NFL Draft 1st Round Open Thread For FSU Fans
by Bud Elliott on Apr 22, 2010 5:45 PM EDT
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Where will Patrick Robinson, Dekoda Watson, and Myron Rolle go? Let's have your predictions! 7:30 Eastern
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2nd for PRob.
Rolle goes in the 4th. Dekoda…dunno, 3rd or 4th?
Hearing the Vikes may draft St Timmy, allowing me to consolidate the objects of my NFL hateerade in Minnesota.
I think Spencer Hall said it best:
He could, in theory, fall to the Vikings. If this scenario actually happens, the combination of Favre and Tebow in the same place will create a media singularity so dense it will suck in half of downtown Minneapolis. Brett Favre will attempt to throw a ball into it to test its depth, and will instead hit a DB in stride for a game-breaking INT TD return.
by evenflow58 on Apr 22, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
$10 says Watson is a Jaguar in round 4
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by Jonathan Loesche on Apr 22, 2010 6:08 PM EDT reply actions
Robinson- early-mid 2nd
Watson- 4th
Rolle- 4th
by SeminoleSkins87 on Apr 22, 2010 6:13 PM EDT reply actions
I concur.
What would it be called?
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 6:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Kiper
Never liked Kiper, but especially after he puss’d out when Tebow confronted him about not being cut out for playing QB in the NFL.
by Drew J Jones on Apr 22, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
What about "Two Clowns (pissing into the wind)"
So glad that I dont have to see them anymore.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont know...
I kind of like seeing McShay and his dismissive wanks to Kiper. Kiper is a blowhard because he (to his credit) had a dream to do workups on kids coming out of college. The thing is, he has no idea what he is talking about. Watching them argue is actually entertaining because I feel they actually disike each other, it isnt some contrived mess like Skip Bayless being an idiot or any combination of people on around the horn.
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Not as funny as Salisbery v. Clayton....
….Where you just KNEW Sean was wanting to reach out & slap Clayton.
(and then give him a swirlie)
Oderint Dum Metuant
Hope they're right about the Giants getting McClain
just don’t think it happens
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I wanna say that is a joke...
but it is the Raiders.
I was thinking the same thing, maybe I missed something
"FEAR is just the Opening ACT!!!" Coach Coley
That's the first time I've heard that song...
You know what?! They should play it in promos involving ANYTHING related to NY, or located in NY, or even if the word NY is mentioned. That would be such a good marketing idea.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Or just an easy target for a song designed to make money off of a mass market appeal.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Before it's too late (FSU picks)
Patrick Robinson – 2nd Rd
Dekoda Watson – 3rd Rd
Myron Rolle – 6th Rd
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
Man, I thought Tebow was going first overall, at least thats what Urban told me yesterday.
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I'm anxious to see if the Packers trade up
I doubt it, but apparently Jacksonville was looking to trade down…
I’d like to see them take Prob in the second round.
Yeah I can't wait
for Suh to “help that great organation” in Detroit
I know you can fight. But it's our wits that make us men.
Are you a Titan's fan?
Or a fan of greek mythology?
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too buddy...(and a Saints fan)
I want an OT or DL (preferably DT)…
we also need to address a WR problem.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Does OU not have a good strength and conditioning program?
DT and OT both only doing 23 reps? Both top 4 picks?
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My really good friend is a former OU trainer
Said they have the worst S&C coach and yes he worked under the 2 previous FSU guys
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by RaysnNoles on Apr 22, 2010 8:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hmm, thanks.
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3 picks in the top 4 pretty impressive for OU
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Still have Gresham going 1st round most likely, too.
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Most impressive top 4 picks by one school ever?
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Give it 3 years
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by RaysnNoles on Apr 22, 2010 8:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Just no way you can project that.
I assume you’re talking the gators. But Williams and Bradford were 3 stars.
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And (don't know why I didn't see it earlier)
Top 4 picks all Big 12, and 5 of the top 6 (incl. Okung).
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
Warchant going on at the draft...
even if it’s for…Kansas City…lol
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So annoying.
I’m going to a Braves series in Mid may. I’m bringing an old school, homeade FSU tomahawk from when I was a kid. Gonna use it when those idiots start chopping.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing I hate is how
people think FSU stole it from the Braves.
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This guy.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I already said that.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Top 10
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by Jamil Dawson on Apr 22, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
He said it in all caps.
Technically, he said it differently, and betters.
