Florida State Seminoles Recruiting Board 2011
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Wilder’s top 4 in no order are: FSU, Miami, GT and Bama
If Bama pulls Crowell you really have to like our chances. Just can’t see GT or Miami winning a knock down, drag out fight over FSU when it comes to a kid like this.
I've been hearing good things about Shaq Beverly, Eric's brother.
What position does he play? Will he be a highly rated recruit?
Shaq plays cb.
He will be highly rated in my opinion and we definitely will be in the mix.
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi
O-Line will be the strongest group
There are so many talented O-Lineman in this class that fit the Trickett mold and are interested. He’ll get a solid group. This will also be the year that recruits get to see a finished product in Hudson and possibly draft bound Datko. Offensive line is by far my least worried about position this recruiting cycle.
Datko will not be drafted this year.
There are 5 underclassmen tackles considered ahead of him by this NFL expert
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Top-underclassmen-offensive-linemen.html
With his injury history, he needs all the college tape he can show.
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Ray Drew
in my opinion is one of our top 2-3 targets on the board. He will definitely be one of those late commits and probably won’t rush his decision. Everyone wants this kid though because of his size and character. Expect his offer list to have all the big boys listed and everyone will be pushing to land him. Williams and Newberry will probably land in this class, but Drew is the one who has me salivating. And is Ryan Shazier not listed because he is projected as a linebacker?
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Shazier is a backer tp FSU
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Williams would be a good addition
But only if we are able to get him along with another legit WDE prospect. Whether that be Drew, Rabasa or someone of that caliber. We seem to have trouble landing quality WDE recruits right now. And while a hual of Newberry (SDE) and Williams would be nice, Williams seems to be more of a developmental prospect at this point while Drew is not only elite but a lot more college ready from a size perspective.
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 1, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Jesse Hayes is a quick turnaround kid. As in, get a few kids like him and your defensive end position will go through a quick turnaround. He’ll be able to compete immediately, and he is probably more valuable to a situation like FSU because of the dearth of defensive line talent. He’s going to have trouble playing higher than 250 lbs., so his best fit is probably at a hybrid LB/DE position. He could stick as an undersized weakside end, but he would likely be surpassed by other prospects later in his career, at that position.
He seems genuinely interested in FSU, so his trip to Tallahassee will likely tell the tale.
Art Modell gives me a hard one
So my question here would be
were we to sign both Newberry and Drew (my wish list) would we still accept his committment were he to fall for Tally upon a visit making this a 3 DE class?
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by Randall W. Spetman on Jun 1, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Depends on who else we take at DT
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 1, 2010 5:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Rabasa would be the only other DE i'd think about taking
Not a huge fan of Williams myself, i’d much rather take an additonal DT.(Jerrnigan obiviously or the kid out of Lakeland)
We would definitely take any on the list.
Jernigan will not be on the DT board that comes out tomorrow. FSU has zero shot.
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yeah Jernigan is just playing the game
but we might get a visit.
I'd take Williams as a luxury item of sorts or developmental type
But I’d be pissed if we got him and otherwise came up empty in regards to any other top notch WDE. Newberry,Williams, along with Drew or Rabasa? Cool. Newberry and just Williams? Something’s amiss IMO
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 1, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Granted, I don't believe Ricardo is really 6-5
He looks no taller than Kitchens. If so, not by much
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 1, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I have some questions for the recruiting gurus here at TN.
These might be obvious to some people but I’m interested in anyone’s opinions. It seems to me that FSU is being listed in the top group of schools in many of the better players this year. Is it just that I haven’t noticed it in other years or is Fisher successfully selling FSU? Or is it the new coach effect, schools with new coaches getting hype? Maybe a combination of all three.
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It's a combination of multiple factors.
We’re no longer recruiting with half of a coaching staff; the new coaches (along with the ones that remained after the change) are known to be very good recruiters (with a few exceptions that are unknown like Eliot) and are selling FSU; and there is increased hype around the program with the coaching change. The biggest factor is probably having a few coaching staff capable of, at a minimum, adequately recruiting players. This has allowed the coaches to cover more areas and players. Jimbo and Coley no longer have to visit each and every recruit (Jimbo actually can’t anymore anyway) cause now we could send Gran or Stoops also.
by nolesblogger on Jun 1, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed, and thanks
I remember from years past, that FSU would be in many recruits (mainly FL) initial interest. Then for reasons addressed adequately on this site (only some of our coaches actually working) that FSU would be dropped when recruits would make their first cuts. Just wanted to hear from other TN members.
