Florida State Film Review: Seminoles' Defense v. Virginia's Offense
by Bud Elliott on Oct 5, 2010 9:00 AM EDT
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PrintWelcome to another edition of the Florida State film review. FSU's defense dominated Virginia all day.
Drive #1
- Hopkins, D. kickoff 70 yards to the VA0, Horne,R return 24 yards to the VA24 (Harley, J.), PENALTY FS personal foul 15 yards to the VA39, 1st and 10, VA ball on VA39. The personal foul here was awful. Jenije was going down because the guy pushed him.
- V 1-10 V39 Verica,M pass incomplete to Burd,K. It was absolutely ridiculous what they got away with. FSU came out and played cover-2 man under (2 deep with corners and linebackers in man). Moody is late getting over top but it doesn't cost FSU. Markus White smoked the right tackle with a nice inside swim.
- V 2-10 V39 PENALTY VA holding (Cabbell,B.J) 10 yards to the VA29. Excellent play by White, Jacobbi McDaniel, and Nigel Bradham cleans up. Right guard has to tackle McDaniel.
- V 2-20 V29 Jones,P rush for 3 yards to the VA32 (Moody, N.). Markus White and Bradham play this quite well. Moody takes an iffy angle and could have been called for the horse collar but was not.
- V 3-17 V32 Jones,P rush for 3 yards to the VA35 (Dawkins, E.;Bradham, N.). Excellent job by McDaniel and White! Bradham cleans it up.
- V 4-14 V35 Howell,J punt 50 yards to the FS15, Reid, G. return 7 yards to the FS22 (Aiken,D;Milien,M). Demps blows a block here otherwise Reid has about 13.
- 3 plays, minus 4 yards, TOP 01:58
Drive #2
- Hopkins, D. kickoff 45 yards to the VA25, out-of-bounds, VA ball on VA40. Ridiculous. Not much analysis here.
- Va 1-10 at Va40 VIRGINIA drive start at 08:40. Va 1-10 at Va40 Verica,M pass incomplete to Burd,K (Rhodes, X.). 3-step drop from I-formation. Protection is very good despite Brandon Jenkins getting an excellent jump. Rhodes makes a great break on the comeback route and crushes the receiver with perfect timing. Rhodes is a good corner who might turn into a great corner.
- Va 2-10 at Va40 Verica,M pass complete to Jones,P for 1 yard to the VA41, fumble forced by Alexander, M., fumble by Jones,P recovered by VA TEAM at VA41, out-of-bounds. Tremendous hit by Mister Alexander on the screen pass. One of the best FSU hits I have ever seen.
- Va 3-9 at Va41 Verica,M pass incomplete to Inman,D. Excellent zone blitz by FSU. Guy was open but pressure forced a wild throw. Well executed.
- Va 4-9 at Va41 Howell,J punt 29 yards to the FS30, downed. Drive: 3 plays, 1 yards, TOP 01:04 Chad Abram needs to lay his man out here so Greg can catch the ball. Almost a disaster here as the refs could have given this to UVA off Christian Jones.
Drive #3
- Hopkins, D. kickoff 70 yards to the VA0, Horne,R return 25 yards to the VA25 (Demps, G.). Excellent kickoff 6 yards deep! Either Dent or Haggins misses the tackle (can't see the number). Should have been stopped at the 17.
- Va 1-10 at Va25 VIRGINIA drive start at 07:24. Va 1-10 at Va25 Jones,P rush for 10 yards to the VA35, 1ST DOWN VA (Moody, N.;Reid, G.). Everybody gets blocked. Jenkins doesn't squeeze. McDaniel doesn't hold ground. Linebackers don't fill. Ugly.
- Va 1-10 at Va35 Verica,M pass incomplete to Milien,M, dropped pass. Pass to the flats. Alexander probably stops him for a gain of 4, but this was an ugly throw and I give FSU no credit for it. Pure bad offense by UVA.
