think some sites are quite butthurt because we crushed them breaking the Dorsey commitment and because they are being blackballed by the new administration.
Perhaps Akuna called very late last night when Coley was asleep. Perhaps he called a school phone and we were out of the office. But we’re not gonna refuse to give that kid a visit if he wants one.
why do you want him?
have you seen him play or what?
i havent seen anything on him.. so i wonder why you are so high on him!!!!!!
by Mr. Seminole on Jan 30, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
This is my completely unknowlegable guess
We get:
Dorsey,
Jones,
Green,
Lemonier,
Smith,
Werner
We miss everyone else.
Pretty impressive haul if we can pull it off. Not getting Jones would hurt the most.
Anyone heard what Deering likes about Rutgers so much?
I know Schiano likes to recruit in FL, but that just seems very random to me.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 29, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Atlantic City? Wildwood?
I am sensing sarcasm in the suggestion that a kid from Florida’s gulf coast would go to Rutgers because of the Jersey beaches.
Christian Jones joins every single facebook group.
Don’t put much stock in that.
SCALP 'EM SEMINOLES!
He even joined that facebook group, "MattDNole isn't funny and statistics are for sissies."
And I honestly don’t think he has a problem with either Matt or Statistics.
we do
My high school doesn’t put out that many prospects. I’d love to see at least one become a nole.
Progress came and took its toll,
And in the name of flood control,
They made their plans and they drained the land,
Now the glades are going dry.
And the last time I walked in the swamp,
I sat upon a Cypress stump,
I listened close and I heard the ghost,
Of Osceola cry.
Still worried about Christian Jones
Just too many rumors swirling around him to suit me. Have yet to hear positive rumblings about FSU.
Maybe it's just me
but if I had 2 family members that played at FSU and I was brought up to DESPISE the Gators, there’s no way I would ever go to that school no matter how good they were. Personally, if I was good enough to get offers from the top schools I would never give UF a thought because my mother brought me up to HATE the Gates. Once again, this is just my opinion and one of the reasons I’m not all that worried about Jones.
Non Mollare, non mai mollare!
ItaliaNole A.K.A. SavvysNole
Unless you are a 5* recruit and you were thinking about hanging with the coeds two hours away instead of chumming with your buds at Lake Howell
so long as hanging with the coeds does not interfere with your basketball schedule.
In other words, I think Jones has just been enjoying the attention and love, while he has the opportunity to take those weekend getaways to hang out with the coeds in Turdtown.
Very reminiscent of Ernie Sims recruitment,
Except he did the honorable thing and kicked UF to the curb early.
Hoping for the best
but expecting the worse. Im not usually a glass half empty kinda guy, but im just not gonna get excited until the 3rd. Just going to have to wait it out and see what is in store. Thanks to all of the people that are hot on the trail and feeding us the info. This place is awsome! GO NOLES!!
by hntdeerliv4noles on Jan 29, 2010 1:22 PM EST reply actions
forgot to add
that im really impressed with the class we have thus far. As FSUu stated above with the amount of work that was put in with half the staff, we have alot to look foward too ladys and gents.
A) New era with a new staff
2) Coley…..enuff said
3) Cry baby is gone!
by hntdeerliv4noles on Jan 29, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Also, will have a story on this later, but just made the image
The 438 is a projection that we should get right around. We’re already over 400k. And today we’ll have our 2 millionth visitor.
Congratulations guys
I first came on here last January – my first post was something like “You do a hell of a job”… A year later, and it only gets better. Hats off!
First Jayron then Phillip Thomas.
I started reading in October 08 and followed the game threads by pressing the refresh button. It’s a big upgrade being a member using the Z function.
I've been on here for just under a year
This place has exploded like a chinese new year since then. It’s success speaks for itself.
Progress came and took its toll,
And in the name of flood control,
They made their plans and they drained the land,
Now the glades are going dry.
And the last time I walked in the swamp,
I sat upon a Cypress stump,
I listened close and I heard the ghost,
Of Osceola cry.
april '09
but i didn join till last week, good gawd i love this site. have 5 other noles readin it over wc now they just havn signed up yet…lol
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by metalheadnole on Jan 29, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Congrats!
Been reading the sight since nearly its beginning and have turned others onto it as well, but just joined this week. You guys are the best!
