Preview and Game Thread: NC State Wolfpack vs Florida State Seminoles, 9pm EST
by TrueCubbie on Mar 12, 2010 7:34 PM EST
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N.C. State Wolfpack at Florida St. Seminoles, Mar 12, 2010 9:50 PM EST
Editor's Note: Sorry for the short preview, work has been consuming and this is all I have time for. Sorry it's up so late as well.
Mirroring the ACC regular season, the ACC tournament has already featured a number of upsets: NC State over Clemson, Miami getting two wins and Virginia snapping its losing streak. Tonight, the Seminoles have the opportunity to make up for a serious black mark on their conference schedule. NC State is 4-1 in their last five games including wins over Wake and Clemson. They are playing much better than they had in the middle of conference play. They are happy to play a down temp style of game and play great defense. Like the Seminoles, the Wolfpack's defense is their strength.
Four Factors:
Stats (From Satsheet.com):
| PPG | FG% | FT% | 3P% | RPG | ORPG | DRPG | APG | TPG | SPG | BPG | FPG | ||
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NCSU | 68.0 | 44.1 | 68.7 | 33.6 | 35.2 | 11.6 | 23.6 | 13.8 | 13.2 | 6.4 | 4.6 | 17.9 |
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FSU | 69.0 | 45.7 | 64.9 | 34.2 | 37.9 | 12.5 | 25.4 | 14.1 | 16.7 | 8.4 | 6.3 | 17.8 |
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NCSU Opponents | 65.1 | 42.1 | 66.2 | 31.9 | 35.3 | 12.7 | 22.6 | 11.5 | 13.0 | 7.2 | 3.7 | 18.4 |
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FSU Opponents | 60.2 | 37.2 | 66.9 | 32.5 | 32.7 | 12.4 | 20.3 | 9.6 | 16.1 | 8.0 | 2.4 | 18.7 |
| POS | PPG | PPP | FLR% | Eff | eFG% | TS% | FTR | 2P% | FTP% | 3P% | OR% | DR% | A% | A/T | T% | S% | B% | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
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NCSU | 2117.0 | 66.2 | 1.03 | 52.6 | 102.8 | 49.0 | 52.5 | 37.1 | 55.5 | 20.6 | 23.9 | 34.0 | 65.0 | 56.8 | 1.04 | 20.0 | 9.7 | 8.1 |
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FSU | 2043.0 | 68.1 | 1.01 | 52.7 | 101.4 | 51.2 | 53.9 | 39.0 | 54.6 | 19.8 | 25.6 | 38.2 | 67.1 | 57.0 | 0.85 | 24.5 | 12.3 | 11.3 |
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NCSU Opponents | 2117.0 | 66.2 | 0.98 | 52.5 | 98.4 | 46.3 | 49.6 | 34.4 | 58.3 | 19.7 | 22.0 | 35.0 | 66.0 | 48.6 | 0.88 | 19.7 | 10.9 | 6.8 |
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FSU Opponents | 2043.0 | 68.1 | 0.88 | 46.2 | 88.4 | 43.0 | 46.8 | 33.5 | 47.3 | 20.7 | 32.0 | 32.9 | 61.8 | 46.6 | 0.6 | 23.6 | 11.7 | 4.4 |
Lineups (From Seminoles.com)
NC State
F #15 Scott Wood (7.8 ppg, 2.9 rpg; 31 pts and 7 rebs vs. Florida State, Jan. 12, 2010)
F #23 Tracy Smith (17.0 ppg, 7.7 rpg; 7 pts and 8 rebs vs. Florida State, Jan. 12, 2010)
F #31 Dennis Horner (11.8 ppg, 4.8 rpg; 8 pts and 1 ast vs. Florida State, Jan. 12, 2010)
G #10 Javier Gonzalez (10.0 ppg, 3.8 rpg; 5 pts and 3 asts vs. Florida State, Jan. 12, 2010)
G #12 Farnold Degand (5.7 ppg, 2.5 apg; 13 pts and 2 asts vs. Florida State, Jan. 12, 2010)
Florida State
F #31 Chris Singleton (10.4 ppg, 7.2 rpg; Averaged 9.0 ppg and 5.0 rpg in 2009 ACC Tourn)
F #42 Ryan Reid (6.9 ppg, 4.0 rpg; Averaged 4.0 pts and 2.7 rpg in the 2009 ACC Tourn)
C #32 Solomon Alabi (11.6 ppg, 2.3 bpg; Averaged 11.6 ppg and 5.3 rpg in 2009 ACC Tourn)
G #21 Michael Snaer (8.9 ppg, 2.6 rpg; First career ACC Tournament)
G #22 Derwin Kitchen (8.3 ppg, 3.9 apg; Averaged 6.3 ppg and 6.0 rpg in the 2009 ACC Tourn)
Keys to the Game:
1. Get out to a good start. Duke came out slow. VTech came out slow. Do not give NC State any confidence.
2. Work the shot clock to get good shots early. Get good looks and make them count. This is going to be possession basketball. Do not waste any opportunities. Wear NC State down; they played late last night, take advantage of fresh legs.
3. No surprises. Don't let Scott Wood put up 31 points on you. No surprise heroes on the night.
4. Play to their weakness. The don't rebound well on the defensive glass. They allow a lot of steals. Hopefully the Noles will turn those steals into easy points in transition.
5. Great guard play. NC State is one of the bigger teams in the conference. Snaer, Dulkys, Kitchen and Loucks need to have a good game. Javier Gonzalez, NC State's point guard, is only 5'11. Don't make silly mistakes. NC State does not generate a lot of turnovers, so don't give them any advantage.
6. Do what you do well. If NC State doesn't shoot the ball well, they're in trouble. Florida State is one of the best teams in the country at defending shots, particularly in the paint. Focus on your strengths and play your game plan, not theirs.
Prediction: Seminoles 67 NC State 60
Game Time: 9pm EST
Television: ESPN2
Random Fact From Seminoles.com:
2009-10 FLORIDA STATE MEN'S BASKETBALL HONORS
Solomon Alabi All-ACC Third Team
ACC All-Defensive Team (ACSMA)
ACC All-Defensive team (Coaches / ACC Handbook)
Chris Singleton ACC Defensive Player of the Year
All-ACC Third Team
ACC All-Defensive Team (Coaches / ACC Handbook)
MVP Old Spice Classic (Florida State won team championship)
Michael Snaer ACC All-Rookie Team
ACC Rookie of the Week (Feb. 15)
Go NOLES!!!
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and dont look now, but GTech is up 34-19 over Maryland, 1st half.
GaTech looks crisp and efficient on offense. This ACC Tourney has been a surprise from the first game of round one. Even Virginia played Duke tough today.
All is not lost; the unconquerable will/And courage never to submit or yield.
maryland's shots just aint falling. GaTech's are. 38-19 now.
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Would we rather face a team we've beaten twice this year or a team we've lost to twice?
There seems to be a big retribution factor built into those matchups.
Didn't help us against Duke last year.
That’s all I know.
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
yea, lets just play whoever we have to play next. my preference for GaTech was a
mild preference.
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I want
to see Maryland, i would like to personally be the ones to knock Grevias out of the tourny. Our D is going to be tenacious. We will be swishin n dishin, runnin and gunnin, The X man will be moving with mobility and agility, Snear will be slicin and dicin to the hole and fininshing. needless to say excited about this game.
And talk about Number One seeds having it easy
Duke gets UVA followed by Miami to get to the ACC finals?
yea, hows that happen? maybe Marquette can come back against GTown over at the Big
East Tourney, help out our resume.
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Don't think that's a knock on Duke
or any “easier”, per se, than facing Wake or VaTech.
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
*sigh*
For some reason, ESPN360 thinks the game starts at 9:30. I may just be angry for half an hour.
2010 ~ The Year of the Spear
Have
To wait for the Maryland game to end, no?
by Longislandnole on Mar 12, 2010 9:02 PM EST via mobile reply actions
great work - as usual
not to be that guy –
but i think you mean gonzalez as teh 5’11 pg- not vasquez
If you didnt know, baseball team just got blanked by UVa, 5-0
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Against an even better pitcher from UVA.
3 hits…
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
GaTech has been doing everything possible in the 2nd half to give the game to maryland.
turnovers galore, and badly missed free throws.
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gatech got away with one on that slam. definite shot clock violation
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as long as we don't get to see
vasquez doing his pistol imitation again
badly missed three pointer by vazquez there. poetic justice
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even better hahah
vasq whiffing the winning shot
no doubt. the whiny overreaction was the icing on the cake. what a
great start to our evening.