- Va 2-10 at Va35 Verica,M pass incomplete to Burd,K. I-formation shifted to pro-set. FSU plays cover-2 man (shell). Throw is iffy but the coverage by Xavier Rhodes on this deep comeback (or square in) is decent.
- Va 3-10 at Va35 Verica,M pass complete to Jones,P for no gain to the VA35 (Smith, K.). Stoops brings another zone blitz on 3rd-long. 5 come and Brandon Jenkins drops. UVA runs a screen. Well designed, but FSU's players are too talented. Good recognition by Jenkins. Excellent hustle by Amp McCloud and Nigel Bradham and they actually run into each other. Kendall Smith with the nice cleanup and hustle.
- Va 4-10 at Va35 Howell,J punt 51 yards to the FS14, fair catch by Reid, G. Excellent punt.
- Drive: 4 plays, 10 yards, TOP 01:29
Drive #4
- Hopkins, D. kickoff 70 yards to the VA0, touchback. Va 1-10 at Va20 VIRGINIA drive start at 14:56. Finally got his act together.
- Va 1-10 at Va20 Payne,K rush for 3 yards to the VA23 (Bradham, N.;McAllister, D.). McDaniel blown off the ball by the double team. Really bad effort there.
- Va 2-7 at Va23 Verica,M sacked for loss of 8 yards to the VA15 (Rhodes, X.). Stoops brings a corner blitz. Hadn't seen that yet this year. Good pressure by Jones and Rhodes cleans it up.
- Va 3-15 at Va15 Verica,M sacked for loss of 5 yards to the VA10 (McAllister, D.). Tremendous coverage and all 4 rushers eventually close in. Coverage sack and protection was not terrible.
- Va 4-20 at Va10 Howell,J punt 43 yards to the FS47, Reid, G. return -2 yards to the FS45 (Womack,T;Freedman,P). Don't like the blocking right now on the punt returns. Not awful but nothing special.
- Drive: 3 plays, minus 10 yards, TOP 02:11
Drive #5
- Hopkins, D. kickoff 70 yards to the VA0, touchback.
- Va 1-10 at Va20 VIRGINIA drive start at 10:18. Va 1-10 at Va20 Jones,P rush for loss of 1 yard to the VA19 (Dawkins, E.;Rhodes, X.). FSU isn't even lined up all the way but boy does Everett Dawkins play this great. Gets penetration then shuffles down the line to his help. Great play.
- Va 2-11 at Va19 Verica,M pass complete to Payne,K for 10 yards to the VA29 (Smith, K.;Jones, C.), PENALTY FS personal foul (Moody, N.) 15 yards to the VA44, 1ST DOWN VA. Very nice spin move by Jenkins. Quick drop-off to the back. Verica hadn't taken this all day and FSU was giving it. Moody spears the guy with his helmet and gets flagged.
- Va 1-10 at Va44 1st and 10. Va 1-10 at Va44 Verica,M pass complete to Payne,K for 16 yards to the FS40, 1ST DOWN VA (Smith, K.;Moody, N.). Looks like there is a coverage bust here. Rhodes is playing man while one of the backers is playing zone. That means the flat is uncovered.
- Va 1-10 at Fs40 Verica,M pass incomplete. Rhodes on the zone blitz right into the backside of a poorly-faked bootleg.
- Va 2-10 at Fs40 Jones,P rush for 1 yard to the FS39 (Bradham, N.). FSU brings the blitz again and hits it. Numbers.
- Va 3-9 at Fs39 Payne,K rush for 8 yards to the FS31 (Moody, N.;Dawkins, E.). Pitch to the big man. UVA blocks this really, really well, and it's a play you don't see coming. Who pitches to the fullback to the short side when they need 9 yards? UVA did. White, Dawkins, Bradham, and Rhodes all pinned inside.
- Va 4-1 at Fs31 Payne,K rush for 1 yard to the FS30, 1ST DOWN VA (Jenkins, B.). This play was complete garbage. Smith flat out crushes the back in mid air and he doesn't even get back to the original line of scrimmage, but the refs give it to him anyway.
