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Welcome to the recruiting discussion thread.  Please refer to the Recruiting Board for information on prospects.  We are asking readers comment here instead of the recruiting board so that the recruiting board will load quicker.  Feel free to talk recruiting news, rumor, information, etc.  Amateurs and experts are all welcome.  No question is too simple.  Have a projected class?  That's fine as well.

Once this thread fills up, we will start a new one.  

Also, please don't fish for information from subscription websites.  Violators will be banned from this thread.

Notes:

  • 2012 K Marshall Morgan is on campus. 06.11.10.
  • Jimbo Fisher camp this weekend. 06.16.10.
  • Rashad Green commits to Florida State. 06.17.10.
  • Removed RB Marlin Lane as he got a Clemson tattoo.  06.18.10.
  • Jacob Coker commits to Florida State. 06.21.10.

FAQ:

1. Are the five-star Texas RB considering us?
Unlikely.  We know FSU is in their top four both, but we don't buy the hype. Malcom Brown will most likely go to Texas, and Aaron Green will likely join his cousin at Nebraska. New article suggests that both still have FSU in their top four. Credit Coach Eliot for his Texas connections getting FSU's foot in the door.
2. Where do FSU stand with Ray Drew?
Georgia is definitely in the lead. FSU is fighting with Clemson and Auburn at this point for second.  Drew was at the FSU camp over the Father's day weekend and spent time with CJF.  FSU will likely be in the process the whole way.
3. What happened to De'Joshua Johnson?
Was not able to qualify for Florida State.  Appears he needed much more work academically than what was represented... 
4.  Will FSU take 2 WRs now instead of just Rashad Greene?
This is tricky.  FSU is loaded at wide receiver and doesn't need to take another.  FSU could have as many as 13 wide receivers in 2011.  That's more than optimal and is not a good use of finite resources (85scholarships).  However, this answer likely depends on the future of Jarmon Fortson (could go pro early), Taiwan Easterling (baseball, but when?), and Cam Wade (don't see many non-contributing 5th-year seniors on the roster).  The coaches will be in the best position to determine this, and we are not going to second guess their move here.
5. What's up w/ Tony Steward?
Steward camped at Clemson over the weekend.  Clemson is in desperate need of linebackers because its current crop lacks both quality and numbers.  Plus, Steward's idol is Ernie Sims, who was coached by Clemson LB coach Kevin Steele.  Steward named Clemson his leader following the camp.  Despite this, we are confident in FSU's position with him.  Steward is very respectful and has said good things about everyone.  Clemson will be an underdog in 5-7 games this season and it would be hard to see them land the top LB prospect in the nation from out of state while finishing with 5 or 6 losses.  While we are mindful that Clemson can promise him an immediate starting job playing for Ernie Sims' former coach while FSU cannot (FSU is loaded with linebacker talent), we think FSU is in good position at the present time and that FSU's position will only improve from here.  It will really depend on whether the kid prefers immediate playing time or the better program.

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So RB Beverly definitely redshirts

Any chance we may ask him to greyshirt (aka delay enrollment by a semester to allow him 1.5 years total)?

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by ricobert1 on Jun 18, 2010 9:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Don't know the kid, but First Coast is in an economically poor part of Jacksonville. May not be able to send himself to school for a year.

Also, I wouldn’t want to hurt our connections there. If it is a numbers pinch maybe, but I doubt it as of now.

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by SWFLNole. on Jun 18, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus

I think he’s still picking up scholly offers from major schools…
Think Auburn just offered after the news broke about the ACL surgery.

by BenDNole on Jun 18, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he grey shirts he doesn't go to school full time until the spring of 2012.

So he wouldn’t have to pay for school unless he wants to take a class or 2. He would basically be like an EE for the 2012 class.

by nolesblogger on Jun 18, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know if they're required to take some courses or not though.

Obviously can’t take 12 credits if they do take courses.

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by tricknole on Jun 20, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm not sure either.

I don’t think they are though. The point is to push by the start of their eligibility clock so I don’t think they would be required to take classes at all.

by nolesblogger on Jun 20, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he enrolls in school

he is no longer a grayshirt. Grayshirt applies to prospects that sign a letter of intent in Spring, but don’t report in the fall with their teammates. They delay entry to college until midyear, i.e. January. This means that the NCAA five-year clock doesn’t start ticking until the player enrolls as a full time student, so gray-shirting is really a delayed version of red-shirting. They cannot enroll in college as full time students, can’t receive their scholarship, nor practice.

"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi

by 1newplayer on Jun 20, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should clarify

that you can enroll as a part time student, but if you enroll full time then you lose your grayshirt status.

"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi

by 1newplayer on Jun 20, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think this is right.

Josh Gehres told me that he enrolled at FSU in Fall of 2008 but did not take a full 12 hour+ course load. He was only a part time student paying his own way.

