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Thoughts On The Florida State Spring Game

I'm not sure how much one can learn from watching a Spring game.  There are matchups that would not occur in a normal game (namely starters v. walk-ons).  It's important not to draw conclusions from a single scrimmage.  And the defense had only had 12 practices in pads.  But nonetheless, here are my thoughts...

Quarterback  Christian Ponder.  Wow.  Ponder's arm strength looked tremendous.  If he's really not yet full strength as Fisher said, then look out because his arm is already excellent.  The ball that he overthrew Fortson on (I think Jarmon lost it in the sun or just couldn't see it) was enormous.  Ponder was victimized by 2 or 3 drops (at least 2 by walk-ons)  I was very impressed by Will Secord.  I hadn't seen him throw the ball since his senior year of high school, and thought he played well.  I'd even say that if Ponder and Manuel both went down, FSU would be OK with Secord.  Clint Trickett was impressive as well, showing nice mobility and a surprising command of the offense considering he's only been on campus for 3 months.  I would have liked to see more pass protection for the Garnet team, but the lack of protection allowed both to showcase their mobility and improvisation skills.

Running Back  I've been hesitant to say this, but I think Chris Thompson has a chance to start for the 'Noles this year.  He's clearly changed his body, runs low to the ground and is difficult to tackle due to his compact frame.  Thompson won't play much, however, if he fumbles as he did in the 4th quarter.  Debrale Smiley did a nice job on his long run, though to be honest that was created by a defender being in the wrong gap.  It was a nice gesture for Ponder to throw Smiley a pass (dropped), but he doesn't seem like the type of back who will be getting many passes in this offense.  I didn't think Jermaine Thomas played particularly well and Fisher was all over him.  In general the backs seemed much more hyped up to run than they did to pass protect. 

It was clear that the Garnet team's backs were at a disadvantage due to the offensive line.  Lonnie Pryor's numbers were poor, but I did not think his play was poor.  He does many things that aren't credited to him in the scorebook.  Tavares Pressley had a nice 35-yard run which showed good explosiveness, but he only got 3 carries.  Ty Jones was the most impressive back in my eyes.  He consistently hit the right hole and did it with energy.  He's had a very up-and-down career so far but perhaps he could get more carries in the fall.  

Wide Receiver  Rodney Smith, FSU fans.  FSU fans, Rodney Smith.  Everyone notices when 6'6" plays well, and the Sophomore from Miami had himself a day.  Smith caught 3 balls for 69, 41, and 14 yards.  Like many young players, he was somewhat boom or bust and I believe he did have one drop, but he also made several plays when he was well covered.   Jarmon Fortson made 3 very difficult catches, and then dropped a ball as well.  At least he's improving his ratio of highlight catches to drops.  A.J. Alexander showed really nice speed and made a nice catch on the sideline.  Not bad for a guy who just switched positions.

On the Garnet side, Bert Reed continues to step up.  Fisher talked last week about him becoming a leader, but Reed caught everything and looked explosive.  Even putting aside the 70-yard torching of the walk-on corner, Reed stil had 9 catches for 93 yards.  Willie Haulstead is a favorite of the coaches, but he did not look good to me.  Haulstead dropped a few balls and really didn't stand out.  Considering his play throughout the Spring, however,  I'll chalk that up to nerves or something other than ability.

I also thought the receivers blocked quite well, especially considering that FSU's corners are bigger now than they were in the past.

Tight End Beau Reliford ran way too far down the field on a late deep pass (towards the north endzone), drawing Fisher's ire.  I am a Reliford fan but he did not play well, with only a single catch.  The walk on tight end dropped at least two passes and I don't consider walk on performance relevant.  Kudos to Ponder and others for throwing the walk-ons a few balls. Matt Dunham looked better than I thought he would, but I don't typically have any expectations for him.  Ja'baris Little didn't catch my eye. 

Offensive Line  I'm not going to evaluate these guys until I can watch the replay.

 

Defense

Competence.  The defense I saw out there would be in the top half of college football.  Perhaps the most important part of what I saw was the lack of coverage busts.  Yes, there were some big plays allowed.  But most of the big passing plays were contested.  The wide receivers weren't running wide open with no defender around them.  Plus, consider the frequency.  That is,  FSU went deep very often and many of those passes were well defended.  The best example of this was probably the bomb to Rodney Smith.  Dionte Allen was in his pocket the whole time and the 6'6" Smith just made a really nice catch, using his large frame.  I believe they went deep so often to entertain the crowd.  There are very few teams who have the receivers and the quarterback Florida State has.  Many of the big passing plays were great plays by talented wideouts and tremendous throws by a 1st round NFL draft choice.  With only three weeks (12 practices in pads), FSU's defense looked quite competent.  The defense surpassed my expectations for the Spring.

Florida State played cover 3 on the vast majority of snaps.  This is the coverage I had figured they would run.  Nick Moody is a really nice player for the run support in that scheme.  I have to compliment them on their timing.  One of my biggest gripes about the old defense was that it would tip its hand long before the ball was snapped.  The 'Noles defense did a great job (considering how new this defense is) of showing one look and then quickly changing into another right before the snap.  That's known as "stemming."  That is attention to detail that FSU fans should expect from a defense coached by guys making a quarter million per.  I also some some cover 2 and perhaps a bit of cover 4 as well.  But mostly I saw FSU timely stem from a cover 2 look into a cover 3 look.  Also, a big thanks to SWFLNole and his buddy, as they watched coverage when I watched the defensive line. 

Much like the coverage switches, the blitzes were similarly much better timed.  FSU blitzed corners, safeties, and linebackers.  The 'Noles dropped defensive ends and defensive tackles into coverage.

Defensive End  Perhaps no position has benefited more from the position changes than the defensive ends.  I watched the defensive line pretty closely.  The defensive ends did a much better job playing the run.  As a unit, they didn't over pursue nearly as often as they did last year.  Brandon Jenkins is still a bit undersized but he absolutely made plays.  He destroyed Rhonne Sanderson a few times, and Sanderson is not a bad player in his own right.  Jenkins is absolutely benefiting from the new coaching but he also has a lot of natural ability.  Markus White is pretty much the definition of solid.  His work in the weight room is paying off and I think he is primed for a nice senior season.  He is probably going to be the strong-side end FSU has been looking for for a long time.  I was also impressed with Dan Hicks.  Hicks has come a long way and he looks to have some instincts I did not realize he had.  Toshmon Stevens looked a good bit larger and I'm glad that he is getting some more playing time now that coach Allen is gone. 