- Va 1-10 at Fs30 PENALTY VA unsportsmanlike conduct (Mihota,A) 15 yards to the FS45.
- Va 1-25 at Fs45 1st and 10. Va 1-10 at Fs45 Jones,P rush for 2 yards to the FS43 (White, M.). Nice job holding ground by everyone. Just a stack. Markus White set the edge.
- Va 2-8 at Fs43 Verica,M sacked for loss of 2 yards to the FS45 (White, M.). FSU brings the blitz, nice move by Jenkins, Verica refuses to take the checkdown, and White cleans it up.
- Va 3-10 at Fs45 Verica,M pass incomplete to Torchia,J, dropped pass. Outlet pass on 3rd-10 and Mike Harris crushes the tight end as he bobbles the ball. Never a threat for the first down. UVA holding ridiculously here.
- Va 4-10 at Fs45 Howell,J punt 45 yards to the FS0, touchback.
- Drive: 10 plays, 35 yards, TOP 04:29 Not a good drive for FSU but the refs didn't help.
Drive #6
- Va 1-10 at Va20 VIRGINIA drive start at 02:30. Va 1-10 at Va20 Verica,M pass incomplete to Jones,P. Screen pass. Overthrown but FSU had it played very well for a 3-4 yard loss had he caught it. Excellent job by Jenkins as well.
- Va 2-10 at Va20 Verica,M pass incomplete to Burd,K. Quick drop, post, badly thrown behind. Had he thrown it on target there would have been a nice collision between Parks and the receiver.
- Va 3-10 at Va20 Verica,M pass incomplete to Torchia,J. Tremendous coverage from Mike Harris on the hybrid WR/TE. In his hip pocket all the way. UVA tried to go quick verticals on this drive and it was ugly.
- Va 4-10 at Va20 Howell,J punt 38 yards to the FS42, Reid, G. return 23 yards to the VA35 (Snyder,M;Womack,T).
- Drive: 3 plays, 0 yards, TOP 00:24
Drive #7
- Va 1-10 at Va25 VIRGINIA drive start at 11:58. Va 1-10 at Va25 Jones,P rush for loss of 1 yard to the VA24 (Jenkins, B.). Tremendous play by Everett Dawkins to ride the hip and make the play.
- Va 2-11 at Va24 Verica,M pass complete to Burd,K for 76 yards to the FS0, 1ST DOWN VA, TOUCHDOWN, clock 11:13. Randolph,R kick attempt good. Florida State 27, Virginia 7 Corner zone blitz, Nick Moody has deep responsibility here, and he doesn't play it. Busted coverage. As I said in the preview, UVA can't beat FSU unless it has mental busts.
- Drive: 2 plays, 75 yards, TOP 00:45
Drive #8
- Va 1-10 at Va07 VIRGINIA drive start at 08:31. Va 1-10 at Va07 Verica,M pass complete to Burd,K for 9 yards to the VA16 (Jones, C.). Soft cover 3, Reid late to break on the ball.
- Va 2-1 at Va16 Jones,P rush for 3 yards to the VA19, 1ST DOWN VA (Bradham, N.;Jones, C.). Very nice cutback running on a power to the boundary.
- Va 1-10 at Va19 PENALTY VA holding (Cabbell,B.J) 9 yards to the VA10. Finally UVA gets flagged for holding as its right guard executes a takedown.
- Va 1-19 at Va10 Jones,P rush for 4 yards to the VA14 (Jenkins, B.). Poorly played by Markus White, loses point of attack.
- Va 2-15 at Va14 Verica,M pass complete to Inman,D for 6 yards to the VA20 (Reid, G.). FSU in soft zone here and UVA only grabs 6 on 2nd-15. Flip to the running back.
- Va 3-9 at Va20 Verica,M pass complete to Payne,K for 13 yards to the VA33, 1ST DOWN VA (Reid, G.). Poorly played by Christian Jones. Too much of a spot drop.
- Va 1-10 at Va33 Payne,K rush for 2 yards to the VA35 (Smith, K.;Jenkins, B.). Pretty well squeezed by Jenkins.
