Everyone on the team last year was good ol #(insert number).

not remembering names is unbelievable? And what part about a recruit expecting the head coach of the team recruiting him to know his name is unbelievable? These kids want the programs that are recruiting them to make them feel special. “Part of the family.” What part of making them feel part of the family is not being able to remember their names? Maybe Bobby not knowing their names wasn’t the only reason they chose UF but it didn’t help the cause.

Meyer: Bowden was a great coach once, but he just isn’t the same. He isn’t capable of making FSU a top program. He might even be really losing it.
Mike: Well he couldn’t remember my name or my brothers. Wasn’t confusing us, just couldn’t remember my name. I mean there is two of us that are basically the same person and couldn’t remember either of our names.
Meyer: Exactly. Welcome to the team Mike.

The reason they didn’t go to FSU is because they would not or could not qualify. I have heard often that neither would make it and didn’t qualify until the magical summer at UF where both did, along with Rainey and John Brown (another FSU “decommit”). When I talked to those “in the know” we stopped recruiting Brown because we knew he would never make grades. He did for one year at UF.

Those two were going by other names early on in the recruiting process and then once they decommitted they randomly changed their names and said everyone had it wrong and that their “new” names were their real names. Some crap like that. I could really care less what this kid has to say though. We all know Bowden wasn’t that special “closer” that people liked to think.

I’m also not going to argue that Bobby should have made a visit to Percy. Not sure why it had to be that one day…I never heard that story, but I’m sure you have all the details on how Bowden just blew it.

Back to the Rainy money. I know a manager at a hamburger joint in Lakeland…told me that none of the uf recruits ever had to pay for their meals. Just saying.

well, that and greed. diabetes + greed = wicked combo……as we’ve come to witness. glad that’s over.

I think if you look at when it all started to change, you’ll find that it was right around 98 or a little after that he quit having that drive to compete and wanted to step back. That’s when Bobby stopped knowing the names of the players who weren’t stars, when the recruiting started to slip a little bit, when the excuses started to happen. FSU still had a couple more glory years to come, but it was mostly due to that last great class or two making their way through the ranks before the inertia really reached the field.
Most definitely he was done after the ’99 season. FSU gave him everything he ever wanted after that perfect run. He was given a pile of money and allowed free rein to do whatever wanted with the football team after that-it was his own little fiefdom. And he did. Hiring Jeffy is exhibit A here: He needed an OC and QBs coach afer Richt-he could have had his pick of the whole nation, and he chose Jeffy for OC. And the rest, as they say, is history.

Because it is interesting to hear about some of the things that went on. Im so freaking tired of discussing this shit. This discussion is now up to 100 something comments and it just goes back and forth back and forth back and forth with negative comments about Bobby and a couple defensive comments here and there. Bobby was an amazing coach that brought us from nothing to something and stayed past his time. We suffered because of it, but WHO REALLY CARES ANYMORE?!? I mean honestly, it’s all good now. Jimbo has going in the right direction, our recruiting class last year was sick nasty and this years is shaping up to be even better. Lets just forget about the past and look forward to the bright future that is FSU football. Im not even going to waste my time reading the rest of these posts…

FSU still had an outside shot of the NC game if they won out vs Clemson and UF and those hopes were quickly shot down when FSU looked flat, Dockett got himself kicked out of the game and an ESPN sideline reporter asked him about it and he had no clue his best defensive player was no longer in the game…….

I don’t believe he is senile for a minute. I just believe he had checked out and didn’t want to do it anymore. Like King Lear, he wanted to still be the man in the big chair but have everyone else doing all of his work for him. In both cases, the result was absolutely disastrous.
There are things that a HC needs to be doing, and if he had kept doing them, we’d have been on top for even longer than we were. But Bowden got tired of every aspect of coaching but the cashing of the fat paychecks. That’s on him, and it always will be.

It’s about having the maturity to move forward.

Bowden was 14-1 against VT at Fsu, and 4-1 while head coach at WV. He owned those turkeys.

but there’s no real reason for one of them to lie about something like this. He’s probably still a little bitter about it, and when asked, that’s just his response.

have known this very thing for years.

we may be in trouble

Maybe the best of uses. In fact, that payout may be the best money our Boosters have spent in the past decade.

Seriously consider this prospect in your mind:
We don’t shell out the money=Head-Coach-in-Waiting Jeff Bowden

Darling was huge though. Happened during mat drills which were never the same, lost his twin brother to transfer (two stud starters) and really halted the coaching style we had. You could see a slower and weaker product the very next season.

With enough years and a new coach I see the kids being coached “up” like in the old days.

To tell the truth, I’m not sure he wasn’t wrong if Demps was in the wrong type of offense, but still…that type speed shouldn’t be turned down.

Water under the bridge. Apparently ALL coaches make mistakes.