Waiting
Just wondering when you guys will start charging membership fees.(I hope not) New member 11/09. Love the site, thanks for the info…
by NoleySmokes on Jan 29, 2010 7:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
a big problem w/ all these rankings
is how to figure in guys like mccloud and smiley
they didnt play last year and were underranked as high school kids b/c of their qualification problems –
scout has them at 3 (mcc) and 4 stars while rivals gives them both 3 stars – and im pretty sure espn doesnt have them top 150
many here think these two kids easilydeserve 4, or possibly 5 stars – and could easily be the two biggest contributors next year out of this class -
but the rankings will not factor in these guys at all but we all know classes that were ranked high in nsd but turned out to be total garbage b/c many of teh top kids never made it to campus..
But are they 5* caliber players who will be here for only 2 or 3 years?
Use the enrolled rankings ;) much better
i think so, but the class rankings will not reflect this
are the ‘enrolled rankings’ more accurate?
yes they recalc the for the enrolled rankings once they see who gets into school
and rivals rated JUCO kids so it included them too
good stuff
that addresses one of the issues
but how to rank them remains highly inaccurate, no?
(i mean 3 stars for these guys, seriously?)
Of the 5 remaining ESPNU150 guys + Dorsey,
if we get 3 I’ll be satisfied
4 I’ll be stoked
5 or 6 and I’ll be dancing in the streets.
2nd that
except for dancin in the streets, its freakin cold up here in IL!
by hntdeerliv4noles on Jan 29, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
What part of Illinois?
I’m wasting away here in Zookville. Although it does give me an opportunity to go harass Foose for choosing poorly.
by TheNole9Yards on Jan 29, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
I'm no buff on recruiting, but
I’d be extremely satisfied even if we only land Jones, Lemonier, and Ferguson. I’d sacrifice everyone else for those three. I don’t care so much about ranking as I do making sure we fill our needs (cliche, yes – meh). With that said, hauling in top rankings obviously add to the “prestige” of the program and would probably aid in getting younger kids attention; however, winning will take care of that pretty easily so I would still tip the scale in going for filling the needs than rankings if I had to choose.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life...no one gets to the Father but through Me"
Nah, i'd rather sacrifice him for the others.
it would equate to running the risk of having to start a younger QB down the road, am I correct on that?
Much rather have that then not be able to apply pressure, or stop the run.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life...no one gets to the Father but through Me"
Then definitely sacrifice.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life...no one gets to the Father but through Me"
I probably do place less value on his potential; however
What good would it be to add extra productivity to what I think will be awesome offenses in future years when you can add productivity to the defese, where the increased productivity there could have more impact on the overall result.
That may not have made sense so I’ll go a little further into my thought process:
assuming we have a highly productive offense for years to come
Obviously increasing productivity, say, 10% is the same whether its from 10% to 20% or 80% to 90%; but, since a team’s overal productivity (and players who are the units of productivity) is divided between the offense and defense (and special teams) I bet there are circumstances where you could have reached your optimal offensive productivity and need to add to the defensive in order to gain an overal better outcome. The most efficient allocation of resources.
You’re probably a lot smarter than me, so I’m not posting this like I’m trying to educate you, but I did want your input on that.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life...no one gets to the Father but through Me"
I see what you're saying.
But Green has program connections. It’s a PR hit (and negative recruiting fodder) when you lose one of those guys.
Will we be screwed if we don’t get Corey Lemonier? Probably. But we’ll work like crazy to replace him next year.
Will our rivals have a field day on the recruiting trail if we can’t lock down a relative of one of the top receivers in our program’s history who just might be the next game changing wide out? Definitely.
I don't think we'd be screwed then, either.
And I definitely don’t think we’re screwed if we miss on Lemonier. Obviously I’d like to land Lemonier and legacies like Jones and Green, though.
Didn't land a couple legacy recruits
Hester to USF and Sanders to USCe … both dads played for FSU - how hard we recruited either, I don’t know … but CAN NOT LOSE the ones we are after NOW
by Cigar City Nole on Jan 30, 2010 1:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
If you could only pick one FSUu
Green or lemonier?
by hntdeerliv4noles on Jan 29, 2010 1:36 PM EST reply actions
If i had a choice
Off the top of my head it would be Lemonier cause we are just so weak on the D front, but then Green is just a freak of nature. Your right tuff spot to be in.
by hntdeerliv4noles on Jan 29, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Green
We need to save face by brining in a legacy and with the described talent on the DL for next year, we should be able to replace Lemonier.
