My Mid-Season All-ACC Team: Youth Of Florida State Dominating The Conference
by Bud Elliott on Oct 20, 2010 9:00 AM EDT
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PrintYesterday Phil Steele released his Mid-Season All-ACC team. It gave me an idea to debut mine. I considered only ACC games for this, as the non-conference schedules of the twelve teams can vary quite a bit.
| 1st Team | 2nd Team | 3rd Team | |
|---|---|---|---|
| QB | Tyrod Taylor, Virginia Tech | TJ Yates, North Carolina | Russell Wilson, NC State |
| RB | Anthony Allen, Georgia Tech | Damien Berry, Miami | Jermaine Thomas, Florida St |
| RB | Montel Harris, Boston College | Johnny White, North Carolina | Josh Harris, Wake Forest |
| WR | Owen Spencer, NC State | Donovan Varner, Duke | Jarvis Williams, NC State |
| WR | Leonard Hankerson, Miami | Jarrett Boykin, Virginia Tech | Kris Burd, Virginia |
| WR | Conner Vernon, Duke | Torrey Smith, Maryland | Chris Givens, Wake Forest |
| TE | Zack Pianalto, North Carolina | Dwayne Allen, Clemson | George Bryan, NC State |
| C | Ryan McMahon, Florida St | Sean Bedford, Georgia Tech | Beau Warren, Virginia Tech |
| OG | Rodney Hudson, Florida St | Omoregie Uzzi, Georgia Tech | Jaymes Brooks, Virginia Tech |
| OG | Antoine McClain, Clemson | Austin Pasztor, Virginia | Jonathan Cooper, North Carolina |
| OT | Anthony Castonzo, Boston College | Chris Hairston, Clemson | Kyle Hill, Duke |
| OT | Blake DeChristopher, Virginia Tech | Zebrie Sanders, Florida St | Orlando Franklin, Miami |
| KR | Greg Reid, Florida St | David Wilson, Virginia Tech | David Wilson, Virginia Tech |
| PR | Tony Logan, Maryland | Greg Reid, Florida St | Jayron Hosley, Virginia Tech |
| DE | Brandon Jenkins, Florida St | Allen Bailey, Miami | Kyle Wilber, Wake Forest |
| DT | Quinton Coples, North Carolina | Everett Dawkins, Florida St | Jarvis Jenkins, Clemson |
| DT | Joe Vellano, Maryland | John Graves, Virginia Tech | Marcus Forston , Miami |
| DE | Da’Quan Bowers, Clemson | Steven Friday, Virginia Tech | Olivier Vernon, Miami |
| LB | Luke Kuechly, Boston College | Kendall Smith, Florida St | Mister Alexander, Florida St |
| LB | Sean Spence, Miami | Bruce Taylor, Virginia Tech | Brad Jefferson, Georgia Tech |
| LB | Alex Wujciak, Maryland | Nigel Bradham, Florida St | Quan Sturdivant, North Carolina |
| LB | Nate Irving, NC State | Adrian Moten, Maryland | Steven Sylvester, Georgia Tech |
| CB | Jayron Hosley, Virginia Tech | Greg Reid, Florida St | Marcus Gilchrist, Clemson |
| CB | Brandon Harris, Miami | Xavier Rhodes, Florida St | Chase Minnifield, Virginia |
| S | Ray-Ray Armstrong, Miami | Kenny Tate, Maryland | Brandan Bishop, NC State |
| S | DeAndre McDaniel, Clemson | Terrance Parks, Florida St | Jerrard Tarrant, Georgia Tech |
| K | Dustin Hopkins, Florida St. | Scott Blair, Georgia Tech | Will Snyderwine, Duke |
| P | Matt Bosher, Miami | Dawson Zimmerman, Clemson | Ryan Quigley, Boston College |
Mine is quite a bit different from Steele's. Here is the team by team breakdown. Some players appear multiple times, like FSU's Greg Reid, who earns recognition at corner and both kick return spots.