75 days till Samford. 09.04.10.

by DA-2 on Jun 20, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

correct

you can enroll part time just not full time and you can’t receive a scholarship, nor practice.

"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi

by 1newplayer on Jun 20, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

you are not required to register for school. DA-2 you can dig up the info on the NCAA site if you want. Here’s all I could find off the cuff

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/nli/NLI/Frequently+Asked+Questions/General/What+is+Grayshirting

"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi

by 1newplayer on Jun 20, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

here's an article on grayshirting

on fellow SBNation sister site Dawgsports

http://www.dawgsports.com/2008/1/15/155239/437

"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi

by 1newplayer on Jun 20, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Haven't been following closely this year.

What are the projected decision timelines for Newberry, Drew, and Steward?

by Nole2005 on Jun 18, 2010 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Most expect Drew and Newberry to be as well.

I don’t think Steward goes that long.

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by tricknole on Jun 18, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was told via the man behind the curtain that controls TN's Twitter account to "relax"

Which I am…because I think he’s just caught up in the camp thing.

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by Randall W. Spetman on Jun 18, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks for this again Bud

will rec it so it turns green so it can easily be found. Great list of kids coming in. Love to see Steward and Wilder on the list.

"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi

by 1newplayer on Jun 18, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marlin lane!

Offering Theus is because he’s an amazing longsnapper/ could be a backup c/g, and his brother is ridiculously good (left tackle)

Ponder lacks arm strength? Think again.

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by Bud Elliott on Jun 18, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glad to see kids like Rabasa going to the camp

Jimbo must pleased that most of our QB targets will be attending. A lotta people anticipated Williams commiting already. I’m wondering if he’s still waiting on that scUM offer. At any rate, if he and Akins come as a package I’d be pleased. Solidifies our presense in SoFla even further and we’d get a two for one out of the deal

by westcoastnolefan on Jun 18, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Impressive

Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....

by TLHWG on Jun 18, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

8th grade film?

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by tricknole on Jun 18, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Should've also said impressive film.

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by tricknole on Jun 21, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are 20 year olds

that don’t 1-cut run like that. Devastating.

He’ll probably grow another 6" and add 50+ lbs. What are they feeding these kids?

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by ricobert1 on Jun 20, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve learned to never question camp offers. For Ohio State at least, they’ve had a remarkably high hit rate. I would imagine it’s about the same for any school. The chance to work with kids in person is so valuable.

Art Modell gives me a hard one

by gahnki on Jun 19, 2010 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just started following this guy not too long ago...

Any idea which sites he does work for? He seems pretty knowledgeable.

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by Randall W. Spetman on Jun 19, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thaaaat makes sense.

Geez. Oregon and FSU. I wonder if he travels much

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by Randall W. Spetman on Jun 20, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Miami grabs the other St. Thomas WR

FSU’s is top 20 in the nation
Dorsett is top 20 in the state.

Ponder lacks arm strength? Think again.

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by Bud Elliott on Jun 19, 2010 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully UF and UM split Benjamin and Watkins since neither seems to be going OOS

Do not want both of those kids going to the same school. Especially since we never had a chance with either of them

by westcoastnolefan on Jun 19, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sammy's a stud

The only WR that I’d take over him is Farmer from out here in SoCal and Farmer is a nutso athlete. Just a tad bigger and faster than Watkins (100 meter Cali state runner up). I hate looking at Sammy’s tape though knowing we have no shot

by westcoastnolefan on Jun 19, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can view the video here, if you’d like.

Funny that he has an Ohio State hat out there. They canceled his visit scheduled for this weekend. Ohio State was no longer an option for him.

Art Modell gives me a hard one

by gahnki on Jun 19, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully OSU can grab Story via a miracle and we don't have to worry about playing all these elite 2011 Florida WR's every year

I know it’ll be an uphill battle in order for the Buckeyes to land Story. But we still can’t take him evidentally

by westcoastnolefan on Jun 19, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

FSU can

and very well might. But they are in the best position to know what Easterling/ Fortson/ Wade do

Ponder lacks arm strength? Think again.

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by Bud Elliott on Jun 19, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know if we have room. He is visiting soon, but his spot may be filled.

Art Modell gives me a hard one

by gahnki on Jun 20, 2010 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Was sent this, per his facebook

Bobby Hart Tally treating me so right ! I love this place. Got to talk it over with my peoples ! Noles -—>

Bobby Hart I know we gone win [a championship] ! Specially with ej !

Note that Aquinas often doesn’t let its kids commit early because it detracts attention from their lesser prospects.

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by Bud Elliott on Jun 20, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

and Joyner

Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....

by TLHWG on Jun 20, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

December

not sure if this is early, late, neither…

Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....

by TLHWG on Jun 20, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

AKA right when their coach wants them to

Not in June.