Green
I know there is an immediate need at DE but Green is a sick talent.
by SeminoleGrad'08 on Jan 29, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Newbie here, first post.............
There are a lot of rumors about Jones, but if he comes to FSU tonight and Sat. unofficially, are folks really that worried? Hicks goes to UT, but is Willie Sr. really that upset w/ FSU? I’m sure the Gates will try anything, but I just wonder if they can sell him?
Grew up on Bayou Blvd.............
Now live off of Summit………….Long way, I know.
Well howdy neighbor...I'm off of 9th ave
Imagine that..People in PCola living close to one another. Whoda thunkit.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 29, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
I coulda sworn you
lived in TK’s house in Tally?…..jk
"You play to WIN the GAME"
I live off spanish
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Jan 29, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
He can't come tonight
7pm basketball game + 3-4 hour ride. Would put him in well after midnight! Hopefully he gets in tomorrow.
what does the "worst case scenario" look like?
i’d rather get my mind locked onto that and be pleasantly surprised on wednesday.
Terrance Mitchell switching to USF?
Has anyone here heard about this? Man, I hope this is not true. I am not trying to start something, but I just got an email about it.
His HS coach will be having a heart to heart with him after school today
Whatever that means
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
Is that another way of saying
“I want you to go to USF and I’m going to try and pressure you into it!”?
Non Mollare, non mai mollare!
ItaliaNole A.K.A. SavvysNole
The one who is wetting himself on his message board about how happy he is that T-Rex is going to USF?
That coach?
Yes that coach
According to him it is totally Terrance’s decision though
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
Maybe we send Coley and Stoops to talk to him about making the league and who is best suited to send him there.
I’m sure Stoops would have a lot to say. At FSU he could be known as part of the bet D-backfield in the country in a couple of years, along with Joyner & Dorsey.
Well we are going backwards with the ESPN 150 count.
Hopefully, only good news from now on.
Recruiting related
Recruiting is definitely a dirty game. Here’s another example. Have you all seen this:
http://blog.gamecockcentral.com/2010/01/only-recruiting-rule-that-truly-matters.html
As much as I’d like to hate Meyer for using religion to get a kid to commit, you have to at least respect Meyer’s ruthlessness to win at all costs.
I’m going to laugh at these kids when Meyer isn’t on the sideline next fall.
by FtLauderdaleNole on Jan 29, 2010 2:01 PM EST reply actions
Does anyone REALLY believe this BS rumor?
Yeah, Urbie is a turd, but come on … as great as the Internet is in terms if getting info out quickly, it sure as hell spreads bad rumors just as fast
by Cigar City Nole on Jan 30, 2010 1:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hell yeah I believe it
and I believe it happened around the same time as Elam’s famous “faith” phone call.
It's been disputed already from Floyd himself.
But desperate people will believe what they want to believe.
by PullingGuardGator on Feb 1, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Why no mention of Vincent Sanders?
He’s visiting this weekend. Any thoughts on this kid. Do we have room for him?
If we lose T-Rex, then you could move Dent back to DB and use the WR spot for Sanders.
But I doubt he leaves Mississippi
I really want Shaw, Green, and DJJ
Dent would be a solid WR too. Haggins just becomes gravy. I’d take Sanders over at least Haggins.
I honestly havent watched Sanders play.
I am doing strictly a Jeff Bowden talent assessment on him. 4 stars > 3 stars.
He may be better than the other two, but I usually give the benefit of the doubt to Florida recruits
The thing is
we don’t graduate any wideouts. Assume we lose Wade. Next year we’re returning 13 or 14 wideouts? That’s a huge number. We’d only have room for 1 or 2
lol
id say bert would have a shot at linebacker or de if chest mcgoo was still here due to his speed.
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by metalheadnole on Jan 29, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Could this be ESPN's best defensive class of the last 5 years?
We currently have 7 ESPN150 commits on defense. We have a shot at 3 more. Has any recruiting class in the last decade had 10 ESPN150-caliber players on defense?