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Beverly will be a rivals 4*
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 1, 2010 5:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
A lot of people haven't been all that impressed with Beverly's tape
They have no clue as to how his skill set matches our system perfectly though
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 1, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
how interested are we in aaron green?
since we’ll probably only take 2 backs this class….is he one thats high on our radar?? according to rivals he’s the 21st overall prospect and has us in his top 4….yet there is no mention of him above….
He's high but we have little to no shot and is thus not on the board.
He’ll join his brother at Nebraska or choose Texas
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So sad
Tim Jernigan isn’t listed. Besides Christian Lemay his name is the one I am so bummed we have no shot at. I’ve seen him play live a few times and he is going to haunt our backfield in a few years mark my words. And him being rated #45 yesterday on rivals was a joke. Elite talent going Gator ^%@^$^&. Lawrence-Stample is going to be a future star in my opinion. Why no mention of the 2 Wrights? Marquise Wright and Gabriel Wright? Marquise is being recruited by Coley and is coming out for an unofficial.
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi
No shot at either Wright. No interest from either Wright.
The one is a Bama-UGA battle. The other is going to Penn State.
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Jernigan has always been a pipedream
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 2, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I know
Jernigan has always been a dream……..still it hurts.
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi
Am I too high on Tyler Hunter or is he dropping in the rankings because of the injury?
He is way lower than I expected he would be in both rankings.
Injury concerns
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 2, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
What list do you prefer?
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None of them at this point. Right now, it’s all about placating the subscriber base for Rivals. Their final rankings are the only ones of interest to me, because they’re the ones they actually try to “get right.” They know people only remember the last list.
I don’t have a very high opinion of ESPN, based on what I was told about their evaluation process by other people in the industry. Their list is pretty solid, as far as names go, at least.
No one really pays attention to Scout but I think their list is best right now.
Art Modell gives me a hard one
Not to me.
But I doi like the ESPN list better overall
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Here's Fishbein's thoughts on Dix:
Ha-Sean Clinton Dix-Dr. Phillips-(Committed to Alabama)-Been watching safeties for a long time in Florida. The best safety prospect I saw come out of high school was Reggie Nelson….Dix is at that same level. He is the best safety prospect in Florida since Nelson. Kenny Phillips was top five in Florida, Willie Downs was top five, Major Wright was top 10….He is better then all of them coming out. He is better then Kenny because Ha-Ha is a bigger play maker, he was better then Downs because of the character issues, he is better then Major because of his coverage skills. Dix is just a special talent.
Art Modell gives me a hard one
Williams is a better LB prospect than HaHa though
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 2, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Safeties!
We have 5 committs to play safety, any thoughts on how that position is going to pan out? As well, Wont we need to get a punter this recruiting cycle – If I am not mistaken I thought Powell is a Senior.
They aren't all safeties. 2-3 will be corners.
No Powell is a Junior
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Like that!
That means we will have a good mix of tall perimeter corners with the reids, joyners!
My guess:
CB- Keelin Smith, Tyler Hunter
S- Lamarcus Brutus, Karlos Williams (eventually moves to LB- could really flourish under Hudson)
I maintain that Davis flips back to Clemson. Would love to see the coaches slip Waisome into his schollie, and Waisome would play CB.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 2, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Grooms would be another possibility at CB if he comes to FSU
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 2, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Are we after Grooms at all?
Checked out his film and I like his quick feet, COD, and explosiveness. I think Hunter plays S though. He’s already 200 pounds
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 2, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
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Not that I expect to land him
I just expect Cortez (FSU’s Demar Dorsey) to flip leaving us with four DB’s (If Karlos stays at S). I know $EC $chool$ really want Groom$’ $ervice$. And I think that’s where he winds up
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 2, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I have heard those rumor$ Newberry too
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That would suck....Newberry is the only DE...
we seemed to have a shot at that is worth a damn.
Not impressed with our DE recruiting.
