Florida State Fans Embracing Jimbo Fisher
The final whistle had blown. Florida State's players had carried Bobby Bowden off the field after the comeback in the Gator Bowl. And after what had been a cold and rainy morning, the sun was out. Tomahawk Chopping, FSU fans didn't want to leave the stadium as they cheered their coach one last time. It didn't matter that the 'Noles had played bad football for almost an entire decade, or that Florida had drubbed the 'Noles six straight times. Florida State fans just wanted to enjoy their moment.
But that moment wouldn't last forever. Florida State had its new coach, Jimbo Fisher. And many 'Nole fans didn't know what to think. Sure, Fisher had a national championship ring with LSU in 2003. Yes, he had somehow turned JaMarcus Russel into the number one overall draft choice. And after inheriting an offensive wasteland from Jeff Bowden in 2007, Fisher had turned the 'Noles offense into one of the best in the nation. Great quarterback coach. Very good offensive coordinator. Those qualities were not in dispute.
But when it came to running a program, many Florida State fans took a wait and see approach. Fans wondered how much control over the program Fisher had as head coach in waiting. "What will be different?," was the popular refrain. As it turns out, Fisher didn't have much control over anything but his offense. His efforts to bring Florida State into the 21st century were often dismissed as unnecessary or taken as an affront by those who wielded more power than Jimbo. Most fans didn't realize that despite being the Head-Coach-In-Waiting, Fisher was 4th in command on the coaching staff behind two long-time defensive assistants, and Bowden.
Just three months later, however, those casual fans realize just how little influence Fisher had over the program. They have to ask themselves why the changes Fisher and his staff are currently implementing weren't made before. From coaches working 90-hour weeks, to changing the times of the off-season conditioning program so that players wouldn't be tired in class, to almost tripling the available support staff to players, to evaluating potential recruits earlier and earlier, the list goes on an on. Every fan can see it. The differences are noticeable and real. Florida State had more than 51,000 fans at its Garnet & Gold Spring Game last weekend, more than doubling last year's turnout. I caught up with Sean Farrell, a Florida State alumnus of the 2006 to get his thoughts on Jimbo Fisher.
"Florida State is now relevant again without even having played a single game," Farrell said. "Fisher took over the most underachieving offense in the country and thanks to him, Florida State now has one of the best and most diverse offenses in the country. That he achieved those results under the umbrella of a dysfunctional leadership structure and with players that had not been properly developed under the previous offensive staff gives me hope that he and the staff he hired can help turn around the other side of the ball is well," Farrell said.
But the changes aren't only taking place on the field and around the football facility. The year's crop of recruits were born in 1993. They never saw Charlie Ward play a down for Florida State. They were only 5 or 6 years old when Chris Weinke bombed Mike Vick and Virginia Tech in the '99 Sugar Bowl. Their memories of Florida State are largely of a program getting trounced by Miami in the early part of the decade and by Florida in the latter. Coach Fisher has had to sell his own vision of Florida State to these kids. The Florida State of old can serve as an example of what the program is capable of at its peak, and Fisher has done an excellent job getting recruits to buy in. But as Fisher recently said on TV, he respects the past, but must do things his own way. One aspect of the change that can't be oversold is Fisher's masterful handling of the media during an obviously awkward situation. Fisher refused to discuss Bowden's situation with the media, though the way he was handcuffed had to have been frustrating. By repeating his admiration for coach Bowden, Fisher helped to win over the older crowd of Florida State fans and assured that they didn't look upon him as the man who drove Bowden out. Because of his media savvy, older 'Nole fans can view him solely as the coach brought in to help Florida State play to its potential as a program.
"As a 'Nole, all I wanted was a coach who had the ability and the drive to get Florida State back to where it should be," Farrell said. Judging by the response of the fans and the media, it seems FSU is on the right track. And with that perception comes renewed support. "Seeing the recruiting job Fisher and his staff did in the few short weeks following Coach Bowden's retirement [a top 6 recruiting class after the 'Noles were not in the top 40 before Bowden retired] inspired me and many of my fellow young alumni to become boosters. Many of the people I graduated with had not been motivated to give back to the program because we experienced our Florida State football during the 'lost decade' and weren't willing to support a program that wasn't willing to put forth a championship-caliber effort," said Farrell.