I say top ten
but don’t crack 7. I say number 9. Lose a guy we think is ours (Mitchell? WTF? Maybe another guy) Pick up a player we haven’t heard or think we have less of a shot with (Smith). It evens out and keeps our class about were it is or jumps a spot or two.
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
I don't understand Mitchell..............
I know he liked USF, but he seemed solid………….
This one hurts, no 2 ways about it.
Can't Jimbo pull an Urban?
I thought one of the Saban principles of recruiting was to keep the guys who commit to you and not let them wander.
Is that not true?
I think if they cant make up their mind this eairly in the game
let em go. Jimbo seems set on preparing for the future, with or without
by hntdeerliv4noles on Jan 29, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
i understand methinx
between reid, joiner, and who knows what other corners we pick up next year kid might be mired on special teams. as bad as our pass defense was, he might want somewhere to play at the same time. plus he’s definitely not playin soon with reid, joyner, +juco kid, thatmeans no nickle package either
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Here is one for next year
2011 Port St. Lucie DB’s Lamarcus Brutus and Keelin Smith (Treasure Coast H.S.) commit to FSU!
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
The point is not where to start, but where you end up.
Stoops puts DBs in the league. No doubt about it.
If we load up on talent, I envision Stoops rotating fresh guys in.
Rivals has officially moved Mitchell to USF.
Pretty good considering AZ talent being what it is
Here is Stoops’s bio
Lists guys like Antrel Rolle, safety Michael Johnson, corner Wilrey Fontenot (2* out of HS), cornerback Antoine Cason
I was aware of the guys from the U and Cason
But wasn’t too familiar with any others. Ahhh, nice resume/bio in coaching DB’s.
Question for Recruiting Experts
Are we still recruiting Scardino Daniels, JUCO DLine Prospect? I thought he was on our radar.
xactly
that’s why i dont even blame the kid for mayhaps headin back home to play for usf. and how bad is this really going to hurt us depth wise, so many corner’s we’re crankin, i say wish him good luck over at usf where he’ll probably be starting by a sophomore instead.
fsu is still probably his number one choice, but not necessarily whats best for him at this point imo.
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I agree he would have a better shot at starting on an inferior team...
but let him come to FSU if he wants to battle for the position with some of the top atheletes in the state.
I can definitely see that line of thinking...
But wasn’t he like the #5 CB in FL? I know that Joyner/Reid are extremely talented, but I can’t imagine there being that large of a gap between Mitchell and the others. The kid is an incredible athlete, and it’s obvious that nobody is guaranteed a starting job, so I wouldve given him just a strong a chance to start/get meaningful minutes as any of those other guys.
I hope he thinks twice about it…This sucks.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jan 29, 2010 2:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Is Green a lock??
With him on a visit this weekend do we land him or is UGA that much of a threat?
by SeminoleGrad'08 on Jan 29, 2010 3:43 PM EST reply actions
Would someone email me?
To confirm or deny 2 rumors?
I realize I am new, but I won’t abuse the privledge, and I want to find out if they have any legs without stirring the pot. thorntonlr@yahoo.com
There are links at the bottom of the page to email some of the editors.
I’d start with FSUncensored and maybe FSUSOM if they are recruiting-related.
This
FSU always closes great. And no offense to Oregon State, but we put LBs in the league. Derrick Brooks, Ernie Simms, Lawerence Timmons, etc. And how could would it be to be a kid from Hawaii that says FSU came halfway around the world just for me. I think Akuna comes. Its time for us to have a Hawaiian anyways. Jones, Green, and Lemonier are pretty solid in my eyes, and I think Smith will come with his teammate. If we dont get them it will hurt, which is why I think some of you guys are going in with low expectations, but FSU is still FSU. I know we have sucked, but it is still FSU. And with the coaches we have, they are reminding players that.
I like your optimism...
but it’s a new era for FSU with a new staff. More often than not…schools close great when they’re on top and they have coaching stability. I’m still somewhat cautious about how we’ll close this year. I think we’ll have a better sense of things going into NSD ’11….IF we do well this fall.
From what I recall there have only been 2 Hawaiian kids to go east of the Mississippi outside the Military acadamies
Ill play the percentages and say he stays out West
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
Bringing in Smiley is not the way to recruit a Mack Brown
There will be other big name tailbacks next year. About one big name back is all you are going to get in one year most of the time. Although FSU is a good situation for backs as Fisher plays them all.