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

"But How will I know limits from lies, if I never try."

by geoffissiffoeg on Jun 20, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why would he care?

STA is not a program that needs a high profile recruit to get other kids looks. It’s not like Luc last year.

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by tricknole on Jun 20, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's widely believed that George Smith doesn't like commits prior to the season.

It’s hard to argue with Smith’s methods.

75 days till Samford. 09.04.10.

by DA-2 on Jun 20, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know what his methods are.

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by tricknole on Jun 20, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn't have his kids play 7-on-7.

Prefers that his kids commit later in the cycle. He recruits the best talent in 954 area.

75 days till Samford. 09.04.10.

by DA-2 on Jun 20, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like Lincoln.

I won’t argue with his results. I’m not sure the 7 on 7 and commitment stuff matters much though.

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by tricknole on Jun 20, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe it doesn't. Some kids get their admissions to prestigious college

revoked after they fail their second semester of Senior year. Maybe Smith believes that kids become complacent when they have a scholarship spot on a college team. If I were a coach, I would not care like you.

75 days till Samford. 09.04.10.

by DA-2 on Jun 20, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could see a coach not wanting all the recruiting hoopla to distract a kid.

I would think that trying to win a state title would prevent them from getting complacent. And I would understand it in a situation like Luc last year (new or historically weak football school with an elite recruit).

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by tricknole on Jun 20, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

FSU offered 6'5" 220lb QB Jacob Coker

Kid’s recruitment is going to blow up. Out of Mobile Alabama. Coach Craig was on him when he coached in Mobile last year. Big arm, extremely athletic. Played in the Wing-t last season.

Ponder lacks arm strength? Think again.

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by Bud Elliott on Jun 20, 2010 1:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Found a vid on the worldwide leader

Jacob Coker

My impression: Scrappy player that makes some good reads in spite of a swiss cheese o-line.

by Caveman Mafia on Jun 20, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Intrigued by Bell

Any thoughts on our chances and our competition for him?
Also, Is newberry a lost cause yet?

by Nole2005 on Jun 20, 2010 9:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Coker was the best QB out there, better than Rivers, Cato, Brissett & another 2012 kid"

Ponder lacks arm strength? Think again.

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by Bud Elliott on Jun 20, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bud, is your eval based on what you saw with your own 2 eyes

or someone else? (or both?) Thx

Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....

by TLHWG on Jun 20, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry that was a quote from someone out there. I have the back end quotation mark, not the front end.

From what I see on tape of this kid (very little)…

He looks like Ponder did in HS. Very very good runner, throws behind a bad OL and in a wing-t offense so it’s all waggle/boot. But he’s gained 3" and 35 lbs since the end of last season. He crushed the Mississippi camp and you have to look at a kid with his tools and say wow. I bet he has 15 offers by August 1

Ponder lacks arm strength? Think again.

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by Bud Elliott on Jun 20, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

When he watched his ESPN vid I also thought young Ponder

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by geoffissiffoeg on Jun 20, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can someone briefly summarize how camps are working this year.

My understanding is that there will be several small ones.. So I assume the guys that are rec’d are going to be divided into several camps.

by marlins44 on Jun 20, 2010 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

It's split into June and July camps

Which gives prospects more time with the coaches because they can camp more often. It also offers more options for campers. And it allows you to pay HS coaches to take the kids up there twice.

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by Bud Elliott on Jun 20, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt he does, but does anyone know if Mike Matulis has an offer from LSU?

Just found out from people at Park Vista, his brother Chris is a pitcher for LSU’s baseball team. Chris is 6’5 too.

80 days till Samford. 09.04.10.

by DA-2 on Jun 20, 2010 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Two musings

Both my son and his friend who attended the camp pointed out who they thought the best QB would be. Don’t know his name but they indicated that he is a rising soph and I know his parents car has South Carolina plates.

Next…some coaches were gushing over a kid who told me he is a rising junior from Brevard County. I believe he said his last name is Mays. He is very polite and respectful and he was referred to as the “future” at FSU.

Does anyone know who either of these two might be?

by fsuclipper on Jun 21, 2010 12:24 AM EDT reply actions  

My guess is that the Brevard QB is Steven Hughes from Palm Bay

He’s a Class of 2011 prospect with fantastic footwork and scrambling skills, and passes that look effortless and yet zip 30yds.

Here’s some video: http://www.youtube.com/yobata59#p/u/3/4MH1pDq3rew

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by basaltrock on Jun 21, 2010 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lots of good QBs from there

I’ll try to look it up.

This is a 2013 kid then?

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by Bud Elliott on Jun 21, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I should clarify

The kid who I assume is from SC, and my son and his friend said was “amazing” is a rising soph.

The kid who I personally talked to out of Brevard told me he is a rising junior…I am lead to believe he is a receiver or RB. He was called “the future of our program” by a couple of athletic officials who were there. Very respectful and seemed to be proud to be “our future”.