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Depends on the year he has next year
I think right know he is probably a 2-3 round prospect, but if he has the year we all expect him to have he could easily jump into the third round. Right know there are some serious durability concerns with cp,
I think right now he's 1st round
He can play himself backwards into the 2nd or 3rd round, not the other way around.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely
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by Jamil Dawson on Apr 22, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
What other qb's are in next year's class?
Where would Ponder have gone in this year’s class?
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Jake Locker (Washington) is expected to be the 1st picked
well was #1 in a mock I saw.
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"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
Riiiight.
Forgot about him. Is his arm just incredible? His numbers aren’t much different. He has more rushing yards but that’s a byproduct of his offense and conference. He’s similarly athletic as Ponder. I didn’t understand the hype on him a few months back before he announced he was staying either.
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I see him as similar to jevan snead
getting overhyped before the season and sucking
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Jake is 6-3 225 and fast. Better athlete than Ponder
Just needs to get used running a pro style system. Great athlete, the Angels drafted him and paid 300K just to go a spring training camp basically
by westcoastnolefan on Apr 22, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
But a better athlete than Ponder?
Ponder’s also 6’2" 225. Good runner. Good agility. Good accuracy. Smart.cJust how strong his arm is is my only question mark.
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I've watched alot of Locker, and I think he's a better athlete
It pains me to say, but Locker has potential out the ass. Plus, he can play baseball
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 23, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Do we know Ponder couldn't?
Definitely think Locker is a good athlete. I watched him his freshman year a few times and thought he looked really good back then. I just thought Ponder was a pretty good athlete too.
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It's close, but I think we'd have heard if Ponder had an opportunity to sign a MiLB deal.
However, CP7 is superman, and I have 100% confidence that he could hit 100mph fastball from Tim Lincecum. Easy.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 23, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I assume Ponder didn't play much baseball in high school, if any.
Could be wrong. And I know some guys don’t play high school ball and still get drafted (supposedly Vick). But if he didn’t play in high school that would/could explain not being drafted.
Maybe he sucked at tee ball and quit at age 6. Or maybe he just decided early on to do football exclusively.
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also playing baseball has no correllation to being a good qb
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Yes, but it makes the masses perceive you to be a better "athlete"
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 23, 2010 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions
It's funny because
baseball requires the least amount of natural athleticism of major sports. Regardless, I understand the point.
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that depends
on your definition of natural athleticism, hand eye coordination has to be top of the line, and if you want to play in the outfield you have to either have some ridiculous power and quick hands, or be a top of the line athlete that has great depth perception…. but yes you can get away with being less of an athlete in baseball than you can any other sport
Yeah thats what I was referring to,
hand-eye coordination to me is an incredible talent, but not necessarily athleticism. But I agree with your statement.
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Locker is a better athlete than damn any college QB. NFL scouts have know that for years
4.4 speed and an absolute cannon. He just needs to harness his talent within a pro style offense. CP7 is light years ahead in terms of accuracy, pocket awareness, and the abilty to run a sophisticated scheme
by westcoastnolefan on Apr 23, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Right.
There’s no question about who has more upside. However, Ponder’s football IQ is off the charts compared to Locker. It doesn’t hurt that dude has all day to throw on most occasion, as our OL is the baddest ass OL in the damn biz
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 23, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I would be surprised if he runs a sub 4.55 at the combine.
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Doesn't really matter
Dude pulls away in the open field plenty
by westcoastnolefan on Apr 23, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
he's a QB not a RB
Tom Brady and Peyton Manning can’t run at all. Drew Brees is short and has average arm strength, but he and Brady and Manning are accurate and can run an offense. I think Jamarcus Russell proved that measureables do not equal good QB.
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Read the above posts
His speed is far from the only reason why NFL scouts love the guy.
by westcoastnolefan on Apr 23, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep. And we're not saying we think Locker is a better choice for QB
We’re just saying that he IS faster than CP7, and is percieved to have a tremendous upside, which is what is going to help in get drafted.
If it were MY money, CP7 gets picked all day, but that’s just me. I just can’t see Locker having the work ethic and football IQ that Ponder does, but if he runs into a coach that can completely maximize his abilities, look out.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 23, 2010 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Unrealized potential is great,
and it will get a GM fired. I get why scouts are drooling over him, but unless he puts it together on the field I don’t think he warrants a first pick. I also completely agree with your post Randall.