- Va 2-8 at Va35 Verica,M pass complete to Inman,D for 24 yards to the FS41, 1ST DOWN VA (Rhodes, X.). Same zone blitz as first quarter, Markus White drops, 5 come, UVA throws the post over White in front of Rhodes. Only difference is pressure gets picked up this time so throw isn't wild. Jenije late.
- Va 1-10 at Fs41 Burd,K rush for no gain to the FS41 (Rhodes, X.). Great play by Rhodes. Stayed home on end around.
- Va 2-10 at Fs41 Verica,M pass complete to Torchia,J for 11 yards to the FS30, 1ST DOWN VA (Harris, M.).
- Va 1-10 at Fs30 Timeout Virginia, clock 03:12.
- Va 1-10 at Fs30 Verica,M pass intercepted by Reid, G. at the FS0, Reid, G. return 0 yards to the FS0, touchback. Bad play be the QB. Not much in terms of a great defensive play.
- Drive: 10 plays, 63 yards, TOP 05:27
After this is "garbage time" and I don't break that down in the interest of time.
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I loved drive #4
It was awesome watching it unfold. Corner blitz on 2nd, then a beautiful coverage sack on 3rd. Darn impressive
"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett
by The Ryno and I Know on Oct 5, 2010 9:18 AM EDT reply actions
You should be enjoying this recap, rico
Its all about taking back first down
"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett
by The Ryno and I Know on Oct 5, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
2009:
255 rushing attempts on 1st downs against FSU
46 went for 10+ yards
18% of all 1st down runs went for 10+ yard gains
2010:
85 rushing attempts on 1st downs against FSU
5 went for 10+ yards
6% of all 1st down runs went for 10+ yard gains
We’ve decreased the rate of 1st down runs of 10+ yards by a factor of 3.
FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.
by ricobert1 on Oct 5, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
2009:
132 passing attempts on 1st downs against FSU
32 went for 15+ yards
24% of all 1st down passes went for 15+ yard gains
2010:
60 passing attempts on 1st downs against FSU
8 went for 15+ yards
13% of all 1st down passes went for 15+ yard gains
We’ve decreased the rate of 1st down passes of 15+ yards by almost a factor of 2.
FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.
by ricobert1 on Oct 5, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
The only numbers that excite me more than these
are on paychecks.
by NOLEmercy3 on Oct 5, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We are not into the meat of our schedule yet
the stats should get worse – 4 good Os left to play – 3 not so much Os
Obviously this years D is better than last years though
I'll say this...
Even if Clemson, UF, and Miami hang 40 on us each, I’m still going to be pleased with our improvement.
The bottom line is that last year we couldn’t stop anyone, good or bad. If we can stop bad and mediocre offenses this year, that is a good improvement.
Next year hopefully we contain good offenses. Keep them in the 20’s.
Year after that we can hopefully be shutting down almost everyone.
Exactly.
I think my sig line and your sig line pretty much sums it up. HA!
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You should change it to
FSU Football, making bad teams look bad 1947-2003, 2010-present.
Blocking on punt returns
Bud mentioned it above and I wanted to emphasize it – it seems like our blocking on punt returns has been substandard over the past few games. Reid almost never has a chance because the kicking team is in his face as soon as he catches the ball.
Not only are we not taking advantage of a valuable resource in Reid, but his competitive nature is causing him to take dangerous chances that could backfire.
That punt could have been
very unlucky, bounced almost straight backwards after hitting. Very unusual. Looked like on Sunshine it went right by Jones and bounced off UVA player that was right in front of him first. Right in between the two players. Lucky.
I wonder If FSU will take so many chances with the blitz on Harris. They do well against the blitz.
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Moody on the busted play
I was so unsure when I watched it initially, bc everyone was up so I figured Moody had run responsibility so it was either Parks, Reid, Kendall or Bradham. Thanks for the recap.
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by The Ryno and I Know on Oct 5, 2010 9:22 AM EDT reply actions
I thought Moody was blitzing on the 76-yard bomb.
