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Noles Crush Hatters

Stetson was a team the Seminoles should have handled easily, and they did, cruising to a 97-63 win.  After a sluggish 6-6 start, the Noles used a 36-13 run to break the game open.  Chris Singleton led five Seminoles in double digits with 17 points.  Xavier Gibson had a nice game with 12 pts and 8 boards, and Jon Kreft, in his first D1 game, added 6 points and 6 boards.  Kreft was aggressive, passed the ball well, but clearly needs to work on finishing his shots as much smaller players were able to disrupt him (via fouling).  He also was winded after 3-4 minute stretches, which is to be expected.  Practice isn't a good substitute for game time in terms of conditioning.

In a game in which the refs wanted some attention, the teams combined for 75 free throw attempts (48 by FSU).  An aggressive Terrance Shannon led the way with 11 free throw attempts, and Jon Kreft had 10.  The game was also played at a high tempo (79 possessions) and the Noles only turned it over 13 times (16.4%).  This combination of aggressive interior play and good ball handling is the recipe for Noles success.  The question is whether or not they can sustain it.

Only the trio of Singleton, Gibson and Michael Snaer logged at least 20 minutes, so clearly the coaches viewed this as a tune up game.  In all, 15 players logged minutes.  Ian Miller, however, was not one of them, and there's no answer yet as to why he didn't play.

Okaro White, it should be noted, played a very good game.  Though his boxscore was somewhat impressive - 12 pts, 1 board, 1 steal, 1 assist, 1 block - he really demonstrated a great feel for the game tonight with several subtle ball fakes and great footwork.  Now that Kreft is playing we have four newcomers who are making a mark.

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Thanks for the write up.

Wasn’t able to watch the game. I expected to be Stetson but didn’t expect it to be done in the sound manner it was.

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
"Thanks tricknole!"

by tricknole on Dec 16, 2010 12:51 AM EST reply actions  

Anyone who watched the game.

If you could comment on how Kreft played, I’d appreciate it. Thanks

Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman

by CornNole on Dec 16, 2010 1:09 AM EST reply actions  

Pulled down a VERY strong rebound late in the game.

Between two guys, I think he only got it with one hand but managed to rip it down despite both of their attempts. Honestly, that might have been the most encouraging thing I saw. (Not to diminish everything else, but he does indeed look the part of a strong, physical rebounder — in addition to all the other positives mentioned.)

I’d say he lived up to his billing, from my perspective. Our season outlook has indeed changed.

by arrdub on Dec 16, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

He looked to be the most physical

player FSU has had in a long time. One play White had open space to hit a one handed floater but it was Kreft standing by the paint and boxing out two guys giving White a wide open look. Very impressive.

Kreft=Prison strong.

But he was getting winded. He gets that worked out, he will be a hell of a player.

FSU Football, making bad teams look bad since 2010.

by onebarrelrum on Dec 16, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone please sort this out for me:

chimpanzee >? prison >? old man >? kountry >? {mentally disabled} strong?

by arrdub on Dec 16, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Who's "old man strong"?

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
"Thanks tricknole!"

by tricknole on Dec 16, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Just wondering who you had seen it used on recently.

I know DRusso used most of those the other day. Then the prison one now. Couldn’t place the old man one. If you just threw it in there for effect, then carry on.

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
"Thanks tricknole!"

by tricknole on Dec 16, 2010 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Old man strength has been around for a long time.

The last time I can cite it from a media source was about Cor(e)y Surrency when he came in… don’t remember who said it about him. But I think of G.A.M. as an offshoot of old man strength, to some degree.

“Country” strong is a time-tested one as well. The others, most recently referenced by DRusso, as you mention, are somewhat new to me, but make sense. Felt there should be some consensus on order of magnitude, you know?

by arrdub on Dec 16, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I totally understood you wanting to order them.

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
"Thanks tricknole!"

by tricknole on Dec 17, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

You have to earn 'old man strong'

Trickett would be old man strong. Dude could give bradham a run for his money at arm wrestling

"Kill a fly with an axe"

by SteadfastNole on Dec 16, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

13 turnovers is quite the accomplishment for this team.

Now, you could say that it was just Stetson, but the Noles had 26 TO’s vs. Hartford, a team that, like Stetson, is not a member of any BCS conference I am aware of.

Now, let’s see what Kreft can do when the competition ramps up.

