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#5 Florida State Seminoles Travel to #6 Florida Gators: Live Game Thread

The Florida State Seminoles baseball team travels to Gainesville to take on the Gators for the 2nd time this season and are doing so after losing a weekend series to #1 Virginia Cavaliers.  We didn’t do a series recap this week because a lot of our thoughts, frustrations and opinions were expressed in this thread, Mike Martin, Micromanager: Why FSU's baseball coach prevents his team from scoring runs.

Most casual followers with think that the major issue with that game was blowing a large lead in the 9th inning and while that is disheartening it is also something that does happen at all levels of baseball to teams of all caliber.  Coach Martin has a propensity to get tight in situations regarding his bullpen and this early in the season he is still unsure of whom he can trust.  As the season progresses he will identify his go to guys and as long as bullpen meltdowns don’t happen on a frequent basis it is something that is tolerable.  Something that is intolerable and inexcusable is the way Head Coach Mike Martin squanders scoring opportunities by sacrificing precious outs.  It is an eerily similar to the situation that we had with regards to football and to expect a coach to change his philosophies after 30 plus years is not logical.  My hope this year is that our talent level is elite enough to overcome the shortcomings of a manager who is past his prime.

Taking the hill tonight for the ‘Noles is Freshman Robert Benincasa who will be making is 3rd start of the season.  He is coming off a solid start last week against North Florida pitching 6 innings where only 1 run was allowed while striking out and walking 3.  While the UF lineup is young and inexperienced it is much more formidable than UNF. So far this season the freshman has showed that while he has been able to pitch out of jams he still has not been able to consistently throw strikes, expect the kid to get knocked around tonight. 

The Gators counter with freshman righty Hudson Randall who will be making his 3rd start of the season.  Randall’s stat line in his two starts looks impressive, 10 IP, 7H, 1ER, 6K, 3BB with a 66.6 GB%.  His numbers look less impressive when you consider his opponents (UCF, Illinois State) and remember that in his 3 innings of relief in the first game against the ‘Noles he was touched up for 3 runs in 3 innings.  Again sample sizes are extremely small but expect Randall to struggle as much as Benincasa.

Much like the first matchup this will be a game determined by who can outslug who, this obviously favors Florida State and despite the game being on the road I think they have a good change of pulling out a win before heading on their first road trip of the season.

Be here at 6:30 PM for the live game thread.  You can catch the game on Fox Sports Florida, listen on 1270 The Team or follow via GameTracker

Go Noles 

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how much does a manager really effect things?

I’m not much of a baseball guy but it always seemed like Managers had the least effect on the game in comparison to Bball and Fball.

by willdabeast on Mar 16, 2010 6:03 PM EDT reply actions  

A manager should have very little effect on things

Unfortunately our manager interjects himself into the game more than any other I have ever seen

It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee

by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our offense is really a set it and forget it lineup. Managers come in to key in pitching more than anything. Most college teams don’t let their catchers call the pitches (too much information for a catcher to remember in a limited amount of time). Also, when a pitcher is pulled and who comes in is always important. Shifts come into play as a lesser degree.

by evenflow58 on Mar 16, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

just ordered some pizza and wings

cracked open a beer – hopefully the Noles can take out the gators again :)

by DaveSpates on Mar 16, 2010 6:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice work

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe #11 read his emails

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reads? Yes. Pays attention to? Not likely.

by evenflow58 on Mar 16, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt he’s even reading them. Maybe him and Bowden ordered some of those “Video Professor” tutorials off TV.

by 38Noles on Mar 16, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

FSU needs to get up on UF early so we can let our pen have some breathing room.

by evenflow58 on Mar 16, 2010 6:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Like that…thank you top of the order.

by evenflow58 on Mar 16, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully Holt is out of his slump. His last 2 ABs have been game-winning HR, and a single.

by evenflow58 on Mar 16, 2010 6:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't see how people think he is in a slump