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so speed, cannon arm, and playing baseball are his measurables?
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ponder will be a better qb, but
locker has much more physical potential… he has a stronger arm, faster legs and generally just a better athletic physique… however, ponder has the better football iq, accuracy and from what i can tell just a better will to play football and more of the “it” factor, so I can’t blame scouts on picking locker, even though they will be dead wrong
Here he is in action
He’s a load and he’s got great speed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMfiq9CXss8
Sheriff Branford: The fact that you are a sheriff is not germane to the situation.
Buford T. Justice: The god damn Germans got nothin' to do with it!
I agree he likely be the number one pick,
but I don’t see him as a sure thing, and if you are picking a QB at #1 overall, you’d like him to not need much development, since he is probably going to a crap team.
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I'm headed to Seattle this summer
cant wait to get to go watch him. Hopefully they can get string together a pretty good season.
He is an OUTSTANDING athlete...Damn good baseball player.
Kid made a bad choice…Washington + Football = FAIL
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 23, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
He lucked out with Sarkisian
I think they will pull off a Duke ala Spurrier. But he probably wont stay long.
Couldn't U Dub afford to pay their coaches?
It’s a very good academic, wealthy, public university.
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Same with Duke
I guess it comes down to their dedication to football and wether or not Sarkisian thinks he can win there.
But they've got a ton of history including 3 national titles in the last 25ish years.
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washington will keep sarkisian if they want to,
they are not some run of the mill football school, they can compete for the pac-10 every year with they right coaching and infrastructure
Some of the other 2011 QB's (other than CP7 and Locker) are
Ryan Mallett – Arkansas
Jerrod Johnson – Texas A&M
Andy Dalton – TCU
Case Keenum – Houston
Kevin Riley – Cal
Ricky Stanzi – Iowa
Greg McElroy – Alabama
CP may have been a 3rd rounder this year because of the injury concerns and the hype surrounding the big 4 (Bradford, Tebow, Clausen, and McCoy). If he has the type of season we think he will then he can be a top 10 pick.
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by Jamil Dawson on Apr 23, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
bottom line
is that he needs to stay healthy. For the last two seasons he’s been beaten up by the end. Hopefully the extra weight he put on will help out.
Right on!
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by Jamil Dawson on Apr 23, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't forget Pat Delwin of Delaware
Johnson, Riley, Stanzi, McElroy, and Dalton can;t be considered 1st round types
I didn't say they were.
I was just naming a few of the others that will be draft eligble in 2011.
You’re right on about Delwin. I keep a database of about 400 potential draftees each season (NFL front office is my career goal) and scout them all with the tools I have available. I have Locker as the #1 QB with CP #2 and Mallett #3. I have a total of about 17 QBs total at this point.
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by Jamil Dawson on Apr 23, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I just want to see more of Luck.
I do think he’s special though and he has a pair of really good receivers out.
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by Jamil Dawson on Apr 23, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
out there
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by Jamil Dawson on Apr 23, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Depends.
If he stays healthy and performs as good or better as 2009, then without a doubt.
by Drew J Jones on Apr 22, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Rather, "as well or better...."
I kuh tok reel good.
by Drew J Jones on Apr 22, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Could be Jacksonville, could be the Giants
they are the 2 teams I’ve seen with him the most in the top 1/2 of the draft.
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"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
I dunno about Jax, because I've heard the same thing
I think they have more pressing needs than a MJD backup. However, I like the “take the best player” motif.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
...So they take the 5th or 6th-best DT #10 overall??
It’s pretty hard to make Al Davis look smart by comparison, but dammit……………….Jax did it.
Oderint Dum Metuant
No idea, but I sincerely hope he doesn't end up like Darren McFadden.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
He will be the 2nd best all around back in the League in 2 years.
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Wow
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:23 PM EDT reply actions
Haden just went to Cleveland, 1st of 2 or 3 Gators in the 1st Rd
3 if Tebow gets selected.
I have Pouncey as in the 1st rd, but Dunlop in the 2nd (Spikes looks like a 3rd day pick right now).
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Should be either Bulaga (OT) or Clausen
anyone else would be odd – even for the Raiders.
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$10 on Riley Skinner
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
wow, McClain
pissed now (as a Giants fan)
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Meh...That's a decent pick.
He’ll play almost immediately. Kid is a monster.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh Shit
SPILLER!!! Atta boy!
