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Nice stuff FSUn

Not sure how you leaped from spread option to cover 3, but I digress. Forget it I will just comment on both things.

1. Spread option-Our problem last year with any spread option plays including the ones from Florida was our discipline. If you don’t have everyone covering their assignments and gaps then you will get burnt all day long by an option team. Last year we also ran into 2 teams who are led by coaches in the top tier of teams running and innovating the spread option.Those teams are Florida and Georgia Tech. Not good when you have an archaic defense with un-disciplined players. Luckily for us there are more spread offenses in the Pac 10 then there are in the ACC and I expect Stoops has packages to defend that offense.

2. Cover 3- I suspect we will see a cover 3 set next year and probably run out of a 3-4 base. What I’m most interested in though is the blitz sets coming out of a formation such as this. Cover 3 is used a lot as a blitzing package underneath. Last year our blitzes looked ill-timed and badly managed. Maybe Stoops will bring in some new blitz packages that can be used effectively by our defense.

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by 1newplayer on Feb 23, 2010 10:37 AM EST reply actions  

1. Completely agree. Last year everyone always overpursued and didn’t keep their gap assignments. The also lost leverage on the edge almost every play. Hernandez MURDERED us in the UF game. It was fascinating to watch a disciplined defense (Alabama) defend that bread and butter play in the SEC championship game.

2. From what I’ve been reading (mostly on TN), Stoops is going to run mostly a base 4-3 D and he doesnt blitz very often. I think he’s hoping for pressure from the line and that the scheme will produce coverage sacks.

by BostonNole on Feb 23, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

A 4-3 you mean?

Stoops is a 4-3 guy mostly

I hated our old blitz schemes. They were awful in their execution

by Bud Elliott on Feb 23, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah yeah 4-3...typing fast

and I agree our old blitzes were awful in timing and execution.

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by 1newplayer on Feb 23, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Against GT I do not think the defense being "archaic" was the problem

They changed the looks the last two years against GT and it did not matter. The old defenses at FSU that did well faced option teams. Those were some of the biggest games.

 Schemes cost the defense last year, but in some cases, like with GT they just flat out beat our defensive players. They were stronger and faster. I think the improved recruiting and conditioning will be more important in that regard than schemes.

I say this because I have noticed If you have guys that can disrupt the line of scrimmage it can mess up offensive plays whether it be a spread option, triple option, pro style offense, etc. I believe Miami was able to get pressure and take away the dive from GT. Then they knew GT had to pitch outwards. That definitely helps. Even when Andrews had guys clogging the middle GT was still able to do the dive against FSU. That is not scheme. That is just a whooping.

by nolestuff on Feb 23, 2010 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

I completely disagree with GT being stronger and faster

that was one of the games in which our scheme and poor technique coaching showed the worst! In fact, Johnson described how he made one adjustment and FSU never changed anything the rest of the game!

by Bud Elliott on Feb 23, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You can't simply tell your LB's to go out and make plays, specially against the option

Your LB’s and DL have to be very disciplined and stick to their assignments. If one player misses his key or his assignment that’s all it takes to give up an 80yd TD or five.

by BS37FSU on Feb 25, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Poor technique coaching

I understand. I think that along with physical ability are what make schemes get praised or criticized often times. If the technique of the defensive players had been good, maybe the schemes would have looked better. Miami did not look like it was doing much fancy on defense, but it physically man handled GT up the gut. I remember FSU using boring schemes against Nebraska and other option teams previously with success.

by nolestuff on Feb 23, 2010 6:03 PM EST reply actions  

GTech was physically one of the worst teams we played

Nebraska’s option is not the same as GTech’s option because of the run-n-shoot elements and the multi-lateral pursuit required.

GTech was the game in which we were most outschemed IMO.

by Bud Elliott on Feb 23, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

hernandez from UF killed us with that play and is the top play in uf’s playbook…..bama was the only team that stopped it (go figure)

by themonsta15 on Feb 23, 2010 7:24 PM EST reply actions  

South Carolina

did manage to stop it. As a Carolina alum I wished all last season FSU could have Carolina’s Defense. Such a waste to have Carolina with that great a Defense (and no offense) and FSU with their great Offense (and NO defense) both on UF’s schedule.

Wished we could turn ’em into one team and monkey stomp them lizards.

Oh well …

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by TexNole on Feb 24, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

all with bigger defensive players to collapse the tackles and lb’s that know gap assignments

by themonsta15 on Feb 23, 2010 8:39 PM EST reply actions  

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