Defending the Shovel-Option play
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6 months ago
Bud Elliott
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Stoops teaches his corners to squeeze the post, and his Free to rob the dig in his “cover 3”.
Stoops talks about cover 3 being a 7 man coverage principle (four man rush). He DOES however, mention that he packages his cover 3 with man/man free so that the offense has to respect the potential of pressure
And when they run a good skinny post route stemming from the bottom of the numbers???
Answer: The safety wrecks his a$$! What coverage are we talking about? What are your underneath defenders doing? Defending the post is as much about what the underneath defenders are doing as is the corner. In cover 4 our safety should be there to wreck that, and in cover 3 our corner will run w/it unless he gets a wheel threat (much like Stoops teaches) and passes it off to the fs. The lb’s underneath have GOT to make that ball be thrown high or it’s a completion vs. darn near most zone coverages. That is why so many people’s favorite route is the post. The post puts most covereages at a disadvantage b/c it is an easy throw and it traverses through at least 2 zones meaning there are some transitions to be made.
Philosophy
A. Great run defense for one back sets. (All gaps are accounted for)
B. Gives a pressure look to QB (makes him honor pressure)
C. Must bring pressure and change up coverage from alignment
Alignment
• Corners- line up outside eyeshade, tight to the WR one or two yards off from the receiver.
• Rover and Sam- lines up on inside eye of the #2 receiver. Plays 1-3 yards off receiver depending if they are pressing or not.
• Free Safety- lines up 12 yards splitting the two widest threats
Corners-
• Play a Press Technique.
• Press Technique- Open step just before the snap (corners need to try to time the snap), eyes are looking in, they open step will create a ½ turn so the corner is looking at #2 and #1 at the same time. Corners outside shoulder are now on WR’s outside shoulder. Next they will cross over and run. Corner should have a 3 yard cushion, they will mirror the WR’s feet and if they need to use the hands they can (vs. Out and Up)
• Play Post and Go first- they will run with any Post or Go routes unless they see a wheel by the #2. If they see a Wheel they will split the two deep routes so they can play both. This is the only time they come of the post.
• Vs. Boot action the corners cut off any Post routes
• Vs. Trips they play the same techniques, away from trips the corner has the deep routes for ½ the field.
• If #1 on your side runs a square in you will gain depth and look to cut off a backside post
Flat Players (Rover and Sam)-
• Do not allow quick seam routes. They use a bump technique and try to re-route the receiver to the outside. When re-routing to the outside your eyes should work out towards #1 looking to take away the smash route
• Bump Technique- eyes are on the WR’s waist. On the snap give some ground and mirror the WR. Take an open step the direction the WR is going. Don’t allow the WR’s hips to clear your hips. Feet open 1st, Hips open 2nd, and Opposite hand is last.
• Make #2 take you to the flat, if not protect the seam.
• If you are pressing the receiver and lose the guy to the outside, flip the hips and try to slap the hands and use a wedge technique to get back with his hips.
Free Safety-
• The Safety will make all plays 3 yards inside of each hash. Unless #1 runs a square in to his side.
• Safety is an aggressive run player
• Eyes go to the twins side first because it is a more dangerous pass threat.
• If #2 runs a wheel gain depth and look to play a post by #1
• If #1 runs a square in on the twins side they will jump the pattern
• Vs. any boot action the Free will close on any crossing routes.
• Vs. Trips the Free with have the ¼ on the side of trips.
Inside Linebackers (Mac and Will)-
• Once they get a high hat read they will gain depth looking for #1 on their side and get in the vision between #1 and the quarterback. This will help take away the skinny post by #1 with #2 running an out pattern.
• Drop zone is in the line of sight of the seam (Hook to Curl)
by Bud Elliott on Feb 23, 2010 2:45 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
Nice stuff FSUn
Not sure how you leaped from spread option to cover 3, but I digress. Forget it I will just comment on both things.