Rooting hard for this kid.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:31 PM EDT reply actions
To BUFFALO?!?!
Doesn’t Buffalo desperately need a QB?
by Drew J Jones on Apr 22, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell no. They've got the incomparable Trent Edwards
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Buffalo didn't like Clausen
don’t know why
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Plus they've been actively shopping Lynch
for a while now
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Wow, maybe I'll check out the Bills/Bears game next year
it’s in Toronto
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Rishi, are you in canada?
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
in Toronto
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Dude...that's hardcore.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Odds the Bills move to Toronto?
Maybe as great as the odds the Expos were going to move to San Juan?
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Yeah, just a tad.
Would’ve been better off getting Tebow and selling the extra tickets.
by Drew J Jones on Apr 22, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
You know why all the QB's are getting passed over, right?
Because these teams want to be in the Ponder sweepstakes in 2011
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:37 PM EDT reply actions
Saw some mocks in the last week or so that had Clausen falling ala Aaron Rogers
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Not happening.
I think Freeman has a TON of upside…give the kid some time, and I think he’ll turn out to be OK. He needs help around him, though. You can ask him to do it by himself.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Besides, you don't dump your 1st round pick qb after 2 years.
Talk about an absolute waste.
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Finally, we agree on something.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
But I wasn't happy with the pick.
After it’s made though you have to let it play out.
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I think we've agreed on a lot.
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Wow...if that's not a sign that the Jags are moving to LA, I don't know what is.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:38 PM EDT reply actions
2nd Rd pick taken in the top 10 WOW!!!
and ahead of Dan Williams (Tenn) and Brian Price (UCLA)
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So many good picks.
It must really suck to be a Jags fan.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
OHH IT DOES!!!!
READY TO GO HUGO STIGLITZ ON A GATOR AT A MOMENTS NOTICE!
FEAR MY SPEAR!
by disturbednole on Apr 22, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Kindof funny to me is that Alualu was my 2nd Rd pick
in a 4 Rd mock for the Giants – and he was something like the 6th or 7th DT picked (although I’ve some say he’s a DE → not just 3-4 DE)
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Just goes to show you how pointless it is to try to predict this stuff.
Rishi you aren’t “Mock Draft Guy” at your office, are you?
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
No, that was at Warchant
not enough people follow the draft for me to be that guy :)
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Good.
Rome was going off about “Mock Draft Guy” and “Bracket Guy” today. Hilarious.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't listen to Rome for more than the 2 seconds it takes for me to flip to the station, realize he's on, and flip to a different station.
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That doesn't surprise me.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the Dan Patrick Show.
And I’ll listen to Mike and Mike over Stephen A Smith in the mornings. Colin Cowherd is kind of lined up with Rome and I’ll listen to Cowherd for a minute, see if he’s saying anything good before usually going FM exclusively.
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It took me a while to warm to Rome
but I ended up liking him because he’s not an ass. He comes off pretty well natured and smart guy. Colin I used to listen to all the time, but he is such an ass its ridiculous. He just says things to piss people off and its annoying.
Agree on Cowherd.
He admits it openly, too.
I hate Rome’s monologues. I think that’s why I can’t stand his show. Not because he’s an ass but because he seems to pause and think out his next 4 words about every 10 seconds. Or just says something he thinks is very insightful. Pauses. Continues pausing. Still pausing. And then repeats it, as if the pause wasn’t effect enough.
For me, Dan Pugh is funny, doesn’t seem to care about “style” and has several other guys in studio to lend their thoughts and get a broad range of opinions.
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ha ha! That's WHY I like Rome
He gets paid a lot of money, and does 1/3 of the word a normal show host does, it’s Brilliant!
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 23, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I can watch his tv show with much less difficulty than listen to his radio show.
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His TV show is great; can't stand the radio
Love the forum he has on the TV show, though he went to just one guest, and I don’t know why.
Problem I have with Rome
is his friggin race horse. Its almost as bad as Jeff Cameron’s golf.
Sorry if your out there Jeff. But its true.
I flipped him on during Santa Anita week.
Big mistake.
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I like Rome and Cowherd
I think I just like listening to pricks…but Mike and Mike beats them all. Dan Patrick is a CLOSE second.
Unfortunately, no M&M/DP on the panhandle.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 23, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Mike and Mike are good
because one of them likes football.
I love Partrick’s style, but can’t stand pro basketball, and thats all he talks about.