The kid from SC has a hot Mom but I’m not sure that her husband would appreciate this observation…he was there also, taking pictures of the Unconquered statue.

Just trying to clear it up…hope that last comment didn’t go too far.

by fsuclipper on Jun 22, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

The kid who I assume is from SC, and my son and his friend said was "amazing" is a rising soph.
Hmm. Unsure here.

The kid who I personally talked to out of Brevard told me he is a rising junior…I am lead to believe he is a receiver or RB. He was called "the future of our program" by a couple of athletic officials who were there. Very respectful and seemed to be proud to be "our future".
Hmm. Brevard County. Height? White kid? Black kid? School colors?

Hot mom comments are always good.

I’ll ask around.

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by Bud Elliott on Jun 22, 2010 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry if this was asked

But since DJJ didn’t qualify does anyone think we would take 2 TEs?

We have good chances with both Fuse and O’Leary and maybe a sleeper later on just curious about your guys’ thoughts

by fsu1510 on Jun 21, 2010 5:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Very much doubt FSU would take 2 TEs in this cycle

that scholarship will probably go to a different position, maybe RB or WR

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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 21, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bud, FSU recruiting policy question

I know that some schools (e.g., Michigan) uses conditional scholarship offers, e.g., A-F, where an A-Tight End offer is the top TE prospect. So if the B-Tight End prospect commits, then later the A-Tight End prospect commits, the B-Tight End will not be allowed to sign, will need to look elsewhere, etc. Do you know if FSU has these sorts of conditional offers? To be honest, this policy seems required when a school makes so many offers—you can’t accept everyone…

Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....

by TLHWG on Jun 23, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ohio State does not, along with many other Big Ten schools.

This is a point of contention between the Michigan administration and Rich Rodriguez.

Art Modell gives me a hard one

by gahnki on Jun 23, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Offers are not always committable; however, a recruit will never be kicked out of the class unless there are legal or academic reasons.

So if the B-Tight End prospect commits, then later the A-Tight End prospect commits, the B-Tight End will not be allowed to sign, will need to look elsewhere, etc

This generally does not happen at any school in the Big Ten.

Art Modell gives me a hard one

by gahnki on Jun 23, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

In other words, you don't give a committable offer to the B plan until you're pretty much not an option for the A plan?

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by tricknole on Jun 23, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is a substantial difference in denying a player’s commitment and kicking him out of your class, even if it’s only in the human element.

Art Modell gives me a hard one

by gahnki on Jun 23, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thx

I guess the list of players we send LOIs to is top secret…

Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....

by TLHWG on Jun 23, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

You pretty much know who gets loi’s or not. And most of these kids have ceremonies at school that make it pretty obvious.

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by tricknole on Jun 23, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont see us landing both

i read a Fuse interview, sounded like he wanted early playin time

by xnolex on Jun 21, 2010 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Correct

No team would land both of those kids unless Fulse agreed to play DE. I love O’Leary at TE.

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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 21, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha, I didn't realize they were in his top 3.

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by tricknole on Jun 21, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

y would oleary go to UF

he would just b benched behind christian, the te that they picked up last cycle

by xnolex on Jun 22, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure he'd be on the bench.

But that is the exact excuse I’ve heard from gayturds as to why they are not in his top few.

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by tricknole on Jun 22, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

As J_Hop said Saturday

FSU offered Devontae Freemen, RB 5’10" 192 out of Miami Central. Fast rising prospect who will likely get a UF offer as well

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by Bud Elliott on Jun 21, 2010 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd been wondering about that kid for the longest

Unfortunately he was stuck behind Gainer last year and got no burn. He was pretty impressive against MNW last year in limited totes. Gran must have really liked him

by westcoastnolefan on Jun 21, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's an interesting offer

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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 21, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rivals says he already has one.

Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.

by AMFKNole on Jun 22, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rivals says he has one.

Any film?

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by tricknole on Jun 21, 2010 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

(In response to Bud just above.)

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by tricknole on Jun 21, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like FSU just landed its 2010 QB

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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 21, 2010 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

sounds like a gem

not high profile but i hear hes great. good size too.

by fsudude on Jun 21, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder what SWFLNOLE will think about that one? Heh heh

Brisset was his guy I think. No 2 for 1 Dwyer HS special evidentally!

by westcoastnolefan on Jun 21, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am ok with it. Brisset was my guy for a long time but I think Coker impressed so much in person that I am in favor of that.

Same thing happened with Holmes last year, and many of us think he will be a fantastic player.

This kid can play and has really projectable skills.

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by SWFLNole. on Jun 21, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok cool

Just had to jab you a little bit. It’s all good. Enjoy going over your evals of prospects

by westcoastnolefan on Jun 21, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I know it was just a jab, I don't mind it

I put my thoughts on 50-100 prospects out there every year for thousands to read. There is no way I will be perfect, or have the same opinion as the coaches 100% of the time. Especially when half the time all I have to watch is highlights, and some opinions from local coaches.

