CLOSED 2011 Recruiting Discussion Thread #1
by DA-2 on Jun 7, 2010 2:07 AM EDT
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PrintWelcome to the recruiting discussion thread. Please refer to the Recruiting Board for information on prospects. We are asking readers comment here instead of the recruiting board so that the recruiting board will load quicker. Feel free to talk reqcruiting news, rumor, information, etc. Amateurs and experts are all welcome. No question is too simple. Have a projected class? That's fine as well.
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Notes:
- Eric Beverly's profile has been updated in the Recruiting Big Board. Eric will need ACL surgery. 06.10.10.
- 2012 K Marshall Morgan is on campus. 06.11.10.
- Jimbo Fisher camp this weekend. 06.16.10.
- Rashad Green commits to Florida State. 06.17.10.
FAQ:
1. Are the five-star Texas RB considering us?
No. I wish they were, but they just aren't. I know we're in their top four both, but don't buy the hype. Malcom Brown will most likely go to Texas, and Aaron Green will join his cousin at Nebraska. New article suggests that both still have FSU in their top four. Link in comments by Randy Spetman (poster).
2. Where do we stand with Ray Drew?
Georgia is definitely in the lead. We're fighting with Clemson, Auburn and Tennessee at this point for second. Don't want to speculate until he's been back to FSU's campus.
3. Who will be at the Jimbo Fisher camp this weekend?
Bud Elliot has a post in the comment section on some of the prospects that are expected.
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Are we selling our Track&Field program to Crowell at all?
Or is he only concerned with football when he gets to college?
"May the gods keep the wolves in the hills and the women in our beds."
He's not track fast IMO
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Great idea, DA. Having the discussion topics pinned on the right of the page is super convenient.
So….recruiting, huh?
Anyone got any thoughts about Bellamy committing to Clemson?
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by Randall W. Spetman on Jun 7, 2010 10:48 AM EDT reply actions
they should have a great backfield
since they also have Lane signed. Lane however is coming back from an ACL tear so whether or not he returns to form remains to be seen. Bellamy is a stud though and one of the best if not the best rb in Florida. Rb is not a position of need for us right now though and I epxect both lines to be our primary focus this cycle.
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi
Committed.
Not signed. I’m sure that’s what you meant but just in case others think you mean he’s arriving on campus this summer.
I am MORE than happy with Beverly. Kid is a complete back. If he ran a 4.40/40, he’d be an elite back. But you don’t need elite speed to be a great back, imo. And as you said, I’d much rather load up on the lines at positions of need than add a 2nd rb, where it may be a feel good/ego boosting type commitment, but it isn’t an important commitment for the future/betterment of the program.
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Does GT actually have a legitimate shot at Wilder?
Listening to some of their fans, it sounds like they’ve got him penciled into their class. That’d be a shot in the nuts to any of the big schools IMO.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Jun 7, 2010 11:13 AM EDT reply actions
Im not on the inside at all, but you'd think if he's hell bent on playing RB GaTech wouldn't be that far of a stretch.
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Giddy-up!
He’s a better prospect than Dwyer was, and presumably smokes a lot less weed.
Art Modell gives me a hard one
Absolutely
I was just saying, players that go to Tech to play that position might have trouble for a bit getting the credibility they deserve. I don’t know. I still think he ultimately plays LB at UF.
Team Gold
I don't think it's because he played rb at GT that he wasn't thought of highly by scouts.
He just lacked the tools teams were looking for. If you put Adrian Peterson in that offense, he’d still get drafted highly.
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Bridgewater? His Film at 7 on 7 is much better than the game film (where he's practicaly roling the ball end over end to WR's )
Thoughts on him and if this is an FSU miss
Giddy-up!
gahnki What's your take on the way "anti-spiral's" the ball?
freaky athlete and great measurables how much can he be developed?
Giddy-up!
My thoughts are that he never considered FSU.
Was always a Cane. Wanted a little attention talking up the SEC, then gave up for the good of the Canes. He’s a decent QB. I think he’d be a better WR, but I think the hype he will bring will be good for Randy Shannon’s job. Everyone around Miami thinks he’s the savior.
92 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
With Bellamy's commit...
…does that affect our stance with Lane at all (eventhough I know RB is low priority)?
I don't think we're interested in another T. Pressely (tremendous talent/ recovering from injury)
But that’s just my opinion. I like the current RB commit as he fits the scheme perfectly and is just a tiny bit underated. I say take Crowell or walk away this year.
Giddy-up!
I'd take Wilder even if he only wants to play center
Then you either show him he can’t and move him to LB or you end up with a pretty good RB on your team. Sounds like a win-win to me.