Defense Tackle  This is a position to which I paid particular attention.  First and foremost, McDaniel was pretty sick and still elected to play.  Knowing that, I'll pass on evaluating him.  The guy who really stood out to me was Amp McCloud.  #92 hasn't played football in 2 years and while he was clearly rusty and a bit inconsistent, he showed some really great flashes.  If McCloud can give 15-20 quality snaps per game this season, that would be a huge boon for the defense.  While Demonte McAllister was frequently going against a walk-on, he was very impressive.  FSU fans should be very happy that the coaches did not give in to McAllister's whining to move to defensive end.  He's a natural 3-technique tackle.  #93 Everette Dawkins also looked really good.  He is a natural with using his hands and playing with leverage.  If Moses McCray comes back healthy, FSU should be in decent shape this year at the defensive tackle position.  I also noticed all the defensive linemen getting their hands up in the passing lanes. 

Linebackers I thought the linebackers were objectively average, but considering how far they have come since last year, I was pretty pleased.  They tackled well and for the most part didn't miss their assignments.  I didn't see any one linebacker stand out from the others.  That's not to say they played poorly, but that they pretty much played their responsibilities.  I have no doubt that the linebackers will be a strength of this team.  The backers were laying some serious hits.  They were sometimes late getting to the receiver in coverage, but it looked to me like they were usually dropping into the correct zone.  It was pretty much what I expected.

The defensive line and linebackers still need a lot of work with their run fits.  Each player is responsible for a specific gap, and some of the better running plays came not because the offense made a great play, but because a defender was not correctly in his gap responsibility. I'll stress that they were plugging the right gaps much more frequently than they used to.  When they did blitz, they did very well, and Nigel Carr stood out on at least one blitz.  Part of the run fits problem is the lack of emphasis it got last year.  It's quite new for the players even if it shouldn't be.

Cornerbacks  FSU has a lot more talent at this position than most realize.  Greg Reid won the defensive player of the Spring award.  I thought Xavier Rhodes had the best Spring game.  Jenije had two pass interference penalties, but they were for being very aggressive and recognizing the underneath pass plays..  Obviously I want the corner to play the ball better than that, but I watched those two plays and he was just very aggressive and got there a hair early.  Allen didn't really stand out to me.  My guess is that when the coaches evaluate the film, they will find that most of these guys were pretty even.  Jenijie had the error that most everyone noticed (due to the flag), but every guy got beat and every guy made good pass breakups.  At this point, I would not be surprised by any of these 4 corners starting and am confident that any of the 4 can do a good job.

Safety I expected this position to improve a lot and I was happy with the effort here too.  I saw guys communicating and though it wasn't smooth, they picked up receivers coming into their zones better than I had expected.  Stoops is an excellent defensive back coach and he's already doing well with the safeties.  Terrance Parks showed some range.  He was almost always the deep safety in the cover 3 look, but he also came down into the box at least 2 times.  Parks had an interception, but the play was not impressive as it was a desperation heave before the half.  The best thing Parks did was get appropriate depth.  There were no instances of guys running wide open down the field past him as FSU fans saw over and over again last year with a different safety on the field.

I'm excited about both Nick Moody and Gerald Demps.  Moody has a chance to be an excellent strong safety in this cover-3 scheme, coming down as the force player and looked good blitzing as well.  Moody had 4 solo tackles on the day and a sack coming through the A gap (I believe).  I've always been a big Gerald Demps fan and some people from Valdosta who know their football say he is one of the most instinctual football players they have been around.  Demps was credited with just a single tackle, but I thought he looked pretty good and did have a pass breakup. 

 

I think you have to be very pleased by the defensive effort.  The defenses combined to allow less than 5.6 yards per play against a very good offense.  Mark Stoops seems to be earning his money, and considering his qualifications there was little doubt that he would.  I really liked how our linebackers were splitting the difference between the open tackle and the receiver (helps to discourage bubble screens).

 

Special Teams

Hopkins is one of the best young kickers in the nation and he looked very good.  I was impressed by Powell's punting.  There was one punt that was poor, but I am not even sure if he hit that one (could have been the backup).

 

The best thing about the last month is that there were no major injuries throughout the entire spring.  Not allowing players to cheap shot each other was a great idea. 

FSU did a tremendous job with the game.  The crowd was great.  The atmosphere was similar to the Bama game a few years ago when the Tide fans had 92,000.  Many of the people around me were my parents age and they all spoke well of the production as well. 

The broadcast was both good and bad.  But the Deckerhoff/ Floyd combo is pretty poor.  Not only did Deckerhoff reveal that FSU was using Greg Reid in the Wildcat in practice, but the announcers didn't know who several returning players were.  Perhaps now that FSU got rid of the guy who wanted PT Willis out the 'Noles can bring back Willis.

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I’m anxious to see how the defense will play with all the starters together, instead of having them split between the two teams. This looks like it has the makings of a respectable defense this year, which would, of course, be lightyears ahead of last season. I think we’re finally on our way.

Impressed by the S&C, too. Granted, my memory may simply be poor on this, but I thought I noticed our guys being in much better shape out there.

I like Stoops’s scheme. They’re not getting beat down the field, and the system allowed them to do an infinitely better job of covering the short- to intermediate-range passing game.

Hat’s off to the coaches, especially Stoops, Hudson and the rest of the D staff. That’s pretty damned impressive for only a few weeks of work on the field.

Agreed on Thompson, too. I really liked what of him.

by Drew J Jones on Apr 12, 2010 4:17 AM EDT reply actions  

I thought Deckerhoff was kind of clumsy with the broadcast

It was briefly mentioned in the other thread, but just before the game started, he was reviewing his notes and he and Floyd were looking over the Spring practice award winners. They started joking about a guy who had won Most Dependable, with Floyd saying that this guy was “Most Dependable to get burned” and Deckerhoff saying how he didn’t think the kid was all that good, but the coaches liked him for some reason. He then told a brief story about asking the kid about winning the award one day after practice.