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We can advance to the semis tonight with a revenge win,
… and it looks like the Crocs will lose to Miss St. (down by 9 and under 5 min.)because seriously, F&%$ those guys anyways.
Don't really want
This game to go to OT at all. Have to love a vasguez air ball right there.
by Longislandnole on Mar 12, 2010 9:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
even better!
I really like steve duemig
Tampa Bay Buccaneers fan since 1979
by Niko Houllis
by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 12, 2010 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
LOL! Vazquez blows it. Too damn funny. Selfish kid wanted to win it himself!!!
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hey, TC, is it a half-hour break, or 20 minutes?
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How fitting that Vazquez...
gets stripped and launches an airball in 2 of his last 3 possessions. I delight in his failures.
Clearly a foul onthe three
Ref swallowed the whistle.
by FtLauderdaleNole on Mar 12, 2010 9:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Could have gone either way, actually.
Before the “strip”, Vazquez had a clear pushoff and the defender put an elbow to Vazquez’s throat.
by TheNole9Yards on Mar 12, 2010 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
The stripped 3?
I don’t have the luxury of DVR but it looked like it could’ve gone either way.
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"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
Go Noles!
Path is clear for us to get to ACC title game. Let’s do this.
by FtLauderdaleNole on Mar 12, 2010 9:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I expect a heck of a game
Should be close and physical. Love seeing Vasquez exit. Let’s hope our Noles avenge that home loss from this year and get a step closer to another visit to the ACC tourney final. we can show a lot of progress starting tonight.
Plus, I hope the gaters lose to MSU. Down by five with 35 seconds to go.
LOL. are they in or out, though?
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Lunardi still has them in.
Of course, the fact that the field is so weak across the board doesn’t hurt. Even in basketball the Gators have to back their way into any postseason success.
by TheNole9Yards on Mar 12, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
UNC in the NIT...I like your sense of humor, El Soro.
However, even the sweating the gayturds are gonna have to do the next couple days will be very enjoyable, even if they are in
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even if ONE turd has to sweat!
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radio broadcast just said about 7 minutes until tipoff
Go Noles!
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is audio online/what station in Pensacola?
by RollNole5 on Mar 12, 2010 9:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I pay for the audio broadcasts through Seminoles.com. $10/month.
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Roll, theres no Seminole radio for BBall in PCola...
You can try 1620, but its a long shot
by Randall W. Spetman on Mar 12, 2010 9:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
thanks im driving to a condo with the gf
And thought that I’d be there with plenty of time to spare but of course her and her friend took an extra 2 hours to get ready and now I’m gonna miss the first part of the gamw…ah the joys of women
by RollNole5 on Mar 12, 2010 9:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dayton, you gotta be sh***ing me!
Up 56-42 with 13 minutes to go and you blow it? Typical UD ball this year. What an utter disappointment of a season. Disgustingly disappointing.
Anyways, let’s bust some heads tonight.
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"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
I had a feeling you were not going to be happy with that, Trick. The technical call was a
little cheesy. Miss St won, GaTech won. Dayton may have just blew their chances.
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Yea, that definitely finished any hope I had.
No way they deserve a bid now. Pathetic. Just g.d. pathetic.
I could’ve seen a double technical and an ejection on that. But Lowery had to get called for something. He swung at the guy.
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2-2 17:36
Singleton fouled by Wood
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We need to watch wood
He can hit those from the outside as we saw last night too
7-6 NC State 15:49
Getting some decent looks. Just making it look ugly.
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Alabi block.
Fast break. Outlet pass too let. Alabi catches it on baseline. Turnover 4.
8-7 FSU
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His foot was on the baseline when he caught it.
Poor pass by Snaer (I think it was him) and it was much too late.
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Nice help defense by Kitchen to cause the travel.
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Alabi aggressive on a rebound and put back?
Fouled. Going to the line. Makes 1st. Makes 2nd. 12-7 FSU 13:13
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5 turnovers for NC State, 4 for FSU
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What, thought it was our ball on the out of bounds?
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Dulkys to Loucks, back to Dulkys, back to Loucks.
Loucks for 3. Misses. Gibson out of no where, jumps, catches and while still in the air slams it home. BOOM muhfugger-style.
