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Blatant disrespect!!!!

Am I just drinking the kool-aid? I know Gs are usually the least valued O-linemen, but geez.....

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by freshcollegeboy on Dec 1, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

late first early second that is

3rd is just ridiculous

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by freshcollegeboy on Dec 1, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I think 1st is more ridiculous than 3rd.

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by tricknole on Dec 1, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Why so?

Tell em FSU is coming and hell is coming with us!

by Jamil Dawson on Dec 1, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

This.

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by SteadfastNole on Dec 1, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I could see

him falling to the 2nd round in a worst-case (and extremely unlikely) scenario. 3rd round is just stupid.

Where's Dan Kendra when you need him?

by GregJones on Nov 30, 2010 5:54 PM EST reply actions  

No way he goes 3rd round

OG may not be glamorous but the work ethic and reliability he possesses are worth their weight in gold.
I’m sure his combine will bump his draft stock up too.

by 06N0LE on Nov 30, 2010 6:39 PM EST reply actions  

Its hard to argue against Wisconsin and USC not having 1st round talent

But BYU and Colorado were garbage this year; and there pass/run blocking was not as efficent as SI makes it seem. Derrok Sherrod IS the best lineman in America, but Hudson is a first rounder.

by CCDFSU07 on Nov 30, 2010 6:42 PM EST reply actions  

Not sure if he'll go first round, but

I’d bet he is the first OG drafted.

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by Gripper on Nov 30, 2010 6:50 PM EST reply actions  

Exactly

Everyone ahead of him on this list is a tackle. As far as center or guard prospects, he’s top 3.

by timephone on Nov 30, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

He's not even expected to win the top interior lineman award this year I thought?

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by tricknole on Nov 30, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

He's small for an NFL guard, but

He more than makes up for it with his strength and technique. If there’s a team out there with a #1 need of OG, not sure how you could choose anyone else ahead of him.

Only thing that could drop his stock is if he’s asked to move to center. Has he ever played the position before?

by FSUActuary on Nov 30, 2010 7:43 PM EST reply actions  

I bet he is 290+ by the time the NFL Combine rolls around.

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by DRusso97 on Nov 30, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

He needs to play center in the NFL imo.

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by tricknole on Nov 30, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I see no reason why he can't do that. Olin Kreutz with better athleticism.

Does anyone doubt the mental aspect of his game after 4 years starting? he will get a chance to play C at the all star games I think…

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by DRusso97 on Dec 1, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Funny that you mention Kreutz

I’m a huge Bears fan and I hope we draft Rodney. He’s a definite upgrade at guard and could move to center when Kreutz is gets too old.

by Pre on Dec 4, 2010 4:05 AM EST up reply actions  

My sentiments exactly

Did you ever even play the game? I guarantee I can coach my Little League team to beat yours 10 times out of 10.

by Caveman Mafia on Nov 30, 2010 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Most years

all the first round OL picks are tackles. As tuckwell pointed out, only a few teams run zone block schemes. Add in that Hudson is short for an NFL lineman. Would someone please name the last college offensive guard who listed at 6-2 or under who ended up going in the first round? first two rounds even?

Last year a 6-5 330 lb guard went in the first round, the first guard to go in the first round since 2007. I went through the last 25 drafts and found no guard taken in the first round under 6-3.

Third round should not shock anyone here. Still, mid to late second round would seem more probable.

by Wild@Heart Nole on Nov 30, 2010 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Davin Joseph

has been listed as 6-2 in some locations, but 6-3 in most places.

Here’s a guess, John Hannah (1973)?

The last guard to go into the HOF was McDaniel, I think, listed as 6-3.

That’s a really interesting point.

by IndyFSUnole on Nov 30, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

It was Petey Perot

1979 Eagles, 2nd Round.

Didn’t mean to make this two posts— accident.

by IndyFSUnole on Nov 30, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Skins don't have a third at this point

They might trade back in the first and pick up some additional picks, or trade players before the draft, but right now they don’t have a pick in that round, unfortunately :(

by tuckwell on Dec 1, 2010 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Most have Pouncey as the first interior lineman picked

with Hudson next in line

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by freshcollegeboy on Dec 1, 2010 12:36 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah, and don't get his name wrong,

or he’ll be crying about it for at least 5 years.

by IndyFSUnole on Dec 1, 2010 8:02 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

He’ll be a guard in the NFL, not center.

by tuckwell on Dec 1, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

He'll be drafted as a guard

He’s a fine pick, I just don’t think he’s as good as Hudson.

by Pre on Dec 4, 2010 4:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Late Second

Is my guess. He’s a small, zone scheme’d Guard. Pouncey will be taken over him, as well as like 4 Tackles.

by MasterWolf on Dec 1, 2010 1:09 AM EST reply actions  

Not doubting his talent, but he is small

I looked up the weights of all of the guards on active NFC rosters who have a last name starting from A to McDonald (there are 34 of these, I think this sample represents the guards in the NFL pretty well). The average weight is 318.09, the standard deviation is 15.2. The range is from 358 to 290. At 282 he is 2.37 standard deviations below the mean. If he bulks up to 304 it would make him the third smallest out of that group of 34.
He is athletic, but, now, so are most of the big guards in the NFL. A lot of the NFL drafts on measurables, unfortunately for him, his are not great.

by cal8 on Dec 1, 2010 7:02 AM EST reply actions  

Part of what makes a zone blocking scheme attractive is you don't need to burn draft picks early on linemen

I think Rodney will have a great career but anything earlier then 3rd is probably a bit of reach due to his size or lack of game reps at Center. If he played center at FSU he would be a surefire 2nd round pick if not late first.

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by CJNole on Feb 14, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Great Points Brought Up

about size & blocking scheme

Thanks for all the input

by BostonNole on Dec 1, 2010 3:59 PM EST reply actions  

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