How to comment like a Nole
by PBD on Feb 4, 2010 11:03 PM EST
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Not that anyone wanted my opinion, but I posted most of this as a comment on AC's Chopping Block, and thought that maybe since I spend most of my internet time here, I should post it here as well.
There are certain things that set Nole fans apart from that fans of other programs, and I think some of that has been lost with the fallout from the past 5 or so years. The Bobby Bowden "forced" retirement made a lot of Nole fans very critical of the program and the administration, which is bad, because a lot of the fanbase was already very critical about the prgram and the administration because of Bobby's decisions over the last 9 years.
The point of this isn't to rehash that subject. We all have our opinion of what is/was right and wrong. The point is that a lot of us have acted out of character because of our emotions around the program, and it's coaches. Normally rational people do uncharacteristic things, like leave comments on websites that make Nole fans look bad. I accept the fact that everyone has an opinion, and I respect your right to have an opinion on anything you want to have an opinion about. I just ask this, please think before sharing your opinion.
Here is the comment I left on the Chopping Block:
Tomahawk Nation is awesome. AC is awesome. The Democrat's coverage is good too, most of the time. The rest are hit or miss, some I personally like (Scalp 'em and ChantRant), some I don't care for (not naming any names here).
Point is, you can choose to follow the Noles in different ways, depending on how in depth you would like to get, and how much you can put up with rival team's posters and/or degenerates. All I care about is that you follow the Noles, but also remember that we're all on the same team (with the exception of the obvious posters that seem to flock to every site). We all bleed garnet and gold...okay, maybe you don't bleed gold, but you pee gold, and that's close enough.
Leaving disparaging comments on anyone's blog (or website in general) is pretty lame, especially when you display your ignorance with those posts. I hope that the fans of FSU that actually attended the university wouldn't do that, because that is what sets us apart from the Gators and Canes fans. I know there are some instances where our fans show a complete lack of class, but in general our fans are more civil than most. Hopefully this mindset and tradition will rub off on our Nole brethren who are lacking class, and we can all represent our university and team with dignity, class, and honor.
Take pride in your team, and also the people who cover them, from the worst rip off subscription site to the best free site, whether it is a newspaper or a blog. AC, you do a great job covering the Noles, and most of us really appreciate the work that you do.
Go Noles!
We need to make sure that we respect the outlets covering the Noles, and realize that people consume media in different ways. Some people like getting the details, other prefer to get a high level view of what's going on. Don't assume that everyone has the same level of interest in the Noles that you do. Even on this site, there are people who want all the details, and there are people who just want the latest news.
Over the next couple of years, as our players find increasing success on the field, we're going to have a lot of new Nole fans (aka bandwagon fans). Some will leave in rough times, but some will become lifelong fans, just as many lifelong fans were made during the dynasty years. I almost feel it is our job to teach them how to demonstrate class in cheering on our team to victory.
Please help whenever you see an opportunity to show the Seminole traditions to fellow fans, whether it is our fan or that of another university.
It's a great time to be a Nole! Let's show people what Seminole Nation is all about.
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well said
Lol loved the, bleed garnet, pee gold
Platelets are yellow-ish so you do bleed gold as well.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
"But How will I know limits from lies, if I never try."
by geoffissiffoeg on Feb 5, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Great read
but my HEART is Gold … my pee is yellow!
A Texan humbles himself before God; there the list ends. - Gen. S. Houston
If you're peeing gold, you need to drink some water
Because you’re dehydrated. ;-)
lol seriously though, well said. I completely agree!
Agree... BUT
I think you could have worded your response with a bit less bitterness towards “trolls.” Using that kind of language, to me, sounded like you were lashing out at the guy, not so much extending the olive branch. Just sayin’.
I bleed Garnet and piss Gold.
True
My response wasn’t great. I was already irritable last night, and that came out in my original post. It’s just frustrating to see people leave comments saying things like “you suck, TomahawkNation is the best!!!”
Not saying I disagree with TN being the best. But to post that on AC’s blog is just not right. We link a lot of his articles over here, and it’s poor form to have some of our members leave comments like that.
by PBD on Feb 5, 2010 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
I agree ...
One thing that I’ve always noticed separating us from Florida and Miami fans (especially Florida) was that when we won all the time, we didn’t act like we had never won anything before. By that I mean the majority of our alumni and most of our non-alumni fans that I observed did not act like idiots talking tons of trash and posting disparaging remarks all over the internet. Conversely, that’s exactly how most Florida fans act (and most Miami fans, especially back in the 90s). Thanks for expressing how important it is to be more mature than your rivals and win (or lose) with class.
