'Nole Your Opponents
It's time for another edition of 'Nole Your Opponents, the weekly feature where we look at Florida State's remaining games. Over the weekend, North Carolina lost to Miami, Clemson beat Georgia Tech, and Maryland won at Boston College. But what really happened in those games? What caused those results? Inside, we take a look.
North Carolina Tar Heels 10, Miami Hurricanes 33
- Uh-oh! The Canes might have realized Jacory Harris is awful & that running ball and playing to tremendous defense is better call.
- Miami was much better at sustaining drives and winning third down, turnovers, and field position.
- UNC misses its excellent tight end (Zach Pianalto), but UNC is still a quality team. 6.7 per play against Miami is better than what Florida State did.
- It's pretty apparent that FSU completely out-schemed Miami, but the Canes are easily a top 25 team this season and a rematch will be no easy task.
- Playing UNC late in the season will help FSU as the attrition mounts.
- This win keeps Randy Shannon at Miami, meaning the top SoFla recruits will be #Noles and #Gators.
(HD) Game 7: Miami Hurricanes Highlights vs. UNC (10.23.10) (via rusty98um11)
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On offense, bad T.J. Yates made a command performance not seen since last season. After starting 6-for-6 passing, Yates made bad decisions, took sacks, forced two passes that were intercepted, and generally had the yips as he was obviously pressing hard. Carolina had no consistency running the ball, as Johnny White and Shaun Draughn either broke off big runs or were stuffed for little gain. Dwight Jones had a solid night, but talented wideouts Jheranie Boyd and Erik Highsmith may have well stayed in Chapel Hill. Defensively, attrition finally caught up with the Heels as LeCount Fantroy did not play and Da’Norris Searcy and Mywan Jackson were injured early, meaning Deunta Williams and five backups, including three freshmen, tried to hold down the fort in the defensive backfield, but in this case the fort was the Alamo (Quan Sturdivant did not play yet again either). After an early interception, good Jacory Harris showed up and, receiving only token pressure from UNC’s front four, picked apart Carolina’s baby-filled secondary while Miami’s running backs churned out yardage on the ground. And there is no word if Butch Davis and Everett Withers stayed behind to meet with local police to file missing persons reports on UNC’s linebackers, who were non-factors.
The Good, Bad, and Ugly Report – UNC @ Miami
Good take here.
Depth Issues Have Caught Up With UNC
During the first half of the season, the Tar Heels found ways to fill the holes left in their lineup as a result of the NCAA investigations. In some ways, the absence of some players (Marvin Austin, Greg Little) may have actually triggered the emergence of others (Quinton Coples, Dwight Jones).
But while the first six games were proof that Butch Davis had indeed amassed the depth he so cherishes, it was not a bottomless well. Maybe the loss of trusted tight end Zack Pianalto was the tipping point. Or perhaps it was the loss of cornerback Mywan Jackson to a groin injury during Saturday's game at Miami. Take your pick. The inevitable bursting of the dam occurred in the second half against the Hurricanes, who scored the game's final 30 points en route to a 33-10 win.
Jacory Harris didn't exactly look sharp (more on that later) but was smart enough to pick on the players forced into service in the depleted secondary - redshirt freshman corner Terry Shankle in particular. Harris' second and third touchdown passes were hardly things of beauty, but in both cases, his experienced wideouts - Travis Benjamin and Leonard Hankerson - made adjustments when the ball was in mid-flight to come down with the catch. Those were moves that juniors and seniors make, and freshmen learn about - often the hard way.
So the talk about UNC making an unlikely run to the ACC title game has quieted. So to have arguments for T.J. Yates as a potential ACC offensive player of the year (12-of-21, 140 yards, 2 interceptions against Miami).
Now, at 4-3, UNC's sights are lowered toward achieving bowl eligibility. With William & Mary and Duke still on the schedule, that should be doable for the Tar Heels. But that may be the ceiling of what's achievable now, with Florida State, Virginia Tech and N.C. State also waiting in the next four weeks.
Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets 13, Clemson Tigers 27
- What can you say? 60% out-gaining of the opponent is sick.
- Georgia Tech is awful up front on both sides and has a running back playing quarterback.
- Clemson figured out giving the ball to Ellington and not fat-boy Harper is the right move. Smart.
- FSU should be able to copy the Miami and UNC game plan against Clemson, because it has decent defensive talent, unlike Georgia Tech.
- ShakinTheSouthland has more than you ever care to know.
Maryland Terrapins 24, Boston College Eagles 21
- Now project only 8 #ACC bowl teams unless BC can win 4 of last 5 (very possible).
- Spaz is a really good defensive mind. 3.3 yards per play allowed? Bet FSU would pay him to leave the ACC.
- Maryland had three touchdown drives and all three started in BC territory.
- Eagles have no receivers or offensive coach.
- Boston College has a great defense and would have winning record if offensive coordinator wasn't 70+ years old.
Other Notes
Mizzou had 10-points on two drives beginning within Oklahoma 30.
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Can't wait for Thursday!!!
Shorter week but still!
I had to do a double take when I saw Maryland at 5-2.
Of course they have beaten absolutely nobody, but still I expected them to be terrible this year.
Navy was a really good win
UMD benefitted from a number of fluke red-zone turnovers by the Midshipmen, but it is still a quality win.
WAR PAINT OF TN
I think they ARE terrible they just haven't beaten a good team yet.
BC’s is totaly one dimentional and still needed short feilds to score TD’s in a close one.
"Don't bite your friends" - DJ Lancerock
and some ridiculous luck
it looked like.
FSU Football, making bad teams look bad since 2010.
by onebarrelrum on Oct 25, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
VT
I give them some credit but I think they’re getting some press for going on a run vs. their weak opponents (sounds familiar, FSU).
Where's Dan Kendra when you need him?
how good they are remains to be seen....
VT doesnt have a quality win this year and one AWFUL loss, we’ll see what they do vs. Miami but I still think this team is average. Bud summed it up nicely by talking about their awful sched. and now all of sudden they are everyones pick for the ACC.
CFB is SUCH a week by week sport its ridiculous.
Yeah Heathers D is all over their nuts now...
I hope they do win the coastal… I’d rather face them than miami again…
by garnetandgold on Oct 25, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 25, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
FSU (wait for it...)
OWNS Virginia Tech.
Hokies and their fans can bluster all they want, but they would prefer facing ANYONE other than the Noles in December.
"week to week sport" Voters Moto: Time to put on your Man panties and go vote you emotionally driven slugs.
"Don't bite your friends" - DJ Lancerock
Yippee My favorite segment!
Not buying VT.
Also REALLY don’t wan’t to play MIA again. Could be closer next time.
I think if we take care of the ball…IF…we should be able to handle our business in the next four games. Fun to see if we can,.
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Agree on Miami
I was saying right after the game I don’t want to play them again. Hopefully VT can stop them since Foster’s defense is made to stop Pro style teams who want to run first
by osceolafan2.0 on Oct 25, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Finally, someone stepped up and showed leadership.....
Telemaque channeled his inner Ed Reed at halftime. The team, for the first time in forever, appeared to be having fun. Even Coach Shannon loosened up. Maybe now that the team is holding themselves accountable (players only meeting last week called by LaRon Byrd, Telemaque and others), Shannon can let his guard down a bit.
by Nole Resurrected on Oct 26, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm glad you guys won.
Hope you win out aside from VT or GT.
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UNC personnel
Anyone have a complete account of players that will be out/questionable for our game in 2 weeks?
Ramsay – junior fullback
Smith – senior safety
Gupton – cornerback
Brown – cornerback, all 4 out for the year.
Little, Austin and Quinn are toast.
Burney – cornerback
McAdoo – defensive end, both haven’t been reinstated yet, to my knowledge.