Summed it up perfectly.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
1st trade of the night
Denver moves up 2 picks for a 4th Rd pick
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Moved up to ensure getting the OT they want
not a bad move IMO, although I gotto say, I think Davis is there at 13 anyways. But as the saying goes, better safe than sorry.
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All the teams behind Jacksonville breathe a collective sigh
their picks are safe for the time being.
Anyone else think that was pointless for the 9ers to do that?
Was that pick really in jeopardy of going 2 spots earlier?
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:46 PM EDT reply actions
Unless they knew something...
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like Dan Williams is the guy they want
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I'm a little baffled.
Miami’s got their pick of Earl Thomas or Dan Williams. WTH?
by Drew J Jones on Apr 22, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Do not doubt the Parcells.
If I were a Dolphin fan, I wouldn’t worry about anything as far as player development. They’ll do what they need to.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah.
Miami traded to get a second-rounder.
by Drew J Jones on Apr 22, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Parcells is a putz.
What has he done, really? All his success came when Belichek was one of his coaches. I cant stand him.
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Ryan Matthes...SD needs a back
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think they move up that far for Matthews
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Really?
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Guess you were right
am very surprised
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I'm the AD
I have sources.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
:)
Missed the details of the trade, did you catch them?
Gotto be giving up a ton to move up 1/2 a round
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Miami got a 4 and a 2nd rounder. SD moved up and got player Tim Dobbins in addition. 99% sure that’s how it went, was just on the screen a min ago.
Just saw them
2nd (40) was the key since they gave it up in the Marshall trade.
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By the way, gentlemen, the "Uniform" topic is a real sore spot with a bunch of people.
I’ve witnessed some incredibly dumb arguments on various boards over the past 48 hours.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:47 PM EDT reply actions
I think its the older generation that is really upset about it, which I see their point.
I just graduated and most of my friends either really like it or are indifferent about the uniforms.
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I talked to a reformed Cane fan
He was livid until I told him they were just additional options and not a complete change.
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by Jamil Dawson on Apr 22, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't see their point.
It’s an experiment. A change…it’s not like this is permanent. Alot of the guys I’ve witnessed bitching are doing on a “Jimbo doesn’t have the credibility to change all this stuff” platform.
One guy went with the logic:
White Uni’s look like Alabama. Saban coaches Alabama. Jimbo is trying to turn FSU into Alabama.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand that they want to keep the tradition, but how does altering the uniform (options) change FSU?
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It doesn't. But by their reaction you'd have thought that Jimbo wanted Chief Osceola ride out
on a freaking Elephant instead of Renegade.
I dunno, the uniform change coupled with the moving the UF game comments really got some people riled up.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
You douches. LOL
You get my point.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Make the facemask garnet, and throw some gold in the spear on the white helmet.
And they’re fine. I like em both. In fact, I liked the pro-combat stuff, too. I guess I just like them all.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea, that would make the helmets look good.
They’re just bland as is. Too much white.
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yeah even making one of you changes would be good
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I understand they're just options but,
they are still terrible, I just really do not like the way they look and am not a fan of the white on white, or the black on black…. all I want is some garnet and gold and some garnet and garnet every once in a while… however, I will be okay with them if they switch to the gold helmet, the white helmet should go the way of bobby bowden and be forcibly removed
Henne is decent but I am not sure he is an elite QB
by Legal_Seminole on Apr 22, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think there's that much difference between Clausen's upside and what Henne can give
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't take Clausen.
I’m sold on Henne. Not at all sold on Clausen. Miami’s got plenty of QB talent.
by Drew J Jones on Apr 22, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
I think Henne is going to be very good.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
even if he is not elite
miami doesnt need to risk an unknown. the O is fine. gotta do something with that D
Henne's got plenty to be elite.
He was middle-of-the-pack among QBs last year in his first year, despite the Fins being slammed with injuries and having a lousy receiving corps.
by Drew J Jones on Apr 22, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Like I said I think he is decent but I am not sold on him at all.
by Legal_Seminole on Apr 22, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
You shouldn't be, yet.
However, I’m confident that you will be. He showed me a lot last year. Miami needs a game manager…don’t turn it over, manage the clock, etc. He’s fine for that purpose. Any flashes of brilliance is a bonus.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Henne
I think I’d assess Henne as having had a decent year. The Fins were on a decent roll before the offensive line went to hell with injuries and Ronnie went down.
