Quarterback Jacob Coker Commits To Florida State Seminoles
by Bud Elliott on Jun 21, 2010 8:10 PM EDT
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Jacob Coker, a talented quarterback out of Mobile, Alabama has committed to play for the Florida State Seminoles. Coker plays for St. Paul's Episcopal.
TomahawkNation.com spoke with Coker about his commitment. "I was shocked. I had been to some camps before and not come away with offers, but Florida State asked me to come down and compete." Jacob said of the offer. Coker cited Florida State's coaches as the driving force behind his commitment, saying "Coach Craig and coach Fisher. They were very impressive. We really connected. I liked the way they challenged me and coached me." Coker also cited Florida State's beautiful campus.
One of the reasons Coker has not yet blown up on the national stage is the offense his high school runs. We asked Jacob about playing in the wing-t. "I'm a competitor and I want to win. I am a team-first player. We ran a lot last year, and I didn't get to throw as much as some of the [high profile quarterbacks]. But it wouldn't be right to run an offense that would showcase one player if it doesn't give the team the best chance to win. I have to make the most of my opportunities", Coker said.
Coker has also really grown in the past year. "I was 6'3" 175 as a sophomore and now I am 6'5" 210," Coker said. Coker also indicated that he added a Mississippi State offer today. We asked Coker if he gave any thought to waiting to commit, since his offer list is likely to grow after word of Florida State's interest spread. "No. I knew when Florida State started to show interest in me that I wanted to play for Dameyune Craig and Jimbo Fisher," said Coker. Living in Alabama, Coker grew up an Crimson Tide fan, but put his fandom aside when the recruiting process began in order to make the best decision.
Scouting Report:
Coker stands a legit 6'5" and weighs in at 210 lbs. This is where new quarterback coach Dameyune Craig's Mobile, Al ties pay off (Craig was the coach of South Alabama, in Mobile, before coming to Florida State). Stylistically, he looks like a young Christian Ponder, but 2" taller. He has put on ~30 lbs since the end of last season. Very very good runner. Throws behind a below average offensive line and in a wing-t offense so it's all waggle/boot. Coker has a big arm. He crushed the Mississippi camp by showing excellent athleticism. Wowed Jimbo Fisher at the recent FSU camp, and now has a Duke offer from QB guru David Cutcliffe as well. Comes from a program that produced top Alabama commit A.J. McCarron two years ago. We bet he has 15 offers by August 1. Also is fully qualified with a 25 on his ACT. Like Nile Lawrence and others, this is a good example of FSU's coaches outworking and out-evaluating other programs. Film
More proof of his athleticism comes from his basketball prowess:
Junior Jacob Coker led the Saints in scoring for the year at over 17 points per game. Jacob has received several post season honors including being named First Team Sweet Sixteen by the Mobile Press Register along with being named Co-Player of the Year by the coaches for Mobile County 2A-5A schools. Jacob will also represent the south in the Alabama Junior All-Star game this summer.
Coker has not yet been evaluated by the three major recruiting services. Florida State now has 13 commitments, and is well on its way to a second-consecutive superb class under Jimbo Fisher.
This evaluation from a writer at Tharinger.com:
FSU got a good prospect at QB! Tall, good arm & an excellent athlete. Superb baseball & basketball player at St Paul's. Excellent arm & can make all the throws with accuracy. Will likely need a redshirt year. Plays 5A ball in a powerful division in Mobile, & his team is seriously lacking in talent. St Paul's is a private episcopal & by Alabama rules must play above it size. Not many talented players can afford St Paul's. They play some of the best competition in the state like Vigor HS. Will need to develop as his offense does little to prepare him for college, plus his OL is like a turnstile against their competition. All the physical tools are there, plus he is extremely smart. FSU got a good one.
H/t: Chad Simmons and Plant The Spear via Twitter.
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Welcome to the family Mr. Coker!!!
Jimbo and Coach Craig doing WORK!
