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Florida State Defensive Ends Coach D.J. Eliot Meets The Press

Florida State Defensive Ends Coach D.J. Eliot met with the press today for the first (possibly only) time this year.  This coverage comes courtesy of Andrew Carter's excellent Chopping Block Blog (Orlando Sentinel).  He has full video.  Here is the first clip.  Head on over to see the rest.   

I really like how he emphasized the importance of working together with Odell Haggins.  Hopefully DC Mark Stoops will emphasize that as well.  Too often it seemed like Florida State's ends and tackles did not work together in a complimentary fashion. AC has a bunch of thoughts here.  This one was most interesting to me:

-Eliot's recruiting responsibility goes like this: He has central Florida, north and west of Orlando. He has southeast Georgia. And upwards to around parts of Atlanta. Nationally, he'll be responsible for Texas. In fact, he has a lot of experience recruiting Texas, which he said is an advantage for him. He knows the high school programs and coaches well out that way. And even when he was coaching at Tulsa earlier in his career, he heavily recruited Texas.

Eliot has produced all-conference players at every level and his resume is very impressive considering where he has coached.  He is considered to be a sizable upgrade to former DE coach Jody Allen, who had no business coaching at Florida State and who had a downright contentious and contemptuous relationship with the players and other staff.

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He does not look like the typical defense line coach.

by gahnki on Mar 4, 2010 3:26 PM EST reply actions  

Personally, I agree with the 250 pound range, our guys are a lot stronger than they may appear and they know how to “shake & bake” when needed. It is not understood when you are on the outside looking in…some of the current DE were fond of Jodi Allen it was MA that was the problem. Once again when your on the outside looking in you don’t know the details . It was very disturbing that D Carter & JA physically faught in front of the players

by dst86 on Mar 5, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree that ability/performance trumps all.

Insanely strong and fast can trump any weight requirement. I think the general thought is that, all things being equal, the more pounds the merrier. See linked articles, Size Matters Part 1, and Part 2.

by arrdub on Mar 5, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I could be wrong...

…but I believe it was about Clay Aiken. Jody said he was underrated, Dex said he was overrated, and then things got physical. I’ve seen it a thousand times…

by Pinto on Mar 5, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe that I can help answer this question (being the big cheese and all...)

Basically the whole things was blown way out of proportion. It was spaghetti day in the cafeteria, and Coach Allen had gotten some sauce on his shirt. Well, it also happened to be team picture day, and Coach Carter, being the nice guy that he is, didn’t want Coach Allen to look goofy with sauce on his face during the picture. He politely walked up to Jody, and wiped the smudge of sauce off of his face. Coach Allen replied with a very courteous “Why thank you Dex!”, and then they gave each other a high five follow through to leg shake…

As you can see, the whole thing was a big misunderstanding.

by Randall W. Spetman on Mar 5, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Shocker:

-Eliot said his ideal size for a defensive end would be about 6-foot-4, 250 pounds.

He obviously hasn’t brushed up on his TN reading material yet.

by arrdub on Mar 4, 2010 3:27 PM EST reply actions  

Wonder if he meant it as a recruit

I heard this and decided to lay off it. Most likely he hasn’t realized the size of guys he can get here.

by Bud Elliott on Mar 4, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree. I think he's not used to driving the cars we'll be able to put in our garage.

His tastes will mature, I am sure. Just look at the guys we recruited this year.

by arrdub on Mar 4, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

true, but

that goes back to the argument as to whether college coaches should be more about preparing guys for the NFL or winning games. If the coaches feel they can win with the 250 lb guys (also if they are 250 as in coming freshman won’t they add weight by the time they are juniors or seniors..but I digress) should they pass up those guys because they want to just put out NFL prospects?

by nolestuff on Mar 4, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I think with Bama, UGA, and sometimes UF now running 3-4 schemes

we can take advantage of a market inefficiency.

