The Conversation: TNation Chats with The Slipper Still Fits about Friday's NCAA Tournament Game
As a part of this week's preview for Florida State's NCAA Tournament game, we had the opportunity to run some questions by the guys at 'The Slipper Still Fits,' SBNations Gonzaga blog. They do really great work at their site, so take a few minutes to check out their work. Our answers to their questions will be posted on their site. Gonzaga is a team that most of the country east of the Mississippi River is not very familiar with. This is a great discussion about what Florida State can expect on Friday.
First, thank you to Zach and Max at 'The Slipper Still Fits.' They provided some really insightful answers to our questions. We appreciate them taking the time to share their thoughts with us. Check out their site to see what we had to say about the game. Here is what we learned about Gonzaga.
1. Unfortunately, most ACC fans impression of Gonzaga was their performance against the Blue Devils. That game does not reflect the quality of basketball that was played by Gonzaga this year. What is the 'real' Gonzaga like? How would you describe this team to the casual fan? Should they be an 8 seed, playing across the country?
Your description is spot on. Gonzaga's perception nationally is very unfortunate; probably more unfortunate than I care to admit. As fans of such a irregular program like Gonzaga, you never really know how the world views you. Some think you're a cute mid-major that plays in an awful conference and some think you are a consistently overrated team that the media has fallen in love with. The Zags definitely didn't help themselves this season to sway any naysayers. Their two most "national" games were the Duke game and the WCC Championship against Saint Mary's. Both resulted in laid eggs. For that reason it is really hard to define this team as anything but inconsistent. The good thing, however, is that can make them incredibly dangerous in tournament settings if they get hot. The real Gonzaga is driven around Elias Harris. The Zags are at a whole different level when the offense is working around him because he can score from anywhere on the court and in a variety of ways. If he is active and involved early on, I don't think there is a team in the country Gonzaga can't beat. If he's out of the mix and having to work too much to create on offense, there isn't a team in the country that Gonzaga can't lose to. We've kinda boiled this team down to that fact.
There's not really a doubt in my mind that Gonzaga should be in that seven-eight seed area and away from the West coast. Losing two conference games to teams not even sniffing the tournament really broke this team's back. The nineteen point loss in the tournament championship game was just reassurance that this team was not worthy of being "protected" by the committee.
2. With a 26-6 record, the Bulldogs didn't struggle with many opponents this year. But, against what type of team did Gonzaga have their most success? What kind of teams/style of play caused them to struggle?
Like I said in the previous question, so much of this team's success lies on the shoulders of Elias Harris. At the beginning of the season, Harris was still an unknown German freshman. After the Michigan State game, Maui, and the rest of conference play, the nation woke up and really began gameplanning around him. Since then, Gonzaga has really struggled matching up with physical opposition. What most of the West Coast Conference did against Gonzaga was just hit them. Whenever Matt Bouldin, Steven Gray, or any other guard went to the hoop, they were either fouled or just defended very physically. This tends to throw them, especially Bouldin, off their game. If Matt feels like he's not getting calls early, he really struggles to get himself going. Moving into the post, the same can be said for Gonzaga's center, Robert Sacre. Rob has shown tremendous flashes all season long but he still lacks consistent assertiveness that all great big men have. If he doesn't receive the ball in "scoring position" he will typically turn the ball over because he's still very raw dribbling in the post and controlling his body. The Gonzaga coaching staff has had a hard time knowing how to use Rob throughout the year. Sometime they force feed him early to get him going but, and this is going to sound old, he gets better if Harris is the focal point. Defense is drawn away from Rob and the rest of the team when Elias demands attention and his presence opens up lanes all over the court.
By now, I expect Florida State fans to be salivating because they are exactly the defensive team GU struggles against. Athletic, long, and very physical is what I have gathered regarding the Noles defense. For the Zags to combat this, the game must be played from the inside-out to try and use their size to "out-tough" FSU.
3. Matt Bouldin, Steven Gray and Elias Harris appear to be the three headed monster for the Bulldogs. Out of those three, who do you think will give the Seminoles the most difficulty? Aside from the big three, who should Seminoles' fans be familiar with before this game starts? One shot left, who gets the ball?