I think other schools are killing us over the Eliot hire
It won’t stop until our ends produce under his direction IMO
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 3, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I disagree
I don’t see a lot of schools with really proven DE coaches.
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55, that's just wrong.
There are a lot of good kids on the DE board. Why the negative attitude all the time?
Did you not read the evals? What would lead you to conclude that none of the others are worth a damn?
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For Instance, Rabase is the #10 DE in the country, per ESPN
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They haven't Eval'd Williams yet
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Not to even mention Drew.
Some other guys will crawl out of the woodwork as well as the season progresses. There are some decent guys on the board for sure.
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi
Top 10 in the country is more than decent. I don't know what Noles55 wants
there are 5,000 prospects. One Jadeveon Clowney. Unless he’s in your backyard or you have some special connection…
Bama took DJ Pettway, rated as the #29 DE. He a scrub?
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I said 2 things...
*Newberry seems to be the only kid interested in FSU worth a damn.
*Not impressed with our DE recruiting.
You keep mentioning DE rankings. I think the DE class overall (nationwide) is not very strong and not very deep.
Rabase seems to be solid…..I understand he has visited many times….but I just smell Miami on this one. Not a big fan of Williams….I think he is too small. He needs 40 pounds just to get to be an averaged sized DE. I see Toshmon again.
I am frustrated Drew is in our backyard and it doesn’t seem he has much of an interest in FSU. I don’t blame FSU for this….it is just frustrating.
You mention a few guys FSU has no shot at (Clowney, Pettway)….so I am not sure how that counters my points….in fact…seems to support my points.
Is FSU doomed at DE? No, of course not. Do I think FSU is not doing great at it’s most critical position? I think that is the reality RIGHT NOW. Might FSU pull it out…..I think FSU will. But right now….I am concerned.
Part of my other concern is this…..due to HORRIBLE coaching….I have NO idea if FSU has 7 good DEs on the roster or 0. I just can’t tell.
I don’t think any of what I said is irrational and I am not sure why you got so upset about it. I find it somewhat ironic you are tossing out insults about ‘negative all the time’ when on other websites (theterritory.org) you have a HUGE reputation for being ‘negative’.
That insult is one often thrown at people for just pointing out the obvious and other folks don’t like it. Like you did during the Bobby years……just odd that you turn around with the same kind of smack. Just a bit overboard IMHO.
I think he threw out the negative comment because I've never see you say anything positive.
Who says Drew doesn’t have much interest in FSU? He came to like 3 of our home games last season. We have to be top 2 w/ UGA at this point.
He threw out Clowney and Pettway to say that the guys we are recruiting are still very good, even if they aren’t Clowney they are better than a guy Bama took.
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Drew, Williams and the rest aren't worth a damn?
Or are you saying we don’t have a shot at them?
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by Randall W. Spetman on Jun 4, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Grooms is a baller but he has a street agent running his recruitment. LSU and Tennessee will be likely destinations.
Art Modell gives me a hard one
I'll stop
This about DT’s. And I love our projected haul
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 2, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Shocked! That Tennessee would do that.
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Hell, it took the new staff only three weeks to flip Rodgers
And thats being nice
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 2, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
in terry bell's defense...
tenoroc is new school and hasn’t had much time to groom a quality football program….although his film against lakeland should prove what kind of player he is bc they are always tough
I noticed
that ESPN finally rated Eric Beverly and Sterling Lovelady. Eric Beverly is rated the #28 RB, 78, 3-star. Sterling Lovelady is rated the #5 OC, 77 3-star.
A little surprised by both rankings
I don’t know all too much about Beverly but I thought Lovelady’s was high because I thought not many people knew about him.
oops
I didn’t mean Lovelady being a 3-star was “high”, I meant I was surprised he was rated the #5 OC
Glad ESPN watched game film, and we have a long way to go
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Rabassa is still pretty raw and can be a grown ---- man as we are said to be seeking.
Also talk about swing players! Trey Bell can legitimatley play DT SDE and OT. I like him best at ot or SDE though.
Giddy-up!
Not super high but we need some depth, no?
Yeah, Bell is a freak. Told ya :)
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Rab is really good
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damn I love the height and potential weight for these guys
and the short guys are already huge. no more ray piquion and allen augustin.