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 21, 2010 8:12 PM EDT reply actions
Glad to have a good QB wrapped up
now lets get working on the others and start another commit streak
Red.
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Gah, rec*.
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me too, good find
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 21, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Has a pretty quick release on the ball, can throw on the run, has a good set of wheels
…and that is some of the worst OL blocking I’ve seen in a while. Hopefully Trickett isn’t after any of those kids.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 21, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
looks like Chris Rix running around with that OL, but does have some nice zip on the ball
by freshcollegeboy on Jun 21, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I like..
these late bloomer types.
Dope Boy Fresh
We knew more kids would get discovered by our coaches
It’s amazing what a full compliment of coaches who know early scouting and evaluation can do
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 21, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
So true
You can’t underestimate that aspect of recruiting. Finding kids who are under the radar and staying on them during the whole recruiting process is so vital. I have the utmost confidence in this staff when it comes to this. How refreshing!
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It's better to find your below the radar guys in May, June, and July before they DO blow up
As opposed to finding them in December and January and calling them ‘sleepers’ to justify why their recruitment never did pick up at all. Paging Coral Gables!
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 21, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Fisher and Craig will have fun developing Coker!
Not a bad basketball player either…
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I know its early, but is this relatively solid?
I would imagine QBs generally draw out the process. Would be nice to have a similar situation like when we had EJ recruiting for us.
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Be interesting to see what happens as more schools discover him, he's evaluated by the recruiting services, etc
and yes, this is for 2011
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 21, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Bama bangs?
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Not if you're also sporting them.
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This day keeps gettin better and better!
Thank God for the men and women who stand tall in the night to protect this great country we love so much
by hntdeerliv4noles on Jun 21, 2010 8:41 PM EDT reply actions
was just about to post something like that
first we eliminate the Gators, now we get our QB.
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You do realize, its only because I wore my lucky socks today.
For real. Kinda. I really did wear my lucky socks, due to the fact my preceptor is a huge Gator fan. Im obviously not. This was a must win game! And sho nuff… we beat the bad guys! Then I call my dad to celebrate (hes a huge Nole as well) and he told me about Coker. I was at a bar and about lost my $#!*. Great day all in all. Note to self… gotta wash my socks for Wednesday….
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dont you know you dont wash em till we…you know what im talkin about….
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by hntdeerliv4noles on Jun 21, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Not so sure if I want this answer,
but is there any relation to Larry Coker here?? Also, is there any chance at all we take 2 QB’s this cycle??
FSU won't take 2 qbs
and if there’s a relation to Uncle Fester, it would have to be as a great grandson
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 21, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you suuure about that?
Some believe that FSU Brissett if he wanted to committ…
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by Randall W. Spetman on Jun 22, 2010 5:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
*would take.
i.e., the staff is still pursuing him.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Jun 22, 2010 5:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Better question is if he is related to
former FSU QB Kirk Coker, who walked on to FSU and was a part time starter in the mid’80s at FSU.
Googled on Kirk Coker and found out he is now Lt Col Coker, executive officer for the 10th Marine Regiment, 2nd Division. He’s had tours in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and received the Defense Meritorious Service Medal, Meritorious Service Medal with Gold Star, Joint Service Commendation Medal, Navy/Marine Corps Commendation Medal, and the Navy/Marine Corps Achievement Medal.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Jun 21, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I am not sure they asked him.
Ponder lacks arm strength? Think again.
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 21, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
"But it wouldn't be right to run an offense that would showcase one player if it doesn't give the team the best chance to win. I just have to make the most of my opportunities"
This quote is exactly what I want to hear from the guy running the offense on the field!!!
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 21, 2010 8:42 PM EDT reply actions
Where's that from?
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Maybe I should've refreshed before I asked.
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Agreed
Sounds like a great addition.
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by geoffissiffoeg on Jun 21, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Correction.