The changes Fisher has already made are certainly rubbing off on 'Nole fans. "Coach Fisher has brought the energy and the passion back to Florida State," Farrell said. There seems to be something new in Tallahassee: confidence. Farrell explained, "As fans, we're not sitting around waiting to see what will next go wrong with a dysfunctional, leaderless program. Instead, we're anxiously waiting to see what other new changes Fisher will bring. And with that renewed energy, many younger 'Noles who never saw good football during their time in Tallahassee have come rushing back to the program because they realize Florida State is again committed to winning and is is coached with the requisite ability and drive to put the fear back into the spear."
With a schedule that is sure to again be among the nation's most difficult, the season will have its own set of challenges for Fisher and the 'Noles. But as of now, FSU fans seem to be overwhelmingly appreciative of Jimbo Fisher and their confidence in him is growing by the day.
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Very Good Article!
I think you did a fantastic job of summing up how the majority of the Seminole Nation feels. Kudos, my friend!
by Nole_Novelist on Apr 15, 2010 8:40 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Excellent article
Of your more recent work, I think the only one that might be better is “Inexcusable”
EJ's response to his own role in 2010 Offense: "You still haven't seen what all (Ponder) can do."
Great Article!!
Insightful and very well written. Sad to see our program dropped to the depths that is did. I’m please to see the work of our new coach and staff and excited about what the future holds. Go Noles!!
Headline
Bud, the headline should read “Florida State fans embrace competence”
how about "Florida State fans embrace TED"?
Maybe we should just call him TED Fisher… or Jimbo T. Fisher…
Bring back Peter Tom Willis— a true Nole!
by PeachTreeNole on Apr 15, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I first misread it as
Florida State fans “embarrassing” Jimbo FIsher
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by tdchrisdavis on Apr 15, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Great article
So many of the old crowd are incensed about how Bowden was forced out, but at the end of the day, it was of his making (failing to make personnel changes, failing to realize he was past his prime, and failing to muzzle “Bitter”). Kudos to Jimbo for handling a difficult situation with poise and class, and kudos to the coaching staff for calling things as they are. Thankfully, the Seminole Nation won’t have to listen to an “aw shucks, we just need one more playmaker” excuse for getting our a$$ handed to us by a mediocre opponent any longer. Go Noles! and Go Jimbo!
Hello, I'm Weasie
For quite a few years now, I have found myself drinking heavily anytime I see Louisville playing football on tv…especially if it’s raining. Things just haven’t been the same for me. I’ve been missing something.
I’d like to tell you, I support any measures that allow me to go back to making fun of Wake Forest’s football program and people I know who went there.
I support excellence. I support Jimbo Fisher.
LOL
It’s true that we haven’t been able to make fun of WF for a while now. Not to take anything away from them (they’ve done well for themselves lately), but that’s kind of sad.
I'm one of those they describe in the article..
I’m an alum – and one that has not had a burning desire to go see this team in the past few years. I live in the midwest, and as much as I love FSU and Tallahassee, I just couldn’t stomach travelling down just to see us go toe-to-toe with teams in the ACC we used to trounce. This is FSU for gods sake!
That said, I’m flying to TLH the Clemson game, down to the Miami game , and am 50/50 on the OU game this year. I have the fever again. I can’t put it out. I’m donating for the first time since 2005. I believe in this program. I haven’t been able to objectively say that in a long time.
Go Noles.
Well said!