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t.v. timeout...beer #1
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I went with a sampler pack of Flying Dog Brewery. I am trying their Classic Pale Ale
right now. Not bad
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you know it, never tried the Flying Dog before. Thats why I went with the Sampler
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Tasty one of the originators of the micro brew wave
Drinking a Fat tire myself on the West Coast here.
by willdabeast on Mar 12, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
fat tire. If I can get that at my local shop, I shall pick some up
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Anything Bell's I like.
Magic Hats are ok. And Dogfish Head.
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"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
Bells and Dogfish...top notch!
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Dogfish 90 Minute IPA...best beer in America?
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It's up there but it's pretty intense hop content
sometimes I like to chill with all the hop crazyness that goes on.
by willdabeast on Mar 12, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not a big hops guy.
I think Bells IPA is Two Hearted Ale. Didn’t like it at first. Sat it in my fridge for a few weeks and it wasn’t near as sharp. Tasted much better.
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
Yeah def. do if you can pretty tasty. Actually I was thinking of Dogfish Head before.
Actually my friend is a Brewer for Flying Dog. So I Fully endorse your drinking of it!
by willdabeast on Mar 12, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
wheres flying dog brewed at?
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Ok I finally got my facts straight.
I get mixed up with all the flyings and dogs and fishes.
Flying Fish Brewery- New Jersey is where my friend works.
Flying Dog Brewery- is based out of MD
Dogfish Head- Delaware early micro brew.
whew…
by willdabeast on Mar 12, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
well, I ought to do a Delaware/MD beer tour then
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GNO I would pay a service charge if youd UPS my ass
Some Fat tire…that stuff is like angel piss
by Randall W. Spetman on Mar 12, 2010 10:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I could send you some from Cali if you really want some.
Not sure if it’s distributed as far as Ohio.
by willdabeast on Mar 12, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
thanks for the offer! I'll keep that in mind if I cant find it
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I've never had it. Dont know if its available in Ohio. I am gonna look now
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0 points in almost 5 minutes for NC State.
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
4 straight points, all from the charity stripe.
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"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
What did Gibson do after the dunk to get the foul?
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"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
And our offense hits the skids.
14-13, 6-0 NC State run.
As Loucks hits a 3. 17-13 FSU
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"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
Give credit to Alabi.
MUCH more aggressive on the offensive glass tonight. Not quite converting, but it’s a start.
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thanks for the updates trick you're carrying the thread for us poor stranded fellows
by RollNole5 on Mar 12, 2010 10:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
16-18. We look like crap again.
Snaer travels trying to make a move at the 3 point line. 9 turnovers now.
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"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
he must have a weird first step
Because in college and pros everyone travels on their first step it seems but he gets called on it consistently
by RollNole5 on Mar 12, 2010 10:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It's the whole not quite stopping before you start type thing.
It just doesn’t look right. The most common type of travel I think you see. Or one of them.
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Thats what we do man...
One big happy freaking family
by Randall W. Spetman on Mar 12, 2010 10:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Turnover #10 for FSU.
Ugly possession there. Wow. Sloppy everywhere. lol
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How do let the NC State coach walk 3' on the court during play
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
by RaysnNoles on Mar 12, 2010 10:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Wood hits his 3rd 3. 3 for 3.
19-18 NC State…
He was wide open, too.
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"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
wood is not going to do this again is he?
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its not his fault hes wide open
by RollNole5 on Mar 12, 2010 10:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Why does
Hamilton insist on putting an awful lineup on the court.
by Longislandnole on Mar 12, 2010 10:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Kitchen allows his man to run down the paint and hit the 2 for the lead.
Crowd wants a walk on Alabi. No call. Walks again. Gets called.
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Steal. Kitchen to Singleton with the slam and 1.
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Singleton steal.
Kitchen drives. Clanks floater off back of the rim.
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he does hesitate a lot
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I think it's because he's quick but
can’t accelerate by people one on one like that.
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Well him trying to pass the ball into the post is like watching Porky Pig at the end of a Looney Toons show. On that last one it should have been an alley-oop to Singleton, IMO but he hesitated, and then had to attempt an awkward shot. The one before was nice though.
I would need to see a replay.
Didn’t think there was a clear passing lane.
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21 total turnovers, split 50/50.
in only 17 minutes of play.
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10.5 turnovers per team?
by Randall W. Spetman on Mar 12, 2010 10:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sometimes I think our basketball stupidity is contagious. Why would anybody try to lob the ball over Alabi?