That’s everyone I’m aware of, according to this article.
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WF
running back broke free for some really long TD runs. 20 carries for 241 yards! A lot of that came on I think 3 really long carries. Think what BC’s Harris did to FSU to juice up his stats and multiply by 2.
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by onebarrelrum on Oct 25, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
ahh, 87 yd Harris run
Remove that, though, and they’re still looking at 6.3 YPP against. Yet they hold Price to 3/16. crazy
FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.
Also had a 37 yarder
and a 33 yarder. So 157 yards on 3 of his carries. Not to take anything away from him. He also had a hand full of 12-18 yard runs. But take away those 3 really long runs and he has 17 rushes for 84 yards at 4.9 ypc. Still a decent day for him.
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by onebarrelrum on Oct 25, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I think they're not a very disciplined team.
They can stop a pro-style attack but up against a Boise or Wake and they have a lot of problems.
Not confident on this but their performances are reminding me of Mickey’s years preceding 2010.
I think we can, but we won't have the huge surprise advantage over them in terms of play-calling.
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 25, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Sure we do!
Jimbo goes veer with a dash of triple option shotgun spread! They’ll never know what hit them….again
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Oct 25, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks for erasing my posts douchebag
stop taking yourself so seriously, you’re in charge of a message board wow it’s not like any of your posts are any more important than the rest of ours are.
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by DeionWarrick on Oct 25, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I did it
You accepted community rules when you signed up here. You’ll follow them or we’ll erase your posts.
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by DKfromVA on Oct 25, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
You make me so proud.
>-----:----:------>Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
Actually,
you had an open tag that caused everyone else problems posting.
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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I think we could beat them twice....
It would be interesting, I dont see UMs offense being any better by that time and neither team will have a motivational advantage. I think our coaching advantage would remain in tact in a 2nd game.
That being said, I’d rather face VT because I think UM is better than them.
I think UM's offense will be better as the tight end improves, oline improves, and they run more.
Miami Defense definitely will be more ready this time
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 25, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Flip the field in UM's favor and that would've been a different game
I think we still win the first one, but the only way we win the rematch if it happens is with short fields and +1 or +2 TO
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by The Ryno and I Know on Oct 25, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Hopkins and Reid are the ones who flipped the field for us in that game
by westcoastnolefan on Oct 25, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Defense and CP7 too
UM Starting a drive from their own 1 yard line along with FSU starting a drive from UM 1 yard line helped quite a bit too.
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by The Ryno and I Know on Oct 25, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
??
I didnt know why everyone was on the UM bandwagon before we beat them and I dont know why everyone is starting to gravitate back that way again before the possible sequel. We match up great with Miami.
by cerebralfish on Oct 25, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Nobody is anointing Miami some great team.
It’s just we’d rather not have to beat a team twice.
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I don't want to play another FL team twice.
I’ve been down that road. I know exactly where it leads…
by SDnole on Oct 25, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Headline: Randy Shannon realizes his job is safe (for now) after crushing UNC.

>-----:----:------>Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
"Congratulations Coach Shannon-you won the game! What are you gonna do now?"
“I’m going to the 7th floor!”
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
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"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
by Dogrel on Oct 25, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Can't beat Miami Again? 45-17
You must be kidding. You won’t have to worry about it as VT will drub them. The VT defense is just what the doctor didn’t order for Miami. As depleted as UNC was Miami was virtually playing a high school team with so many freshman out there.

We are "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented." says Fisher.
The process is real, make no mistake, it gets stronger and stronger day by day, it is unstoppable! "Get used to it, get used to winning"....Jimbo Fisher
by DocHoliday2 on Oct 25, 2010 12:08 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
P.E.T.A. just put out a significant bounty on Doc's head....
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by BigSpearDiplomacy on Oct 25, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
It should say "BLOOM".
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"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
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By that rationale, OU would thump FSU again......