I knew when Florida State started to show interest in me that I wanted to play for Jimbo Fisher and Dameyune Craig
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I don't want to say it, but he reminds me of Tebow
He has the frame to easily be 6’5, 230lbs after a couple years in our strength training program. He’s a very good runner who will run over his linemen AND the defense with one fell swoop. His throwing motion is very erratic, and at times appears to resemble Tebow’s jump pass minus the jump.
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His release is much, much quicker than Tebows
You could peel a potato in the time it took Tebow to uncork the football.
But hell, if he’s what Tebow was for UF, none of us should complain…
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 21, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
If he's as good as either of them
I will be happier than a pig in sh*t.
by NoleySmokes on Jun 22, 2010 5:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
when Craig was first hired, you'd often hear "Coach Craig's ties to South Alabama will be a boon to FSU recruiting in the area"
It seems like cliche, unscientific rhetoric that easy to dismiss (at least I did. I’m a 75-year old mind trapped in an Adonis body)
Great to see the benefits materialize so quickly. Twas true!
by The K-Man on Jun 21, 2010 9:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
"I’m a 75-year old mind trapped in an Adonis body"
I lol’d, rec.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 21, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Welcome
I’m glad we are lining up or QB’s for years to come.
I'm really liking the work this staff is doing finding players.
Vast contrast from the days of actually relying on the recruiting services. We’re going out there and finding kids who have been passed over by the recruiting services and end up being 3-stars (Earving) and guys who the services didn’t have high up on their priority list to rate (Coker). It’s refreshing.
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Im just happy
that this staff is actually working and working hard. Unlike our previous staff who had the tendency to drag ass till the last minute then scramble to put something together out of the leftovers, these guys are going at it. Good things are happening at Florida State and this staff has stepped on the gas throttling us back to the top. I just cant wait.
Man, I am extremely excited...
I work in Mobile and the corporate apartment I stay in borders St. Paul’s. I go run on their track and play ball on their courts all the time. I for sure will be seeing Jacob in action on some Friday nights this Fall. Thanks for the info, T-Nation!
by HROB3 on Jun 21, 2010 9:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Nice! Keep us posted on him!
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 21, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely
Wanna join the podcast.
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Im gonna get over there too HRO...
It looks like his team plays at USA’s field, right?
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by Randall W. Spetman on Jun 22, 2010 12:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ugh...LP sucks
But perhaps I can get some good footage
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by Randall W. Spetman on Jun 22, 2010 5:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Honestly, St. Paul's stadium is nicer than LP!
I was at the last two Senior Bowls and the GMAC Bowl that was the monsoon a year and a half ago, and that stadium looks like a big, run-down old pop warner field! St. Paul’s is an EXTREMELY nice, but small school. All of their facilities are top notch, but again, for a small private episcopal school. As ‘06 says, they do play their home games (for the most part) at St. Paul’s – which I know because I can hear them from my apartment. I can’t tell how pumped I am that it would take more time for me to get in a car drive and over to see him play than it would to walk. I am that close. If you can get to a game and I am in town at the time, I would enjoy catching the game with a fellow Nole and show this kid some T-Nation support.
Will need a RS
and im cool with that. I think we pull a star QB next year though.(not to say the coker,secord or trickett wont pan out like ponder or better). we wont have a high 4-5 star qb other than ej as a sales pitch.
Since Coker destroyed the other qbs, he must be good. (Not a fan of rivers at all btw)
Coker may wind up being a "star" QB by the time NSD rolls around
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 21, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Me neither...to be honest, I wasnt buggy on Worley either
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by Randall W. Spetman on Jun 22, 2010 5:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
4-5 star
would it really be that likely to pull a 4-5 star qb next year with them knowing we’ll have 4 qb’s already under scholarship. I have no doubt in jimbo’s ability to develop qb’s, and from hs to college it seems the development is more important than the talent as long as they have the tools to make all the plays. So i dont necessarily feel the super stud qb outta hs is necessary anyway.