Despite that, and despite being dealt an 0-3 start, Henne did a good job of keeping them in the hunt. I think he demonstrated an ability to keep them in the game and have a shot at winning. Can’t ask for much more, really. He could do some scary stuff if Brandon Marshall works out.
by Drew J Jones on Apr 22, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I jsut don't see why.
You can’t expect much more from a 1st year guy with a WR corps in the bottom 5 in the NFL.
I didn't see anything in him that showed me that with a more capable WR corp he would be astronomically better.
He will improve no doubt but that would be because his cast has improved. I want a QB who wills us to victory and in my opinion Henne is not that guy.
by Legal_Seminole on Apr 22, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I guess I lost that hope a long time ago
NFL gets maybe 3 of those playing at one time. Recently its been a boon between the Mannings, Brady, Brees, resurgence of Farve, and maybe one more out there.
I just don’t see drafting random QB in a first round does anything to get that.
I think it would be hard to find a guy like that...there's only 4 or 5 out there right now.
Plus, if the Dolphins are run first, run second, wildcat third type team, it’s gonna be hard to get an elite guy to sign up for that.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
The Eagles give away 2 picks? Wow.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:52 PM EDT reply actions
Our management is extremely stupid sometimes.
Seriously, we were the only ones who would touch Michael Vick. Lucky us.
2010 ~ The Year of the Spear
Is that a "Tebow Sucks" Chant?!?!?!?!
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:53 PM EDT reply actions
I knew it.
Awesome. Finally the rest of the sports world has felt what we’ve felt for the last 4 years
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Hope the 49ers can add Wyoming to their schedule
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by RaysnNoles on Apr 22, 2010 8:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Whaaat?
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Guess who all of Ryan Mathews highlights were against
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by RaysnNoles on Apr 22, 2010 9:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Err, I meant SD
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by RaysnNoles on Apr 22, 2010 9:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Gotcha...
I’m guessing that BYU has at least a play or two on that reel as well.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems like that 1st trade got the ball rolling
and there’s now been a bunch in a row.
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Hahahahahahaha!
Craziness.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 8:57 PM EDT reply actions
Another surprise pick in Graham (to me)
in going ahead of Jason Pierre-Paul and Derrick Morgan.
I think Denver got great value so far → moving from 11 to 24 for a 4th and 2 3rds
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Amassing that many picks means they're about to overhaul their roster.
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by Jamil Dawson on Apr 22, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah...if you're currently on the Denver roster, your butthole is puckered up, that's for sure.
Rishi, is Graham a DE or DT?
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Graham is a DE or a 3-4 OLB
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Ah...I thought he was a DT
maybe they like his versatility?
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Definite pass rusher
might be just a 3rd Down guy early → just speculating here.
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250lb DE?
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by RaysnNoles on Apr 22, 2010 9:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Giants might be "forced" to draft Dan Williams at 15
that would make me all kinds of happy → even if he does project to a 3-4 NT better than a 4-3 DT.
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Anyone think Clausen goes here to Seattle?
They already got a LT in Okung at 6.
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It's a good thought.
Their QB situation is in trouble, IMO.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess they could try to trade down a few picks as well
maybe as far as 19. I see a lot of teams looking at DE here, maybe someone moves up to ensure they get “their” guy.
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I guess if they like Whitehurst they go D?
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Oh man, forgot that they brought him in.
All I remember is that they traded Wallace.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup. Mr. Muschamp puts another one in the NFL.
However, with some of the talent Texas brings in, I could get those guys to the NFL
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Not the guy I thought they'd go on D
Not sure if Carroll taking Thomas ahead of Taylor Mays says anything.
Thought they’d look DE.
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Carroll is a stand up guy.
No way he’d put his personal preferences over the good of the team.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Could be turned into a dig at Raheem Morris.
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Giants are up
Hoping for Dan Williams with the way the draft has gone so far.
I would love to trade down a few, but I’m afraid that Williams would be gone then and Giants would reach for Weatherspoon in they moved down to around 20.
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Is he the kid from UT?
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
yep (if you mean Tennessee)
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for Williams
Weatherspoon is from Missouri
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Dang work. making me not enjoy the draft as much as I should be.
dang 3ds Max for being overly complex.
Man, has anyone ever had an Expedition Stout from Bell's Brewing Co?
Amazing. 10% ABV and you’d never know it.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Apr 22, 2010 9:12 PM EDT reply actions