If things really turn out bad then he can always transfer, but he’s too good of a football player not to take on his terms.
If that rumor of having a Clemson tattoo is true, you got to wonder if he really switching.
I know people are dumb, but…
I still don’t see Lane switching. No inside information.
92 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
I heard that Parker and maybe P Robinson had Miami tattoos.
I thought Robinson grew up a Nole fan so I found that one harder to believe, but not much is “shocking” anymore these days.
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I'm pretty sure PRob grew up liking FSU too. Although he did commit to Florida for a bit there.
Although Parker was a Miami fan. Never knew about Miami tattoos.
88 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
I think his uncle or someone went to FSU and that's why.
Maybe they were only really big fans. I was so sure he’d commit to FSU on Sun that night and he didn’t. Then just a few days later he pulled the shocka on nsd lol.
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There was a discussion about the DBs on the recruiting board (bottom)
and this comment is re: Hunter moving to LB
I just don’t see Hunter having the frame to add enough weight to be effective as a LB.
Hunter is also the most fluid of our current DB commits and seems the best suited to play CB when we use man-to-man principles IMO.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe Hunter also has the most PT at CB in HS out of the 5 current commits.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
I've never heard/read Hunter to LB. Doubt he has the frame. Seems pretty bulky on his frame already.
I would agree that Hunter is the most fluid.
92 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
Hunter is 5-11 200 as a 17 year old
Seems like a Safety to me
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 7, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Hunter is as underrated as Bellamy is overrated...
Kid should be a 6.0 4* and is getting robbed because of his injury. Can’t wait to see him move up after his senior year…
"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath
Hunter is a DB, most likely CB
Rishi, you’re right, he is very fluid. I spoke to Reid and Demps at Fan Day last year, and both played him up big time, saying he was a lock to FSU, huge fan growing up, and Reid said Hunter was better than him (Reid) at CB, more fluid and more technical at knowing the position.
He will not play LB.
Reid may have been joking around, but it's what he said to me
take it for what it’s worth.
I locked the recruiting big board.
Now all discussion will go on here. Some questions (and a statement) from the recruiting big board:
1. Who are the major 2012 QBs?
ganhki: Gunner Kiel, Gary Crow, Connor Brewer
2. What about Buck Allen!!? Is FSU gonna lose him when he’s right in their backyard??
osceolafan850: Most teams are holding off on Buck because of the injury.
Bud Elliot: Allen broke his leg. He didn’t fit what we do and isn’t good enough to make us change the offense for him. FSU wants to take an elite back if it takes a 2nd kid. Allen doesn’t fit that.
3. My biggest question with JWJ is does he fit our offense?
SWFLNole: I mirror your exact sentiments on Wilder, evaluation wise. However, I can’t help but think there is a good chance he ends up at OLB. Which is just fine.
4. What do we value more: Getting Wilder as a back or to keep him away from UF in case he decides to play OLB after all?
SWFLNole: getting Wilder on roster and keeping him away from UF.
Bud Elliot: I think you let him prove he can’t play it
5. oline0175: Nick is a great compliment to Will Tye, Tye is a guy you can put all over place and create mismatches. Put O’Leary in the middle of the field and you have two guys that you are forced to account for with multiple personnel. The Dallas Clark comparsion is perfect. He also seems to be a much more willing blocker. Some smooth hands at the TE position are exactly what a QB needs in stressful situations, we don’t have the comfort zone right now and Nick O’Leary is that type of player.
92 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
More discussion:
1. oline0175: Marshall could be the best QB on our roster with a year under Jimbo. There’s some on here that talk about this "flick" but I won’t even go in to it. He’s a simple tweak of the elbow away from having a great release and driving the ball more.
The basketball thing means absolutely nothing as he’s got EJ\Trickett ahead of him so at best he’s on the bench for 2 years and playing his RS Soph year. Plenty of time to play bball and football.
Yes I am Marshall’s biggest fan and yes I coach quarterbacks for a living.
2. What type of QB works best in our system?
evenflow58: The better OCs will fit their scheme to their players. Ideally I believe Jimbo would like a good pocket passer with at least mediocre mobility but you can scheme around most deficiencies and it looks like Jimbo does. Having said that there will be some throws that a QB will have to make like a small window on a flag route and a screen pass but these are throws most QBs can and do make the outs are the tough throws but that’s not as big of a deal at the college level.
3. mmmCheese: While it’s plain to see Stephen definitely has Phillip’s throwing motion, it’s his older brother’s mental game that I would hope Stephen has if we take him. What impressed me most about Rivers in college was his incredible pocket presence. He was always, always looking for an open receiver. I watched him evade more sacks by finding an open receiver at the last possible second than he could have if he’d started scrambling at the first sign of pressure. I used to tell friends from school that if we could have put Rivers’ head onto Chris Rix’s body, we would have one more Heisman in the trophy case.