Later in the game, they brought up Jenije winning the Most Dependable award for DBs, and Deckerhoff told the exact same story he said earlier before the game. So obviously Deckerhoff and Floyd were just trashing Jenije before they were officially on-air.

I thought talking about Greg Reid being used on offense was kind of strange too.

by SeminoleSkins87 on Apr 12, 2010 4:38 AM EDT reply actions  

My thought on Jenijie is that if Stoops plays him, I'll trust the decision

Stoops is motivated, has had 4 corners go in the first 3 rounds of the draft in the last decade, and has to play the best kid. I really like our depth there.

by Bud Elliott on Apr 12, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention he'll have a new toy named Mike Harris come August.

Also, depends on what they do with LJ. If you really like the depth, I really really like the depth.

"Because I'm the head cheese, yall"

by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 12, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Jenijie will be fine.

I most definitely saw improvement from him.

by 504Nole on Apr 12, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

not impressed with Jenije in the G&G game

but I know that Jimbo thinks he is probably our best corner. Either Jenije had a bad spring game, or we are weak at corner (except for Reid, of course).

Opponents: start to panic... now!

by TLHWG on Apr 13, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's time for Gene to hang it up

Nice guy, and he’s done a great job over the years, but like some other nice guys who used to be around here he has outlived his usefulness. William Floyd, though enthusiastic, just doesn’t have the talent to be a color analyst. Someone should signal to the bullpen and bring in Tom Block and P.T. Willis. If P.T. won’t come back, and he has every right to tell FSU to kiss off, I’d be in favor of using Danny Kanell. He did a good job in the one game I saw him work last season.

by Dauntless12 on Apr 12, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

hoooohoooohoooo

I see what you did there. I almost lost it, but then I got it….wheeeewwww. Good one Frank

Bring back Peter Tom Willis— a true Nole! -FiestaNole

by Miaminole on Apr 12, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haitian heritage--

French pronuniciation: Luke

"You're either carrying a spear, or running from it"

by BigSpearDiplomacy on Apr 12, 2010 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just like my favorite linebacker on the team.

Nigel Brada-whooya-booya-what’s-it-to-ya.

That’s how I pronounce it, I don’t care if it’s right!!!

by MattDNole on Apr 12, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

???

It was intentionally stupid in order to show how ridiculous it is to purposely call a man by the wrong name.

I demand to retract the womp womp.

by MattDNole on Apr 12, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was an addition womp womp

As in I felt it would be well placed. The LOL did it for me, as in who is this guy mispronouncing names. I didnt feel like your barb was sharp enough. Therefore, the womp womp stands.

by Miaminole on Apr 12, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sigh....The dude abides

Womp womp retracted

Bring back Peter Tom Willis— a true Nole! -FiestaNole

by Miaminole on Apr 12, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's very nice of you

I’m sure he would appreciate it

I know you can fight. But it's our wits that make us men.

by TitanNole on Apr 12, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Mizell and Downs get enrolled this summer, will they be eligible to play in the fall?

Old, slow, and dangerous, but still serving a purpose.
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em

by FrankDNole on Apr 12, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love it

Mizell and Downs hope those kids find away to make it happen somewhere. Mizell at WSU

by 21nole24 on Apr 12, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, at least Downs will still play.

And Callahan Bright will add some MUCH needed depth on the OL

"Bring back Fred Rouse--a true Nole"

by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 12, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's just got one more test to take

and his chances of making the score he needs are pretty good. Then again, I heard he has a REALLY hot tutor, and he’d like to keep her around a bit longer. I heard that’s why he’s not enrolled right now!

by PBD on Apr 12, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats twice in less than 2 minutes where you almost got me riled up again.

DAMNIT FRANK

Bring back Peter Tom Willis— a true Nole! -FiestaNole

by Miaminole on Apr 12, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why not?

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

"But How will I know limits from lies, if I never try."

by geoffissiffoeg on Apr 12, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like how Gene talked about Reid in offense. Even Jimbo hinted at that too.

Give teams something else to prepare for even if we don’t use it.

GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!

by NOLEFAN1 on Apr 12, 2010 5:47 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm at odds with a lot of folks on this...

But I think you just get the ball in that guy’s hands. He doesn’t need to spend any time being “coached” for it, the man has about a 25% chance of finding the end zone every time he touches it.

Risking injury is the only concern, and it’s a small one, to me… you can’t hurt what you can’t touch.

by arrdub on Apr 12, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd be pissed if I were Fisher

Is that an overreaction on my part?

Non Mollare, non mai mollare!
ItaliaNole A.K.A. SavvysNole

by ItaliaNole on Apr 12, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps

The cat as out of the bag as between the writers but out of respect for the team I wasn’t putting it on the site.

by Bud Elliott on Apr 12, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love Jimbo as much as the next guy,

but I’m taking Deck in a fight. I’ve heard he can bench 425 and knows karate.

"Bring back Fred Rouse--a true Nole"

by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 12, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, that goes without saying.

He learned it from eating all that sushi and tempura.

"Bring back Fred Rouse--a true Nole"

by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 12, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trick Jr. looked fine. He would like another inch or 2 and 40 pounds

but his motion, footwork, and release are great.

Throws a fantastic ball, just needs a bit of mustard which should come with a bit of size.

Team Gold

by truecolors on Apr 12, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fear the head butt from Gene

Have you seen the size of the melon on this guy? Huge.

by Dauntless12 on Apr 12, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

made me laugh.

earned you a rec.

"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher

by RishiM on Apr 13, 2010 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

and I know this was a shot at CUM

"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher

by RishiM on Apr 13, 2010 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was pleased with my 3 darkhorses in the spring game.

Demps, Rhodes & Pressley all had nice games.

GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!

by NOLEFAN1 on Apr 12, 2010 5:48 AM EDT reply actions  

I was really happy to see Pressley get some carries.

I find myself rooting really hard for TP. The kid has so much ability, and he comes across the universe to play for us, and he gets a stroke of bad luck. Really hoping he gets a shot or two this year.

"Because I'm the head cheese, yall"

by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 12, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish he would have gotten more carries in the game.