I guess im wondering if we are going to consistently pull solid qb’s but due to our picking up a qb every year make it more difficult to pick up the lemay’s ( or e.j’s again).
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by metalheadnole on Jun 21, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Quarterback is not an easy position to evaluate because...
there is so much mentally that you cannot see on the film. For other positions, there is less thinking. But for quarterback, particularly to play for Fisher, you simply cannot be a dummy. You need football smarts, but you also need study smarts to be able to study all the info.
Ponder lacks arm strength? Think again.
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 21, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Also, it is hard to measure how much the player cares. Coaches need to know how seriously a player will take his craft, especially at the one position that functions as a double major.
Camps are so helpful in that coaches get to see how players respond to bad plays, good plays, simple drills, interacting with teammates, etc.
Art Modell gives me a hard one
by gahnki on Jun 21, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd. Exactly.
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 21, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Jamarcus ran Jimbo's offense well.
Even Jimbo has said that the player he hears and reads about is not the guy he coached in college. It also didn’t hurt that his WRs were damn near always wide open. I didn’t know whether to give Jimbo’s offense or the WRs ability the credit for them being so open all the time. I guess it was a combination (current FSU offense…Dwayne Bowe – 1st rd pick, Buster Davis – 1st rd pick, Early Doucet – 3rd rd pick, Skyler Green – 4th or 5th rd pick?/track star, Xavier Carter – track star w/ world class speed).
I'm pretty sure they had Michael Clayton too
He went in the first round(15th Tampa Bay), I think. That’s not a bad crop of wrs put out by Fisher’s offense. Wait til Jimbo’s latest recruits become starters for FSU. FSU will strike fear in opposing defenses like when Richt was runnin things.
by NoleySmokes on Jun 22, 2010 6:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good call.
Don’t know how I forgot Clayton (he knocked a guy unconscious for several minutes in a high school game). I think his last year was Russell’s first, so that’s probably why.
But they never played on the field together
Russel took a RS in 2003, which was Clayton’s last year at LSU (drafted in 2004).
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This is exactly what I was asking about below
Seems like QB and linemen are the easiest to miss on “accurate” recruiting rankings due to all the variables.
Just wondering
Seems to me to be a qb for Jimbo, you have to be pretty smart (at least football smart). Anybody have an idea of how they evaluate ability to learn a playbook or read defenses.
They draw on the board.
Ponder lacks arm strength? Think again.
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 21, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
sounds sarcastic
but it’s not. Same way NFL scouts evaluate during one-on-one interviews
by freshcollegeboy on Jun 21, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I remember folks saying Eric Berry blew Bucs brass away with his knowlegde of the cover 2
Demonstrated by Berry while writing on the dry erase board of course
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 21, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Indeed
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 21, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Welcome, Jacob!
Can’t wait to see you in the Garnet & Gold!
Awesome Pick Up!!! Go noles!!
Alabama- What’s their Qb situation look like? I know they got a good one last NSD but are they looking to take one this yr?
by noles 4 life u dig? on Jun 21, 2010 10:41 PM EDT reply actions
They grabbed two studs in back to back years in Simms and McCarron
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 21, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Auburn has its QB
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 21, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice...
The link from VolNation you posted earlier had a high school friend that pretty much said he would auto-commit at an Alabama offer
by noles 4 life u dig? on Jun 21, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I hope he doesn't it then
and if so I hope Rivers or Brissett would be available
Dont worry - LetsGoNoles still comments during football off season
even tho i check daily… but I rarely choose to do so – especially over the pessimistic ACC/SEC stuff. BUT ANYWAYS , I had to comment on a QB commit. I like this guy from what I am hearing and reading…I will always be OK with taking a commit who hails from a place like Alabama or Texas – those kids already know how to play on the big stage from the get go, and know what it means to play QB (see Mr. Ponder). Places like Bama and Texas take their football quite seriously if anyone hasnt noticed.