If Stephen Rivers has that same talent, that same head for the position, I hope it’s something our coaches can identify through evaluations since in his high school video all twenty-five pass plays I saw the from the snap came out of the shotgun. I didn’t see a single snap from under center at all.
4. PadriacTheSeminole: (Ray) Drew Due to his religious nature, I feel we will be fighting an uphill battle against Mark Richt.
CelticPride: I understand, but "Florida State is the only school (distance wise), however, that would allow Drew to continue to participate in his church during college." I think that’s a huge factor for someone heavily involved in their church.
5. derekkg: Rashad Greene is a beast. I would take him over story even though Story is a great athlete. Greene smaller but he is more well rounded. As far as the size Story does get a point there but Rashad can get up a little just look at his box jump. Either/both are fine with me.
92 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
stilts: Greene returning punts quite a bit. I would’ve thought Joyner would’ve done most of that. (They did play on the same team right?) Quite a compliment to be good enough to keep Joyner off the field.
92 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
Greene is an outstanding prospect. He reminds me of some of the medium-sized
greats that UM had at the end of the 90’s and early part of the 2000s.
by Dark Stranger on Jun 8, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I assume you mean he'd be the best QB once EJ leaves...
"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath
I think that's what oline meant. (I was just quoting what oline posted in the other thread.
not my words or answer to his question. Sorry for not clarifying.)
92 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
He just committed to UGA as a S
I’m beginning to wonder if we sign a QB this year.
I’m a big believer in signing a QB in every class, but not sure who we look at a our new top target at this point.
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"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
just saw a few posts below on this topic
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
Not yet man
Holding off until I get settled at my new job in late June/early July
At this stage my concern is FSU holding on to the majority of the kids committed. What a great foundation for the class!!
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 8, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I can tell you that Davis will not be on my commit list
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 8, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Gerald Demps or Telvin Smith?
Hah. But yes, I agree. Someone posted either her or at ThaRinger that Reid said the same exact thing.
88 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
Not sure so please enlighten me.
Do we have a snowball’s chance in hell w. Jadeveon Clowney?
......and let the paramedics sort 'em out!
No problem,
Just trying to think of people close to the Charlotte area i can scout.
......and let the paramedics sort 'em out!
Hey guys.
I had to go through and delete a couple of comments. Please don’t leave insults at each other. Also, I put a link for the Demar Dorsey talk fanshot at the top. Please post questions related to Demar Dorsey and Jarvis Jones in the Ongoing Discussion thread if you don’t want to use the fanshot. I really appreciate it. Thanks.
88 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
http://www.tomahawknation.com/2010/6/9/1508579/nick-marshall-chooses-to-play
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If USC loses 20 scholarships...
Imagine the ripple effect. Opens up California. Also can entice Florida’s national recruiting to go harder at California, and thus leaving Florida a little more open. What say you?
88 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
Great point
I’m sure Cal, UCLA, and the other Pac 10 schools are loving this
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 10, 2010 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I was wondering when this was going to be discussed
A buddy from another board told me yesterday.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Jun 10, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Beverly the recruit that the rumors of surgery are about?
"FEAR is just the Opening ACT!!!" Coach Coley
Rumors that some former FSU coaches are bitter and bashing the program
He’s very tight with Richt because of the whole Christian thing.
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I'm going to guess the aforementioned Allen,
but I think his recruitment lasts until the end and with a good season and our current coaches, we still have a shot
Yeah, I heard a few of em talking
“yeah, can you believe them. I know 2 days before I got fired I was saying how great they are, but that was just bc they had a gun to my head. I hated cashing those checks for not doing my job. FSU sucks. You should totally stay out of the city I would have gladly spent the rest of my life in.”
Thats a direct quote.
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Lol
scary part is I somewhat believe it.
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 11, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Get a good look at Rabasa and Williams down there in SoFla this season if you can
Looks like thats about as good as we’re gonna do………maybe
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 11, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I like Williams.
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I do too. He can really rush the passer
Just have reservations about how big he can get
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 11, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Just speculation on my part
but Christian Lemay committing to UGA is probably helping them a lot also (re: strong Church ties).
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Level 3 conduct violation.
UGA fans say that means sex drugs or violence in school
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 11, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
What about all 3?
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It's not a stretch.
That’s for sure.
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I would bet fight in the parking lot... Seriously
Sex and drugs would likely mean an arrest. I do not think that sex is illegal.
The world is truly coming to an end when bible thumping pocket passers are getting suspended
Maybe thats a bit of an overstatement but classify me as shocked. Christian Lemay: Character problem. Never woulda thought
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 11, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Woah woah woah.