Also, you must mold your defense to the opponents you face. Almost every team in Texas’ conference throws the ball 50X a game. They see no spread run game stuff outside of Texas A&M. The need for them to play with leverage and collapse the pocket is less than ours with UF, GTech, NC State, and even Clemson now incorporating more QB run threat.

by Bud Elliott on Mar 4, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I think if you look at the recruiting, it settles it

We brought in 305, 305 and 295 at DT last year.
This year we have 299 and 285 as HS Juniors (probably 305 and 295 when they get here, at least)

Those guys who have some potential or ability to play inside will play outside, and thus will make FSU bigger on the outside.

by Bud Elliott on Mar 4, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

No doubt Fisher is going to have his way anyhow. I meant I hope he doesn't try to do "his thing" here.

I’m probably just paranoind after the decade of not-so-great staff issues.

Yeah, right!

by truecolors on Mar 4, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Think it's just paranoia.

He did say 250 by the time they play, but heck, isn’t that an upgrade over what we currently have? lol
I just don’t see this guy going against Jimbo and trying to sneak in his “own” ideas into the defensive philosophy. I don’t even think “small, quick guys are best” is even his philosophy.

"Trick is right."

by tricknole on Mar 5, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, unless they expect the 275 guys to bulk up to 300 in a couple years

and we recruit accordingly to adjust.

I just think reading into each word these coaches are saying is missing the point of it all. The broad schemes and concepts are what’s important. The teaching of technique and the fundamentals.

This is Fisher’s team. If he wants size he’ll get it. If he wants speed he’ll get it. If he wants both he’ll get it. If a guy is just a tremendous ball player but lacks a little in one of those size/speed categories and Fisher wants him, he’ll go after him. All these coaches have size they want “size with speed”. Not a single one has said, “Well, if a recruit’s got great athleticism and speed but is larger than the prototypical player at his position, we won’t take him.”

"Trick is right."

by tricknole on Mar 6, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Jody Allen should join CUM's staff

Jody Allen, where do I start? When I was a student at FSU, I lived with 3 girls in a house. Jody had a crush on one of them, he would write her love notes all the time. He was a creepy dude; some of the notes were borderline psychotic. He became a stalker, and I had to tell him to leave numerous times. He cried like a baby a few times on my front lawn, late at night. Because she would not return his calls or notes. Good times!!

by chipfsu30 on Mar 4, 2010 3:39 PM EST reply actions  

Seriously?

That is hilarious, scary, and not at all surprising. The players I talked to thought he was racist as hell and Dexter Carter totally punched him.

by Bud Elliott on Mar 4, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Where is Jody selling insurance…I mean .. coaching… these days anyway?

He riddance is almost – and I say almost – as refreshing as Fredo’s was

by 93noleman on Mar 4, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel sorry for them.

SE Georgia Poly is going to run all over them.

by basaltrock on Mar 4, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Jody Allen is actually here:

University West Georgia (Wolves)
Jody Allen – Associate Head Football Coach/Def. Coordinator

He’s wth:
Daryl Dickey – Athletic Director and Head Coach
James Colzie – Defensive Coord./Secondary

I wonder if they play the University of North Alabama?

I wonder if they play University North Alabama?

by GonzoNole on Mar 5, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if he was wearing that dorky ass gardening hat when DC jacked his redneck ass...

If even part of the chipfsu30 story is true, as funny as it is, it is just another sad example of Bobby losing his mind as he aged. Not only was this guy the worst FSU coach of all time, but he is a straight up creep loser. Bobby just wasn’t able to judge successfully personally or professionally in the Lost Decade…

by HROB3 on Mar 4, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope that does not ruin Carter's rep as a coach in the future

Even if the FSU job was over his head, I was hoping if he wanted to still coach he could move to a lower level school and get some experience. Punching a co-worker never sounds good though.

by nolestuff on Mar 4, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Buddy Ryan was lucky to have a rep as a great DC

or else he would not have gotten away with that junk lol

by nolestuff on Mar 4, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Is this necessary?

