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Tebow also had the lowest Wonderlic score among the top four quarterback prospects in this year's draft, according to the Post report.

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Dan Marino scored a 16. Brett Favre scored a 22. The two of them own pretty much every QB record worth owning.

Brian Griese scored a 39. He sucks.

It’s not a great indicator of potential as a QB.

What are good indicators, I suspect, are that Tebow can’t read a defense, can’t take snaps under center, and has a fifteen minute windup to deliver passes that’d make Chad Pennington giggle.

by Drew J Jones on Mar 11, 2010 1:43 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Agreed

and as you stated, when you look at things in totality (delivery/,snaps under center etc.) and not in a vacuum (wunderlich) you can build a strong case as to why NOT to think Tebow will be a success in NFL, much less a first rounder.

by SigEpFSU on Mar 11, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

If anything...

…I think his Wonderlic score would tend to overstate his chances of success. That’s a pretty average score. Maybe a bit below. But on almost every other measure (mechanics, etc), I’d rate Tebow well below average.

Wonderlics can be fun, though. For example: Chris Leak scored an 8.

That’s almost impressively stupid.

by Drew J Jones on Mar 11, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too

I cant beleive he scored an 8! Oh and UF people keep trying to proclaim themselves the Harvard of the south…..

by SigEpFSU on Mar 11, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not that easy

though, because you have to get the answers fast.

Maybe that helps determine if you’re a fast thinker, which can be important for a QB.

by ladyjustice on Mar 11, 2010 2:08 PM EST reply actions  

I was an Officer in the Air Force and

You take at test called the AFOQT (Air Force Officer Qualifying Test). Its similar to a Wunderlich type test. The ones that can think fastest and answer correctly under extremely quick times become fighter pilots. The ones that don’t become Communications officers. I was the latter:-)

by SigEpFSU on Mar 11, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Almost true

HAHA I’m an officer also in the AF. I know plenty of people who did worse then I on the AFOQT and still became fighter pilots and I became a missileer. The AFOQT is very small on the pie when it comes to determining pilot slots. Now the BAT test is more compariable, although I know a person who scored a 2 on it, he became a nav.

by DJ82585 on Mar 11, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Also

An Air Force Officer. Interesting that the Wonderlic is similiar to the AFOQT. I did fairly well on it, but thought it was an exceptionally difficult test. Interesting note, here … both my Group Commander and her Husband (Nurse and Tanker pilot) are both Noles. Pretty solid contingent of Air Force Noles up here in Spokane, WA.

A Texan humbles himself before God; there the list ends. - Gen. S. Houston

by TexNole on Mar 11, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I took the wonderlic once online.

It’s not that hard but yeah you got to come up with the answers quick. I wasn’t amazing but was fairly above avg. If you could study for it I’m sure you could do better even

by willdabeast on Mar 11, 2010 2:20 PM EST reply actions  

Interesting

according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, by an NFL personnel man in Paul Zimmerman’s “The New Thinking man’s Guide to Pro Football,” :

Offensive tackles: 26
Centers: 25
Quarterbacks: 24
Guards: 23
Tight Ends: 22
Safeties: 19
Middle linebackers: 19
Cornerbacks: 18
Wide receivers: 17
Fullbacks: 17
Halfbacks: 16

The average scores in other professions look like this:

Chemist: 31
Programmer: 29
Newswriter: 26
Sales: 24
Bank teller: 22
Clerical Worker: 21
Security Guard: 17
Warehouse: 15

by KnoxNole on Mar 11, 2010 4:06 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Interesting there was no mention of D Linemen. I want to stir the pot once again with Bud's claim that

“on the average, D Linemen are not too bright” (paraphrased).

Things have been awfully quiet around here lately and I think it’s a good time for a old fashioned pot stirring.

>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em

by FrankDNole on Mar 11, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

I think Chad Henne scored a 4 or something. How bad can D-linemen be?

by Drew J Jones on Mar 12, 2010 7:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I did a practice test once.

Projected to the mid-30s, if I remember correctly.

Fairly impressive numbers for offensive linemen.

by Drew J Jones on Mar 12, 2010 7:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Does he HAVE to take it?

I wouldn’t take it, if I were him. There doesn’t seem to be an upside to taking it really— what score would make NFL employers say “That guy is smarter than I thought, maybe we should draft him…”

It would seem to be all down side— anything but a perfect, or nearly perfect score would be viewed as somehow inadequate. Even a substantially above average score would be put in a list showing all of those who have scored higher, and nothing positive for him would come out of that.

by IndyFSUnole on Mar 12, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah 8

They don’t call him box of rocks for nothing.

It is interesting that many projected Tebow to be a tight end and 22 was his score. He can make a good bank teller or clerical worker after football but is too bright to be a security guard.

" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."

" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!

The process begins!

by DocHoliday2 on Mar 11, 2010 9:18 PM EST reply actions  

Donovan McNabb 14

Finally found the reason why my Eagles can’t win the SB. What did Vick score?

by fsu2wall on Mar 11, 2010 10:02 PM EST reply actions  

Terry Bradshaw scored a 15.

I don’t think McNabb’s Wonderlic score is the problem.

Romo scored in the high-30s, and I’d take just about any starting QB who isn’t BrittFarr over him.

by Drew J Jones on Mar 12, 2010 7:09 AM EST up reply actions  

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