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by SWFLNole. on Jun 21, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shazier to the Gators.

Art Modell gives me a hard one

by gahnki on Jun 21, 2010 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Not surprising at all

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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 21, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would you trade Smith for Shazier? Honest question.

We only want 2 LB, so for him to have fit in with us he would have to be better than Smith or our 2nd LB spot (Steward hopefully)

He is not better than Steward.

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by SWFLNole. on Jun 21, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't

Both are great prospects but I like Smith over Steward.

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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 21, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

over Shazier I assume you mean.

and I feel they are terribly similar, but I like Smith

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by SWFLNole. on Jun 21, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, over Shaz

Steward is a clear-cut #1

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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 21, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Smith's frame over Shazier's

He’s gonna end up a lot bigger than Ryan I think

by westcoastnolefan on Jun 21, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Shazier's frame. He is wide set up top and has really long arms.

Smith has a great frame too though. They are so similar to me.

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by SWFLNole. on Jun 21, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

Both are very similar athletes but I know Smith has a great support group at home and that pushes him over the top. Makes him more likely to succeed. And he has good grades and will EE.

Ponder lacks arm strength? Think again.

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by Bud Elliott on Jun 21, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shazier is little more than a nickel LB set for passing downs

I don’t believe he has the frame to add necessary weight for a starting gig, or even on run downs.

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by basaltrock on Jun 22, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

So our wish list to wrap up recruiting is...

ILB Tony Steward
TE nick o’leary
DE (2 of) Ray Drew, Anthony Rabasa, Trey Bell) still think bell should play OT
OL Bobby Hart and one more guy.
Correct?

Obviously if we could pull an over the top RB or DB we would make it work>

Giddy-up!

by truecolors on Jun 22, 2010 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Steward (although I think at FSU he becomes an OLB)
O’Leary
Hart + 2 more OL
DL (likely 2DE and 1 more DT) (since we’re doing a wish list) Drew + Newberry (but Ricardo and Rabasa would be fine by me)

That’s keeping it realistic. Clearly I’d be happy to be sign Wilder up right now.

21 Seems a bit high… hmmm I’ll have to rethink this. Maybe 1 less OL and get 4 instead of 5?

Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.

by AMFKNole on Jun 22, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Drew used to be my number one but now I've just started to accept we may be done there

even if we aren’t necessarily actually done.

Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.

by AMFKNole on Jun 22, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

i have my doubts with Ricardo Williams

everyone is saying he should have committed by now, but he hasn’t. He is waiting for a UM offer, that is probably never gonna come because at UM they are good at their jobs

by xnolex on Jun 22, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sarcasm?

Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.

by AMFKNole on Jun 22, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

the um part yes

but williams i honestly have my doubts with

by xnolex on Jun 22, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

One more RB (Freeman could fill that spot)
O’Leary
3 OL (Matulis, Hart, and one more- my guess is Williams but I’m hoping for Joe)
2 DE (Williams and hopefully Newberry or Rabasa)
1 DT (Bell)
Steward

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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 22, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about Akins?

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by Randall W. Spetman on Jun 22, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bell >>>>>>>> Akins

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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 22, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good.

I just want a biggun on the DL

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by Randall W. Spetman on Jun 23, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would think

LB Steward
TE O’Leary (Fulse would be a great “fallback”)
DE Drew and Williams
DT Bell
OL Hart , Lang and Newberry (yes, as an OL)

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by tricknole on Jun 22, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would rather take newberry as a dt

as it looks right now we will get good oline prospects

by xnolex on Jun 22, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Newberry is a very good OT prospect.

Better there than as a DL prospect, and better than most on our OL board (not that I’m an expert).

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by tricknole on Jun 22, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Newberry isn’t better than Matulis or Hart, has better hips than Pettis, and Lovelady will play Center so he doesn’t really match up.

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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 22, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not including guys we already have committed.

Matulis has supposedly blown up this spring/summer but I just don’t find his junior film impressive, which is what I’m basing my opinion off of. I said “most” because I think most would agree Hart is the best ol on our board.

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by tricknole on Jun 22, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

was just giving my thoughts on where he stacks up

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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 22, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know.

I was only explaining my pseudo ranking.

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by tricknole on Jun 22, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently Jimbo & Co offered Devonta Freeman

a running back, does this mean they dont like their chances with Wilder

by xnolex on Jun 22, 2010 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't think that's what it means.

Cause I don’t think we were planning on taking two backs regardless unless we got an elite one plus Beverly. This might be just to have some insurance in case Beverly never recovers. Just my thought on it.

