Karl Hess is Off My Christmas Card List
by fsu44 on Feb 5, 2010 9:57 AM EST
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First, take a quick look at this article from NCAA Basketball Fanhouse on points of emphasis in the ACC this season.
To sum it up, the article specifically focuses on the zero-tolerance policy for taunting, and in a supreme twist of irony, features comments from none other than Grievez Vasquez, who the author hilariously describes as the player "informally picked as the player most constrained by the new [taunting] rule."
Later in that same article, the author discusses the implementation of the blocking-charging area (akin to the NBA halo).
So, did you skim the article above? Or even open it and close it quickly? Congrats, I suspect you know more about what the ACC officials are supposed to be focusing on than Karl Hess and his crew. Hess has reputation for interjecting himself into games, so much so that ESPN announcers have taken specific on-air exception with his officiating style. Here is a video, and no, I didn't make up the title.
McDonagh, Raftery, and Bilas agree Karl Hess sucks (via coniel)
To be sure, Hess didn't lose the game for Florida State. However, he certainly flexed his "muscles" and flashed his ego, yet again, at the most critical and inappropriate of times. While perhaps creating temporary satisfaction for some of the student section, the projectiles hurled at Hess & company at the end of the game will be something he will carry with him and hold against FSU every time he comes back to Tallahassee.
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Where did this "beer shower" occur?
I was standing right next to the tunnel and didn’t see a drop of beer touch him. Two guys beamed him in the head with free t-shirts (great shots), but aside from that, I didn’t see anything.
You must have had a better view than me. I
It sure looked like cups of liquid were raining down from across the way. Maybe they missed him with that. and it went outside your field of vision. I’ll edit my thoughts accordingly.
as far as whether or not the perp(s) were caught
it seemed like the large security/fsu cop was escorting a kid up the stairs, but again, it was tough to tell from across the way…
No, he was hit with a water bottle and a battery
I saw him drop to one knee. I have heard from people it was a battery, but it was definately a small, hard projectile. Didn’t see any beer either tho, just t shirts at first, then the mainly empty water bottle in the stomach, and a battery in the forehead.
They caught and arrested the kid outside of the stadium.
You don't make that call at the end.
You just don’t.
There are some officials out there that are genuine, decent fellows, that have some odd affection for the purity of the game, coupled with tolerance of a hectic, nomadic lifestyle of hotel-jumping and showers of mass public ire.
Unfortunately, beyond the chosen few, I think these same aspects make it an inevitable self-selection of miscreants, characterized by insecurity-masked-as-raging-egomania — borderline sociopaths — like Hess, Valentine, and co., whose desire to be thought of as important bears itself out in their desperate attempts to gain favor with the “rock star” coaches like K, Gary & Roy Williams, etc.
Our only hope is to attain that same “excellence equity” that Coach K himself aspired to as a young buck up in Durham. Until then, we will continue to be plagued by these toadies that long for the affection of the “cool kids,” whose approving nods are the ultimate fulfillment of their pursuits.
Also, rumor has it that Hess's brother inherited the family business, while all Karl got was an incomplete set of these
You’d be pissed off as well.
The Snaer charge in the first half was worse
(though not when you factor in situation)
The guy took two steps while Snaer was in the air and camped underneath him.
why is no one bringing up
the maryland kid that finds it nessary to wobble like he is trying to shake herpies off himself everytime he drains a three???? You cant control what the refs are gonna do. No matter how tuff the call was its totally unclassy to throw a liquid at the ref. Maybe one should right a fanshot on the proper way to act as a nole fan. We should in no way condone an individual acting like a 3 year old who couldnt get the afternoon snack he wanted. JMO please dont jump all over me!
Thank God for the men and women who stand tall in the night to protect this great country we love so much
by hntdeerliv4noles on Feb 5, 2010 12:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
That seems to be the consensus.
If you look at the Maryland SB Nation site, they all seem to think they got a sweet break on the final charge.
Hess has BEEN the worst official in the conference for years.
And that’s saying a lot, because the ACC has some VERY bad officials. Definitely the worst conference I’ve seen when it comes to officiating.
by seminoleballer on Feb 5, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, I thought FAR worse than the now-infamous charge calls on Snaer, first and
second half versions, was the foul called on I believe Loucks late in the game at the Maryland hoop when the ball was rolling around on the ground. Gave the ball back to Maryland, and I defy anyone to prove the Maryland player had possession.
I should think it would be an interesting psychological study to determine what it is about guys like Hess that cause them to (seemingly instinctively) make calls like he did with less than 20 seconds in the game. I think it would be an utter waste of time to figure out why some loser fans feel the need to throw stuff at the ref in question or anywhere onto the court. The clinical definition is that they are douchebags, and every school/pro sports team has them. For example, I was at a Cleveland Browns game several years ago where a late-game controversial call by the refs ended up in a shower of what appeared to be hundreds of plastic 16-oz beer bottles on to the field.
However, at this point, I don’t care too much about any of that. Because methinks that, due to the coaching “style” of our hoops team’s current leader, FSU is going to be predisposed to end up in situations where a possible charge call determines the victorious side. Methinks a guy like Coach K at Duke actually coaches his players to avoid such scenarios. If your choosen side is poorly coached, so that a player ends up dribbling himself into a corner and then gets a charge call trying to get out of the whole he dug, methinks it aint the refs thats the problem.
Just some thoughts.
There is no way to peace; peace is the way.
On the phantom Loucks call
there wasn’t even a judgement involved. The ball was on the ground and Loucks pulled it toward him and picked it up. My throat hurts from yelling after that one…
my bigger problem
is Ham not working the refs. One reason Duke gets all the calls, in addition to the institutional bias in favor of them, is that rat face is working them already before tip off and doesn’t let up until the final horn (if even then). It really pisses me off to watch him, but I have to give him credit, he is giving his team every chance to win. Ham’s sardonic smile at bad calls probably works the other way. he needs to call TO at the worst calls and go ask the ref to explain what and why he called what he did. Also, in every break and at every opportunity you are in their ear about this or that call or your guys not getting a fair shake.
I hear you
If I was Ham, I would have been all over the officials from the start, complaining about Vasquez and his propensity to shimmy. All three of them should have been watching him when he finally made his 1st three.
The ref got hit in the face with "a bottle of lotion"
I witnessed the kid in cuffs after the game. His father was arguing with police officers who were instructing him to leave the area or risk getting cuffed himself. I then overheard a civic center employee telling another one about the bottle of lotion, a tiny, travel size bottle.
Not that those details really matter. Just thought I’d share.
More importantly: don’t these refs get reviews? Why are they still employed? Perhaps my memory is faulty, but I feel like Hess was on the crew several years ago when we lost at home to GT. I believe it was a team with Jarrett Jack, where a foul was called with less than a second to play and we were up by 1. They hit both free throws to steal the game. I remember their player laughing at the call. Like I said, details may be skewed, but I think I am correct. Regardless, it’s always the worst experience watching a game and even noticing the officials at all.
Isn't it ironic that you are asking that question to "Scalp n Spank."
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em
It wasn't me
I swear. But, Touche. I did catch 2 t-shirts and resisted the urge to hurl ‘em his way. Hey, 9 O’clock tip was late. I had more than a few brews in the system by that point.
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