If he attends a school with a strict moral code, and he violated it, it could be nothing more than getting in a fight or getting some stank on his hang down in the teacher’s lounge bathroom.
Or maybe he brought a ninja sword to school. Who knows?
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by Randall W. Spetman on Jun 11, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm hoping for the Ninja sword, to be honest.
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"Trick is right."
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I was being somewhat facetious, actually
Thats hard to convey on a thread sometimes. In our idol worshipping society, I’d be willing to believe young Mr. Lemay has had many ‘weenie whistlers’ demonstrate their prowess on his ‘hang down’
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 11, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
That really did make me LOL
I do not think I want FSU to be talked about because of a Bible verse on someone’s eye black. Just my opinion, but I would prefer a different image…
by pollynole on Jun 17, 2010 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
To me Stephen Rivers is a beast at QB and I would really like to have him on the roster.
I think he is undrated and would be great to have. What are our chances with him??
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I don't know if he's a beast, but I like him best out of our current options.
If you’ve got to take a QB in this class you would feel like you got a big strong kid with good vision and pockett awareness. Upside.
Giddy-up!
You don't feel you get that with any of the others?
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Upside yes, but I don't like completely raw material at QB.
want him to at least flash pocket presence and checking a reciver or two.
Giddy-up!
So you're saying none of our other qb targets have pocket presence or check down receivers?
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"Trick is right."
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You're right its a poor choice of words.
I meant targets I felt we had a shot at. I preffer Brissette but fear he chooses basketball, and was under the impression UNC was getting Worley
Giddy-up!
Javares McCroy to the Gators.
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=101344
Thought he really wanted to play with his brother??
Scummy move.
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 10, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
The family
Tell TTech it’s a package deal. Ben was at best “FIU” level. TTech should cut Ben immediately and then refuse to release him.
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 11, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Tubs might.
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If Tech ever wants to recruit Florida again they cannot afford to do that.
Art Modell gives me a hard one
I agree that it's a scummy move.
But it’s the chance you take when you take one player only because you want to get another player. Especially when the players are not packaged together in the same year. They took a shot, and missed.
Ouch!
But you are right. I think people need to think about things like the real world. In a business environment they would not hesitate to get rid of the lesser performers. And, as Bud has said, it is truly a business.
They only took him because he was bringing his bro
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 17, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, I was never all that high on Javares.
I forget who they were playing (maybe De La Salle?) but there was a nationally televised game last year where McRoy dropped a wide open touchdown and then proceeded to cry on the sideline. I know he is just a kid but if you have that much trouble controlling your emotions as a 16-17 year old kid something is not right.
I don't really see any problem with that.
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me neither
I think dropping an important touchdown pass on a nationally televised game would cause many a high schooler to get emotional. If anything it shows he cares about the game.
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I agree that having emotion is a good thing. But IMO you should be able to control tears by this point in his life.
All I’m saying is it seems like the kid has some growing up to do. Never met him personally and I have nothing against him but it seems like he is immature. He is a very good athlete with great speed but looks very raw to me and it doesn’t look like he is asked to run all that many routes at Lakeland. I’m just not all that high on him maybe I’m being overly critical but I feel like a high school football player should be able to control his emotions a little better than that.
I don't think tears portray your lack of "growing up".
It just might mean the kid is emotional.
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"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
Think you are being a little bit hard on the kid.
If you found yourself failing at something you are good at in a high profile situation, you might cry too.
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I lost a state championship and two state playoff games. One of the playoff games I played terribly.
Looking back maybe I am being a bit harsh but I just don’t think crying during a game should be looked at as acceptable. Plenty of guys on my teams were crying all three times (especially the championship game). Just something about crying mid game doesn’t sit right with me. I feel like kids this age should be able to control that a little better mid game. Idk I could be wrong but that’s how I feel.
This convo reminds me of this moment from a few years back
Most of us remember this I believe. It was more weird than anything, really. Check out what happens after about 2:10
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 11, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel like this is a little different.
Morrison was ending his career at this point and any dreams of a national title. If I saw McRoy crying after his team lost a semifinal game I would think nothing of it. That type of stuff happens. I wouldn’t even think it was weird if Peyton Manning cried after the Super Bowl. After something like that I have no problem with it. But I would prefer a guy who can drop a pass like that and put it behind them as opposed to someone who gets that shook up about dropping a pass. It is great to care but there’s a limit IMO
It sounds like he did put it behind him since
SWFL said he scored the game winning TD.
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This play happened somewhat early in the game if I remember correctly. They showed him on the sideline a possession or two later and he was still in hysterics.
