Noles Crush Hatters
Stetson was a team the Seminoles should have handled easily, and they did, cruising to a 97-63 win. After a sluggish 6-6 start, the Noles used a 36-13 run to break the game open. Chris Singleton led five Seminoles in double digits with 17 points. Xavier Gibson had a nice game with 12 pts and 8 boards, and Jon Kreft, in his first D1 game, added 6 points and 6 boards. Kreft was aggressive, passed the ball well, but clearly needs to work on finishing his shots as much smaller players were able to disrupt him (via fouling). He also was winded after 3-4 minute stretches, which is to be expected. Practice isn't a good substitute for game time in terms of conditioning.
In a game in which the refs wanted some attention, the teams combined for 75 free throw attempts (48 by FSU). An aggressive Terrance Shannon led the way with 11 free throw attempts, and Jon Kreft had 10. The game was also played at a high tempo (79 possessions) and the Noles only turned it over 13 times (16.4%). This combination of aggressive interior play and good ball handling is the recipe for Noles success. The question is whether or not they can sustain it.
Only the trio of Singleton, Gibson and Michael Snaer logged at least 20 minutes, so clearly the coaches viewed this as a tune up game. In all, 15 players logged minutes. Ian Miller, however, was not one of them, and there's no answer yet as to why he didn't play.
Okaro White, it should be noted, played a very good game. Though his boxscore was somewhat impressive - 12 pts, 1 board, 1 steal, 1 assist, 1 block - he really demonstrated a great feel for the game tonight with several subtle ball fakes and great footwork. Now that Kreft is playing we have four newcomers who are making a mark.
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Thanks for the write up.
Wasn’t able to watch the game. I expected to be Stetson but didn’t expect it to be done in the sound manner it was.
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Anyone who watched the game.
If you could comment on how Kreft played, I’d appreciate it. Thanks
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman
Wasn't there but watched it on TV
Kreft really did play very aggressively in tune with what I saw at Chipola. On one play after a Stetson bucket he was trotting back to his offensive position and around the free throw line it looked like his and the other center’s eyes met and they just started towards each other. Right before they hit Kreft turned his body like he was boxing out at just drilled the guy with his hip, and it noticeably affect the other guy. He also had very active hands tonight but did pick up 4 fouls.
Offensively, I believe Kreft only had about 7-8 quality touches where he actually was able to do something with the ball. But of those 7-8 times, he was very aggressive and Stetson had no answer and Kreft was fouled 7 times and was only able to put up one legitimate hook shot that rolled out. His pass was noticeably crisper than what I remember, he even put a no-looker into James face right under the basket. James however, did not see it coming and it bounced off his chest and into a scrum which FSU luckily came up with. Also he was 6-10 from the line.
Defensively, Kreft was once again extremely physical down low. He really did maintain excellent position at all times and showed very good footwork. The TV announcers mentioned multiple times how Kreft was able to maintain positive leverage and was able to use his body to create rebound opportunities, something FSU sorely needed out of Alabi last year. I don’t believe Kreft blocked any shots, but he altered a ton and Stetson could not do much inside with him in the game, but that could just be because it was Stetson. Stetson had two centers of note, one built like a slightly frailer Kreft, and one built like the obese customer who goes to all-you-can eat restaurants to clean house. Seriously, the guy was like a lumbering mastadon. Kreft dealt with each guy very differently, just destroying the smaller guy with his size and weight, and with the fat one he used his quickness and footwork to win both the one on one and the rebounding battle.
One thing I noticed was 3 or 4 times FSU was going down the court transitioning into their offense, you would all of a sudden see Kreft streak towards the open basket with his hand up looking for the alley-oop. It was fairly subtle, but it looked like once Kreft saw the defense wasn’t paying attention he made his move. Loucks saw him once late but didn’t attempt it. Look for this in the future because Kreft was really known for that at Chipola, the kid can fly.
Oh, and the combination of Jon Kreft and Bernard James on the floor was fantastic. Both guys were physical tonight and Stetson could not focus on both at the same time so they chose Kreft. Jon would get the ball, James would streak in, receive the pass from Kreft in the open lane and get fouled on his was to the slam.
Overall, Kreft played about 12-15 minutes. He is definitely not in game-ready shape, but can be quite a force when he is not winded and that will be fixed after a couple weeks.
Ira Schoffel tweeted this about Kreft during the game
All kidding aside, Jon Kreft can change everything for FSU. Does so many little things well … really eager to see this team in January.
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by freshcollegeboy on Dec 16, 2010 2:41 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
rec'd for use of 'lumbering mastadon'
well played…
Pulled down a VERY strong rebound late in the game.
Between two guys, I think he only got it with one hand but managed to rip it down despite both of their attempts. Honestly, that might have been the most encouraging thing I saw. (Not to diminish everything else, but he does indeed look the part of a strong, physical rebounder — in addition to all the other positives mentioned.)
I’d say he lived up to his billing, from my perspective. Our season outlook has indeed changed.
He looked to be the most physical
player FSU has had in a long time. One play White had open space to hit a one handed floater but it was Kreft standing by the paint and boxing out two guys giving White a wide open look. Very impressive.
Kreft=Prison strong.
But he was getting winded. He gets that worked out, he will be a hell of a player.
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by onebarrelrum on Dec 16, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Someone please sort this out for me:
chimpanzee >? prison >? old man >? kountry >? {mentally disabled} strong?
Who's "old man strong"?
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"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
"Thanks tricknole!"