Every team has jackass fans.
The problem is that it is usually jackasses that go to other fans sites and talk trash. That’s what makes them jackasses. Unfortunately, that’s what other fans see the vast majority of the time. You can’t even read the Miami blogs on the Orlando Sun Sentinel for the Gator fans. I’m sure y’all run across the same problem on boards, too.
I went to the FSU / UAB game rix’s senior year. It was the game after we beat y’all 6 in a row over a 5 year period. I had a buddy with season tickets and he wasn’t going, so I got one of his tickets and went with a mutual friend who was there every game. I wore my Miami t shirt and hat. The fans were really good sports. There was one who behind me who kept saying, “What the fuck is he doing here!”. His buddy finally asked, “What are you gonna say? What CAN you say? They’ve beat us the last 6 times.” The guy just said, “What ’til next year.”. The second guy, said, “There. That’s all you can say.” Everybody was laughing and taking jabs at me in good fun, and they took it good. My buddy said I couldn’t get lost in the stadium. I went to get a drink and he said he could spot me a mile away. I really had a good time there. Granted, th trips to the bathroom were always fun. I’d hear, “You’re in the wron stadium!” I’d naver turn around, just hold up six fingers and keep walking.
My buddy sitting with me said, “If that had been a Gator shirt you had on, it wouldn’t have been as kind.”
by Nole Resurrected on Feb 9, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Your friend was right
But the treatment you’d get wearing a gator shirt isn’t anything like you get in Gainesville wearing a FSU shirt or having FSU tags. The lack of respect for people and property is appalling.
I’ve been to a bunch of games not at FSU, and Clemson and FU are the worst experiences I’ve had.
Act like you've been there
When I went to the Citrus Bowl 2 years ago (UF vs Michigan), I never saw a greater lack of class from the UF fans, especially compared to the way the Michigan fans carried themselves. You can be a rabid fan without being a jerk, vulgar and obscene. Of course, they couldn’t say a word after Michigan kicked their butt!
I am glad to see the majority of FSU fans take that to heart and realize that: it is does matter what you say, how you say it and how you behave.
Glad you touched on this.
I personally think a huge case study could be completed relating strictly to message board etiquette and the instant communication phenomenon and how people manage/accept it. It is so easy to hide and voice an opinion/remark via message boards these days. And with that, it very easy for conversations to be interpreted differently. Everyone has a responsibility to uphold and just not sure it will ever fully get there.
I also feel our fan base is divided and very critical ( i have no other fan base to base this off of btw). This of course is based on message board chatter however I did write a fan post some time ago about how my own family was very divided during the final months of Bobby. In the end Winning is probably going to cure a lot of this division. I touched on change management and how FSU could probably do a better job of managing this as whole. Although his might not be needed now after the coach’s presser the other night. It seems this is going to happen naturally and we fianlly going to learn to win again.
Everyone loves to kick you when your down and I don’t see us being down to much longer.
Some of these fans and I use the term loosely
That show up in places like the Citrus and Gator Bowl follow no particular team, they just happen to buy tickets for the game and exercise their cry for attention with attempts to mortify those around them. You can buy team logo caps at walmart, it doesn’t mean you are an alumni or one of the boosters.
It has always been around and most likely always will be as long as we have football. I am against murder and lying also but realistic about attempts to bring it under control.
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
Let's Lead by Example
I agree with all of this. We are all largely anonymous via our pseudonyms, and for some reason it’s human nature to sometimes act differently when we are behind a mask. But there are plenty of examples that this perceived anonymity is really false. I can honestly say that I’ve never had any desire to post something that I normally would not post if my identity were open. When I see something that I would not personnally post, I choose to assume it is a gator trying to make Seminoles look bad.
One of the reasons I really like TN is that the discussions are in depth and thoughtful, not the typical “so-and-so rules!” or “such-and-such sucks!” This community seems to find that pointless and a waste of time.
On the more general subject of decorum and sportsmanship, it pleases me that it is FSU with the Sportsmanship statue. I’ve long heard that two campuses where visitors are welcomed is TA&M and Nebraska. This past year I read that BYU also welcomes visitors. I hope that someday FSU will have a similar national reputation.