PJ with a nice entry pass. Alabi went straight up and slammed it home. Alabi had 2 guys backed down on the entry.
Travel.
On Jordan. Also pushed off a bit. Was doubled on the sideline. Not the greatest route to catch the inbounds pass from.
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I was adding on.
Sorry. Like the next sequential play.
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Singleton is active as hell on defense.
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Get the steal but play hot potato with 3 guys.
NC State gets it. Fouled. Makes 2.
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we're letting horner and wood
get open at the same spots… they’re going to hurt us
On a side note
Seen the FSU cheerleaders/golden girls plenty – but none from the ncstate side!
Overall hotness is definitely at an all time high this year.
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man, did they look good.
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Yeah I'm pretty sure I've got one in my class
and my cohort has another in his.
halftime break just started, if thats what you mean.
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Why did Meeechigan put whitey on Turner?
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Where was Snare in the first half?
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
by RaysnNoles on Mar 12, 2010 10:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions
boy, you got that right. zero shot attempts, zero free throw attempts
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That "country" routine
by the golden girls in the background was probably my least favorite from the last game I saw live =/
Do we have anyone in foul trouble
Jordan played quite a bit. Singleton is everywhere. What instincts.
by FtLauderdaleNole on Mar 12, 2010 10:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Who is our leading scorer?
by Randall W. Spetman on Mar 12, 2010 10:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Don't know if I'll make it through halftime.
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damn these 3's are killing us
like they have all year I suppose
Missing shots from within 5 feet will kill us.
Snaer with a tough drive and bucket.
33-32 NC State 16:57
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24 turnovers, 18 field goals COMBINED in the first half.
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look foolish trying to break the press
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Patrick has no idea who Alabi and Reid are.
Actually, he thinks they’re both Alabi.
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Who the heck lit this fire under Alabi's [butt]?
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I cant believe we're losing to these guys
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san diego state beat new mexico
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was that the tourney final?
by Randall W. Spetman on Mar 12, 2010 11:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Man, I gotta get me some Muscle Milk.
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Finally got to a radio feed...
And now I wish I hadnt
by Randall W. Spetman on Mar 12, 2010 11:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Dude averages 7.7 ppg and has scored 43 on us in less than 2 games.
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Alabi is more aggressive
but throwing up some poor, off balance shots. Cool. We replaced him with Gibson. Drains the jumper.
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Their best player has been injured this whold 2nd half and isn't even playing now...
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Yeah
I thought we had shown some improvement but the coaching job for this one screams incompetency.
by EngineerNole on Mar 12, 2010 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
Wood 6-8 from 3 tonight.
That shot was a bit more difficult. Good d and like 4 feet behind the arc.
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I may just hit the sack.
Just not interested in watching ugly ball, win or lose.
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Some times there's nothing you can do
the cat is in the zone. We can’t hold on to the ball. We sure as hell can’t take it strong to the hole.
And their damn fans are very much into the game now.
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Let em cheer...
We are goin dancin, remember Theyre gonna be sitting at home with their thumbs in their asses
by Randall W. Spetman on Mar 12, 2010 11:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Going 0-2 vs a team that didn't sniff the NCAAT would suck.
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ummm.... yeah
This is so bad it’s funny.
by MattDNole on Mar 12, 2010 11:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions
How many times are they going to talk about Wood's 1st game against us?
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
sloppy with the basketball
All is not lost; the unconquerable will/And courage never to submit or yield.
That Miller Light waitress?
Smokin’.
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
Nothing going our way at all right now.
Nothing.
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
foul shots with 2 seconds left on the shot clock. that wont help
All is not lost; the unconquerable will/And courage never to submit or yield.
I love our bball team to death
But they are perfectly miserable to watch.
"The car. The car run real good"
“Keep your hands down”
by The K-Man on Mar 12, 2010 11:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I dont even have time to make a post about a bad turnover before we commit another one
All is not lost; the unconquerable will/And courage never to submit or yield.
Or a loose ball we have and somehow just don't pick up and NC State gets it back.
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
I like the ones where alabi thinks he is carrying plutonium
All is not lost; the unconquerable will/And courage never to submit or yield.
and ANOTHER turnover
I’m going to whaddaburger before I wake the fam up with yelling
Only down 5.
Feels like 20. Seriously. 17 turnovers. 3 points in last 4 minutes.
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
Apparently Hamilton needs to put these guys through some basics.