Even if there is no spin associated with your story, I don’t feel an attack on his dignity is needed. Not trying to be rigthteous. Perhaps, my pre-geezerhood is talking here. Regarding his coaching, I am pleased he is somewhere else.

by TEMPORARY LIKE ACHILLES on Mar 4, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Jody's new gig

“Hi, I’m Jody Allen, the creator of the recipes in Loving Life Cafe Recipes Made with Love. ’’
”http://www.lovinglifecafe.com/new/" target="_blank">http://www.lovinglifecafe.com/new/

Chief Osceola

by Osceola666 on Mar 4, 2010 4:02 PM EST reply actions  

Poor Craig

From Heisman campaign to watching in the stands all in one off-season.

by osceolafan850 on Mar 4, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Their frustration should be directed at Allen, Mickey, and Bobby

Some think (including me) that Allen, who realized he was a lame duck (and many thought he was pretty racist), played Yarborough to spite some of the other guys on the team, even to his own detriment.

by Bud Elliott on Mar 4, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I'm up to speed on all that.

I just never understand why fans of amateur sports rip players who are giving good effort.

by norcal_nole on Mar 4, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think it's okay to make comments about an FSU player

that you wouldn’t make to their face, but I’m old fashioned.

by norcal_nole on Mar 4, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree completely.

And some wiggle room is fine since no one’s line between bashing/evaluating will be in the exact same place – but a lot of the things said about some of our defensive players this year were completely uncalled for.

If people want to rip Jody Allen then by all means – I’ll lob the softballs.

by norcal_nole on Mar 4, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Magum is a perfect example – no talent – but a solid citizen who still shouldn’t be on the field

by 93noleman on Mar 5, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

norcal_nole.... Are you from Soviet Russia? "but I’m old fashioned" communist

Welcome to California

California Pass Bill Banning Cursing
California is ready to ban large flat screen televisions.
California Bill banning of soda and snacks (poor fat kids)
California is bankrupt, chaotic state. (Just like the former Soviet Union)

Maybe your state can ban talking mean about College football players.

by chipfsu30 on Mar 5, 2010 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

what rock did chip crawl out from under?

He goes from Nole football to cheap politics in a flash

Chief Osceola

by Osceola666 on Mar 5, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

it was a joke

“I don’t think it’s okay to make comments about an FSU player
that you wouldn’t make to their face, but I’m old fashioned.”
by norcal_nole

WTF? Every kid gets a trophy mentality! Don’t worry we have a new Mental Conditioning Program. We can say anything now. (I hope they dont cry themselves to sleep at night after reading TN lol)

by chipfsu30 on Mar 5, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

i have a solution

A) precede any negative statement about a player with, “no offense but…” (see Talladega Nights)

2) follow any negative statement about a player with, "not that there’s anything wrong with that)

D) That’s all i got

by beachnole05 on Mar 6, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Personally, I prefer to lead with

A) With all due respect,
2) No disrespect intended,
or
D) While your opinion may be valid or while your opinion is important

and often I use all of them together when the situation warrants.

>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em

by FrankDNole on Mar 6, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not ripping him

Just remembering the Yarbough for Heisman poster we had here. Pure gold.

by osceolafan850 on Mar 4, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Really

Picking up information like that is why many of us are here. There are a lot of cheer leading sites who think there are things you don’t need to know. I don’t see anything here that is not true. There s room for skepticism here as to why Allen thought this end should start over others.

Our defensive end play was miserable at times and Allen was the coach. If he has some Herban Meyer type problems it is interesting to know about it. Actually that explains a lot. If a player is not performing up to expectations it is O.K. to talk about it and discuss it.

" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."

" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!

The process begins!

by DocHoliday2 on Mar 4, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry

Wasn’t trying to rip him, just found it funny that AC put a bullet in his piece to let us know a walk-on would not be returning…

by Pinto on Mar 5, 2010 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Eliot does seem pretty sharp

I would’ve liked it more if he had used specific names when asked about FSU’s tradition at end (I don’t think he did); that would have demonstrated his desire to embrace the tradition here.