Trust those who seek the truth; doubt those who find it. -Andre Gide
by Tastanagi Tutka Thlako on Feb 6, 2010 12:52 PM EST reply actions
There is a time and place for everything. EVERYTHING
Sometimes someone needs to be put in there place. At the same time there are time when that person that needs to be put into place people need to ignore. There is a time to stand up for what you beleave in and there is a time to take it and deal with it. there is a time to make fun of something (like my spelling) and there is a time to let it go. There is a time for everything. The problem is not about everything its about people. Just because you can get away with it doesnt mean you should. I still try to google/spell check words before I type them just because its ignorance for you to correct me every time but its Ignorance of me to not care if I mis spell all my words.
As for the other people speek your mind but with heart. If you have the knowalge then tell your point if not just wait for sone of the many others to get on read the post, laugh and put the person in there place. when that guy fights back and says something realy dumb like throwing Stats at FSUn that are just wrong. its a great show.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Getting biblical Des.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life...no one gets to the Father but through Me"
Des, that is the most coherent comment I've ever seen from you
Not that you don’t usually have good points….you do, but usually I have to read a couple of times to make sure I understand what you’re trying to say. With time though, I’ve come to read through your comments without trouble, which was a bit surprising when I read through this one, and I thought “Holy cow, I must be getting really good at reading Des’ typing”. Alas, my excitement was premature (pre-emptive that’s what she said), I went back and read the comment again and how well you did typing and using punctuation and capitalization. Maybe it was just a good day for you, but in any event, congrats.
And I didn’t echo everyone else in the other thread, but thanks for your service!
ha ha
Im on new ADHD meds so I see things more and I working of my prof reading. That and google for spell check helps out a lot.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Des, try installing Firefox as you browser. It is free and it has a built in spell checker. Email me if you have any questions. Thanks again, God bless, and try to enjoy Korea as much as possible.
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em
Ill prob get this I used it in Iraq last time and I liked it
I have to get something because my labtop is old and the internet Exp. sucks and dont work right anyhow. Thanks ill try to get it on before I leave.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
PERHAPS this is an appropriate thread to......
point out a few “bloopers” inside what i consider the “best” nole site out there.
1. awhile back a poster had an opinion a moderator didn’t agree with. That moderator said quote"not on my watch" and slammed the guy good.
2. just today a theory was advanced about scheduling( which i as a 30 plus year nole- lover agree with) and another"leader" said something like"i’ve explained this 3 times already, etc, like he was god or something and not infallible.
3. just my opinion, but based on the “lost” decade and the giant steps others have taken, combined with our motto"winning with character" we need to have the testicular fortitude to be able to play anybody, anywhere. Thats how we became FLORIDA STATE!
4. RESPECT for our men serving our country in harms way should in no way interfere with someones"comfort level". sorry…………….9/11 interfered with mine.
t/y, God bless and GO NOLES!
lol testicular fortitude
I agree. I think we could schedule more intelligently but I don’t want to schedule as much cupcakes as possible to get to the NC.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life...no one gets to the Father but through Me"
but I thought we were missing coaches that want to coach and coaches that care more about winning than there records
Maybe it was just me though.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
The way you speak of Florida fans I think is really funny, because we say the same thing about FSU, no offense. I just dont think you realize as the UM fan said every team feels that way about thier rivals. Even I ignorently came here in a rant because a few FSU fans and thier hate for Tebow was rediculous. But as some pointed out there is just as many Gator fans spewing the rediculous stuff about FSU. But the pethetic comments from the few just ruined it for me for the entire fan base. I amagine you feel the same way about the Gators wich is fine but I just think its funny when CFB fans claim thier fans are better then anothers.
PS- I have many FSU friends and we get along fine
"When you argue correctly, you're never wrong."-Nick Naylor
There is always that one...
Seems no matter where ya go there is always that one fan that just ruins it for the rest of his teams fan base. Yet, there is also those fans out there that make a positive influence on their team’s fanbase .
Being in the military i’m always running into different CFB fans and my best friend is a diehard VT fan. Last season him and 3 others decided to come with me to an FSU game. None of them were FSU fans, but 2 out of 3 actually bought FSU shirts for the whiteout game to support the cause. Not to mention them cheering for a team they don’t even follow really showed a lot of sportmanship on their part and to me thats what it’s about.
Paddle faster boys!
I didn't go that far, but you can be respectful.
I’ll never go so far as to wear a rivals t shirt (unless I lost a bet). I’m always as respectful as I can be with present company.
by Nole Resurrected on Feb 18, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
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