Glad to see him have the burst people were talking about.

by 504Nole on Apr 12, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pressley (1st scrimmage/spring game) = 6 carries for 83yds 1 TD.

Not too shabby. I think Gran is high on him due to the combo of speed, size & senior.
He has a nice burst with vicious cut ability. Also he seems to not fumble which the coaches like. If he continues to improve he will see a lot of PT this fall.

GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!

by NOLEFAN1 on Apr 13, 2010 6:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

thank you

thanks for the wrap up I wasn’t able to be at the game. I want P T back in the booth I SEE YOU is a great catch phrase.

by Mr.Wolf on Apr 12, 2010 6:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Didn't he get canned?

For saying Jeff’s offense was like a high school offense. If so, that sucks, because he was dead on!

by NoleySmokes on Apr 12, 2010 7:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

this is very good

the man was ahead of his times

by RollNole5 on Apr 12, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

This article brings back some memories

and I can’t recall how many people I forwarded it to because it was on point. Rec’d for sure.

"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi

by 1newplayer on Apr 12, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

GREAT POST! recd

It further illustrates why Jimbo never should have been coach-in-wiating but Head Coach from day one. They made the right pick, but they should have done it A LOT sooner!

by SoCalNole on Apr 12, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clint Trickett

I gotta say I was kinda impressed with the kid… He looked real skinny but being as he is an EE he will bulk up by the time he gets his shot…. Maybe it’s just me but with the lack of pass protection he got towards the end of the game he looked alot like what ponder did his sophmore year… Not comparing don’t get me wrong but you could tell he started to settle down and just play ball is the second half. I like what I see out of our back ups at this stage so far. At the very least we should have some depth it looks like

by ValdostaNole on Apr 12, 2010 7:34 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I thought he was very impressive considering he was playing HS football 6 months ago or so.

However, I’m not convinced that he’s an automatic lock to start before Secord. I was before the spring game, and I know he’s expected to, but Secord IMO has enough ability to push the competition.

"Because I'm the head cheese, yall"

by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 12, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tricket - He is short and doesn't seem to have a strong arm

and looks like a twig. He has some things going for him but this is not your prototypical looking QB at the college or the NFL level. In Jimbo I trust but this kid doesn’t look like he is suppose to be the starter for two years after EJ.

I hate to say it but he reminded me of Rooster the way he has to whip his arm to throw the deep out in warmups. Again, he was not bad in action and showed a few things but I am hoping we get another QB next year to be safe.

by 93noleman on Apr 12, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trick Jr. looked fine. He would like another inch or 2 and 40 pounds but

his motion, release, footwork are great.

needs a little mustard on the throw but that should come with size.

Team Gold

by truecolors on Apr 12, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

6'2'' is not short

365 days, until I change my ways.

by SWFLNole. on Apr 12, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's got wheels and a good arm

Considering he was in high school around xmas I think its a little early to write him off.

Team Gold!

by GrassyNole on Apr 12, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

you dont really believe he is 6’2’’ cause that what the progam states – He seemed 6’ even at best

by 93noleman on Apr 13, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw him on campus yesterday

I’m 6’1, and he looked my height, maybe slightly taller. So 6’2 is legit

by basbalstr101 on Apr 13, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Trick Jr. has good mechanics and looked good on a few plays. I just don’t think he fits the physical and athletic mold of a QB that Jimobo recruits (Ponder, EJ, etc.). Unless he goes through a growth spurt, all people need to be able to realize that they don’t have the physical gifts to compete at a certain level. I remember when I realized this back in high school—depressing, but something I had to accept.

Opponents: start to panic... now!

by TLHWG on Apr 13, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

See, I think he will.

Ponder was 6’2 205 when he arrived. Scout has Trick at 6’2 180. IMO, he can add what he needs to in order to be effective. He doesn’t have to be as muscley (awesome word, huh?) as Ponder to be successful

"Bring back Fred Rouse--a true Nole"

by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 14, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I came away very impressed with Secord

From what I saw he has tremendous pocket presence and a great feel for defenders.

Team Gold!

by GrassyNole on Apr 12, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great write up--

I really love the "The defense surpassed my expectations for the Spring’ quote. From everything fans have been posting this is the theme that stands out the most. Yes, Noles…Stoops has earned his pesos so far…

"You're either carrying a spear, or running from it"

by BigSpearDiplomacy on Apr 12, 2010 7:56 AM EDT reply actions  

biggest surprises to me were...

Rodney Smith, he looked huge, coordinated and very athletic, i think hes gonna be very good…
Demonte McAllister, going against backups, walkons or starters, he just looked impressive, a little on the small side, but he was still in the backfield damn near every play.

and lastly Amp Mccloud, for not playing football in 2 years wow, he was plugging up the middle all day, and he still has the whole summer to get in better shape, look out, i think the d-line is going to be very taltented, in particular the DT’s of mccalister,dawkins,mcdaniel,mccloud and mccray.

"theres two types of people in this world, those who CARRY a spear and those who FEAR the spear"-James Coley

by jfree on Apr 12, 2010 8:33 AM EDT reply actions  

IMO, best summary yet

I especially like noting that while there were some big gains because there were many big pass plays on some egregious mismatches (e.g., 1st string vs. 4th string, etc.). That said, I noticed that we have a stable of tall, strong receivers. No RBs stood out—they each had great moments and moments looking average.

Last, Jimbo is one intense guy… he got in players’ ears after almost every play… esp. on the interception and forward lateral.

p.s. I didn’t know who anyone was whose # was > 68 (basically almost all O & D linemen) since they weren’t on the roster handed out!

Opponents: start to panic... now!

by TLHWG on Apr 12, 2010 8:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Have any of you guys though about 2, 3 years down the road?

Our WR corp? Smith/Haulstead/Green/Shaw/Dent/Johnson?

That’s scurry right there.

"Because I'm the head cheese, yall"

by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 12, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean this is our last year with both...

or do you mean we get them for 2011 too? Aren’t both juniors?

Team Gold

by AMFKNole on Apr 12, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to question

but Seminoles.com lists Reed as a redshirt Sophomore as of last season, i.e. a redshirt Junior next season and available as of 2011. Wasn’t he class of 07 and Fortson class of 08?