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by AMFKNole on Jun 22, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Recruiting

This year’s recruiting effort seems much more “tight.” Not only do we have our class over half filled as summer is just kicking off, but we seem to have done a much better job narrowing down and identifying those kids that have a legit interest in the program. Each position we are looking to fill seems to only have a few candidates but all seem decent and reasonable bets to be Noles. Guess that’s what happens when the entire staff contributes.

by CJS55 on Jun 22, 2010 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

thats because they actually get started at the end of sigining day, last year it was like begining december

by xnolex on Jun 22, 2010 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

hey xnolex

be sure to use the reply button so you comments don’t seem out of place and it’s easier for everyone to follow the conversation.

by jasonole59 on Jun 22, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is there any film on Devonta Freeman?

I have searched the web and havent found 1 thing

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by Thunder64 on Jun 22, 2010 11:58 AM EDT reply actions  

This kid is good

stays on his feet, quick elusive, and runs through opponents

by xnolex on Jun 22, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Likes/Dislikes

Big
quicker than you think
Ball is absolutely PINNED to his chest.
Always dilevers the blow
good hands

Dislikes
not gonna run an 80 yard touch down probably ever.
dances in the hole just a bit.

Giddy-up!

by truecolors on Jun 22, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

the dancing can be fixed in college

but i think he has deep play threat, just not much of a threat

by xnolex on Jun 22, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Class Size

While position specific size has been discussed handily on this site, I don’t think the issue of class size been addressed directly. Based on last years roster at ESPN, we will have 23 Freshman, 34 Sophmores, 38 Juniors, and 16 Seniors this year. Is that a healthy breakdown by class?

by Cheaptalk on Jun 22, 2010 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

We've discussed it and may be off by 1 or 2, but should have 13 available.

most think there will be attrition, and that we will take 21 and worry about placing them later.

Giddy-up!

by truecolors on Jun 22, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya, serious attrition.

Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.

by AMFKNole on Jun 22, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Johnson already helped us out with a spot.

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by tricknole on Jun 22, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only because it's unfortunate than any player doesn't make it in.

But if you had to choose a position where a player failed to qualify, I’d choose wr.

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by tricknole on Jun 22, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

My biggest concern is about the long-term affect of the soph/jr class recruiting bulge

I’m not sure of the magnitude of this effect. It could be trivial. However, it seems like taking too many kids in one-year to meet immediate needs might hinder our ability to recruit the very best athletes in subsequent years. My hunch is that 20-22 recruits per year is the optimal number to maximize our flexibility and attractiveness of the program to recruit the top prospects.

by Cheaptalk on Jun 22, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

all the elite programs "over sign" it usually takes care of itself.

a guy gets injured, or doesn’t qualify, or was simply a miss-evauation.

example: AL signed Dre Kirkpatrick #1CB a couple yeas ago and he’s never stayed healthy enough to get in the regular rotation. He’s getting another surgey this off-season. They are now desperately trying to fill depth at DB. And this is after over signing each year.

Giddy-up!

by truecolors on Jun 22, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

As Bud has previously stated

Terrence Smith is on track to EE

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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 22, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent job!

The recruiting needs and the eligibility roster are fantastic. I’m sorry I missed that before

by Cheaptalk on Jun 22, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a problem at all

The issue is keeping track of scholarships. I’ve been working on this for 2 years now and believe I have it right. It’s like a snowball. Always have to keep updating or you’ll be wrong. I believe I have it within 1 scholarship, and that is negligible considering the kid in question is a senior.

Ponder lacks arm strength? Think again.

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by Bud Elliott on Jun 22, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Predicted Class as of June 22

QB: Jacob Coker
RB: Eric Beverly, Devonta Freeman
WR: Rashad Greene
TE: Nick O’Leary
OL: Trey Pettis, Sterling Lovelady, Bobby Hart, Mike Matulis, Darrell Williams
DE: Ricardo Williams, Giorgio Newberry
DT: Derrick Mitchell, Nile Lawrence, Terry Bell
LB: Terrence Smith, Tony Steward
DB: Karlos Williams, Tyler Hunter, Keelin Smith, Lamarcus Brutus

Keep an eye on: RB/LB James Wilder Jr (UF), TE Brandon Fulse (UM), WR Jajuan Story (OSU), OL Ryan Kelly, OL Errin Joe (UM), OL Markus Jackson (UM), OL Quincy McKinney, OL Jacob Fahrenkrug, DE Anthony Rabasa, DE Jesse Hayes, DE Silverberry Mouhon, DT Chavis Akins, CB Nick Waisome, S Calvin Pryor, DB Cortez Davis, DB Senquez Golson