If I recall, he blitzed from UVA’s right side and a running back picked up the block. He almost drives his man into the QB, but Verica gets it off in time.
by The K-Man on Oct 5, 2010 10:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i'm probably confusing plays.
But one thing is for certain: Nigel Bradham can run straight very fast.
He was catching Burd on the 76-yarder.
by The K-Man on Oct 5, 2010 10:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Only Bud knows
I was sure at the time the replay showed Moody in the box, with Parks and Reid having the deepest position at time of snap
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by The Ryno and I Know on Oct 5, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
It looks to me like there was some confusion as to the play call. Everyone seemed very certain in their assignment but someone was supposed to be up that sideline.
"Don't bite your friends" - DJ Lancerock
This is what I thought
Or Moody just bit big time on the PA and never recovered. I couldn’t really tell.
Dear NCAA,
Can we please have Karlos NOW?
I know that process is the focus, but I would really LOVE to see some results against UM and UF.
by SoCalNole on Oct 5, 2010 12:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Even if Moody is blitzing - there still has to be a deep man on D
there was not – and no way it is a LB
I'm saying I think he got the call wrong and wasn't supoosed to.
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Looks like Parks comes down very low pre-snap
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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Don’t think so. Moody squares up his body on the play fake. He started as deep as the line backers. He might have had run responsibility but he was in no position to fill at hole at the depth he was at on the play fake.
that's what I saw too
I defer to those in the know, but just assumed that Moody lined up at same position as LB meant he was in run support
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by The Ryno and I Know on Oct 5, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Regardless he should have been deep or the CB one. Parks was definately not deep.
MOody got the call wrong IMO
"Don't bite your friends" - DJ Lancerock
Were we in man?
It looked like Reid was trailing the receiver over the middle
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
No the LB's had all dropped...looked like 3 deep...except the saftey or corner on that side was MIA
"Don't bite your friends" - DJ Lancerock
So I wonder if Reid perhaps blew this coverage, because I swear I saw him trailing
he hesitated as if to think about it for a moment then kept running with the receiver from his side, then BOOM the receiver crossed the field (as Verica would later to say, to clear the zone out for the underneath route). The more I think about this, the more I think Reid blew this.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
thanks for the clarification all
I wondered about Reid as well bc I saw him trailing then give way
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by The Ryno and I Know on Oct 6, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Right. Parks was rolled u or blitzing, so there is no way reguardless of whether he was blitzing moody should have even been worried about the play action.
he was supposed to be deep and NEVER was.
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That is how I saw it
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I agree with this too, honestly, this looked so bad it's difficult to discern what anyone was doing I think.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
It appears to me that our DL is often lining up a yard or so off of the neutral zone
Is there a reason for this, or am I just seeing things?
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
I was wondering the same thing
they dont seem to get pushed back and maybe it allows them added space to fire into the o-line. curious if there is an explanation for it
The old Tom Landry flex?
The cowboys used to have two up, two back.
Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.
Leading the nation in sacks
against sh**ty competition or not…something is working
My Bro said we play crapy teams other than okla so the sacks stat doesnt mean anything.
I responded Ohio st has played crappy teams so far other than Miami and they don’t lead the nation in sacks.
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by truecolors on Oct 5, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
HA!
worth a Rec, got to love using somebodies own reasoning to smack’em up.
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TC groinkicks his brother and states loudly,
“How bout that sack!”
FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.
Here is truecolors brother before truecolors steps into the picture.
>-----:----:------>Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
by FrankDNole on Oct 6, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I really think my brother is a stand up guy...hope he doesn't see this.
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I noticed this with J-Mac
I always think he’s about to drop into zone coverage, but he never does. Didn’t really notice the rest of the DL, but I’ll look a little closer.
Drive #2
Was that the play where the announcer says "That’s why they call him “Mister”?
mister stayed on the field after that hit
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by stevegrizzle on Oct 5, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s dumb and it’s a good way to get brain damage. If you think you are concussed or are not feeling well in the head you need to step off.