Team Gold

by AMFKNole on Apr 12, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correct.

Bert was 2007, and Jarmon was 2008

"Because I'm the head cheese, yall"

by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 12, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I see what you're saying...regarding Bud's comment.

Yeah, Bert will be a Jr. this year, apparently.

These guys began playing at such a young age, that it seems like our experienced guys should be seniors by now, but they aren’t. Good problem to have.

"Because I'm the head cheese, yall"

by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 12, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't catch it either

Also, we forgot to add Gehres when talking about our future WR corp. I know the Gates are concerned with how to deal with him in 2012

"Because I'm the head cheese, yall"

by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 12, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fortson is gone IMO.

Barring an injury, God forbid.

However, if he did stay, that’s even worse for opposing defenses.

"Because I'm the head cheese, yall"

by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 12, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very true

But.

1.) He’s physically ready
2.) JMan probably wouldn’t turn down NFL money
3.) Risk of injury/off the field issue is too great, IMO.

I’d guess that NFL scouts are already well aware of Fortson.

"Bring back Fred Rouse--a true Nole"

by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 12, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

...aware of his drops? : ) I'm saying who knows how he performs on Saturdays

I guess you’re saying even if he’s not as high a pick he will take the money and run?

Team Gold

by truecolors on Apr 12, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's exactly what I'm saying.

Could he come back as a senior? Hell yes…he could drop every damn ball thrown to him. You’re 100% right about that.

However, I don’t expect this to happen. NFL scouts see his potential and his body, and will tell themselves “We can fix the hands problems”

"Bring back Fred Rouse--a true Nole"

by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 12, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't get to watch the game.

It sounded like a lot of dropped passes. Many by walk ons that won’t ever have another pass thrown to them. But Reliford and a few others that should be catching the ball more consistently. It also seems like we have a stable of talented backs but someone or maybe two need to be more consistent in their game. They have a great day and fall off the next. Is Moses supposed to ready in the fall and who else will be back from injury that didn’t play in this game?

by Jbeau on Apr 12, 2010 9:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Re dropped passes

Remember that every player on the roster got PT, e.g., 4 year walk-ons, etc., so there were some drops but some of those were not starters.

Opponents: start to panic... now!

by TLHWG on Apr 12, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

It would be more of a problem if they were closer in age.

However, we’ve got it spread out…2 Sophmores, 1 Junior, and 2 Seniors, correct? Plus, It’s pretty much how Jimbo’s offenses at LSU worked. RB by committee

"Because I'm the head cheese, yall"

by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 12, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhh...forgot about Smiley.

And for some reason I thought JT was a senior this year. That’s good freaking news, though.

"Because I'm the head cheese, yall"

by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 12, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for this write-up, Bud.

I wasn’t able to attend and was anxious to see analysis of this sort. Now, here’s what has me worried — in a way, at least — where are the really big holes in this team?

Honestly, we appear to have people stepping up in all the areas that were big question marks (i.e., basically the entire defense). I think about these units and, with some assumptions about the coach’s capacities to teach them — and I don’t have any of the deep-in-the-gut worrisome feelings the preceded many of the previous seasons. Injuries/depth could take their toll, but I have to say these two-deep depth charts are pretty doggone impressive, with a couple newcomers to be added this summer (noted in parens) that could bolster things even further.

DE: White, Jenkins, Stevens, Hicks (Werner, Cummings)
DT: McDaniel, Dawkins, McCloud, McAllister (Jacobs, Erving)
LB: Bradham, Williams, Smith, Carr, Luc, Alexander, (C. Jones, Smith, Terrell)
CB: Reid, Rhodes, Jenije, Allen, (Harris, Joyner)
S: Parks, Moody, Demps, Harley (Abrams, Dent)

So, it appears we have a lot of talented options across the board… DT is still the concern de jour, but this is only related to potential injury concerns — our 2-deep is better than what we’ve been able to field in the last few years.

by arrdub on Apr 12, 2010 10:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Holes

We’re a year away from having good DLine depth. Unfamiliarity with the scheme due to it being the first year could be considered a hole. We have some 2nd and 3rd year guys who don’t project to contribute at all (Ed Imeokporia and J. Jackson). Elite teams don’t hold on to guys like that, and I suspect in 2011 FSU will not either.

by Bud Elliott on Apr 12, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Letting the weak links go

has been talked a lot about on this site – has that actually happened to anyone yet?

by 93noleman on Apr 13, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks alot for the writeup

I thought you hit alot of the positions really well with the coverage, except for linebackers,
Alot of guys really made some good plays especially V.williams, and luc, bradham had a nice hit but never saw anything from Smith all game…

by phi*tau-nole on Apr 12, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Mister Alexander injury

I thought I read somewhere he limped off the field and didn’t return. Any news there? It would be a real shame if he were hurt again, especially since he seemed to be killing it in spring practice.

Sheriff Branford: The fact that you are a sheriff is not germane to the situation.
Buford T. Justice: The god damn Germans got nothin' to do with it!

by GonzoNole on Apr 12, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

What shocked me about Mister in the spring game was

his size… the kid is 6’3"! Tallest guy on D. He appeared to play okay—not great, not terribly. I don’t know if being 6’3" is good for a LB, but he definitely has a presence on the field.

Opponents: start to panic... now!

by TLHWG on Apr 13, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bud

you got an invite to picasa pics.

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by onebarrelrum on Apr 12, 2010 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Cool. Was going to say.

That goes for anyone that wants to see some larger shots. Send an email to that address and I’ll forward a link. I’ll try to send it out at the same time to anyone that is interested. Posting all of them on here would be…a bit silly.

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by onebarrelrum on Apr 12, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know too much about a lot of this...

Our strong safety is lined up on the weak side of the line, in this instance, why is that?

by IndyFSUnole on Apr 12, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Okay I messed that up

I was trying to get this under the first pic

by IndyFSUnole on Apr 12, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

or the cool football name

Magnum….

"You're either carrying a spear, or running from it"

by BigSpearDiplomacy on Apr 12, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

errrrr

Man-gum—-which def does not sound as cool.

"You're either carrying a spear, or running from it"

by BigSpearDiplomacy on Apr 12, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is no strong side in the first picture.