I am a student at FSU but am older than most students…..I actually know how good we were in the 80’s and watched Charlie and Chris in the ‘90s. Sad to say but during the “lost decade” there were a couple years that I didn’t even watch my beloved ‘Noles as it was a waste of time and when I did, I got so upset and could pretty much call the next play to my wife before we were “3 and out”. I respect and admire what BB did for FSU and that will not be forgotten however, I have some friends and family that are hung up on BB and are mad at the situation. I just became a booster and will continue to be as Jimbo and the staff have engergized the Seminole Nation and the “Fear in the Spear” is coming back. Fans are either “ALL IN fans” or they just support the team when we win….I/we have been through the thick and thin and it’s time to support this team and staff as things are now headed in the right direction again. *****Like “DOAK”, I may be going to an away game or 2 this year.
GREAT ARTICLE! GO NOLES!!!
I was there
For all the good times in the late 80’s. Watched all the good times in the 90’s. I have always looked at football season through garnet colored glasses. To be honest, I was mad at THE WAY Bobby was kicked out. I thought it was time for him to go, but I wished it would have been a little more private. My mind changed however when Ann started spouting off her pie hole. That was the only time I was truly embarrassed to be a Seminole. Now after reading this site many times a day (TN is slowly closing the gap to internet porn as my favorite site) I realize I should have been embarrassed a whole lot more. I have been truly shocked at how far behind the rest of the elite college football teams we were. I hope and think we are on the right track and Jimbo had and will have my support. He had me at hello!
I don’t even think TN is my favorite internet destination v. porn.
by Bud Elliott on Apr 15, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Bud, I think there may be a good slogan opportunity here...
“TN the next best thing to porn.”
by mountain renegade on Apr 15, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Reminds me of the best WR advice I've ever heard:
“A football is like a breast – once you get your hands on it, never let it go!”
TOMAHAWK NATION
…..All the excitement of porn, with none of the fear of discovery/self-loathing/religious or parental judgment/dirty tissues!!
Oderint Dum Metuant
there's the line!
let’s step back one comment
by DownByTheRiverWalkinOnWater on Apr 15, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
No
They are doing expansion stuff first, I am told.
by Bud Elliott on Apr 15, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
It is over that is what counts
It is a credit to Fisher he could keep his mouth shut while surrounded by incompetents. He must be unflappable and have ice water in his veins. He asked his players to show toughness and he was if nobody noticed displaying this same toughness in the public relations arena. The boy doesn’t give up.
He was able to exert some influence on recruiting especially on the offensive side of the ball. If not FSU would be in much worse shape today than it is.
Bring back Peter Tom Willis
Ann say hello to the grand kids
Very underrated ability.
The most impressive thing about the transition is that Jimbo managed to do it without throwing anyone under the bus. He is not worried about the last three years—only with what is going to happen going forward.
True
I think Fisher has handled himself remarkably well throughout this process. He kept his mouth shut in public during the last three years. He has taken control without offending the old regime (only a few comments that indicate the need to change the culture, etc.). I’m impressed by his behavior – let alone his “game plan” for the program.
In contrast to Bowden, Fisher has already shown himself to be
a man of extraordinary ability coupled with humility.
How we can we not admire that?
Bring back Peter Tom Willis— a true Nole!
by PeachTreeNole on Apr 15, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm very hopeful that Coach Fisher will get us back to where we want to be
I’m a big fan of his enthusiasm and work ethic.
That said, to say that he “somehow made JaMarcus Russell into the first player picked” is going a bit far, isn’t it?
Genetics made Russell the first player picked, near as I can tell. The combination of size, strength (arm and other wise) and speed was just too much to resist.
Million dollar arm and 2-cent head.
How did he hide the head from the scouts? My bet is coaching.
by Bud Elliott on Apr 15, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
The fact that Russell has performed so poorly in the NFL
Is a huge testament to Jimbo’s coaching. Jimbo was able to create an environment for JR to succeed in a conference that is defensively stout, historically. JR is bigger, stronger, with far more practice time, yet he’s failing.