I hated this play. Mister lays the wood but he doesn’t wrap up. Next week that same play could go for more yards because Mister just lowered his shoulder. If you are going to drop your should you need to make sure you hit the player low. Poor tackling form, IMO.
Ok, maybe he didn't wrap up
But that’s exactly the kind of hit I wanna see. The reason Mister didn’t wrap up is because he saw the ball-carrier drop his shoulders in attempt to run thru Mister’s tackle. Basically Mister wasn’t havin that ish. By the time they hit, they were both committed.
Saw Peter Warrick play once. The rest is history...
Lots of man-under it seems
any chance Stoops was treating this game the way Jimbo treated Wake and they were working on that coverage?
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
I have no clue
just seemed like a disproportionate amount of man was being played. Don’t know if there is some intention to run more against Miami (I can’t imagine that) or if it was something where Stoops felt we could work on it. Was just wondering.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
Fair enough
Cover 2 shell is a great way to give your corners help inside / over the top. And since Verica is no threat to scramble, we could mix in more man-to-man against them. We can couch it with Stoops emphasis on “being multiple.”
This is a bit of a conspiracy theory, but perhaps Stoops wants to goad Whipple into thinking we’ll run a lot of man coverage (a la 2009), have him gameplan for that type of coverage, and then sit in a zone all night and wait for the presents.
FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.
If they are doing that kind of game planning, my hat is off to them.
It looked to me like we did a fair amount of blitzing in this game as well. I wondered if that was to give Miami something to think about.
I think this is the key. They just felt they COULD blitz more and mixed in some man blitzes as a result.
i don’t think there is a master plan.
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JH12 is good against man coverage
and horrible against zones. I think we’ll see rush 4 drop 8 from our D the whole night. Maybe some exchange blitzing (DE drops back, LB stunts), but forget the man coverage IMO
FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.
Ah, the dreaded 12 man defense
It’s deadly if used effectively, just ask Derek Dooley.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Oct 5, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
wrong
that was 13. and it was awesome.
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by onebarrelrum on Oct 5, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Mad Hatter voodoo whammy...
see him hypmotize those two vols running off? Had them turn right around…luv me some les miles
He intended to use twelve (sent 4 on and pulled 3 off) but one guy turned around mid run off.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
In all seriousness
as serious as you can be over that craptastic finish, the refs SHOULD have been standing over the ball while LSU ran guys on and off the field. They failed. If the refs did what they were supposed to do the clock very well may have hit zero while the ref was over the ball. And LSU would have lost the way they were supposed to.
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We gotta get the D-Line into some
beserker frenzy blood-in-the-water, if we are getting pressure with just the front 4, oh buddy
we can look at the numbers and matchups based on previous performance, but the X factor for me is our new coaching staff across the board which will have a gameplan, prepare them, and the youth will keep them FIRED up ALL WEEK beyond anything this team has experienced before.
Agreed
I am most interested in the coaching staff this week. All I want expect to see from the players is focus, tenacity and to do their best to stay healthy. The division is not lost this week.
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by The Ryno and I Know on Oct 5, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that's the old scheme's mindset
We need to be able to play the run and the pass, as opposed to “letting the DL off their chains” so to speak. Our sacks haven’t come from one player is destroying the opposing competition (Everette Brown); they’ve come from coverage sacks – where the coverage forces the QB to make checks to find the open throw, and the fact that even the good OL can’t maintain their blocks for more than 4 or so seconds. It’s a systems-based approach (coverage + front 4) rather than “out-athleting” your opponent. This is a welcome change.
FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.
Think more like the OU game
than the other 4 games – with what our D line will do against Miami’s OL
How so?
OU did short drops, screen passes, and swing passes. Not a good measure of pass rush because they took the pass rush out of the equation
FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.
Which is odd, because
There was no evidence that we HAD a pass rush prior to OU.