  • I think Cortez Davis goes to Clemson, hope I’m wrong. If his spot is replaced in the DB class, I think it will be Pryor or hopefully Waisome.
  • I am no longer very confident on Errin Joe. I really hope FSU pulls him, and there’s still a good shot, but I think he will eventually land at UM if they keep the heat turned up. Good news is, this OL class will be among Trickett’s best ever. I think Williams will be available until NSD if necessary.
  • If FSU misses on Newberry, look for Rabasa or maybe Mouhon if he plays lights-out his senior year. I was actually tempted to put Rabasa in, but am holding out hope for Newberry. Other factors that may develop soon might pad this smaller DE class.
  • I like our chances with Freeman as the #2 RB. Have never been confident on Wilder, hasn’t changed.
  • My top three most wanted who haven’t committed to FSU: 1. Steward 2. Bell 3. Matulis

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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 22, 2010 1:11 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

i wouldnt give up on wilder,

plus i dont see us landing Matulis, plus what about ray drew, i wouldnt give up on him

by xnolex on Jun 22, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

im not gonna guess on who we land until late fall

by xnolex on Jun 22, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's too easy, c'mon!

The risk is what makes early predicted classes fun. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong. Certainly wouldn’t be the first time.

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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 22, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha yea

but if i do all that it is gonna drive me crazy until NSD

by xnolex on Jun 22, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I guess if it's all in fun...

I’ve never done one (even though I’ve been here a while). I would simply be basing my opinion off of what I’ve read here, or tharinger, etc…

I’ve never talked to a recruit, or a recruit’s family, coach, etc…, so to me it’s kind of pointless.

by jasonole59 on Jun 22, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

We disagree then

FSU should be in Wilder’s top schools until the end, but we won’t finish first. Would like to hear why you think FSU won’t land Matulis. I think Ray Drew is done to UGA, he’s supposedly recruiting other kids there.

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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 22, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did he show up with his family for the Fisher Camp or was that just a rumor?

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by tricknole on Jun 22, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

idk y

i just feel as if we wont

by xnolex on Jun 22, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

my bad

thought i replyed to NoleThruandThru

by xnolex on Jun 22, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

You did!

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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 22, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you know

  That if you get lost trying to follow someones reply to a comment in a long thread, you can click on the “UP” button on the thread you are wondering about, and it will take you up to the original comment that the member was replying to.

From http://www.tomahawknation.com/2010/1/16/1254644/did-you-know-that-tomahawk-nation

>-----:----:------>Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.

by FrankDNole on Jun 22, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

>>>-----------;;;-->CP7 for Heisman>>>-----------;;;-->

by RollNole5 on Jun 22, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Baxter, you're so wise....like a miniature buddha

but seriously, thanks for that little tidbit. Never noticed that feature

by Caveman Mafia on Jun 22, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

...covered with hair

>-----:----:------>Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.

by FrankDNole on Jun 22, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had to use the up button to figure out who you were replying to. ;-)

>-----:----:------>Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.

by FrankDNole on Jun 22, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glad I was able to bring something to the party.

>-----:----:------>Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.

by FrankDNole on Jun 22, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm feeling good about Wilder for some reason.

i just don’t see him ending up at Georgia, Georgia Tech, Oregon or Florida (who else am I leaving out?).

Our running scheme is perfect for this dude. With Gran as his coach, he’d be most prepared for the NFL, and he’s gotta know that.

by Tubby Sweetbundle on Jun 22, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still don't know how we got Gran.

Hopefully football revenues increase so we can keep all these coaches.

by marlins44 on Jun 22, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn't matter. He's a gator.

Our only shot was if UF refused to look at him at RB and Wilder refused to play LB. Looks like neither is happening.

by Nole2005 on Jun 22, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be a pretty impressive class

We get the ten linemen (OL/DL) we want.The only realistic options I’d would like to add are Akins and perhaps Golson

by westcoastnolefan on Jun 22, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

they are saying to one of their rb commits

that they arent getting another rb recruit in this class

by xnolex on Jun 22, 2010 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

While that's true

Wouldn’t Mack hear if UF finally came through and told Wilder he could play RB if he came?

I mean, I realize the guy has no recourse really besides a transfer which forces him to sit out a year, but you gotta imagine anyone thats been promised something by Urban Liar and then had it taken away would be livid.

Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.

by AMFKNole on Jun 22, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Consider the source of that statement

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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 22, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

No pedo but still homo?

lol

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by geoffissiffoeg on Jun 22, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Burn.

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by tricknole on Jun 22, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

But still pedo?

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by tricknole on Jun 22, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats a good interview! Sounds positive.

Bud, How would you compare these years OLine committs to Ed Christian from last year?

by DesiNole on Jun 22, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't believe how young he is

and yet he’s still that big and that highly rated.

Florida State Seminoles

by basbalstr101 on Jun 22, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

that sucks

that he thinks its a sign from god not to go to FSU

by xnolex on Jun 22, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quote from the article:

"I really hope we get Mike Matulis at FSU," said Hart of the Park Vista offensive lineman. "That guy is a really good player."