With as much as I've talked about Elias Harris, I have to take this opportunity discuss Steven Gray. I think that Gray is the answer to two of your questions (I hope). He should get the ball with the clock winding down and he can present the most issues to Florida State. I say that for one reason and that is because Gonzaga truly needs him to be exceptional. Against a team like FSU where penetration from the outside may be limited, the Zags need Gray to hit shots from the outside and pull their defense out. While Matt Bouldin is sort of the jack-of-all-trades for this team, Steven is the most pure and explosive scorer. If he gets hot from the perimeter, he can put down four before you blink. He's also turned in to the total package and can drive to the rack or pull up for a mid-range jumper. He's also one of the few Zags that has been playing consistently lately and that, hopefully, will carry over to Friday.
In a game where I believe Gonzaga has to hit a certain point total to win, I think instant offense is going to be crucial off the bench. For that reason, the guy you should get to know is Canadian via Sudan transplant Bol Kong. Kong is a redshirt sophomore in his first season since transferring down and getting through his lengthy visa issues. He became the Zags primary bench player early in the season but cooled off during conference play and has since seen a little resurgence. You'll likely see Kong camping out around the three-point line waiting for the kick out pass. If he hits his first shot, watch out. He can bury a couple quick ones and give Gonzaga the lift it needs.
4. Florida State has one of the highest turnover percentages in all of college basketball. Gonzaga doesn't force many turnovers. What impact will turnovers play in this game?
I don't really see turnovers playing a huge role in terms of Gonzaga forcing them. This team really lacks the necessary experience from top to bottom to really take major defensive risks and it is just not really in Mark Few's nature to roll out a team that is going to put serious pressure on a team. The Zags also recently lost key reserve Mangisto Arop to a broken foot. Arop was one of Gonzaga's best situational defenders and was easily their most efficient rebounder. With his loss, the Bulldogs' hope to make a serious defensive impact really goes down. Steven Gray will get a few steals, Matt Bouldin might gather one or two up, and Demetri Goodson will force a few but
5. What does Gonzaga need to do in order to win this game?
I think in games like these, there is never really one blueprint a team has to follow to win. I do think that it is entirely possible for this game to be really decided within the first ten minutes. Tempo and style in this game are going to be so crucial. If it is a knock 'em dead, drag 'em out affair, I have very little hope that the Zags can sustain. If they can get going early and play the inside-out game with Harris and Sacre, I feel like this is a game Gonzaga can dominate. The flip side of the coin is that Gonzaga has been notoriously slow starting this season but it's hard to know whether that is due to lack of motivation or some larger reason. Overall, I can't see them needing any sort of wake-up call for an NCAA Tournament game which makes me very confident.
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When I think of Gonzaga...
I think of Adam Morrison’s mustache
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
by RaysnNoles on Mar 17, 2010 10:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Me to RnN...
For some reason, he’s synonymous with the team. I have no idea why.
by Randall W. Spetman on Mar 18, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
When I think Morrison, I think of
him talking to himself like a crazy person and smacking himself in the head with the basketball.
When I think Gonzaga, I don’t think Morrison, though.
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
I don't think of Gonzaga as either of these.
Some think you’re a cute mid-major that plays in an awful conference and some think you are a consistently overrated team that the media has fallen in love with.
They are a mid-major that plays in a fairly poor (not awful) conference. I also don’t think they’re overrated (as a program). They’ve earned their reputation. To me, that reputation is a perennial top 25 type team that makes frequent sweet sixteen runs. They made 4 in the aughts. UNC made 5. Syracuse made 4. Florida made 3. UConn made 5. UCLA made 5. Pretty solid company, imo.
This year I don’t think Gonzaga is anything special. A solid club. We, also, are a solid club. I wouldn’t give them much of a chance to beat Syracuse were they to beat us in the 1st round. I would give us a slightly better chance. I think we should beat Gonzaga, but like many games I think we should’ve won this year (or at least fared better than we actually did), I don’t think we win. Obviously I hope I’m wrong.
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
You know what's funny.
I think the exact same thing. We prolly should beat them. But we should’ve beaten NCst twice. I want to win but I’m not getting too emotionally invested honestly. I just can’t.
Of course I’ll be throwing things at the screen during the game if we lose uggg.
I agree Trick
They are not over-rated to me either. You defined them perfectly, both perennially and this year.