Personally, I think they just wanted to get the ball to playmakers as quickly as possible w/out using the run. Jones had been inconsistent up until the FSU game, so they used the short stuff to get him in sync. Couple that with a very effective no-huddle, and boom goes the dynamite.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman
Agreed OU was held to 2.3 per rush and that was half of their attempted plays.
This DL may not be deadly yet, but they are well coached and very legitimate.
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Man defense
Is still one of the best to call and can give offenses a harder time. I think Stoops is just getting more comfortable with his guys and seeing that in many cases they have superior talent and speed. In those cases Man Defense is the best to run.
I think there will be more zone against miami but who are we kidding? In that game the kids play as hard as they can. I look forward to the game.
Playing man against Miami is a disaster
Our DBs will get torched
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I mean there is not
for more than maybe 5% of plays. I just thought I noticed some more this week, maybe he wants to lure Whipple into thinking we will like rico said.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
At most
we see one man playing straight up on hankerson if he is in the slot (as harris has done occasionally). Looking forward to Bud’s breakdown
Either way
Someone is going to have to pop him the damn mouth if we’re to have a shot at slowing him down.
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by CornNole on Oct 5, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Personally
I think this is a “how big are you _” game for #27.
He’s got a chance as a freshman to show the world what’s he got.
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You blitz bad QBs. You play coverage against good QBs and good Olines. UM has a good Oline, although I would expect to see some zone blitzes (I hate this phrase) sprinkled in there.
Define "good".......in reference to UM's OLine.
I have not seen this “good” OLine yet. (admittedly small sample set).
Soft & overrated true freshmen do not start @ RT for a “good” OL.
Oderint Dum Metuant
Great read Bud, thanks!
I really enjoyed seeing our defense bring some varied blitzes to the table rather than just the standard, linebacker shoots between a gap in the line approach. Makes Miami prepare for more and it shows Stoops is beginning to trust his players to understand the system more and more. Good all around!
One quick grammar note Bud: on drive 8, the second to last bullet point you wrote “Bad play be the QB”. I’m sure you meant “by the QB.”
Anyone have any idea why
our kick return team is dead last in the nation in return yards?? I understand that we’ve had nearly half the amount of return opportunities because of the lack of scoring allowed by the D. But still, our average is 13.40 yards per return. With LJ and G5 back there, we should be ballin’on returns.
It looks to me like EVERY TIME Joyner gets the ball he turns and runs east-west at the 10 yard line
I don’t know if that’s the call being made from the sideline, or if he just does that, but it’s getting irritating. Gotta be northsouth there.
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by AMFKNole on Oct 5, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
Shouldn’t Gran be all over Joyner on this though?
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by The Ryno and I Know on Oct 5, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
One would imagine
Which is why I question if it’s the call coming from Gran that is faulty.
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it's becoming painfully obvious with each passing game
It was either BYU or Wake, but I watched the same player allow his man to ruin Greg’s return on consecutive punts, and 3 times overall.
Maybe it’s time for Gran to shake up personnel.
Joyner is looking like Michael Ray Garvin pre-2008. He’s hoping magical running lanes and fountains of youth will appear from nowhere. You have to hit the first hole and let instincts take over. (Please no TWSS jokes, it’s played out)
by The K-Man on Oct 5, 2010 11:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yup,
too much sideways running. Not sure if it is all on him or not. I’m sure the blocking can be better but so could Joyner.
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by onebarrelrum on Oct 5, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
TWSS will NEVER be played out
Anyways, I’d be interested to get AJ back there to see what he can do. Especially with Joyner’s ankle injury. He hasn’t shown he can be a factor back there, so why jeopardize his spot in the CB rotation?
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I'm with you on AJ on KR, BUT
If you don’t block….it doesnt matter who is returning the kicks.
Oderint Dum Metuant
Right. No matter where on the field Joyner gets the ball, he will always run to his right instead of going straight ala Michael Ray Garvin.
>-----:----:------>Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
MRG was the man his last season n half here
Fast, straight, get to the 30, then hit the sideline
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by The Ryno and I Know on Oct 5, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
look at them individually
What is the median.