But overall, I think he’ll do well for us. I’m looking forward to seeing this staff in action!

by Invictus13 on Mar 4, 2010 4:42 PM EST reply actions  

I love our current ability to steal players out of Texas

Between Eliot’s recruiting knowledge out there, as well as our history of starting players from Texas (CP7, Hopkins, Mangum) and our hopeful future with other players (Holmes, Secord), we can make one heck of a case for a player from the Lone Star State to head to Tallahassee.

by basaltrock on Mar 4, 2010 4:52 PM EST reply actions  

Hold On.....

I’m going to try and not see pulling Mangum out of ANYWHERE as a good thing, haha. Sorry, I know we’ve said no ‘player bashing’, but Corey was the punching bag of ACC offenses this year .(as well as that of all the Florida State sports blogs)

"If somebody mistreats you, treat em' good. That kills em'."
-Bobby Bowden

by NavyNole on Mar 4, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha! I included Korey as showing that Texas players can START

I specifically did not say that all Texas players have been successful or in any way impressive. I simply said that they’ve got a history of starting.

by basaltrock on Mar 5, 2010 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

It won't take much

Anybody would be an improvement. Hell, I think you could put a gorilla in a coach’s shirt and get the same results.

by NoleySmokes on Mar 4, 2010 7:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I can see how some would be nervous still after the last few years

I don’t have any reservations about Fisher’s selections. It has been a long time since I could say that. For years I have second guessed most everything BB and Mickey did.

" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."

" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!

The process begins!

by DocHoliday2 on Mar 4, 2010 8:28 PM EST reply actions  

A hint of gap control on the edges?

I was happy to hear our ends are actually going to play more techniques that just rushing up field and out of the play.

Clinging to my off-season optimism, I really do believe there is some returning talent at D-end, and the kids just need practice time to start learning how to apply their talents within a sound defensive scheme.

Foosball is the devil

by IAHNole on Mar 4, 2010 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

It would have been great if they

had rushed up field. What they seemed to do most often was crash in parallel to the line of scrimmage and absolutely give up contain before reading or reacting to anything. Our end play was phenomenally bad.

fm

Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.

by fmnole on Mar 4, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Marcus White

seemed to rush up field, spin, get pushed by one of the offensive linemen, then be out of the play.

Although new coaching can benefit him some, I think he looked too thin to be effective. I am not sure how fast the new S&C can really build his body up, especially if the coaches want guys in the 270 range. I am not trying to player bash, just discussing his size. Anyone else think he looked more like a linebacker?

by nolestuff on Mar 4, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

He looked like a track star

It was just hard to watch. Fast as hell for a DE but a perfect example of bad speed.

by osceolafan850 on Mar 4, 2010 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Its like the saying goes

There is good speed and bad speed. Good Speed Shuts stuff down. Bad Speed just gets you in the wrong place faster. Doesn’t it seem a bit frustrating that until UM this year the teams that did the best shutting down GT’s TO were the teams that were slower and forced to place disciplined?

"You play to WIN the GAME"

by fsugrizz on Mar 5, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

The weights I've seen listed for him (260?) have always been respectable...

Quite a bit bigger than any our previous/recent guys — E. Brown, K. Wimbley, A. Jackson, etc.

by arrdub on Mar 5, 2010 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

White at 260?

Dang, guess he’s listed on Seminoles.com at 261. There’s just no way. Is there?

And dude, don’t really remember Jackson for the life of me. Davis and Moore I remember from the recent past.

"Trick is right."

by tricknole on Mar 5, 2010 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I just remember seeing his upper body and thinking

he looked skinny. I thought our linebackers looked bigger. So the new coaches need to get his upper body to match his lower body lol

by nolestuff on Mar 6, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I just remember thinking he looked like Toshmon Stevens.

Bout the same height and 98 and 96 look similar on their jerseys. Stevens is listed at 228, White at 261. Definitely did not look like White had 33 pounds on Stevens to me, but maybe he did.

And I didn’t realize White played basketball at Butler.

"Trick is right."

by tricknole on Mar 6, 2010 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

All I care about is...

can he land Ray Drew.

That is my #1 concern.

by noles55 on Mar 4, 2010 8:57 PM EST reply actions  

This kid is also on our radar...