I trust Jimbo (who doesnt these days) and Im ready to see this guy go
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by gahnki on Jun 21, 2010 11:28 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Yessir. TMBer?
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 21, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
LMAO
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 21, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I like it! Diamond in the rough.
6’5 210lbs and not even a senior yet. Nice!
Mobile, AL has some great HS football competiton. Vigor, Blount, Murphy etc. I like everything about this commit.
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Better yet, he's intelligent, has a big arm, quick release, and can really run.
Check, check, check, and check.
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Welcome to FSU!
Seems to have a problem squaring up his delivery and finding his balance, but that can be fixed. Look at that lateral movement and quick feet! Wonder if he can catch – we could always execute a few flea flickers or put him in as a TE if QB doesn’t work out.
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He does look like he throws well on the run but part of his problem is that he doesn’t step into his throws when standing still. That could be because he doesn’t really have room since his line moves straight back at the snap but footwork seems to be a common problem in high school QBs. It’s always weird to me when people ignore the foot and leg work aspect of throwing a ball because you can’t throw acurately without a good base. It all starts with the legs.
He reminds me the QB from Nevada that runs that "Pistol" offense...
Real tall, fast, and a cannon arm:
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by BigSpearDiplomacy on Jun 22, 2010 9:00 AM EDT reply actions
You have to respect a kid
Who goes into a camp a relative unknown, and yet leaves with a committable offer. Welcome to the Noles!!
question on espn rating of Coker
they gave him a 45 but no eval, is 45 just standard when they havent evaluated him?
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It always starts at 45 and doesn't move to 95 until UF offers.
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by SoCalNole on Jun 22, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
One question
I know its early and may be impossible to answer. But how does he compare to Ponder, EJ, Secord, and Trickett.
The reason I’m asking is because everyone is positive EJ will start in 2011 and will be backed up by Secord/Trickett. But after EJ leaves people seem a little iffy on Secord and Trickett. Will he be another “iffy” quarterback or are people predicting he will be another Christian Ponder who doesn’t look like a star now, but is a stud after development?
I typed out a huge response and computer ate it, so
He’s more physically talented than those two. He’s not as developed as they were after their senior year, but this kid is going INTO his senior year.
Most don’t know what they are talking about with Secord/ Trickett. Those two are not scrubs by any means.
Both will be well schooled, talented quarterbacks by 2013 (when EJ leaves).
Ponder lacks arm strength? Think again.
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 22, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
we're not going to
land a Lemay or 4/5 star guy every year at QB. Hopefully that doesn’t mean the guys we do land are iffy.
I’m already looking forward to the talk next year that we got at the beginning of this cycle about our NEED to land a top 5 stud.
I don’t see that as such of a big deal. Many 4/5 star guys fall on their face because the biggest asset a QB can have is between his ears. Many of those star rankings, just like many high draft picks, are inflated because of a kid’s physical attributes. I’m not saying that they shouldn’t be rated highly but I don’t look at stars as much as I look at who the kid has offers from. If they are getting offers from coaches like Petrino and Cutcliffe chances are the kid can play in a pro set, which is the type of QB we are looking for. (The same could be said for linemen.)
People seem to forget
That Ponder was a 3 star QB – just like Secord and Trickett – and he seems to have turned out OK.
Maybe so
But doesn’t it appear this kid brings more raw material to work with than those two?
I think he has better physical talent, yes
But that’s not all there is to the game.
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i get where you are going
A little disturbing to see an unrated guy outta Craig’s old backyard after taking another coach’s son. It’s fair to question. But this kid looks the part on film. Though the low lights are always more telling than the highlights imo.
by Ponder This on Jun 22, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Are you seriously implying FSU took Trickett because of his dad?
Kid had offers from UF, Arkansas, etc. Was the top QB in the state.