.441 OBP and a .600 SLG

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Slumps are relative. For me, it’s due to the high strike out numbers he’s had…pressing.

by evenflow58 on Mar 16, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grant it he hasn't really started ACC play yet

But his numbers are relatively the same as years past.
Year-BB:K-K/AB
2010-1.10- 5.50
2009- 1.15- 5.04
2008- 1.39- 5.43

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not as bad as I thought. Seems like the K’s have been coming more lately but I suppose that’s to be expected with the increase of competition.

by evenflow58 on Mar 16, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goodbye, McGee 3 Run bomb

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

3-2 Noles

2 run homer for Gators

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 6:53 PM EDT reply actions  

HBP and BB prompts #11 to make a trip to the mound

Benincasa doesnt look poised right now

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 7:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully he gets through this inning and settles down. 11 has not put him in very good situations in the last week or so. Hopefully he makes the best of this one.

by evenflow58 on Mar 16, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice catch by Holt...

Good baserunning by the Gate, though…

Out of the inning.

by Randall W. Spetman on Mar 16, 2010 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

0-2 in sac opps for #11

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

And Martin goes and royally f**ks everything up

Runners on 1st and 2nd ZERO outs. Bunt to the pitcher, throws to 3rd for the out

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Drink up

It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee

by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's truly hilarious to read the baseball coverage at TN

Then watch the theories come to life on my big screen. It’s like I’ve read a book cover to cover, then I get to see the movie come out.

by Randall W. Spetman on Mar 16, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

See what happens when you let them swing away

Double down the line, 4-2 Noles, 2nd and 3rd 1 out

It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee

by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Obviously the past is not indication of the future. Baseball’s not easy to predict. It’s not the stock market.
end sarcasm

by evenflow58 on Mar 16, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's actually thrown the ball OK.

Made a mistake to McGee, and Holt bounced one off the Gator 3B glove (Woulda been a tough play to make).

When he can pound the ball inside and keep it low, he looks pretty good (then again, you can say that about every pitcher, I guess)

Benicasa looks like he’s settling down a little this inning.

by Randall W. Spetman on Mar 16, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gator pitcher has had decent stuff

Benincasa keeps the ball down he’s okay, problem has been that he has not.

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just saying, we did not know if he would call the pitches both ways because we hadn’t thrown any close enough to call strikes.

by pollynole on Mar 16, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

5-2 Noles Mid 2nd

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Exposed cinder block walls, no dirt down the baselines

Could UF put less effort into this dump of a stadium?

by 38Noles on Mar 16, 2010 7:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I used to live across from that thing.

It’s definitely not an aesthetic wonder of the world.

Then again, it fits right in in Gainesville!

by Randall W. Spetman on Mar 16, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope he proves me wrong

Pitched great against UVA last weekend

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s looked very good this year. I’ve been impressed as I didn’t think he’d have a place on the team this year.

by evenflow58 on Mar 16, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course

Up 0-2 and he hits a guy

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Martin pulls Benincasa after another walk

Terrible, let the kid pitch, he bombs who cares. Don’t tax your bullpen before a road series at a highly ranked in-conference club

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 7:38 PM EDT reply actions  

what hapened?

Trainer just stared at him…

by DixieNole on Mar 16, 2010 7:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He said get up you puss

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I usually don't LOL things, but that was funny.

Imagine a trainer walking up to you and saying “get up…you puss” after rolling your ankle

by Randall W. Spetman on Mar 16, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very frustrating inning for FSU. At least Scantling hasn’t done much wrong.

by evenflow58 on Mar 16, 2010 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I can’t watch the game up in VA so I can’t say I know what you are talking about. Is he still slowing his arm on his off speed stuff?

by evenflow58 on Mar 16, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good lord. How has he pitched this well with that motion? That’s unbelievable.

by evenflow58 on Mar 16, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn’t sound like Scantling has pitched very badly. Mostly weak hits, except the last one.

by evenflow58 on Mar 16, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

explain this move...