I would be more inclined to dismiss Jimbo’s influence if Russell had performed at the expected level of ANY rookie/young player, let alone a number one pick. He hasnt, and Im sure that his NFL coaches would probably agree with me. You can’t make a ho a housewife…
"Bring back Fred Rouse--a true Nole"
by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 15, 2010 3:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You also have to remember just how horrible it is in Oakland.
I have my doubts that Payton Manning himself would look like a pro QB there…
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
by onebarrelrum on Apr 15, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Oakland IS terrible,
but nobody will argue that JR hasn’t performed.
"Bring back Fred Rouse--a true Nole"
by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 15, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
This was a good article. I propose a minor edit.
I arrived at FSU in the fall of 1971. (Yes. This is a quick, “I walked uphill to school in the snow” story). That was Bill Peterson’s (sp?) last season. QB Gary Huff was drafted an and Barry Smith was a pretty good WR. We went to Gainesville 4-0 and they were 0-4. We lost.
That was the end of competence for the rest of my time at FSU. However, I went to every game at Doak, which held +- 48,000 at the time. During my sophmore and Junior years, I sat in that stadium for every game over two entire seasons during which we failed to win a single game at Doak. But FSU was my college. I loved, and do to this day love, college football. Even more, I love FSU football.
Two years after I left, Bobby Bowden came along and changed my life. I mean that literaly. Because of him, I have enjoyed over thirty years of events that I have shared with my FSU buddies that I would not have shared. I have forged lifetime friendships that were kindled because Bobby brought us together to watch games that would not have otherwise been on TV. It is important that my new friends at TN understand the powerful regard that those of us who were born before the Dodgers left Brooklyn, have for Bobby Bowden.
I understand your impatience with Bobby’s final years. You have well documented his failings. I have, over time and quite reluctantly, accepted your well reasoned arguments. This was a good article. There is a fine line between noting what was not being done what now is being done, and simply bashing the previous administration, as did the remaining pig to the “Trotsky” pig, in “Animal Farm”. You have walked that line well.
Now to my editorial suggestion. I suggest that it cannot be “oversold”, not “undersold”. You cannot “oversell” what Jimbo has done with the media, because it was done so well. I see this mistake constantly in journalism in the missuse of “overestimate” where it should be “underestimate” and vice versa. I recognize that the TN can ban me for being pedantic, however, I now formally lodge a petition for an exemption on this matter.
by Nole75 on Apr 15, 2010 12:24 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I'll take that suggestion. Had not thought about that.
To be honest, I didn’t want to write the story. I only put it together because CBS asked for it. I don’t want to talk about the past any more because it divides a lot of our readers. The plan is to do so only when making comparisons and judging progress.
People won’t believe this, but I do enjoy reading stories of how people became FSU fans and their love for Bobby.
by Bud Elliott on Apr 15, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
1996 Grad Here
I am from Cincinnati, Ohio. I went to FSU from 1992-1996 because of … football. My brother living in Orlando at the time suggested I come check out FSU (he specifically didn’t suggest UF because they are so obnoxious). I flew into Tallahassee for the Syracuse game in 1991. We were #1 and they were #9 with Missile Ismail. It rained like crazy, but it was amazing. The warchant was the coolest thing ever. I applied early admission and decided to go 800 miles away for school. I couldn’t have picked a better time to go to FSU. We literally didn’t lose at Doak during my time there (and only one tie!). I got to see Wide Right II … and feared for my life. It was amazing.
After college, I moved back to Cincinnati and got married. My dad and I have been season ticket holders ever since. I make it to two or three games a year, which is not easy or cheap from where I live. But, I love the Noles! Sadly, my dad passed away four years ago and I had to decide if I would keep the tickets. I did and continued to support the program in every way possible. I love and respect Bobby, but can’t wait for the new era. It feels like my commitment is about to be repaid. I truly view Doak Campbell Stadium as heaven on earth and, once again, I think it will be based on merit. Go ’Noles!
Great story, I on the other hand graduated in 2009. Although, I grew up watching the Noles.