Florida State 15 (5, 8, 2)
Virginia Tech 12 (3, 5, 4)
Miami 10 (5, 2, 3)
Clemson 8 (3, 3, 2)
Georgia Tech 7 (1, 3, 3)
NC State 6 (2, 0, 4)
North Carolina 6 (2, 2, 2)
Maryland 6 (3, 3, 0)
Boston College 4 (3, 0, 1)
Duke 4 (1, 1, 2)
Wake Forest 3 (0, 0, 3)
Virginia 3 (0, 1, 2)
Is it wrong that Florida State and Virginia Tech make up a third of the spots? I don't believe so. The 'Noles and Hokies have been dominating the conference this year. Here is a look at how each team has faired in conference this far:
| Team | Gained | Allowed | % |
|---|---|---|---|
| FSU | 6.1 | 4.4 | 39% |
| UNC | 6 | 5.2 | 15% |
| MD | 4.8 | 4.3 | 12% |
| VT | 6.6 | 6 | 10% |
| Miami | 5.2 | 4.9 | 6% |
| NCST | 5.9 | 5.7 | 4% |
| GT | 6 | 5.8 | 3% |
| Duke | 5 | 5.7 | -12% |
| Clem | 4.1 | 4.7 | -13% |
| UVA | 5.1 | 5.9 | -14% |
| BC | 4.4 | 5.1 | -14% |
| Wake | 5.3 | 6.2 | -15% |
- UNC should probably have more players on the list considering it has played Georgia Tech and Clemson so far, but I cannot figure out who those players should be.
- Maryland has played Duke and Clemson, so its numbers will drop when it faces at BC, WF, at UM, at UVA, FSU, and NC State.
- Florida State is just destroying the entire league. It's not even close. Further, only 4 of those 13 players appearing for Florida State are seniors. The rest of the ACC might as well take the year off in 2011, particularly with FSU finally drawing Duke and Virginia in the same year, and the Canes at home.
Inside, take a look at a special breakdown.
I took the liberty to show what I was talking about above with respect to the youth on some of these teams. The seniors have been crossed out and you can see that FSU is only responsible for four of the 33 crossed-out slots.
| 1st Team | 2nd Team | 3rd Team | |
|---|---|---|---|
| QB | |||
| RB | Jermaine Thomas, Florida St | ||
| RB | Montel Harris, Boston College | Josh Harris, Wake Forest | |
| WR | Donovan Varner, Duke | ||
| WR | Jarrett Boykin, Virginia Tech | Kris Burd, Virginia | |
| WR | Conner Vernon, Duke | Torrey Smith, Maryland | Chris Givens, Wake Forest |
| TE | Dwayne Allen, Clemson | George Bryan, NC State | |
| C | |||
| OG | Omoregie Uzzi, Georgia Tech | Jaymes Brooks, Virginia Tech | |
| OG | Antoine McClain, Clemson | Austin Pasztor, Virginia | Jonathan Cooper, North Carolina |
| OT | Kyle Hill, Duke | ||
| OT | Blake DeChristopher, Virginia Tech | Zebrie Sanders, Florida St | |
| KR | Greg Reid, Florida St | David Wilson, Virginia Tech | David Wilson, Virginia Tech |
| PR | Tony Logan, Maryland | Greg Reid, Florida St | Jayron Hosley, Virginia Tech |
| DE | Brandon Jenkins, Florida St | ||
| DT | Quinton Coples, North Carolina | Everett Dawkins, Florida St | |
| DT | Joe Vellano, Maryland | Marcus Forston, Miami | |
| DE | Da’Quan Bowers, Clemson# | Olivier Vernon, Miami | |
| LB | Luke Kuechly, Boston College | ||
| LB | Sean Spence, Miami | Bruce Taylor, Virginia Tech | |
| LB | Nigel Bradham, Florida St | ||
| LB | Steven Sylvester, Georgia Tech | ||
| CB | Jayron Hosley, Virginia Tech | Greg Reid, Florida St | |
| CB | Brandon Harris, Miami# | Xavier Rhodes, Florida St | Chase Minnifield, Virginia |
| S | Ray-Ray Armstrong, Miami | Kenny Tate, Maryland | Brandan Bishop, NC State |
| S | Terrance Parks, Florida St | Jerrard Tarrant, Georgia Tech | |
| K | Dustin Hopkins, Florida St. | Will Snyderwine, Duke | |
| P | Dawson Zimmerman, Clemson | Ryan Quigley, Boston College |
Miami's Brandon Harris and Clemson's Da'Quan Bowers are also likely to leave early for the professional ranks, particularly Bowers. I have placed a # by their names.