We only have six guys on the line in that picture. No tight end.

by Nole75 on Apr 12, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's definitely a tight end

The right guard is really hard to see.

Unless you mean by the WR motioning it now creates no strong side because the TE post motion is the EMOL

by Bud Elliott on Apr 12, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

The right guard is covered up in the picture?

Ok.

That means it really gets complicated if the SS goes to the weak side under certain conditions. That is a lot of studying to do.

by Nole75 on Apr 12, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can hardly see him, either 75.

Bud, It’s clear what the next step in our analysis needs.

Blimp Shots.

I’d be more than willing to do this (for the good of the site, of course), assuming that TN will be covering 100% of the cost, and PhillyNole goes with me.

"Because I'm the head cheese, yall"

by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 12, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very good. I'll report in August.

Tell Matt I’ll need a photographer. I cannot fly the blimp, entertain PhillyNole, and be expected to take quality photographs at the same time.

"Because I'm the head cheese, yall"

by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 12, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can I drive the blimp, I have a near spotless record?

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by Miaminole on Apr 12, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely.

We’ll have a TN Blimp party.

"Because I'm the head cheese, yall"

by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 12, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

As long as it's not Coley or you'd never have a steady shot

;)

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"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher

by RishiM on Apr 13, 2010 3:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd because of the text and arrow

Freaking hilarious!

"Bring back Fred Rouse--a true Nole"

by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 12, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you a CIA analyst?

That zoom in/blow up is great, and funny too. Now I get it. Do you have any enhanced photos of grassynole? (I love that name). Maybe we could reopen the findings of the Gerald Warren Commission.

by Nole75 on Apr 12, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops.

“Brandon” Warren Commision. Oh well. The moment is past. The punchline is blown.

by Nole75 on Apr 13, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

HAHA,

No worries, still makes me want to watch JFK again.

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by onebarrelrum on Apr 13, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Having Greg Reid sitting on the comeback

is a recipe for interceptions.

I’m ok with those kinds of routes being the things that our base defense will be attacked on. The comeback in particular, requires arm strength, a clean break by the receiver, and timing. Much narrower margin for error than the throws we were giving up last year.

Most of the big plays (save some walk on mistakes) were heavily contested.

I said this before in the gameday thread, but I would have taken either team’s starting defense over the 2009 starting defense. The difference was night and day in a short amount of time. They just need to be in the middle of the pack in the ACC for FSU to have a legitimate path to the ACC championship, and I think they will do that.

by fsu44 on Apr 12, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I said this before in the gameday thread, but I would have taken either team’s starting defense over the 2009 starting defense. The difference was night and day in a short amount of time. They just need to be in the middle of the pack in the ACC for FSU to have a legitimate path to the ACC championship, and I think they will do that.

by Bud Elliott on Apr 12, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cover 4

is the best way to get basically 9 in the box.

by oline0175 on Apr 12, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whenever you feel the need to post these, please do so.

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by FSUvaFan on Apr 12, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great eval, but I think the LB core was way more than average..

They were very much improved, and we’re talking guys like Mr. and smith that were awful fundamentally. I think the most all of the “late” arrivals in coverage were do to excellent passes. A few are routes that are “gimies” in this scheme. (i.e. "you can have that 4 yard pass to the outside all day, or the 30 yard comeback, or the fade to the wide side. cause they are either very difficult passes, or will net very little.)

I was very disapointed in Jermaines Pass Pro he missed at least 3 and it’s not like this is all new to him.

TE is going to be a problem. We are very shallow and Reliford just has a ton of trouble reading coverage and running the approptiate rout…..STILL.

S was the stronges improvement IMO though we only have 3 legit safties. at this point Parks, Moody, and Demps.

DT was emensly improved and should be just deep enough provided no injuries.

CB I disagree with the Jenije eval.. he’s just a step too slow even still. he had deep responsibility on the Rohdes pass and got beat right at the snap of the ball. Reid and Rohdes should start i think though Rohdes missed a couple assignments He’s huge!. and I’m not sure about Allen cause he didn’t get much attention.

any case that’s my story for what it’s worth.

Team Gold

by truecolors on Apr 12, 2010 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

The LBS are definitely improved

Just didn’t watch them as much and didn’t want to say “this guy really stood out”. Did you see one LB stand out from the others?

by Bud Elliott on Apr 12, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

No I my impression was WOW they are ALL playing MUCH better. Hudson is a great teacher.

I think considering the pressure they put on LB’s in this scheme they did tremendous and A LOT of the passes would not have been completed by any QB we will face this year save possibly Okla and UF (verdict still out)

Team Gold

by truecolors on Apr 12, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Very much like him... blown away when he walked out of the tunnel! HUGE and not at all slow.

Think he’ll start in the end cause he only made a few miststeps (though one was huge…turned a guy loose case he thought he had help) But he’s still new to defense, so I think by fall He and Reid start…wild guess I know based on the limited info we have.

My money is on Harris and Joyner to get Serious PT by then end of the year.

Team Gold

by truecolors on Apr 12, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lets not forget taht

Mike Harris can ball too. I thought that some where expecting him to be able to come in and start. Is tehre any chance given our lack of depth at safety that we use greg reid’s ability to ball hawk as the free safety at time this year?

Team GOLD

by fsugrizz on Apr 12, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh i dont either

I just remember the UM game where he was just kind of roaming when he got that first pick and I was wondering if we’d ever use him in the middle of the deep cover 3 ever once in awhile but surely not a starter or having large PT at the spot.

Team GOLD

by fsugrizz on Apr 12, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

IMO Reid has the instincts to play FS

But not the measurables. I like a FS with some length. Reid is a bit on the short side to play FS. If anything I’d say Joyner is better suited to play FS because he has such long arms but even him I wouldn’t put there. A guy like Parks who is a little taller and longer is better suited to be a centerfielder.

by fsucj2431 on Apr 13, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

A few things....

First, minor edits

The guy who really stood our to me was Amp McCloud.

Spring game. Jenije had two pass interference penalties, but they were for . Obviously

Second, something just occurred to me; if the defense plays well, the analysis here will only improve since there will be actually responsibilities and stuff to report on. It wont just be calling out terrible defense (not that you did, you know what I mean.)