Doesn’t that sound like he’s going to FSU to you? He is already picking out the kids he wants to play with?

74 days till Samford. 09.04.10.

by DA-2 on Jun 22, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

MATULIS!!!!!!!

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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 22, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

That statement puts the entire interview into perspective.

I think he wants to be 100% FSU instead of maybe 95% which he is at right now. I give the kid props for being mature about the situation. So many kids get caught up into the show, and don’t really know what they’re doing. Seems like a great kid.

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by NOLE09JON on Jun 23, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meh.

There’s creams and gels available at the pharmacy too.

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by Randall W. Spetman on Jun 23, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Out of context? lol

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by tricknole on Jun 22, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

the lsu visit worries me

maybe im just bein parinoid, but what if he goes to lsu and loves i

by xnolex on Jun 22, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

15?

I thought he was going to be 17 when he graduated, but he will only be 16? That’s absurd. If he thinks Matulis is a really good player, that and the good spring reports on Matulis have me on the bandwagon.

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by tricknole on Jun 22, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Gosha is done.

Don’t expect him back with FSU, as is with most cases of commits, decommits. AJ Alexander’s just don’t happen. Possibly Cortez Davis might do that to us this year, though.

74 days till Samford. 09.04.10.

by DA-2 on Jun 22, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have heard many keep saying this. I have noticed Clemson is getting a good recruiting class going this year. Do you think the team having the better season wins out for him?

by DesiNole on Jun 22, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope it does, because then we'd win out.

I think what is going to influence him is Cortez jr. Kids are a huge burden. FSU is closer, but CJ Spiller use to do the seven hours up to Clemson from Lake Butler. I honestly think FSU wins with Cortez’s father’s love for FSU and Cortez having a son, and FSU being the better program. Still, I think Cortez would much rather be a Tiger.

74 days till Samford. 09.04.10.

by DA-2 on Jun 22, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

If that makes sense to you.

He wouldn’t be wavering if he didn’t like Clemson better. Still, I think there’s too much pull for FSU for him to switch.

74 days till Samford. 09.04.10.

by DA-2 on Jun 22, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope you're right man

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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 22, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

More than a few people feel Bell is at least equal to if not superior to Gosha

Certainly seems like the staff is pursuing Bell a bit harder at this point. Maybe they realize Gosha is gone as well

by westcoastnolefan on Jun 22, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nile is a beast tho

and mitchell is pretty good too

by xnolex on Jun 22, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats good to know

I think Mitchell’s rivals rating is a joke. Barnes was a 4* player last year and people have said that Mitchell outplayed him last year at First Coast.

by westcoastnolefan on Jun 22, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

This staff seems like it can care less about star ratings

I love that. For too long we were just relying on where players were rated.

by marlins44 on Jun 22, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats sad

that our coaches did for a long time, like ed i

by xnolex on Jun 22, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm one of em

Love Bell

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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 22, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

SEC

We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.

by NoleThruandThru on Jun 22, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guys, at this pace I'm going to be opening up another Discussion thread either tomorrow or the next day.

Loving this discussion we’re having.

If you’ve rec this post, could you do me another favor, and now unrec it so it will fall off the rec’d post sooner? Appreciate if you would. Probably going to start making a habit of rec it to make it stick, then unrec to make it fall of the rec’d fanposts.

74 days till Samford. 09.04.10.

by DA-2 on Jun 22, 2010 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Even if it is just smoke

I think everyone should recognize the work DJ Elliot is putting in. FSU made Brown’s top 3 and Green’s top 5. Seriously doubt we get either one but for us to be in the discussion is an achievement.

by osceolafan2.0 on Jun 22, 2010 6:11 PM EDT reply actions  

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Will the people on that list please begin to “unrec” the thread so that it won’t stay pinned as long.

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by Bud Elliott on Jun 23, 2010 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Done, as well.

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

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by geoffissiffoeg on Jun 23, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe it's just me, but I found it amusing

that you included yourself on the list.

:)

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by RishiM on Jun 23, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. Definitely amusing.

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by tricknole on Jun 23, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are we actually in the running for Rasco?

And how would he compare to our other targets?

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by tricknole on Jun 23, 2010 6:31 PM EDT reply actions  

we are now

and he is better than williams, although i think we have a better chance with rasco than williams

by xnolex on Jun 23, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

You think FSU has a better chance with Rasco than Ricardo Williams??

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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 23, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has said he doesn't like our chances with Williams.

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by tricknole on Jun 23, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

cause williams is waiting for a miami offer, idk if he will get it, but he will wait until he has no hope for one

by xnolex on Jun 23, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotcha

I think Williams is on the commit list by the end of July.

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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 23, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rasco is from Shreveport so

it’s going to be awfully tough to pull him from LSU…. as well as Bama and Texas.

Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....

by TLHWG on Jun 23, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

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