1. Spread option-Our problem last year with any spread option plays including the ones from Florida was our discipline. If you don’t have everyone covering their assignments and gaps then you will get burnt all day long by an option team. Last year we also ran into 2 teams who are led by coaches in the top tier of teams running and innovating the spread option.Those teams are Florida and Georgia Tech. Not good when you have an archaic defense with un-disciplined players. Luckily for us there are more spread offenses in the Pac 10 then there are in the ACC and I expect Stoops has packages to defend that offense.
2. Cover 3- I suspect we will see a cover 3 set next year and probably run out of a 3-4 base. What I’m most interested in though is the blitz sets coming out of a formation such as this. Cover 3 is used a lot as a blitzing package underneath. Last year our blitzes looked ill-timed and badly managed. Maybe Stoops will bring in some new blitz packages that can be used effectively by our defense.
Striker: "Surely you can't be serious!" Rumack: "I am serious... and don't call me Shirley."
1. Completely agree. Last year everyone always overpursued and didn’t keep their gap assignments. The also lost leverage on the edge almost every play. Hernandez MURDERED us in the UF game. It was fascinating to watch a disciplined defense (Alabama) defend that bread and butter play in the SEC championship game.
2. From what I’ve been reading (mostly on TN), Stoops is going to run mostly a base 4-3 D and he doesnt blitz very often. I think he’s hoping for pressure from the line and that the scheme will produce coverage sacks.
A 4-3 you mean?
Stoops is a 4-3 guy mostly
I hated our old blitz schemes. They were awful in their execution
yeah yeah 4-3...typing fast
and I agree our old blitzes were awful in timing and execution.
Striker: "Surely you can't be serious!" Rumack: "I am serious... and don't call me Shirley."
Against GT I do not think the defense being "archaic" was the problem
They changed the looks the last two years against GT and it did not matter. The old defenses at FSU that did well faced option teams. Those were some of the biggest games.
Schemes cost the defense last year, but in some cases, like with GT they just flat out beat our defensive players. They were stronger and faster. I think the improved recruiting and conditioning will be more important in that regard than schemes.
I say this because I have noticed If you have guys that can disrupt the line of scrimmage it can mess up offensive plays whether it be a spread option, triple option, pro style offense, etc. I believe Miami was able to get pressure and take away the dive from GT. Then they knew GT had to pitch outwards. That definitely helps. Even when Andrews had guys clogging the middle GT was still able to do the dive against FSU. That is not scheme. That is just a whooping.
I completely disagree with GT being stronger and faster
that was one of the games in which our scheme and poor technique coaching showed the worst! In fact, Johnson described how he made one adjustment and FSU never changed anything the rest of the game!
by Bud Elliott on Feb 23, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You can't simply tell your LB's to go out and make plays, specially against the option
Your LB’s and DL have to be very disciplined and stick to their assignments. If one player misses his key or his assignment that’s all it takes to give up an 80yd TD or five.
Poor technique coaching
I understand. I think that along with physical ability are what make schemes get praised or criticized often times. If the technique of the defensive players had been good, maybe the schemes would have looked better. Miami did not look like it was doing much fancy on defense, but it physically man handled GT up the gut. I remember FSU using boring schemes against Nebraska and other option teams previously with success.
GTech was physically one of the worst teams we played
Nebraska’s option is not the same as GTech’s option because of the run-n-shoot elements and the multi-lateral pursuit required.
GTech was the game in which we were most outschemed IMO.
hernandez from UF killed us with that play and is the top play in uf’s playbook…..bama was the only team that stopped it (go figure)
South Carolina
did manage to stop it. As a Carolina alum I wished all last season FSU could have Carolina’s Defense. Such a waste to have Carolina with that great a Defense (and no offense) and FSU with their great Offense (and NO defense) both on UF’s schedule.
Wished we could turn ’em into one team and monkey stomp them lizards.
Oh well …
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