Just wondering who you had seen it used on recently.
I know DRusso used most of those the other day. Then the prison one now. Couldn’t place the old man one. If you just threw it in there for effect, then carry on.
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"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
"Thanks tricknole!"
Old man strength has been around for a long time.
The last time I can cite it from a media source was about Cor(e)y Surrency when he came in… don’t remember who said it about him. But I think of G.A.M. as an offshoot of old man strength, to some degree.
“Country” strong is a time-tested one as well. The others, most recently referenced by DRusso, as you mention, are somewhat new to me, but make sense. Felt there should be some consensus on order of magnitude, you know?
I totally understood you wanting to order them.
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"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
"Thanks tricknole!"
You have to earn 'old man strong'
Trickett would be old man strong. Dude could give bradham a run for his money at arm wrestling
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by SteadfastNole on Dec 16, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
13 turnovers is quite the accomplishment for this team.
Now, you could say that it was just Stetson, but the Noles had 26 TO’s vs. Hartford, a team that, like Stetson, is not a member of any BCS conference I am aware of.
Now, let’s see what Kreft can do when the competition ramps up.
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FYI-the Orlando Sentinel write-up on the game also did not have any info on Miller, other than
the obvious fact that he did not play.
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If Miller was held out due to injury...wouldnt that be posted?
I think Kreft can be a difference maker in this season. Gibson can score and Kreft can bang—good combo. Kreft and James on the floor at same time—bumps and bruises for the other team.
Still wondering about Miller, hopefully jusy an anomaly.
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by BigSpearDiplomacy on Dec 16, 2010 8:28 AM EST up reply actions
I would think if it was an injury, it would have been posted.
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Hopefully it was just a broken team rule
and that 1 game was his punishment from LH
That would suck...
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by onebarrelrum on Dec 16, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
Coach's decision.
No way he’s failed out in 1 semester. How many times have we seen random guys sitting in the fall semester for skipping a class or something. This is vintage LH laying down the law.
You're probably right, but it is definitely possible
to be ineligible after only 1 semester: “All student-athletes must earn a minimum of six hours each term to be eligible the next semester.” Means you need at least two Ds to stay eligible. It would take a Bluto-like effort to get that, though.
FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.
A lot of turnovers
Are sloppy play and self-inflicted. Not always the pressure by the other team.
by CelticPride on Dec 16, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Speaking of which, did Stetson press us or run a zone much?
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"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
"Thanks tricknole!"
I really wanted that 100
I loved seeing the 2nd string trying there best to get to it.. too bad nothing fell.
did they not try for a couple 2's?
i read somewhere that they tried to sink 3s for the last 2.5 minutes or so, and maybe my math is hazy, but im pretty sure 2+2=4, and 4>3, so that would mean 101, and 101>100.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Yeah, they kept chucking up 3s like it was going to be the last possession for quite some time...
but the game got extended by some quick shots/fouls/etc… so they ended up having about 4 chances to get to 100 via the 3. Lots of good looks, but too nervous to hit it.
#KreftFacts
We’ve waited 4 years to see him, but in Kreft time is more like a blink.
Jon Kreft was a two ton man-mountain who could palm a medicine ball.
Kreft is not measured in time.
Jon Kreft was arrested in 06 for testing out the capabilities of putting his foot up opponents’ asses.
Jon Kreft has just been named HCIW.
Jon Kreft was held out of the first semester because he was still worn out from plugging the oil spill.
Kreft is the player on the nba logo.
Jon Kreft’s shadow was voted NBA Sixth Man of the Year from 2004-2009.
Kreft once hit a GW 3 …from Doak.
They tried to create a Jon Kreft Award, but his likeness is worshiped in 27 countries and a new sculpture would be sacrilegious.
Kreft is never in the paint. The paint runs the other way.
Jon Kreft never gets a 3-second call because time stops just to watch Kreft work his game in the paint.
If you google Kreft, it says “Kreft will find you”.
Jon Kreft originally took his talents to the University of Atlantis. You know what happened.
Jon Kreft once led the Washington Generals to an undefeated season.
Every time Tim Tebow cries, it’s because he thought he saw Jon Kreft.
by basaltrock on Dec 16, 2010 9:30 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
(voice of flava flav)
“WOOOOOOOOWWW”
by NOLEisticscience on Dec 16, 2010 10:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I would revise, only slightly:
This was also the first game where Shannon looked like an orc AND a basketball player.
I believe he still sent his fair share of man-flesh flying around.
(And even though “man-flesh” is a direct Lord of the Rings reference, I’ll go ahead and drop the preemptive TWSS)
James took a hit to the head that required stitches, his comment...
James, a former Air Force Sergeant, joked about getting stitches after the game: “I had three tours of duty in Iraq without a scratch and ten games here and I get this.”
Gripper
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I really liking James
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Also said Kreft is the strongest player he's ever played against.
That’s a pretty profound statement coming a couple weeks after he played the 30-40 year old oxen that Ohio State trotted out into the post.
by arrdub on Dec 16, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
25 years old, prior military
If I had a daughter I’d want her to marry him
FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.
Guy is lucky as hell.
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"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
"Thanks tricknole!"
I don't want to get anyone excited, but I just checked KenPom, and this team has
shot up to #312 in the country in turnover % from like #329 before the game. Lipscomb is one spot ahead of us, and to me, passing Lipscomb in turnover percentage is all the motivation this team should need Saturday night. LATE, Saturday night.
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