I’m not looking for a fight here I’m just saying IMO that kind of stuff shouldn’t happen during a game especially when you are a stud football player and the top play maker for your team
Yeah I understand that, but it sounds like it didn't affect him too much if he scored the gamewinning TD.
It is really just a matter of opinion, and I respect yours.
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There are times when it is OK to cry
Sporting events are not one of them… I do not cry when I lose in my bowling league and I put a lot of work into that. The moral of my story is they need to grow up an move on.
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 17, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Better than mine.
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John 16:33
Tebow’s least favorite Bible verse.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
"But How will I know limits from lies, if I never try."
by geoffissiffoeg on Jun 11, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
He was also by far the best player in that game (including Haggins) and went on to score the game winning TD
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Haggins was the most impressive imo.
McCoy obviously with the best set of dippers. Haggins though made the big plays on 3rd and 4th to extend drives and threw a couple immaculate long balls.
by rocknrollnole on Jun 11, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I forget
What position is Haggins going to play at FSU? Was it receiver?
by fsufrenzy911 on Jun 12, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not trying to take anything away from his athletic ability.
Like I said in a post earlier he has very good speed and is crazy athletic. He probably is a bit raw as a receiver because it doesn’t seem like he is asked to run a lot of routes
lol I remember that.
Kid totally broke down and it was still early in the game (first half I think) and they still had the ball. LMAO.
by rocknrollnole on Jun 11, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm wondering if this means that Sammy Watkins is a Cane lean
if both he and Benjamin end up as Canes that’ll be a helluva WR class (along with Eli Rogers and maybe 1 more of JuJuan Story or Andre Davis).
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Hope Watkins is a cane
most explosive kid in FLA IMO
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 11, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Rather Cane than Gator
either way is bad news if you ask me.
He is one of the 5 or so most explosive players in the state.
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That makes sense
Kid is a Andre Johnson type specimen. Impresses me more than KB
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 11, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
No interest from him
SWFL kid, we don’t have any presence down there, it’s a UF-Miami battle.
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 11, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Any real reason for that?
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Yeah we don't have any presence in SWFL
we’re a 7-6 program over the last 4 years basically and an embarrassment.
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And you're slow as hell from what I've heard
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by Randall W. Spetman on Jun 12, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
That sucks
I don’t know whats worse: Us not having a chance or Randy Shannon of all people having a legit shot despite Watkins’ brother being a Gator
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 11, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Just a half brother tho
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Did they grow up together though?
I know Jaylen went to Cape Coral and Sammy goes/went to South Fort Myers, but that doesn’t really clear up whether they live/grew up together.
I would think that’d be more a deciding factor than half or full brothers.
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I know where they are.
But Lee (all FL counties?) has school choice, right? No idea if they just couldn’t get in the same school or if their non-same mother/father wanted them at a particular school.
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Looks like we're both partially right/wrong.
Apparently there are 3 regions in the county and you can choose within those. Cape Coral and Fort Myers are in separate regions. So Jaylen and Sammy must not live together. CCHS and SFMHS are about 25 miles closer to each other than Thomasville and Tallahassee.
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Did not know the regions thing.
and I knew the mileage because I live in S Ft Myers. The traffic is way different, but it was probably a bad example w Tally and Thomasville.
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I spent the last year in NFM.
The time/mile is greater from SFM to CC than it is from TVille to Tally. Definitely so in the winter.
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I am from Three Oaks area (old exit 20)
What were you doing in Ft. Myers?
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 12, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Graduated from FSU and needed a nice place to live (ie, rent free).
Dad’s lived there for years even though I’d never spent more than a few weeks at a time there.
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 12, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
It was alright.
Didn’t “do” a whole lot save as much money as I could and pay off some debt. In the Poconos now though for the summer. Move to Miami in August.
And I had no idea where Three Oaks was. Looking at the map it looks liks “eastern” San Carlos basically? I was the first exit north of the river (obviously, the second exit isn’t until you’re halfway to Punta Gorda), bout halfway between 75 and 41, but on the other side of Bayshore from Suncoast if you’re familiar with that area.
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 12, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Poconos?
I’m living in Mountain Top, about 5 mins from the I-80 and I-81 interchange.
What the hell is there to do up here? I just started work first week of May and haven’t really got out much.
I'm about 45 minutes east of Scranton just off of 84 and maybe 30 minutes before you get to Jersey.
I’m not sure what there is to do. Nature stuff. Ton of state parks and waterfalls and all that in the area. Hunting, fishing or kayaking if you’re into that. The Delaware Water Gap or whatever is close to me (Jersey/PA border). If you gamble there are a few casinos. I’ve also gone to Atlantic City (3.5ish hours from me) and I’ll be heading to NYC at some point (2-2.5 hours). There was the Pocono 500 a few weeks ago. NASCAR will be back in a month or two I think. I looked at tickets and they were only like 50 bucks. Might be something I’ll go to since I’ve never been to a race.