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Leonard Hankerson
FEAR THE SPEAR!!!!!!!!!
"Winning when playing poorly is the kiss of the death." - Nick Saban
Marcus Forston needs a Miami tag on the first table
Did you ever even play the game? I guarantee I can coach my Little League team to beat yours 10 times out of 10.
by Caveman Mafia on Oct 20, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks guys.
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by onebarrelrum on Oct 20, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Interesting list
I like how you take time to explain some of your selections. Was the primary focus on tangible statistics or overall level of play?
Did you ever even play the game? I guarantee I can coach my Little League team to beat yours 10 times out of 10.
Steele's most glaring omission is
Dustin Hopkins. Not even a third teamer!? Please.
by phinole on Oct 20, 2010 9:26 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
No Chris Thompson?
Leads the ACC in y/c, more yards than Payne. Should have at least been a third teamer
by paperjames on Oct 20, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
How can you put Thompson on when he's not even our starting back though?
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Steele's got to sell mags, hence the diversity of names
…Even though it might not really be so.
He’s not going to sell many mags in the rest of the ACC by pointing out that FSU is flat-out destroying the conference with sophomores and Juniors and the other teams’ vaunted defenses are not producing numbers worthy of mention.
“It’s all subjective” is the standard answer, but if performance was the only measure, you’d see a lot more FSU players and a lot fewer of the underachievers. But Steele wants his magazine to be bought in the Mid-Atlantic, so he’s got to pepper a few Wake Maryland and UVA names in there to keep him on the shelves there.
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I think those guys deserve to be there
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Josh Harris does, not Chris
8.19 to 7.4
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Ah, gotcha
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Maybe he's just looking at stats
and not adjusting for weak OOC games.
I know that process is the focus, but I would really LOVE to see some results against UM and UF.
David Wilson
So nice you listed him twice as a kick returner.
Hopefully Mister gets that extra
year of eligibility, has an even better year and helps his draft options. Also hope Bradham chooses to hang around for the same reason. Have a great year with all the improved coaching, get paid big.
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yeah, Jimbo said they will try to get Alexander year another year of injury
"…You can't get enough Lonnie Pryors on your football team." -Eddie Gran
Fisher sounded like he thinks it will happen.
I have to believe that he knows a lot more about the process then any of us.
I know that process is the focus, but I would really LOVE to see some results against UM and UF.
Wow, this article is particularly positive coming from you Bud
Are you sure you’re not missing something? :)
Shawn Powell
How has he performed comparatively speaking to the rest of the ACC? I dont know the best place to go look for punting stats but to the eye it seems like he kicks the crap out of the ball almost every time.
Comes down to lack of touches
"…You can't get enough Lonnie Pryors on your football team." -Eddie Gran
And that's a great problem to have :D
I know that process is the focus, but I would really LOVE to see some results against UM and UF.
Only two suprises for me...
Jenkins over Bailey at DE and Powell not even getting on the list. Other than that I like it.
Bailey was more effective at the 3 last year than SDE this year
and Jenkins has been more consistent IMO
by westcoastnolefan on Oct 20, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Jenkins leads the team that leads the nation in sacks.
Why would he not be 1st team ACC?
by DoubleNickel on Oct 20, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Hard to believe
that there are 3 punters in the ACC better than Powell, but maybe the stats bear that out.
He really has not punted much
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 20, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
does that mean he's not one of te three best?
or just too small of a sample to say for sure?
It's not a ranking of who is the best player at each position
It’s who has performed the best thus far
>>---l>
Can't say that it's all stats based with this small a sample size
I believe Bud was simply emulating how an all-conference team is chosen at the end of the season. It isn’t picking who you think the best player is at each position and ranking them. It’s who played the best during the season.
>>---l>
The latter
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 20, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
"The rest of the ACC might as well take the year off in 2011"
LOL! Hyperbole much?
I expect FSU to win division by a full two games
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 20, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Undoubtedly things are looking promising.