Also, I AM GETTING EXCITED!!!! I am planning on going with some buddies to the OU game.

The defense I saw out there would be in the top half of college football.

AWESOME

Finally:

Not allowing players to cheap shot each other was a great idea.

I laughed pretty hard at that. Was there just a bit of passive aggressiveness there, and if so, I loved it.

Excellent post.

by Miaminole on Apr 12, 2010 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Great job.

First, thanks for deleting the drivel from the Spring game thread.

Second, what do you think the chances are that Brandon Jenkins puts on sufficient good weight over the next 5 months?

Third, what are the chances that one of the freshmen can step into the TE role relatively soon? I’m guessing we will not be able to completely open the offense until we have a miami-quaility TE.

Tell our enemies: "Justice is coming."

by PeachTreeNole on Apr 12, 2010 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

I think Jenkins will keep adding good weight. Not the amount that I think he'll play at as a JR or SR, but I think he'll get bigger.

I don’t typically like young tight ends. Beau had a good Spring overall, perhaps he just had an off day. Or maybe we can limit his role despite making him a bit more predictable.

by Bud Elliott on Apr 12, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's surprisingly small in terms of body mass

Still has a lot of room to grow, and some bad weight to shed. I really question his work ethic. He’s a “enough-to-get-by” kinda guy.

by ricobert1 on Apr 12, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is there anything TN can do, start a facebook page or something?

I want FSU to be a school and program that is envied for its excellence in every facet.

by Miaminole on Apr 12, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

BALL OUT!

best/worst call amongst commentators

by ricobert1 on Apr 12, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if William Floyd wears Balls Out Jeans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrl5sYmApcI

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by FrankDNole on Apr 12, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sold on PT

Granted, I wasn’t in radio range for most of PT’s time, but in those games I did hear he was a bit too much of a “homer” for me – I like the almost-objective style of the old days (Gene and Vic in the 80s, early 90s). You could tell they were the FSU announcers, but they didn’t go overboard with the partiality.

The gators went “Homer” a lot earlier, and I associate that style with them and unprofessionalism. And ANYTHING that reminds me of Hubert’s absolutely grating voice is a bad, bad thing.

by Invictus13 on Apr 12, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mick Hubert mentioned Tim Tebow 5 times in the first quarter or the UF spring game.

I don’t hate him for being a gator. I hate him because he’s terrible.

"Because I'm the head cheese, yall"

by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 12, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes!

I hate his voice more than anything – it doesn’t matter what team he covers. His voice is relatively tolerable at normal speaking level, but when he starts getting excited it just gets more and more grating. Ugh.

Actually, I don’t even know if he’s terrible otherwise. I think he is, but my ears are always bleeding by the time he shuts up that I haven’t really absorbed the meaning of the words.

by Invictus13 on Apr 12, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe we can start a silent campaign on this board by

everyone, every single poster, changing their sig line to “Bring back Peter Tom Willis— a true Nole!” :)

Tell our enemies: "Justice is coming."

by PeachTreeNole on Apr 12, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Love your sig line :)

Altogether now:

Bring back Peter Tom Willis— a true Nole!

by PeachTreeNole on Apr 12, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm in...

"Bring back Fred Rouse--a true Nole"

by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 12, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

I know you can fight. But it's our wits that make us men.

by TitanNole on Apr 12, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, what?

Bring back Kory Magnum— a true Nole!

by SoCalNole on Apr 13, 2010 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

ya' always were a little slow, Randy.

:)

Bring back Peter Tom Willis— a true Nole!

by PeachTreeNole on Apr 12, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know, 2 months from now, when youve changed your sig line

That post isnt going to make any sense at all. I hope you’re proud of yourself.

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by Miaminole on Apr 12, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

done and done

Bring back Peter Tom Willis— a true Nole! -FiestaNole

by BS37FSU on Apr 12, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go to your user page and click "Edit Profile"

Sig line is half way down

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by RaysnNoles on Apr 12, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

O-Line Goes to work.

Same play right off the ball, and immediately following.

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by onebarrelrum on Apr 12, 2010 11:22 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Killer photos!

would love to steal a few and save them on my comp.

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by Miaminole on Apr 12, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

if you want-

send me an email to seadawg18@hotmail.com and I’ll send you a link.

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by onebarrelrum on Apr 12, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

done and done, thanks.

Bring back Peter Tom Willis— a true Nole! -FiestaNole

by Miaminole on Apr 12, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

And Datko having none of it

He recognized it right away. You can tell in the first photo with the way he throws that left arm backward to gain depth. He ends up with a great angle on Moody. Awesome photos, btw.

>>---l>

by DKfromVA on Apr 12, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks All.

As I told Bud, really hope to be able to take a bunch like this during the season. We’ll see how it works out.

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by onebarrelrum on Apr 12, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah Datko is eating that up

"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi

by 1newplayer on Apr 12, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Datko is a beast

He’s got enough of that “crud” to go around. Every time I see him play he seems to play smarter as well. I would not want to have to line up against those boys come next fall

I know you can fight. But it's our wits that make us men.

by TitanNole on Apr 12, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Couple more for Garnet side, just to be fair.

McDaniel out of position maybe?

Ochuko doing a nice job here looks like.

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by onebarrelrum on Apr 12, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

that is a good call..

looks a DB came up late, so he would drop. I love the switching around, so NOT last year “make a play”. Come on football season already….

"You're either carrying a spear, or running from it"

by BigSpearDiplomacy on Apr 12, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or he could be twisting

I think the other DT (#57?) is on the outside shoulder of the RT

by ricobert1 on Apr 12, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was a twist

You just see the LT get such greater depth in his pass set than the RT on this play. At least thats what I think because the Dend and Tackle to the opposite appear to be stunting as well.

by 21nole24 on Apr 12, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow Datko still has a lot of room to add good weight to his frame

if he is able to continue to pack on the lbs and maintain his mobility, he might go to a late 1st rd pick (almost definite at this point IMO) in 2012 to a top 10 pick!

"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher

by RishiM on Apr 12, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

datko's draft status

what do u guys feel about datko’s draft status? i always thought if he continued to grow and improve he would be 1st-2nd rounder

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by gdbatt4 on Apr 12, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you could probably say that.