"FEAR is just the Opening ACT!!!" Coach Coley
Someone posting for an earlier Article said we need a "baseline"
in order to compare where we were to where we are. Estimating progress by way of employing a logical or even empirical foundation, which is one of the things I enjoy about this site, (whatever it is called), is not Bobby bashing. However, as I said before, it is a fine line to walk. I thank you and everybody that contributes here, for many hours of obsessive/compulsive mindless entertainment. I have known the depth chart at least two deep for over twenty years. I have a summa cume laude degree in diletante football studies from Florida State University. Here, I am home.
Your logic, well-founded, is astrophysics to some
It might be one of those “too close to home” type things where emotions conflate with logic.
1979 Grad here
I started at FSU when Bobby did, in fall 1976. It was a very exciting time to be a Nole, mainly beause the whole winning regualrly thing was so new to us. I was there when we stuffed the unholy reptiles in Hogtown in 1977 for the first time in quite a while.
It has made me sad that my son, now finishing his second year at FSU, has not been able to experience that kind of joy. I hope this is the beginning of a winning tradition, if not a dynasty, for his generation.
Two legs good, Four legs better
As a ‘95 grad, I experienced the pinnacle of FSU football—indeed, maybe of college football—every year of my college experience. I was spoiled. I took it for granted. But I too took a long time to come around. I have, but the Lost Decade does not dull the gleam of the prior two. I prefer to compartmentalize it and pack it away in the back of the closet where it belongs. But I lament the fact that it is the only FSU football my 12 year old has ever known. For him, for myself, and for all FSU fans, the 2010’s are going to be special, and I rejoice for a new coach that, if he proves himself worthy, will have the honor of coaching and advancing a school that has a rare level of loyalty to its leaders, an admirable thing nowadays.
On the edit subject, cheers to the attention to good writing. This site certainly takes a deliberate approach to upgrading journalism, and it should do so as to internet grammar as well, which has fallen into a normalcy of embarrassing ignorance. In addition, I’d ask everyone to respect the following points, relevant to grammatical sins frequently repeated here and elsewhere:
A. There is no such thing as a “receiving core,” unless you are talking about their intestines.
2. There is no such thing as “could of,” as in, “I could of graduated elementary school, but grammar made my thinker hurt.”
D. “I could care less” means that you actually DO care about what you are referring to. If you “could care less about what Urban Meyer says to a reporter,” it means you actually do care what Der Fuhrer utters to expendable media-types. If you do not care, you need to say “I couldn’t care less,” or preferably something more colorful.
Thank you. Go ’Noles.
by BigSpear on Apr 15, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd because of that A, 2, D.
Team Garnet!
by Jamil Dawson on Apr 15, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes! BigSpear is officially on the TN Grammar Police!
I’m very happy that this site has a high standard for grammar. And even though our beloved Coach Bowden often sounded like ‘Mater", we should work to keep a higher standard. Now BigSpear, if you can stop people from mispronouncing Nuclear (it’s New-Clee-Ar not Nu-Kee-Lar dammit!), you’ll be my hero.

Sheriff Branford: The fact that you are a sheriff is not germane to the situation.
Buford T. Justice: The god damn Germans got nothin' to do with it!
Gonzo, the worst is "New que lar". Unacceptable
"Bring back Fred Rouse--a true Nole"
by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 15, 2010 3:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Thanks "Frenchie" Spetman
Sheriff Branford: The fact that you are a sheriff is not germane to the situation.
Buford T. Justice: The god damn Germans got nothin' to do with it!
You like that, huh?
I was trying to figure out how to phonetically convey the CUE sound, and that’s what popped out.
"Bring back Fred Rouse--a true Nole"
by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 15, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Right on Big Spear!
Was your father named Shake?
Overly concerned w/ details,formalities
Ref:“I find this administrations policies on the middle east to be shallow & pedantic”
If you don’t watch Family Guy disregard, you won’t get the ref.
......and let the paramedics sort 'em out!
My bad.