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 22, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he means
if an uneducated Saturday-only FSU fan saw this, it could look like that. I agree that it could, but as soon as you look even minutely closer, you see that it isn’t nepotistic coaching, it’s elite coaching
by freshcollegeboy on Jun 22, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
He called taking Coker and Trickett "disturbing".
And said “it’s fair to question” [taking them]. Seemed to backtrack by saying “this kid looks the part on film”. Not sure at all how to take those comments.
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"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
take them for what thry are
Nobody gets a free pass anymore, jumbo included. If I see a guys kid taken at quarterback then yes, I am going to question that. And it is a fair question. With trickett we have seen a solid recruit so far. Hopefully this guy is as good.as advertised, but personally understand why someone would scratch their head at a wing t qb when would afford to pass on position.o
It's not a fair question after looking at his other offers.
And we cannot afford to pass on the position. Absolutely not.
Ponder lacks arm strength? Think again.
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There is a big difference between the coaches son, and a player from one of the coaches home state
I dont think you can compare the two. You can definitely question the fact that one is a coaches son, but as Bud said, seeing that UF and other big schools offered tells you something more. I don’t think there is anything fishy about this move on Cocker though. I mean, there are tons of recruits from Miami, and isn’t that where Coley hails from? Would you question that?
I dont think Fisher or any of the program can risk taking a QB (the #1 of all positions) based on favorites. You can put ( a lot of ) money on Jimbo putting a lot of thought into a quarterback pick – no doubt. So with all this being said, I dont think you need to question Cocker at all – just be excited about this kid!!
Some people see nepotism everywhere because of Jeffy.
If they cant look past that to see qualifications (Hint: Clint already has more then Jeff), then its their problem.
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He's just not yet rated. He's not lowly rated.
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 22, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
You wouldn't accept a commitment from a position like QB in June
unless you were 100% sure he was worthy.
Bingo
You take it becaus ehe beat the pants off the other highly rated kids at the cmap
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Disagree completely.
The kid is going to be huge and hugely talented, physically. Remember he’s a HS junior. Give him a couple years of development with Jimbo, and, given the measurables, he could be amazing.
And Trickett is no slouch. He’s just small. That’s why we have the S&C program to get him ready. And, again, he’s still a couple seasons from his chance for serious playing time.
by Drew J Jones on Jun 25, 2010 6:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I just had a thought..
are the razorbacks interesting in Coker? If not, I’m afraid we’ll have to pass.
Why?
I trust Jimbo’s ability to evaluate talent for his offense. Certainly until he proves that I shouldn’t (which I think is highly unlikely to happen).
Yeah, this guy had to be pretty impressive to basically come in and snag a committable offer
over some other “evaluated” QBs.
Oh, I'd just like to continue our tradition of snatching QBs from them.
Secord and Trickett.
I got the joke
If it makes you feel any better.
by TimScribble on Jun 22, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Petrino does know his QBs; he wanted Secord pretty bad
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Remember
Ponder was a 3* from a run orientated offense in TX and tured out wonderful under Jimbo and Co…he wants athletic smart kids with size, jimbo will do the rest…we got a good one. He will probably top out at 6’6" 230 keeping his athleticism under our new strength program. Go ’Noles!
Good post
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I don't know what I would do
If he was 6’6 230 when he walks on campus.
Something very stupid though.
by freshcollegeboy on Jun 22, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Saw about every name imaginable in there except for Newberry.
Nothing we really didn’t know but just nice seeing it being written about nationally.
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"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
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Will make this kid a stud! Jimbo is the Premier QB Developer in all Football
by DeanerNoleProphet on Jun 22, 2010 6:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
i like
i like this kid but i honestly dont know why any qb would want to come here this year and be 4 deep on the chart next year. But Great Sign.
by bleadsgarnetngold941 on Jun 23, 2010 4:58 PM EDT reply actions
He can red-shirt, you know.
In the long run, it’d probably work out better for him anyway.
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