"Hey, Moose! Rocco! Help the judge find his checkbook, will ya?"

by GoNolzOhio on Dec 16, 2010 8:06 AM EST reply actions  

FYI-the Orlando Sentinel write-up on the game also did not have any info on Miller, other than

the obvious fact that he did not play.

"Hey, Moose! Rocco! Help the judge find his checkbook, will ya?"

by GoNolzOhio on Dec 16, 2010 8:07 AM EST up reply actions  

If Miller was held out due to injury...wouldnt that be posted?

I think Kreft can be a difference maker in this season. Gibson can score and Kreft can bang—good combo. Kreft and James on the floor at same time—bumps and bruises for the other team.
Still wondering about Miller, hopefully jusy an anomaly.

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by BigSpearDiplomacy on Dec 16, 2010 8:28 AM EST up reply actions  

That would suck...

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by onebarrelrum on Dec 16, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Coach's decision.

No way he’s failed out in 1 semester. How many times have we seen random guys sitting in the fall semester for skipping a class or something. This is vintage LH laying down the law.

by arrdub on Dec 16, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

You're probably right, but it is definitely possible

to be ineligible after only 1 semester: “All student-athletes must earn a minimum of six hours each term to be eligible the next semester.” Means you need at least two Ds to stay eligible. It would take a Bluto-like effort to get that, though.

FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.

by ricobert1 on Dec 16, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Black Bluto

what, ive been fired?

FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.

by ricobert1 on Dec 16, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

A lot of turnovers

Are sloppy play and self-inflicted. Not always the pressure by the other team.

by CelticPride on Dec 16, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of which, did Stetson press us or run a zone much?

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
"Thanks tricknole!"

by tricknole on Dec 16, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I really wanted that 100

I loved seeing the 2nd string trying there best to get to it.. too bad nothing fell.

by ajm05j on Dec 16, 2010 8:40 AM EST reply actions  

did they not try for a couple 2's?

i read somewhere that they tried to sink 3s for the last 2.5 minutes or so, and maybe my math is hazy, but im pretty sure 2+2=4, and 4>3, so that would mean 101, and 101>100.

"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody

by nole07 on Dec 16, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, they kept chucking up 3s like it was going to be the last possession for quite some time...

but the game got extended by some quick shots/fouls/etc… so they ended up having about 4 chances to get to 100 via the 3. Lots of good looks, but too nervous to hit it.

by arrdub on Dec 16, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I would revise, only slightly:

This was also the first game where Shannon looked like an orc AND a basketball player.

I believe he still sent his fair share of man-flesh flying around.

(And even though “man-flesh” is a direct Lord of the Rings reference, I’ll go ahead and drop the preemptive TWSS)

by arrdub on Dec 16, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

James took a hit to the head that required stitches, his comment...
James, a former Air Force Sergeant, joked about getting stitches after the game: “I had three tours of duty in Iraq without a scratch and ten games here and I get this.”

Gripper

Tommyhawk Nation: Bobby Bowden is the all-time ACC leader in conference titles, conference wins, total wins, winning percentage, bowl appearances & wins and owns the longest conference winning streak.

by Gripper on Dec 16, 2010 10:53 AM EST reply actions  

I really liking James

Gripper

Tommyhawk Nation: Bobby Bowden is the all-time ACC leader in conference titles, conference wins, total wins, winning percentage, bowl appearances & wins and owns the longest conference winning streak.

by Gripper on Dec 16, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Also said Kreft is the strongest player he's ever played against.

That’s a pretty profound statement coming a couple weeks after he played the 30-40 year old oxen that Ohio State trotted out into the post.

by arrdub on Dec 16, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

25 years old, prior military

If I had a daughter I’d want her to marry him

FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.

by ricobert1 on Dec 16, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Guy is lucky as hell.

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
"Thanks tricknole!"

by tricknole on Dec 16, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't want to get anyone excited, but I just checked KenPom, and this team has

shot up to #312 in the country in turnover % from like #329 before the game. Lipscomb is one spot ahead of us, and to me, passing Lipscomb in turnover percentage is all the motivation this team should need Saturday night. LATE, Saturday night.

"Hey, Moose! Rocco! Help the judge find his checkbook, will ya?"

by GoNolzOhio on Dec 16, 2010 11:11 AM EST reply actions  

+100 TN points for anyone bringing a sign that says "LIPSCOMB, WE'S COMIN 4 YA!"

Note: TN points are redeemable for

  • Bud taking your side in argument
  • A used copy of The Great Gatsby
  • F-16 fighter jet (1 billion points required)

FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.

by ricobert1 on Dec 16, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

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