#1. When 10 ft from another player, you do not need to launch the ball like you’re Nolan Ryan.
If I weren't an ACC fan and I flipped this game on
I’d think it was like the NCAAT’s play-in game of two 16 seeds, but for the ACCT. That’s how g.d. awful both these teams look.
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
This has got to be the ugliest game I've ever watched.
And I used to coach a 4th grade team.
by TheNole9Yards on Mar 12, 2010 11:40 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
missed 6 of last 7 free throws. LOL
All is not lost; the unconquerable will/And courage never to submit or yield.
he looks like Naismith right now
All is not lost; the unconquerable will/And courage never to submit or yield.
Two timeouts and we don't call one there?
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
7 points in last 11 minutes and you DON'T call a timeout to get a play run?
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
pissed away a golden opportunity to reach the ACC title game
great job,boys
All is not lost; the unconquerable will/And courage never to submit or yield.
Yeah
The seed doesn’t really matter when we play like this. We get to go and embarass ourselves again on National TV.
Sucks.
yep. at this time, I WANT an 8 or 9. That way, if we do win, we get a 1 seed in game
All is not lost; the unconquerable will/And courage never to submit or yield.
I actually wouldn't mind that.
But you saw us against Duke. They’re a 1.
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
good point. I mean, you know damn well as much as I do...this team aint going
anywhere in the Dance. We might as well look forward to a possible match-up with a #1 seed in the 2nd round. What else can we look forward to?
All is not lost; the unconquerable will/And courage never to submit or yield.
baseball season?
I doubt we make the 2nd round; I see us matched up with one of the “hot” teams in the country, like ND
we probably wont make the 2nd round. right now, I just hope they ship
us out West again, so I dont have to take time off of work to watch this garbage.
All is not lost; the unconquerable will/And courage never to submit or yield.
thats what I was thinking.
All is not lost; the unconquerable will/And courage never to submit or yield.
same damn problem from game 1 of the acc schedule...
and I am talking about LAST year’s ACC schedule
All is not lost; the unconquerable will/And courage never to submit or yield.
As Keystone Cops-ish as they've been playing...
you’d be better off with a good old “razzle-frazzle”
by TheNole9Yards on Mar 12, 2010 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
I am not one to light up the air ways with foul language
But if ever there is a time, I believe it to be when watching this “team” “play.”
by EngineerNole on Mar 12, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
They didn't score a FG in about 8 minutes
And we only caught up by three. Unbelievable. Inexcusable. DAMN it.
by EngineerNole on Mar 12, 2010 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
alabi
god i’ve never seen a seven footer miss so many easy shots my god, play gibson….alabi my goodness you are the most aggrevating player to watch ever!!!!!!
A decent team would have pulled this one out
Glaring weaknesses on offense. We play like lazy undisciplined fools.
we got beat twice by NC State. Twice.
All is not lost; the unconquerable will/And courage never to submit or yield.
Good News: With the win, NC State's RPI will probably rise over 100
2010 Rays Baseball: Shut up, Mr. Rosenthal. We're not giving up.
2009 FSU Football: Thanks for the memories, Bobby Bowden
by JMB on Mar 12, 2010 11:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
one a done in the dance once again!!
by phi*tau-nole on Mar 12, 2010 11:54 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Anyone know how badly we're gonna lose our NCAA game?
2010 Rays Baseball: Shut up, Mr. Rosenthal. We're not giving up.
2009 FSU Football: Thanks for the memories, Bobby Bowden
by JMB on Mar 12, 2010 11:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions
its gonna depend completely on who the committee matches us up with.
All is not lost; the unconquerable will/And courage never to submit or yield.
For me...
I am still satisfied just getting to the tournament. I am very much aware of how frustrating and difficult it has been for us the past several years so I appreciate doing it again, twice in a row.
However, next year, we will have no excuse but to AT LEAST win one game in the NCAAT, but this year I’m just glad we made it.
Absolutely Horrible
Great game luke louks! Put the ball on the floor again Solomon! Great game plan Ham!
What a GIANT fucking step backward.
LL
It wasn’t LL’s fault we lost. He has actually stepped up the past several games, and he was never supposed to be any more than a role player anyway. The other players are the ones sucking ass. CS is a freak, SA is a freak. These guys have been playing TERRIBLY.