[I’m a] Family Guy viewer. Mysteries solved:
1. I now know what pedantic meant in Nole75’s comment.
2. I never knew what Peter meant either. (Will accept my lashes for not conjuring the FG quote immediately.) Kinda like “capricious and arbitrary” from when Kramer’s fly was open – still no clue. Now someone alert the K-Man: TN has another Seinfeld reference.
DK, i'm starting to think we're the exception, not the rule.
I thought everyone watched that show!
......and let the paramedics sort 'em out!
This is one of my favorite scenes ever
http://www.hulu.com/watch/111154/family-guy-quagmire-goes-off
Bring back Peter Tom Willis— a true Nole! -FiestaNole
He's still pissed about not bangin the chick w/ the trainwreck for a leg;)
......and let the paramedics sort 'em out!
Admittedly, i googled it the first time i saw the episode in question.
It’s not generally a word used in everyday conv.
......and let the paramedics sort 'em out!
At first, I though it had something to do with why all the Catholic priests keep getting in trouble...
Sheriff Branford: The fact that you are a sheriff is not germane to the situation.
Buford T. Justice: The god damn Germans got nothin' to do with it!
Mine makes pretty good meatloaf, but her attitude sucks;)
......and let the paramedics sort 'em out!
Article helps us establish our expectations
Over the past several months, we have slowly begun to see the numerous problems facing FSU and to understanding the disaster Bowden left for Fisher. This article provides a good overview and helps us begin to establish some expectations for the fall. Well done.
Friend Sent Me the Link
I have been following the Tomahawk Nation since December, when a friend sent me the link. Since I have been out of the country most of the past two years, it has kept me better informed than I have ever been in the past. Great stuff.
"FSU all the dammmmmmn time!"
Great article.
Jimbo did an unbelievable job weathering the storm that was the end of the Bowden era. That spoke volumes to me. I think the key word throughout the article is “effort.” You usually get rewarded for effort in some form or fashion. The Seminole nation was starving for revival signs. People were looking for a reason, any reason, to support the program, but were unwilling to support a poor product. Not only a poor product, but a poor product built off laziness and borderline arrogance. Fans see the energy being put in to turn the program around, so now that same amount of energy should be put into supporting the program.
I was a fan of Jimbo’s before he came to FSU, and my level of respect for him has done nothing but grow since. Their aren’t too many other coaches that I would rather have than Jimbo to right the ship post-Bowden. The Jimbo Fisher era is off to a great start…without even playing a game.
And yet Charlie Strong gets most the love
I find it odd that the people who question Jimbo (as a first-year HC, with no proven results yet) are often the same ones praising Strong and saying how great he will be.
because hes coming from UF
hes bound to get more pub from a team like that than jimbo taking over a decidedly average FSU team
LOL
Maybe you’re right, maybe he hid Russell’s head with his coaching.
Still, I can’t help but believe that the Raiders had access to the film of the 2006 LSU vs. uf game. It’s all I would have needed.
I think that more realistically, only Al Davis was stupid enough to pick a QB with a 2 cent head. But maybe not, hell, Ryan Leaf went number 2 about 15 years ago.
He was a concensus #1 type pick that year if I recall
Was the 06 game the one when he fumbled like 3 times?
Yeah, he was horrible down there
When the going got tough, he took a powder. From my perspective, dropping a snap is having a two cent head.
I think that most folks agreed that physically, Russell was a number one pick. But there were Leaf comparisons done, as well.
I think that if Russell were “consensus” number one, again, that’s an indication of physical ability, not anything that a coach really did for him.
It’s an interesting time to watch the Noles and see where things go. I’m tempering my expectations, or trying to but realisitcally with the schedule that FSU has this fall, I have to think the Noles are the favorite to win the division.
Ryan Leaf was arrested by Customs when coming back from Vancouver
into Seattle a couple of a months ago on a burglary warrant from Texas, (no joke here). The headline writer for the Ft. Lauderdale Sun Sentinel wrote over the story in the sports section, “Leaf Intercepted Again”.
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