But if you’re looking for stuff to do a couple nights a week after work, you’re probably out of luck. It’s like 45 minutes to the nearest movie theater from west Milford.
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They are half brothers
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 12, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Some half siblings live together.
Or are you saying that because of some other reason?
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 12, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Ok.
A perfectly reasonable explanation, too. Was just trying to figure out if they lived together but went to different schools. Sounds odd but who knows.
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2012 K Marshall Morgan of Archbishop McCarthy is on campus.
Claims a verbal offer from Florida State. So far has enjoyed his visit.
(can you believe we’re already talking about the next Kicker?)
85 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
Any info on the kid?
Not surprisingly didn’t find a bio on either Scout or Rivals. Wonder if he can punt since that would be the first year Powell is gone. Perhaps we’d use a walk on if he’s strictly a place kicker.
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He can punt too.
If memory serves me right, as a Sophomore he was 3A All-State in both Kicking and Punting. I suppose it’s possible he could do a Graham Gano and just transfer over.
85 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
Cool.
Is he an “elite” type of kicker? And I don’t recall looking at film of Hopkins punting, but can he do it well enough to do if it if came down to it?
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Luke Stampini seems to think so.
3A All-State means he’s at least one of the six best kickers in the state. He’s’ pretty good from what I’ve heard. Heard he really likes UF and FSU. I forgot his third school, but the in-state schools are in the lead… for a 2012 prospect…
85 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
Right, few years down the road.
Wouldn’t 3A All State just mean the top 3A kicker, not necessarily one of the top 6 in the state? Like the 2nd best kicker in the state could also play in 3A and lose that recognition to Morgan, for example.
Didn’t go to high school in Florida but there are 7 classifications right?
If he is as good as any of our last 3 kickers/punters, I’d gladly take him.
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You're right. I forgot that there's 2A and 2B. Didn't play HS football.
And you’re right it doesn’t mean he’s one of the top six. The second best could be in 6A. Just a general statement I wanted to throw out there. Although I’d bet he’s the best in the state if FSU verbally offered so early. Can’t receive a written offer till September.
85 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
Definitely.
In regards to him likely being the best in the state, I didn’t say that but I guess I should have. Like you said, seems pretty obvious with those offers.
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Shazier said FSU has enough linebackers
That’s a good “problem” to have for FSU
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 11, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Per mod at ThaRinger
FSU has enough linebackers already, according to Ryan. Ryan is really good and a great athlete. But I wouldn’t give up Terrance Smith for him
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 11, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't gahnki like their chances?
I wouldn’t mind seeing OSU or UCLA be his choice. Another south Florida kid Miami “passed on”?
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Florida. He has bonded with our linebackers coach, Luke Fickell, but it’s not going to be enough. Miami supposedly doesn’t believe he can be a “true” linebacker. And since they run a pretty strict 4-3 they don’t want him as a hybrid guy.
Art Modell gives me a hard one
Hybrid?
They think he’s too big or something for lb? Not following.
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Yea but he's like 200-210 pounds.
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We'd still have room for Tony Steward, right?
by fsufrenzy911 on Jun 12, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions
No doubt
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 12, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
This is why I said earlier that unless he was open to playing DE or something, FSU wouldn't be the destination
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 12, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Read that Jabari Gorman is close for Miami.
4* and 167th overall in the country, according to rivals. Apparently a huge target for Miami this cycle.
85 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
I think Jabari is quite underrated. He’s a tough son of a gun and will play above his measurables. But he is headed to Miami.
Art Modell gives me a hard one
He’s a natural striker. Biggest hitter of any Florida DB, maybe biggest in the nation. Runs well, multiple interceptions on his film (good ball skills), shows desire in run support. Being in Ohio, I haven’t seen him live, so I’m going off film entirely and what I’ve heard/read from others. But I like Jabari a lot. Reminds me of a Kareem Jackson from Alabama.
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I respect that, I dont think he is the biggest hitter in FL but I don't want to get in an argument. He is clearly a BCS conference player.
He is a good player, but I’ve heard too much about him from SFL people for my liking. While I think he is athletic I don’t see much that seperates him from the regular everyday 3* DB from FL.
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What is your opinion of Holiman?
I like his ballskills and he’s a pretty big hitter as well
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 12, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Very good prospect. Did not know he had the grades for UM.
Good get for the Canes.
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 12, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
This is what I think we get as of now, conservatively.