Finally getting outs. Brillant.

by DixieNole on Mar 16, 2010 7:59 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Madden promptly walks the 1st batter

Hit the showers Corbin

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think we have enough pitchers on the roster for this game. Can Holt pitch?

by evenflow58 on Mar 16, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not a big confindence/psyche guy

But this doesn’t help 18 and 19 year old kids develop

It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee

by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah we need to pick one of these guys and just let him go the rest of the way.

It’s possible the pen may not be needed extensively until Saturday, but this is ridiculous.

by 38Noles on Mar 16, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL at Mick Hubert

Challenging “the book” with statistics? Ridiculous.

by 38Noles on Mar 16, 2010 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

6-5 Gators top of the 5th

Top of the line up

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

"When did you become a Gator?"

Even worse than the “Go Gators..Go cure cancer” ad.

by 38Noles on Mar 16, 2010 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Correct

Brought in Madden for the lefty/lefty matchup. He was promptly walked on 5 pitches

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Birds gotta fly, fish have to swim, Madden has to walk a batter.

by evenflow58 on Mar 16, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok...

situational baseball. Gotta love that.

by Randall W. Spetman on Mar 16, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a huge baseball fan, and have been watching it my whole life

And played a little in college…I’ve never really watched FSU baseball, but I read the TN coverage when I’m bored.

I must say, you guys are pretty spot on with your analysis.

by Randall W. Spetman on Mar 16, 2010 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Pat yourself on the back too

You keeping #11 employed makes our job really easy

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I aim to please.

You guys should seriously know that one of my main objectives is to give the good people here at TN fodder for thought.

Yet I get chastised on a regular bases.

You punk kids.

by Randall W. Spetman on Mar 16, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just wait for the NCAA Tournament. You haven’t truly watched FSU baseball until you’ve seen us fold up in the Tournament.

by 38Noles on Mar 16, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's just the thing.

I like watching the Tourney…that’s the reason I’ve never really watched FSU baseball

by Randall W. Spetman on Mar 16, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

We pretty muched lived in Omaha during the 90's.

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by tricknole on Mar 16, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is the Gators pitching this good, or our bats off tonight?

Or a little of both. I was poised to see a HR derby from the way some people comment.

by Randall W. Spetman on Mar 16, 2010 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s going a lot like the first game. We get after them early and then they put us to sleep. I don’t know what’s up with them.

by 38Noles on Mar 16, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Their relievers are on tonight

Maronde was a starter last year who pitched well

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think thats 4 infield hits for the Gators tonight

Coupled with at least 3 bloops just over the infields head

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Pitchers best friend

Runner on 3rd, 2 outs

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

345

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

456

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

McGee 4, Tapley 5

Gators just got a big break.

by 38Noles on Mar 16, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Danesh pinch running for Tapley

Dumb Dumb Dumb

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I think we did something similar during the Virginia series.

Pinch running down 3? I don’t even see what logic he’s basing that on.

by 38Noles on Mar 16, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is none

Tapley was not the tying or winning run. You have now replaced one of your best hitters with one of your worst

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Daniel Bennett enters the game

The one pitcher I dislike more than Scantling

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

That was like his 12th AB of the season

He’s been hurt with a strained oblique (probably due to football). Barring injury to the current starters it doesn’t seem like he will get much PT. If and when he is drafted it will be strictly on potential ala D’Vontery

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's what I kinda figured you'd say.

He’s obviously a tremendous athlete. In the right hands, he could be a good prospect.

by Randall W. Spetman on Mar 16, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Noles lose 8-5 to Gators

Their bullpen shut down our offense (1 hit in 5 innings) and ours was typical FSU.

It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee

by RaysnNoles on Mar 16, 2010 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Nothing past amateur

Very passionated about it though

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by RaysnNoles on Mar 17, 2010 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

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