But a lot can happen between now and then. I’m a bit hesitant to crown us ACC champs in 2011 when we’re not even halfway through 2010 yet.
Pray that FSU’s 2011 injury chart doesn’t look like UF’s this year.
Sounds like Bud is saying the division is pretty well a lock right now in 2011
But ACC champs is another animal altogether… can’t imagine ever being more than a 60-70% chance to win the ACCCG when we’ll have to play the best of VT, UM, etc. in a single neutral-field site game
Not by much
Clemson will lose their best defender and their QB. Miami will probably lose at least their best 2 defenders and maybe their best WR. Va Tech will be breaking in a new QB and UNC will be gutted by graduation and suspensions.
by osceolafan2.0 on Oct 20, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
FSU's ACC games next year
Homes
Miami (Miami will be worse, FSU better)
Maryland
NC State (state will be very good even w/o Wilson)
Virginia (will be better)
Away
Duke
Wake
Boston College- loses 11 senior starters
WR 3 Ifeanyi Momah (6-6, 240, Sr.)
LT 74 Anthony Castonzo (6-7, 308, Sr.)
RG 78 Thomas Claiborne (6-3, 332, Sr.)
RT 66 Rich Lapham (6-8, 323, Sr.)
FB 36 James McCluskey (6-2, 252, Sr.)
DE 98 Alex Albright (6-5, 251, Sr.)
DT 55 Damik Scafe (6-3, 309, Sr.)
DE 47 Brad Newman (6-2, 257, Sr.)
SLB 94 Mark Herzlich (6-4, 244, Sr.) backup 53 Mike Morrissey (6-2, 225, Sr.)
FS 45 Wes Davis (6-1, 217, Sr.)
BC 9 DeLeon Gause (5-11, 184, Sr.) backup 25 Chris Fox (5-11, 198, Sr.)
Clemson touch game, they will have a stout defense again and a better offense probably.
But I still see 7-1 or 8-0 in conference and the next best team will probably be 5-3 or 6-2
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 20, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Meanwhile, CU loses only 7 starters
LT 61 CHRIS HAIRSTON 6-7 325 *Sr.
DE 93 Da’QUAN BOWERS 6-4 275 Jr.
Semi-starter NG 89 MIGUEL CHAVIS 6-5 285 Sr.
DT 99 JARVIS JENKINS 6-4 315 Sr.
CB 12 MARCUS GILCHRIST 5-11 190 Sr.
SS 2 DeANDRE McDANIEL 6-1 215 Sr.
CB 36 BYRON MAXWELL 6-1 205 *Sr.
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 20, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
NC State loses
LT 70 Jake Vermiglio 6-5 325 Sr.
QB 16 Russell Wilson 5-11 201 *Jr.
WR 5 Jarvis Williams 6-4 219 *Sr. backup 15 Darrell Davis 6-4 211 *Sr.
WR 13 Owen Spencer 6-3 185 Sr.
Backup 94 Michael Lemon 6-4 274 *Sr.
DT 90 Natanu Mageo 6-3 285 Sr.
DE 97 David Akinniyi 6-4 262 *Sr. backup 11 Audi Augustin 6-2 256 *Sr.
MLB 56 Nate Irving 6-1 231 *Sr.
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 20, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
FSU loses
QB 7 Christian Ponder 6-3 222 Sr.
LG 62 Rodney Hudson 6-2 288 Sr.
C 60 Ryan McMahon 6-1 285 Sr.
LE 98 Markus White 6-4 265 Sr.
SLB 16 Mister Alexander 6-3 237 Sr. (though maybe medical redshirt 6th year)
MLB 29 Kendall Smith 6-0 242 Sr.
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 20, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
why isnt kyle parker listed as a lost starter for clemson?
WAR PAINT OF TN
by Zach_Nole on Oct 20, 2010 12:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Forgot
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 20, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait
Doesn’t Kyle Parker essentially HAVE to leave after this year per his contract?
Gimme some sugar, baby.
by Tubby Sweetbundle on Oct 20, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
NM
answered above
Gimme some sugar, baby.
by Tubby Sweetbundle on Oct 20, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Why do you think CLemson will be better on O?