LaMichael Fanning DE
6’7 269
I’d be happy if we got them both! =)

GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!

by NOLEFAN1 on Mar 7, 2010 6:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Never.

lol

"Trick is right."

by tricknole on Mar 7, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Chickillo and Rabasa have gotten some pub on Rivals.

I would also expect a south Florida DE (or 3) to blow up this summer, like every year, and shoot up our board. As FSUn said, long way to go.

"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."

by tricknole on Mar 8, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

He talks to Jim Gladden every day.

I hope Jody Allen sees that while he’s taking his lunch break at the Walmart he’s currently working at.

by MattDNole on Mar 4, 2010 9:26 PM EST reply actions  

you remember?

that very sweet old lady who used to hand out the free mints at Burger King on the Parkway? Jody could do that, but he would need to be coached up by the Mint Granny.

by LincolnHighNole on Mar 5, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

There will be a noticable improvement just from our guys not losing containment

I think there will be some quick results which will make us all excited, but then the progress will come slower as our players start to have to pick up the more challenging aspects of the game.

I suppose thats pretty obvious.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life...no one gets to the Father but through Me"

by FSUvaFan on Mar 5, 2010 7:23 AM EST reply actions  

Catch 22.

Good DE play will lead to better corner and secondary play. Better corner and secondary play will help our DE. New and better schemes in both areas will likely help the other, which in turn will help the other.

"Trick is right."

by tricknole on Mar 5, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Think how easy it has been for FSU's opponents to scheme against Mickey's defense these last few years.

The fact that they can no longer do that should be worth several points a game in and of itself. Now with all these new coaches and new schemes and actually having players being taught how to play defense in a competent manner, FSU will be a MUCH tougher team to beat.

by Egret on Mar 5, 2010 9:00 AM EST reply actions  

My apologies

to the community for my Fanshot (Fansh*t?) My smart mouth gets the best of me at times.

by wnc_nole on Mar 5, 2010 9:51 AM EST reply actions  

Meme?!?!

Meme? Here on TN? I thought I would only read that word in grad school… oh, well, a quick Google search does show that this is also used in internet lingo. But still, it took me by surprise to see the word in something other than an academic article.

by Invictus13 on Mar 5, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Medieval literature

Late 15th century (literature = Thomas Malory; history = Wars of the Roses). Yeah, I know – very practical, with promises of big bucks. Heh.

by Invictus13 on Mar 5, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Many people think of Mead when thinking of Medieval spirits,

but the late 15th century is when English brewers first started adding hops to ale (which is basically beer brewed without hops), thus the beginning of what is now regarded as beer.

But you probably already knew that.

>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em

by FrankDNole on Mar 5, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Update

England was notorious for adding lead and antimony to their silver vessels and pots. I am sure it was a conscious effort to poison the the peasant class and assure the royals reigned supreme. I would be very cautious when it comes to buying any silverware that is English made. Not to mention the fact they deem it worth thousands more if some of the various crowned heads who vowed eternal war against America even drank from them.

Fact is I would steer away from European silver totally as it is only 800 sterling and contains nickel making it easier to mold, which leads to allergies and asthma. Of course most stainless flatware in America also contains nickel and cadmium and some of it is Xray equipment sold to China which is molded into flatware utensils and sold back in the US.

Those “English” brewers were also known to use lead solder and not silver solder. The motto of this story is when browsing ebay and you see British made, keep on scrolling.

" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."

" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!

The process begins!

by DocHoliday2 on Mar 5, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

actually Ale is a kind of beer made with top fermenting yeast

Brewed at around Room Temperature. As opposed to Lager which is Bottom fermenting and must be fermented cold.
They both have hops.

I just got done brewing a Belgian Dubbel delicious.

by willdabeast on Mar 5, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

also hops have been added to beer for thousands of years.

They help in preserving, bitterness, and overall flavor. Very important.

by willdabeast on Mar 5, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

While this is neither important or relevant to this thread, I just had to go back and check if my memory was correct, or if it is truly fried as I have been told repeatedly. I know what you wrote is correct, but so was my comment above about British Ale.