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if you mean the median yards per return in the nation
the median is 21.93. thats nearly 10 yards more per return than we are averaging, with arguably, the 2 best return men in the game. What we are gaining the kick off game, we are giving away in the return game. It’s a head scracther to say the least.
I will say, at least G5 is getting in front of someone now when LJ gets the ball. I wouldn’t call it full on blocking, but it’s not O’leh that he was doing at the beginning of the year, A la, OU game.
by ActiveAgent on Oct 5, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i mean our median
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not sure where to find
all of the returns listed by game.
Its not great
But for me, I will gladly trade D-Hop touchbacks and Powell fair catches all day on Saturday night if it means we have a garbage return game as well.
"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett
by The Ryno and I Know on Oct 5, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd personally like to see us return exactly 0 kicks
And have D-Hop bang home about 10 touchbacks.
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Indeed. Something like this would be very nice
October 4, 1997
No. 4 Florida State 47, Miami 0
Doak Campbell Stadium
Florida State overpowered Miami from the start to hand the ‘Canes their worst defeat since 1927. It wasn’t just the offense that was effective for the ’Noles as they piled up 422 yards, but the defense was equally impressive. The ’Noles D limited the ’Canes to 131 yards of total offense and -33 yards rushing.
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by The Ryno and I Know on Oct 5, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
You know it
Unlikely outcome again…unless Frank Gore throws another party.
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by The Ryno and I Know on Oct 5, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
you mean
just one kick, rite?? sounds good to me. and that one return be for a TD.
Nope
Once their down 27-0 to start the second half they’ll be forced to go for the onsides, recover, 3 n out, roll on…
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by The Ryno and I Know on Oct 5, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
is there any way to run a drive-by-drive analysis of how many times they got away w/ holding?
it was like a square-dancing competition for a while there…
Kick off and Punt coverage
I don’t think they have been practicing those, due to injury risk, we are not that deep. Also, Fisher doesn’t like contact just for contact. I’m sure we are working on it, just probably emphazing other parts more.
Isn't starting field position important?
Especially against a good defense. Hopefully they will place a huge emphasis on the return game this week. It could be the difference.
by FSUActuary on Oct 5, 2010 12:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I love knowing every game we play the players have the opportunity to get better and Stoops has more chances to know the limitations of his players.
I’m glad Moody’s glitch came one week before Miami.
I wonder if by now Stoops has gotten a feel for just how much he can get out of the best 11 players he puts out on the field.
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I’m glad Moody’s glitch came one week before Miami.
Whipple will do everything he can to force another “glitch”. I won’t be surprised if we see another v Miami. Our defensive backs are good, but very inexperienced. Whipple will try to fool them with anything he can to get those big WR’s open down the middle of the field.
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No doubt, but at least it will be sticking out in Stoops mind all the more this week.
And apparently I can’t type english at work.
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Anyone hear that Jacory is doubtful this Saturday
Some big players in my area are betting big on FSU bc the fact that Jacory is probably not going to play this weekend. Does anyone know if there is any substance to back this up? On Sportsbook there is no line up for the game.
He's not doubtul. False report
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Listed as probable today on college football live.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
To counter the false report about JH12
today FSU will release that ponders arm fell off….tomorrow’s release will be EJ forgot his play book and was kicked off the team. shortly after a leaked youtube video will surface of greg reid running the spread option against our scout team which will be made up of cheerleaders and FSU’s drumline
Jacory not playing does not help us
By giving us a good game and a measuring stick. This team will only grow through adversity and playing teams like Miami. I’m looking forward to beating them while they are at full strength.
I hate when people talk about beating others teams with no excuses.
Who cares? Any advantage we get for a win is great. I’d rather beat a Miami team with half their starters injured than lose to them at full strength.
yeah, that does us a lot of good to win THAT game.
I’m talking about in the overall scheme. Winning on the road, with them at FULL strength, will do more for us as a team for future experience, confidence and just getting better as a team overall.
I’m all for taking advantage of others misfortunes. But, I want this team to get better. That happens when you play quality opponents.
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