Trust me, if we played again, it wouldn’t be 45-17.
by Nole Resurrected on Oct 26, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I do think we would get thumped again. We may be better, but there are still limits on
what we can incorporate in that first year. This is Bob’s defense too. Maybe, not as bed, but probably still lose.
I wish I felt the same way if we play you guys again. I think we would win, but it would be nowhere as enjoyable throughout.
Bring back Peter Tom Willis— a true Nole! -FiestaNole
Anyone have any idea when the ACC releases next weekend's game times?
Like when we play UNC?
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Oct 25, 2010 12:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Almost every ranked team that week has TBA on the ESPN schedule.
Maybe they’ve all been 6 day optioned or maybe it just hasn’t been updated today?
http://espn.go.com/college-football/schedule?week=10
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"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
What is with all the lines?
Is Bud under cyber attack now?
We are "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented." says Fisher.
The process is real, make no mistake, it gets stronger and stronger day by day, it is unstoppable! "Get used to it, get used to winning"....Jimbo Fisher
You can make the case um should have beaten them worse than they did.
Yates sucked badly…his performance was a joke…cetainly not one worthy of even middle of the road ACC…much less “best in the acc” as they have been touted here (before attrition). So the glimmer of the victory for um has to be taken into context.
5 rookies/backups playing on defense for unc? A decent qb should have SHREDDED their secondary……what is surprising was that it was as close as it was.
by Blue Horseshoe on Oct 25, 2010 12:53 PM EDT reply actions
The longest spear EVER!!!
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by freshcollegeboy on Oct 25, 2010 1:06 PM EDT reply actions
Looks like somebody had an unclosed cross0out tag
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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The Ryno and I Know is the culprit!!! Hang him!!!
Please tell me more DeionWarrick Dionne Warwick
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by The Ryno and I Know on Oct 25, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions
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by freshcollegeboy on Oct 25, 2010 1:15 PM EDT reply actions
Oopsies. I thought it was me since I reposted and it was still in strikethrough
That must have been the REAL Dionne Warwick hexing me from the netherworld.
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by The Ryno and I Know on Oct 25, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
touche
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by freshcollegeboy on Oct 25, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Drive chart question and the OU-Mizzou game
Question for Bud: I went over to rockytoptalk and I see how to get the drive charts, but how are you getting the average yards per play? Or is that coming from somewhere else? Also, do you have some automated way to eliminate garbage time, or do you actually go through each game yourself and calculated the averages by hand?
This next question is even more off-topic, but OU was one of our opponents, so maybe it’s ok.
How did everyone feel about the OU-Mizzou game, assuming that you watched it? Do you feel that OU would cover (-3) in that game more than 6 times out of 11 (the minimum required to bet it)? I still think that OU would cover (-3) maybe 7 or 8 times out of 11 (assuming that it’s not pouring rain), but I’m wondering if I’m being irrational.
IMO If OU doesn't drive 60 yards and throw a pick inside the 20 that gets returned almost for a touchdown it would have been a different game. Also Mizzou had great FP all game. That's the difference in the game for me
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by freshcollegeboy on Oct 25, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to do them myself.
I watched OU-Mizzou and I think OU’s main issue was impatience and poor blocking.
Yes I do think if they played again OU would win and would still be favored tomorrow.
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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I buy VT as much as I buy us right now.
They’re good. We’re good. Just how good is good though? Don’t know.
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"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
ufTiger??
A little confused, are we?
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 26, 2010 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions
You know, kinda like nazitaliban or
rattlesnakefrostbite… just take a couple warm & fuzzy concepts and squeeze them together for your friendly neighboorhood username!
Apparently the Volunteers are like the Germans when the allies came to invade them on D-Day.
At least that’s what Dooley told me. You saying Nazi is the only connection to my mostly random comment.
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"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
and before you say anything, I know that's probably going to end in both cases this season.
I had to get that in while I still have the chance!
And to clear things up, I got my undergrad at Clemson and getting my PhD in Gainesville

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