With last year's defense
I would have given half an ass cheek to have Piquion or Marcello Church out there.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 3, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Would Jarvis Jones
supplant Shazier if they both wanted in? Or do we take both (plus Smith and presumably Steward)?
Also, we seem in decent position for some highly coveted guys this year, do you think that makes Jimbo make more roster cuts than you originally thought?
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I think we take Shazier if he wants in
Jones has an injury question mark that hasn’t been answered yet.
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Shazier is a backup plan in case we miss out on guys higher on our board
Jones and Shazier have no effect on one another. I don’t expect Shazier to be at FSU.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 3, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Shazier is here.
Along with Steward and Smith. I’m not sure Jones lands here though. I’ll believe it when I see it and with the cycle of backers we have I’m not sure it’s worth the risk/reward. Shazier has so much upside and could turn into a star.
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I think he is a backup plan unless he is open to playing different positions
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 3, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Uh guys
there being no LB recruiting info up today is making it very tough for me to slack off in my bar prep class.
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Have any of the cats from down south who ended up at USC been successful??
Keith Rivers (Lake Mary, FL)
Kyle Moore (GA), and Patrick Turner (TN) have made it to the league. And Michael Morgan (Dallas) is doing well currently at USC. A few guys have transferred, but that happens everywhere.
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 3, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Bryant is a starter, doing well
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Drew is a signing day decision
He will not decide early and will take all 5 visits.
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Little more?
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Best analogy.
Jones was a lock to Oklahoma, Tennessee, Florida, Alabama and Notre Dame. Between him telling people what they want to hear, and him genuinely being confused, rumors went crazy. Prepare for Drew to be a lock to everywhere until NSD.
95 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
Thats why I won't even worry too much over Drew at this stage.He's a NSD decision and that's that
Not to mention we’re battling multiple SEC schools for his services. Newberry has me a bit worried though
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 3, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
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That's like the Seinfeld episode where the mentor of Jerry's GF was dating Bania.
Ovaltine anyone?
by marlins44 on Jun 3, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
How on earth is Jody ALLEN his mentor?
That to me sounds absurd.
by Tubby Sweetbundle on Jun 3, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would he say bad things?
Guy had a job he wasn’t suited for for how many years?
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Tony Steward - best LB prospect since Sims ..
Better prospect than Bradham, Luc, and Christian Jones? Wow … what a great pick-up that would be.
Definitely over Christian and Luc
Christian was very very raw. Luc is probably close to being maxed out physically already. All three are elite. Steward just gives you the freakish ability to cover guys from the linebacker position. Think Derrick Brooks.
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Great comparison
Jones is raw, but will be a star in my opinion. Luc is the most intriguing. Size isn’t an issue with him, but he needs to work on a few things. Steward is Derrick Brooks 2 in my mind. His angles, athletic ability, and quickness are scary. Landing Steward would be huge.
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I feel Luc will be a beast...
…but that he has a low ceiling relative to Jones, and definitely Steward.
by PadraicTheSeminole on Jun 6, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Quick question for the recruiting guys, if they're still lurking around this discussion
1.) Is there any way to get this thread pinned to the sidebar, so it stays? It’s nice to have recruiting stuff all in one area.
2.) Why does Scout have so many more 5* prospects than ESPNU and Rivals? They have 35, compared to like, 13 or 14 for the other two? I just found that interesting.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Jun 4, 2010 9:26 PM EDT reply actions
I can help you with the first part
The Board is pinned up on the left hand side where it was last year. Hope that helps!
We have a solution for the discussion problem coming on monday.
gahnki has the answer for the second. Remember that CJones went from a 4 start to 5 without moving too much during the rankings. He simply just ended up being one of the last five stars.
92 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
Scout is always a lil more generous with the 5* imo
I think this year Rivals wants to avoid ranking someone as a 5* out the gate and then having to drop them to a 4* later. They may be doing the same thing with 4* as a couple of our guys I thought would be 4* are only a 3.
by osceolafan2.0 on Jun 5, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
No Grooms or Therezie.....I'm just sayin'....
Of course I’d be more than happy if we kept Cortez and didn’t sign another DB. Is Pryor an option only if we lose Cortez?
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Got his Cane offer and reportedly put them on top of the list
by osceolafan2.0 on Jun 7, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
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