I would like to see them bring in Mack Brown if possible however. Along with Akuna, Smith, Ferguson, Werner, Lemonier et all. Give me some 300 pound tackles. They are hard to find.
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
Smiley was a done deal before all the Mack Brown talk happened
Don’t we already have a RB committ for 2011?
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
Akuna
I thought he wasn’t comming for a visit, whats the chances of landing him without a visit?
is anyone giving us a decent shot with him?
this would be one of the most surprising pickups in a long time.
Rivals
He’s not listed as comming here on rivals.
7th
is my prediction. Which is very, very good. Too bad a certain other scummy school is landing a class for the ages. Arghhhh!
well...
Trick…the ratings are relative to one another. And UF will always be the benchmark…every year. Regardless of how far behind or ahead we get.
I have to disagree with that
Bama and UF are in the same echelon and Bama had 10-11 down years before Saban arrived.
But I don't get why you're so obsessed with them RIGHT NOW.
We are clearly not on their level. We are clearly not even at a “good” level. Why not let us get back to consistently being ranked and winning the ACC a few times before trying to compare every little thing to them?
Programs who want to become ELITE (again)...
set bold goals…focus on NC’s…even if it looks like a distant hope. I asure you that Nike Saban did not arrive at Bama focused on just being an upper tier SEC team…and hopefull division champ. He came in hellbent on being The Best. I believe that’s what our staff wants too. UF is our standard of excellence now…like it or not. Til we start beating them…it won’t feel good. If we just focus on being the next GT…we’re setting our sights too low for this once proud program.
I guess this should go on the recruiting board but
Do we have an idea of other people that are targets that are under the radar. Also I thought we are going to be going to over sign this year, so we could land some of these kids that are left and still pick up more. I understand that the D-line and LB are the under STR areas right now but Im not going to stress that because I have trust in Jimbo. Im sure he will get us some JuCo onto of the ones we are looking at to fill for a year or 2.
I still want to see where the Def will go. I look at what we have and I could see FSU going to a more 3-4. Wow no way but I think we might be going there. (dont know if we have talked about this but) We wouldnt run a true 3-4 it will still look like a 4-3. We are small in the D-Line area right or are we. If we run a 4-3 yes but a 3-4 no. This is what I want to see as my line next year.
first is starter second is backup. Also this backup is fresh legs so I see I getting more people in on Def thank the same 7 in the box.
NT: Amp / McCray / McDaniel
SDE: McAllister / Dawkins / White
WDE: Jenkins / Johnson / Jackson
S OLB: K Smith / Stevens (DE) / Terrell (FR)
W OLB: Carr / Alexander / Smith (FR) /
MLB: Bradham / the other LB
SLB: Luc / Williams / the other LB
WFT are you thinking Des. I know seems crazy but I can see it. This would get us some size we need and still keep the speed. Also this is not looking at some of the other DE and LB coming in that could se playing time like Jones, Lemonier, Ferguson, Cummings, Werner, and the rest. Anyhow In the 3-4 I see its more like a 5-2. Our OLB are faster lighter DE that can play off the line, drop back in a zone or man up on the TE or maybe a Slot WR. The MLB’s are the big guys and take the RB’s and QB’s, drop in zone or blitz. The DE and DT are all the same for the most part. The NT is the big guy but the DE are also big so its almost like having 3DT. On teams like GT we dont have to stop the pass as much so we run a bigger group but BYU or UF we thin it out and get the speed in the field.
The line up I have above is not the most ideal because I dont know how fast some are or there true size I only have what ESPN and rivles says there weight is so I dont know.
So in truth
NT: BIG UGLY this guys is the OX 300LB+
DE: smaller DT and bigger DE Good size good speed 260-280LB
S OLB: More like a real OLB/DE Bigger but some speed 230-245lb
W OLB: This is the trick one of if not the fastest LB or the best coverage LB. dont get me wrong he needs to hit too
MLB the leader Smart, big and fast. Bradham is my guy
WLB: This is the next in line. Big and powerful. This guy will learn the ways of the Def and take over in 2 years moving to MLB.
God bless, thats long and prob didnt need to go in the thread but this is just my idea. Prob wouldnt work but just a thought.
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