He’s talented as all get out, and as Rishi pointed out, he can still add some weight.

However, then you have the idiosyncratic factors of each draft (the need for OL from certain teams with picks in rounds 1 and 2, the depth of the OL class, etc)

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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 12, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always mix up where Datko and Spurlock are from

Which one is from STA and which one is from Tennessee?

I know you can fight. But it's our wits that make us men.

by TitanNole on Apr 12, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great writeup

and this game really makes me excited for the fall. The most interesting position battle for me has to be running back. At the beginning of the year I would have penciled in Jermaine Thomas as the runaway starter and called it a day, but things have changed. It’s unbelievable the wealth of talent at that position and I wouldn’t be surprised if someone started to steal some of Jermaine’s carries.

"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi

by 1newplayer on Apr 12, 2010 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

I haven't seen

How the coaching staff was split up—didn’t the players draft them as well?

by wnc_nole on Apr 12, 2010 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

From memory..

I know that Gran/Coley ran a team, and Stoops/Craig/Eliot ran the other.

can’t remember where Hud/Trick was

"Bring back Fred Rouse--a true Nole"

by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 12, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

If my memory serves me correctly

Hudson was on the Garnet sideline. I didn’t see where Trick was

I know you can fight. But it's our wits that make us men.

by TitanNole on Apr 12, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perspective for 2010 Attendance at 53K

2009 Spring Football Attendance

1. Ohio State 95,722
2. Alabama 84,050
3. Nebraska 77,670
4. Penn State 76,500
5. Florida 65,000
6. Tennessee 51,488
7. Michigan 50,000
8. Auburn 45,381
9. Texas 44,000
10. Georgia 42,458
11. Virginia Tech 41,000
12. Florida State 36,000
13. Mississippi State 31,606
14. Notre Dame 31,104
15. LSU 30,532

I noticed UGA was down from last year at 38K this weekend. But an increase in 17K is significant.

by coonhound on Apr 12, 2010 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Nick Moody

Something made me uneasy that I wanted to point out about Moody. My memory is a little hazy, but there was a play in or near the south end zone where Moody put a good hit on someone on the Gold team (forget who it was). I was sitting in the first few rows of section 13 so I had an awesome view of the hit, but I remember thinking it was unnecessary at the time given that it was a teammate.

I’m really excited to see Moody light up other teams next year, but my issue was with the way he responded on the next play – the one in which there was a PI call that was ruled uncatchable. It looked like he was playing really sloppy and pretty much ran into the receiver and knocked him to the ground. This might have been a result of being rattled from the hit, being overly pumped from the contact, or even just coincidence, but either way it seemed very undisciplined to me. Anyone else notice it?

by MWM Nole on Apr 12, 2010 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I think I know the hit you're talking about was

on Jarmon Fortson….I think that may have been a flag in a real game…..

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by goatnole76 on Apr 12, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

On Moody & Safeties

I think that Moody & Parks are the starters at safety (though Demps is competing). I heard that our safeties are the biggest (by combined weight) in the ACC—Moody = 226; Parks = 212. Is this true?

Opponents: start to panic... now!

by TLHWG on Apr 13, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jimbo

I like how Jimbo was calling most of the sacks. It they got a breath on CP7 he was barking at the refs.

Bring Back PT Willis -------> A True Nole!!!

by Marmaduke1 on Apr 12, 2010 4:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I was looking to see how well Demps and Rhodes moved with the weight they put on.

I also wanted to see Tavares Pressley show the burst that everybody had been talking about. I came away very impressed with all 3 of them in the respective aspects that I was looking for. The cut Pressley made on that long run caught me off guard (and the defense as well from the looks of it). I wish he could have gotten a couple more carries. It looks like he’s 100% back from the ACL injury. I’m looking forward to watching Demps in the secondary. I bet he’s been dying to get out there and make an impact after watching Greg Reid shine last year. Rhodes will be a beast. A couple people on here have been raving about him, and T-Buck also gave him high praise after the season, so I was really looking forward to seeing him play. I was impressed. He moves much better than I anticipated.

by 504Nole on Apr 12, 2010 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Totally agreed about Floyd and Deckerhoff

Much like the Bowden situation, Deckerhoff has a lot of supporters but it’s time to bring some change to the broadcast booth.

by 38Noles on Apr 12, 2010 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I say it's time for new blood across the board.

Enough of the old buddies hanging out. We got a new FB coach, new announcer at Doak, and a new pres. Now it’s time for a new baseball coach, new AD, and new voice of the seminoles.

by PadraicTheSeminole on Apr 12, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woah woah woah...

Hasty…

"Bring back Fred Rouse--a true Nole"

by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 14, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice Job

But I would add that the corners were not physical at all. In fact, I saw many a whiffed tackle in the run game that really looked intentional. If you are going to play cover three, you better be willing to make some tackles on the perimeter. Obviously, they also lacked physicallity in the passing game. This is my new biggest concern.

by Ponder This on Apr 12, 2010 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

Other than Reid, the corners looked average—Jenije’s 2 (the only 2 of the game) PIs made him look below average.

Opponents: start to panic... now!

by TLHWG on Apr 13, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Frank

I was trying to keep track of the spring game by reading live posts at Tallahassee.com.

Believe it or not some guest was posting stuff like they are running Bobby’s reverse!

Bobby will always be the coach at FSU!!!!!!!

Bobby forever!!!!!!!!

I was countering with comments like no Jimbo Fisher is the coach now not Bobby

No Bobby did not invent the reverse it has been around a long time.

Thanks for stopping in Ann, say hello to the grand kids.

Bring back Peter Tom Willis
Ann say hello to the grand kids

by DocHoliday2 on Apr 13, 2010 1:36 AM EDT reply actions  

I know I'm way late.......

but this was another great write up Bud.

Can’t wait for us to practice with a full roster. I think some of our newcomers will have something to say about the final depth chart.

BTW…. when will we get another WORT?

by Noletorious on Apr 13, 2010 5:41 AM EDT reply actions  

I like the sound of things so far.

If our offense can perform at the same level as it did last year, with an above average defense we will be a pretty good team. There is no reason that we shouldn’t expect to at least be in the ACC title game.

by fsunole23 on Apr 15, 2010 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

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