They have trouble developing WRs every year, have poor playcalling and will be breaking in a new QB. I think their offensive problems are institutional like LSU’s and won’t be fixed without coaching turnover.
by osceolafan2.0 on Oct 20, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Oline stays together
backs and young wideouts they are now developing a year older.
They lost Ford and Palmer and that is hurting them.
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 20, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Russell Wilson is giving you the finger lol
Reports are that Boyd is coming along really slowly.
by osceolafan2.0 on Oct 20, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Regrettably, someone I think should be on at least the 3rd team is UM's Vaughn Telemaque.
This kid is only a sophomore, but he is someone to watch.
And I say regrettably not towards Bud’s list, but because he is a scUMer.
>-----:----:------>Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
a hurt Ponder?
unfortunately yes. I love Ponder, but he has not played particularly well since the OU game, he was just getting back to 100% and now he is injured again?
Agreed with that.
FSU’s success to this point has largely been due to the defense that has greatly exceeded expectations, and the rushing attack developing pretty well. Ponder’s been more of a game manager (and nearly cost us the game against BC).
Without the injuries, Ponder would possibly be having a better year (and maybe with more trust worthy receivers, and an o-line that didn’t get its act together until fairly recently). But Ponder is simply having the season he’s having.
by SeminoleSkins87 on Oct 20, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Nah I wouldn't......
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"Winning when playing poorly is the kiss of the death." - Nick Saban
You could argue that Ponder has helped his team to the best record in the ACC.
He’s managing the game vs having off the chart individual stats.
Thats like arguing Greg McElroy was one of the be QB's in the nation last year because he played for Alabama
While he was good, he wasn’t near the top of the list. Same with Ponder this year. He has been a great general, but that doesn’t win awards as much as it does games.
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by freshcollegeboy on Oct 20, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
hmmm...
Pretty sure I would take McElroy’s 2009 season (all inclusive) over any of the 3 on this list.
in other words, if your best argument against what I said is
to point to a MNC winning QB… I’ll take it.
I thought his point is that he didn't win it. His team did. He just gets credit for not f'ing it up.
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McAllister
He has him as a third teamer? Is he having a better season than Jacobi??? I thought jacobi was playing good so far.
Demonte has stats
But our backup 3-tech should not make the list.
Jacobbi is good but not all-conference good
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 20, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
cfbstats.com
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 20, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Saw that Jenkins has 11.5 TFL's in addition to the 7 sacks
Kid has really blown up this year
by westcoastnolefan on Oct 20, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Are they included
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 20, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of him
I know everyone says Bowers is a lock for DPOY, however in the Clemson/FSU game, if Jenkins has more sacks and has more of an impact any way he could possibly get the award???
Still four more conference games to go so anything could still happen
Have to see what the complete body of work for both pIayers at the end of the year. I will say that Bowers has made himself a lot of money with his play this year
by westcoastnolefan on Oct 20, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt it.
He may earn but I don’t think it will happen. Unless he goes on a more monsterous tear the rest of the season.
Hopkins versus Scott Blair
What argument is there for Hopkins over Blair? Blair has higher percentage and averages 37 yards per make. Hopkins only averages 34 yards per made attempt. Neither have missed a PAT.
I write stuff From the Rumble Seat.
Hopkins 44% touchbacks
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 20, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
His kick-offs are simply spectacular.
Even when they do not result in touchbacks, they are usually kicked high and deep. Glad we have him for 2 more years.
Easily leads the league in average returned as well
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 20, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
They don't call it a touchback anymore
they renamed it the Hopkins
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by SteadfastNole on Oct 20, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
He pimps those gold shoes.
And Ochocinco wants a pair.
White
I think markus is having a solid season. All conference? Probably not but he still having a good year. You guys think he makes it in the league?
He is definitely having a nice year
He could go NFL late round but they will scrutinize his knee
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 20, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Lacks upper body strength
He is one of a few players that got short changed by not getting Viloria in here sooner. In the upper body, he looked like a WR last year.
He’s still mighty lean, if not thin even, in my book.
Maybe that provides for more upside for the No Fun League though?
No love for Marcus
He’s been playing great imo.