From the history of brewing and some other sites.

Hops were in use in Germany in the 11th century, and in the 15th century they were introduced into Britain from Holland.

The term “beer” was initially used to describe a drink brewed with hops, unlike “ale”.
The use of hops in beer was written of in 822 by a Carolingian Abbot. Again in 1067 by Abbess Hildegard of Bingen: “If one intends to make beer from oats, it is prepared with hops.” Flavoring beer with hops was known at least since the 9th century, but was only gradually adopted because of difficulties in establishing the right proportions of ingredients. Before that, gruit, a mix of various herbs, had been used, but did not have the same conserving properties as hops. Beer flavored without it was often spoiled soon after preparation and could not be exported. The only other alternative was to increase the alcohol content, which was rather expensive. Hopped beer was perfected in the towns of Germany by the 13th century, and the longer lasting beer, combined with standardized barrel sizes, allowed for large-scale export. The German towns also pioneered a new scale of operation and a level of professionalization. Previously beer had been brewed at home, but the production was now successfully replaced by medium-sized operations of about eight to ten people. This type of production spread to Holland in the 14th century and later to Flanders, Brabant and reached England by the late 15th century.

However, my statement was also correct.

In 15th century England, an unhopped beer would have been known as an ale, while the use of hops would make it a beer. Hopped beer was imported to England from the Netherlands as early as 1400 in Winchester, and hops were being planted on the island by 1428. The popularity of hops was at first mixed—the Brewers Company of London went so far as to state “no hops, herbs, or other like thing be put into any ale or liquore wherof ale shall be made—but only liquor (water), malt, and yeast.” However, by the 16th century, “ale” had come to refer to any strong beer, and all ales and beers were hopped, giving rise to the verse noted by the curious antiquary John Aubrey

In 1516, William IV, Duke of Bavaria, adopted the Reinheitsgebot (purity law), perhaps the oldest food regulation still in use through the 20th Century (the Reinheitsgebot passed formally from German law in 1987). The Gebot ordered that the ingredients of beer be restricted to water, barley, and hops; yeast was added to the list after Louis Pasteur’s discovery in 1857.

In conclusion, I am happy that I have not yet reached the burnt out level, not just yet, and still have some functioning long term memory cells. Ok, now I am ready to crack open a brewsky. Oh and BTW, your Belgian Dubbel brew does indeed sound delicious and spicy, and I am willing to bet strong. Cheers.

>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em

by FrankDNole on Mar 6, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

You're right it's just very old terminology.

Right now Ales and Lager represent certain kinds of beer.
Ales more likened to red wine. and Lagers more akin to White.

Oh and yes my dubbel should average out to about 8% :D

by willdabeast on Mar 6, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Anything

is an upgrade from Allen, but I am pretty excited about Eliot on his own merit, not just the notjodyallen angle.

by PadraicTheSeminole on Mar 5, 2010 11:02 AM EST reply actions  

If they recruit an undersized guy

We can also assume they know the guy is stronger than his size indicates, ala Darnell Dockett.

by nolestuff on Mar 5, 2010 4:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

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HONOLULU - SEPTEMBER 2:  Ronald Johnson #83 of the University of Southern California Trojans runs in for a touchdown against Corey Nielsen #8 of the University of Hawaii Warriors during first half action at Aloha Stadium September 2 2010 in Honolulu Hawaii. (Photo by Kent Nishimura/Getty Images)

Lane Kiffin Is Victorious In Debut, No. 14 USC Wins In A Shootout At Hawaii, 49-36

South Carolina quarterback Stephen Garcia, left, celebrates a first-quarter touchdown with South Carolina tackle Kyle Nunn, center, and South Carolina guard Rokevious Watkins, right, during the first half of their NCAA college football game against Southern Mississippi, Thursday, Sept. 2, 2010, at Williams-Brice Stadium, in Columbia, S.C.  (AP Photo/Brett Flashnick) link

South Carolina Rolls Over Southern Miss, Wins 41-13

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