QB 3* Top 40 QB
Beverly 3* Top 30 RB
Greene 4* Top 20 WR
Oleary 5* Top 3 TE
Hart 4* Top 10 OL
Joe 3* Top 30 OL
Matulis 3* Top 50 OL
Pettis 3* Top 45 OL
Lovelady 3* Top 45 OL
Rabasa 4* Top 10 DE
Williams 3* Top 70 DE
Mitchell 4* Top 20 DT
Stample 4* Top 15 DT
Bell 4* Top 15 DT
Akins 3* Top 30 DT
Steward 5* #1 LB
Smith 3* Top 25 LB
Williams 5* Top 5 DB
Davis 4* Top 15 DB
Smith 4* Top 15 DB
Hunter 4* Top 15 DB
Brutus 4* Top 20 DB
1 more DB (Grooms or Pryor, not Waisome) 4* Top 20 DB
That’s a really good class, and crazy to think we get that taking 5 OL
3.7 AVG star rating would be our highest in a half decade, and higher in even longer than that if we consider the enrolled rankings.
Again, this is very rough at this point.
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Just to understand your reasoning:
Six db’s?
Four dt’s?
Greene over Story?
We look good for Joe?
Not including Drew or Newberry makes sense.
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4 DTs if we don't get Newberry
We’ll shift some upperclassmen over fulltime (Cummings, Werner, maybe Dawk), probably Jarvis Jones if he comes.
Recruiting board has Greene over Story.
Errin Joe is in my class.
Not at all saying we are out of it for Drew or Newberry.
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 12, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Just not willing to list Drew/Newberry if you're being conservative, I understand.
So you think we take a wr though? I just thought Miami had a good shot with Joe. And I didn’t really consider bumping out a hybrid dt to de fulltime if we only took 2 de this class. Makes sense if that’s how it shakes out.
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They'll take the best 5-6 DL they can get.
This in 2011 (Jackson transfer for PT or takes medical hardship)
Moses McCray Sr.
Anthony McCloud Jr.
Jacobbi McDaniel Jr.
Everett Dawkins Jr.
Demonte McAllister So.
Darious Cummings So.
Damien Jacobs So.
Cameron Erving Fr.
Brandon Jenkins Jr.
Toshmon Stevens Jr.
Dan Hicks So.
Bjoern Werner So.
+ 5 or 6 incoming recruits.
I’m pretty giddy in saying we’ll once again be very good at DL
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 12, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
It's much better to be conservative with projections
That would be an impressive haul of front seven personnel (We have a surplus of DB’s so I know why we wouldn’t have much of an interest in Dorsey or TJ). And plenty of posters on-line that I respect believe Bell is superior to Gosha. Akins would be the most interesting prospect. Seems like a ‘Bama’ 1 Tech type. We will have a serious D-line rotation
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 12, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Gotta remember none of the kids we are recruiting will do a damn thing for us on the DL in 2011 and most won’t do shit in 2012. UF just took the most impressive DL haul in memory and nobody projects those kids to do shit until 2012.
But here’s a look at 2011
Moses McCray Sr.
Anthony McCloud Jr.
Jacobbi McDaniel Jr.
Everett Dawkins Jr.
Demonte McAllister So.
Darious Cummings So.
Damien Jacobs So.
Cameron Erving Fr.
Brandon Jenkins Jr.
Toshmon Stevens Jr.
Dan Hicks So.
Bjoern Werner So.
That’s 12.
If we go
Rabasa
Williams
Bell
Mitchell
Lawrence-Stample
Akins
our roster would look something like this
DT
Moses McCray Sr.
Anthony McCloud Jr.
Jacobbi McDaniel Jr.
Demonte McAllister So.
Damien Jacobs So.
Cameron Erving Fr.
Bell
Lawrence Stample
Mitchell
Akins
DT/ SDE
Everett Dawkins Jr.
Darious Cummings So.
Dan Hicks So.
Bjoern Werner So.
WDE
Brandon Jenkins Jr.
Toshmon Stevens Jr.
Rabasa
Williams
We will take the 5-6 best DL we can get and then find positions.
We will be bigger, much much bigger, without super DE speed rushers (though you gotta like jenkins), and zone blitz a lot with elite level pass rushing backers and big bodies dropping into coverage.
Basically, we’ll be Iowa’s defense, but faster. I think everyone prefers this to being run over like we have been in recent years.
And even if you DON’T prefer this, you’re dreaming if you think anyone we recruit this cycle is coming in and making an impact in his first year. So the 2011 block is pretty much locked in.
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Sounds good to me.
“Grown ass men” on the front line. That DL along w/ the LBs we’re projected to have, and I’d put our front 7 two-deep up against almost anybody’s in the nation.