MS and DK all of a sudden can’t pass or hold on to the ball. EVERYONE WAS DREADFUL. At least DD and LL didn’t turn it over.
by EngineerNole on Mar 13, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
Loucks sucked tonight and he snapped at a teammate
he’s a Big 10 guard in nthe ACC.
by Jersey Nole on Mar 13, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
+ 1,000,000!!!!!
I’ve said it for a long time listening to all the bullshit about Alabi being a lottery pick this year…“when it’s all said and done Gibson will make a lot more money playing basketball than Alabi ever will.”
by Jersey Nole on Mar 13, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
They get plenty of individual coaching.
Players DO improve during their time here. AJ, Toney, Al, all improved. Rich improved. Swann improved. Alabi, believe it or not, has improved since he first stepped foot on campus. Improved a ton, actually. His ceiling is just not nearly as high as his 5* ranking by Rivals. Players improve, the offense does not.
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
Would
somebody please remind me again why we can’t find a better coach? We have to be the worst offensive team in the tourney and quite frankly it’s embarrassing. We couldn’t run a set play if our life depended on it, shoot FT’s like 8 year olds and this team has made zero progress since the start of the season. I don’t care what the stats say. There isn’t a word in webster’s to describe the offensive ineffectiveness.
i agree, middle school kids can shoot a better ft percentage than us
by phi*tau-nole on Mar 13, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
You cannot knock the free throw shooting
when the 3 prior years we were amongst the best in the nation at it.
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
I know that I love FSU basketball, I know that now I am drunk(ish), but.....
….this team, despite the fact that they finished 3rd in the ACC…still manages to embarrass the s@!t out of me every time they are on TV. They couldn’t even secure an easy win against Miami last weekend, they had to give up a 15 point lead to win by 1.
I don’t even want to watch the 1st Round next weekend, because chances are they’ll lose to Winthrop or some BS like that. This loss really sucks. So sorry for the stream-of-consciousness; I just can’t believe that a team this talented can consistently let games like this get away from them, and always at the worst time. We can’t even win “pretty.” Glad we were able to beat UNC and Wake while they were down….
How much more evidence do people need to see that Ham is a bad coach
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
by RaysnNoles on Mar 13, 2010 12:48 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I often wonder if it’s his fault or the fact that none of the coaches on the staff can seem to coach an offense. To be sure that is partly Ham’s fault because he put the staff together but it doesn’t seem like it should take much effort for FSU to have a semi-competent offense. I would like to see Stan Jones (as I believe he draws up our plays) replaced if when next year looks similar to this year.
hopefully
alabi will grow a set this offseason…..hes gotta be the weakest big man ive ever seen ……….
If we are relying on Alabi to "lead" our team
we are in trouble. He is not that type of player mentally. Nor is he good enough physically.
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
I'm with you on the free throw shooting, Trick. I mean, 9 of 17 last night was horrible,
and probably a reasonable percentage would have meant victory, but its hard to knock the FT shooting, or put into in the “Things To Worry About Column,” when there are myriad other things on that list and the fact of how good FSU FT shooting has been in the past.
Now, on to Alabi. B-rod24’s short, succinct post above got me thinking…maybe Hamilton should start Gibson? We need all the offensive help we can get, and it seems Alabi’s only real, consistent skill on offense is his free throw shooting, and that doesn’t seem to make up for his deficiencies.
All is not lost; the unconquerable will/And courage never to submit or yield.
I think playing more would get him into the flow
of things better on defense and likely cut the fouls down some. But I do agree that’s something he needs to work on. But if he fouls out, next year we’ll have Alabi, Kreft and James to replace him.
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
Was really painful to watch last night
There were a couple of turnovers that were just complete miscommunicaiton. Our defensive intensity and prowess usually is on display but damn the offense is so painful to watch.
It wasn't just turnovers
It was missing a gazillion 3’s and FT’s. How many times did we step out of bounds? How many times did we just give the ball away? That game totally sucked
There is no reason why Chris Singleton should ever shoot another 3 pointer.
Guy is a hawk on defense, but dearly lord, stop chucking 3’s. Also, learn to make a FT. He’s shooting under .500 from the FT line. That’s Shaq bad.
SCALP 'EM SEMINOLES!
It's a team-wide epidemic this year.
Kitchen was marginally better. Alabi was much better. So was DeMercy, actually. Loucks, Dulkys, Reid, Gibson, Singleton are all substantially worse.
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
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