Also Terrance Parks
To me, has been getting better every single week. Miami was a leap forward and I think Boston College was probably his best. Our safeties have actually outperformed what I thought they were. They are not as huge a weak link as I thought in the beginning of the season.
They keep improving
Will be really tested against NC State
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 20, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree
But man they blanketed Miami. Yes the corners covered well, but that is a given with the talent we have there. But the safeties had a maybe a few bad plays. There was nowhere to go with the ball.
Miami dreams of having the passing scheme and QB NC State has
It is fairly complex, this will be the biggest test of the year for the linebackers and secondary since OU. We won’t face another passing attack this good the rest of the season. Hopefully we can be ECU next week, but NC State was very flat that game and they will be ready for us come Thursday. I’m sure they’re drawing up a few new wrinkles too.
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by freshcollegeboy on Oct 20, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, we don't need O'Brien going to Miami!
This guy can coach. Recruit? Not so much. But he’s solid on the white board!
O'Brien would be a beast in Miami
O’Brien could take the same players Shannon has and rule the ACC. And if he got an assistant coach like Coley? We’d be hard-pressed to compete. Thank God UM has RS locked down for 4 more years and can’t afford anyone better than him!
Shannon’s had it easy: he’s in the middle of the largest talent hotbed in the nation. He doesn’t really need to travel to build an awesome team. RS has roughly zero recruiting ability and recruiting by osmosis right now, yet Miami’s still been pretty good through his 5 seasons.
Recruiting in Miami is like the Soviet Union: in Miami, the players recruit you! Unfortunately for RS, he was tried and found wanting as a coach on October 9th and the players took note. Jimbo’s running a five-star program at FSU, while RS is running a sandlot team in the backyard.
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Have been impressed with Parks lately too
But don’t put too much stock in his performance against BC. You and I could cover their receivers pretty well.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 20, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Spurlock
Just read his will be out for a while with his second concussion in two months. Too bad. Hope he recovers with no ill effects
Yeah Fisher said it in the presser
I bet he is done for the year
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 20, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
You think for the rest of the season?
Man, I heard he would be out ‘awhile’ and was hoping that meant until the UF-ACCCG-Bowl game stretch. But with the big push on concussions lately I would completely understand if they hold him out all season. I would really hate for the guy to get a 3rd this season – that could end his career and cause serious long-term damage.
Yes I think he is done for the year
Concussions ruin people for life. These NFL guys are dead at 60. Make sure he is fully healed.
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I'm afraid he won't play next year either
Seems like once you get the concussions, you get them easier each time.
Agreed
I guy that was an amazing hockey player at my school (now in the NHL) seemed like he would get a concussion on a monthly basis. I was actually surprised to see him thriving in the league because of the amount of concussions he had in his Sophomore year alone.
I hope not
Just got back from the ER – my son tripped, fell, and knocked himself out. Kid turned 1 just 2-3 weeks ago and has his first concussion…. ug
maybe you should take better care of your son then
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by SteadfastNole on Oct 20, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
That they do. My wife has had two and she can't smell much anymore.
So I hope they do the right thing by Spurlock and let him rest as long as he needs to.
Im a day late
I was working last night so I did not get to catch up until this morning. I would concur that he is done for the year. Great chance for our younger players to step up. I have confidence that Trickett will have him ready
ACC Rushing
It is hard to say any one of the FSU tailbacks is better than anyone in the ACC because the backs are rotated but our rushing attack is the best in the ACC.
Georgia Tech leads the ACC in rushing with 2247 yards but they don’t pass and are not a balanced team.
VT has 1559 yards rushing to 1482 for FSU but I think it simply because FSU is a better balanced team. FSU is rushing is 5.7 yards a carry compared to 5.41 for VT and 5.77 for Georgia Tech. Running is GT’s bread and butter.
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The process is real, make no mistake, it gets stronger and stronger day by day, it is unstoppable! "Get used to it, get used to winning"....Jimbo Fisher
I would add Lonnie Pryor as a 6th O-lineman.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 20, 2010 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
and
4th wide receiver, 4th running back…Um…TE maybe down the list.
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by onebarrelrum on Oct 20, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Bud's Is a little more accurate than Steele's.
Good to see all the FSU players on there regardless though!
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