My predictions:
A) GNO is right, we cannot fix turnovers (my only suggestion is to use our team and TV timeouts wisely so Ham, Stan or whoever can tell them to calm the F down)
2) Since Elias Harris appears to be the savior of this team and he’ll be matched up with Singleton, Chris needs to lock down on him like he has against Aminu and Lawal.
d) Solomon and Chris have to limit their fouls. I know its hard to say “play great defense, but don’t foul” but this has been a hinderance the last 4-5 games on the offensive end for us when both our bigs are in foul trouble
Buffalo) To me, solid gaurd play and free throws are EVERYTHING in the tourney and for that reason my prediction is….
Zags 63 FSU 62
Take heart Noles, I haven’t gotten a single prediction right this year.
"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett
by The Ryno and I Know on Mar 18, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Thought I'd give the system a tourney style wrinkle
"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett
by The Ryno and I Know on Mar 18, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Say, what they said about their center, Robert Sacre, it reminds me of someone. Hmmm...
“If he doesn’t receive the ball in “scoring position” he will typically turn the ball over because he’s still very raw dribbling in the post and controlling his body."
Anyway, say you were made part of the coaching staff last Sunday, and you find out you are playing Gonzaga. You got 4 days. The question is: what simple fix, that can be implemented (and comprehended by the players in 4 days), do you propose to Coach Ham for limiting the turnovers?
Assume the free throw shooting can’t be fixed in four days. Whatever percentage FSU hits FT’s at is what they are going to hit them at. Correct the easiest problem; the turnovers.
All is not lost; the unconquerable will/And courage never to submit or yield.
At this point in the season there's really nothing you can do except hope that the players
execute. Our turnovers come in such consistently poor ways (Snaer taking 2 steps before a dribble, Ryan turning into Isiah Thomas, X stepping on the baseline, Chris deciding to pass it to one of the coaches) that no tweaking of the scheme will affect it in a short time period. You just have to hope they don’t do stupid things with the ball, and breath a bit easier knowing that Mark Few and pressure D don’t really go hand in hand.
by norcal_nole on Mar 17, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
The trick is how well we do against their zone.
If I were our opponent I’d maybe never play man to man.
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
We struggle against the press/very aggressive defenses and
zones. I have no idea why a team wouldn’t try either against us.
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"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
I was saying they should play zone.
As should any team we face.
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"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
im back to my original position:
i doubt we win this matchup…
I completely disagree with the game being decided in the first ten minutes
outside of maybe the Duke game, I cant remember one game this year where we knew one way or another whether one team was going to pull away. Its probably because most of the time we were the better team and we don’t have the offense to pull away. Regardless, this is probably going to be just like we’ve seen all season – our D building us a insurmountable early 10 point lead just to watch them pull win a basket early in the second half, and a disjointed defensive struggle the rest of the way.
by Mr. Tito Carlos on Mar 18, 2010 7:59 AM EDT reply actions
Ahhhh....I see what you did there.
crossed out the prefix, making the work the complete opposite of what you typed. Love it. In fact, I’ll probably use that in the future.
I just got flashes of “guy who doesn’t understand sarcasm” from Family Guy. Google it. Hilarious.
Anyways, well said Tito. I agree. Tough D early in. Zags won’t know how to handle it to begin, and then they’ll adjust
by Randall W. Spetman on Mar 18, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
For the Zags to combat this, the game must be played from the inside-out to try and use their size to “out-tough” FSU.
Good luck Zaggo.
+1
With all due respect, trying to “out tough” the Noles inside is not the way to go. Our vulnerabilities are hot outside shooters when we defend, turnovers on offense, and no consistent scorer.
I've Seen
FSU play a couple of times this year and without a doubt they are tougher as a team than GU. However, Elias Harris is the toughest, most physical player in the nation this year. He is the same size as Singleton so I think the game will be decided in that matchup.
Good luck with that
You must not have seen what Singleton did to Al-Faroq Aminu- 0 points.
"I am not now at all sure that the tendency to treat the whole thing as a kind of vast game is really good - certainly not for me who find that kind of thing only too fatally attractive." - J R R Tolkein
Should be a good game to watch
Harris is a terrific player, but Singleton is a particularly gifted defender. I’m looking forward to the matchup.
THE toughest?
You couldn’t at least say “ONE OF the toughest”?
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