We are satisying our needs and thats all that can be asked
Big guys up front to stuff the run and put opposing offenses in negative leverage situations. But having some with varied skill sets (the swing SDE/3 tech type guys Jimbo refers to) as well. I know none of these kids will make an immediate impact. Just like some noles mistakenly believe Amp will be some sort of stalwart on the interior line in 2010. Ain’t happenin! But as long as we have the requisite size (and athleticism) in the front seven,I’m good.
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 12, 2010 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Interesting that you guys think Davis sticks.
Nobody else does (other recruiting guys, I mean)
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by Randall W. Spetman on Jun 12, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
NTAT doesn't I don't think.
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I think he jumps back to Clemson
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 12, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
NTaT*
So clearly you think he’s still on the fence. I’m sure you’ve said why but I’ll ask again. Why do you think he lands on the Clemson side?
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I think he mainly committed to FSU because of his uncle and child in FL
but I think his heart is with Clemson. Also, I am sure Clemson coaches are talking to him about Spiller’s situation- he had his own little family in FL but stuck through it and became a legend up there. Lane’s in his ear daily, and I think eventually he’ll switch back.
Don’t get me wrong though, I want to see him at FSU. He’s going to be a special player and is one of our most talented commits. I hope we can hold on to him but if we do I will honestly be surprised.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 12, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Any reason you think his heart's with Clemson?
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This is fairly interesting (Granted it's outdated) but Lane will be a problem until NSD
It was obviously from before he commited to FSU. Would the recruiting mods say Cortez is our most talented DB commit?
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by westcoastnolefan on Jun 12, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure at this point
certainly our least committed commitment
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I'm sure every school has those, though.
Love to keep that guy though. Coulda be a helluva DB
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by Randall W. Spetman on Jun 12, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone feel Lawrence-Stample could possibly play SDE?
I know how big he is but with that type of athleticism he could be a monster of a SDE. It would be nice to have that sort of athleticism on the inside pushing the pocket but a 6’1 ish 300 lb SDE IMO would be very difficult for a lot of people to handle. If he turns out to be an NFL prospect I’d be willing to bet he would project as a 5-tech for a team running 30.
Why would we want him to play SDE with Werner and Cummings and Hicks?
I could see him as a 5 in a 3-4 but I don’t think he can play SDE in our system,
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 12, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I figured it wouldn't happen, just saying what if.
IMO he would be stud SDE with his combination of size, strength and athleticism.
He's not very long. I think he needs to be an interior penetrator. Tackles would eat him up,
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That’s begging for a certain 4 letter reply, but I won’t be the one to do it.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Jun 12, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Nile seems to profile as the best 3 Tech DT (Along with maybe Terry Bell if we snag him) amongst recruits
But while we’re at it, where does Mitchell play? 2 Tech or something like that? Seems like he would be pretty interchangable with Erving and Cummings. He also may be able to go strong side in a pinch, if needed
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 12, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Bell has the length to play outside.
That Nile doesn’t have.
But neither will. We already have our SDEs in Hicks, Cummings, Werner.
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No
Let less athletic players (Guards and centers even) deal with his lateral quickness
by westcoastnolefan on Jun 12, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently Williams is close to committing.
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Would like to see it go public also.
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He's been close, evidently.
One pretty reputable recruiting source is very surprised he hasn’t done it already.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Jun 12, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I think everyone expects FSU to land the kid.
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Fine by me
If we think he’ll put on some weight, I’m cool. Kid is quick
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by Randall W. Spetman on Jun 12, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully both he and Akins end up noles
I’d send Randy a thank you card
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Aw, thanks.
Oh. The other Randy.
I’m a huge Akins fan too. Monster.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Jun 12, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Williams?? Karlos already committed, so who is this other Williams?
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
Ricardo Williams DE
please see the recruiting board BN
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Thanks, my b, I havent been following recruiting this year like I used to, totally out of the loop.
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
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Not a problem at all
Just making sure you saw it.
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Nick O'Leary visiting UGA today
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UGA has been cleaning up. Their car delearship is better than FSUs apparently.
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- Ty Cobb
Just taking a tour of the south. Was in Bama yesterday.
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I don't think this has been posted yet, but Dwyer Coach Daniels says that if he has to bet right now (6/08/10) O'Leary would go to FSU.
Also, In the comment section a poster said that Daniels and Stoops have a close relationship. Can anyone shed some light on this point?
"FEAR is just the Opening ACT!!!" Coach Coley
Almost no one seemed to think FSU had a chance.
They were all shocked we were even mentioned. And UF fans are saying O’Leary isn’t near as good as Christian from last year and that’s why he’s not considering them. He doesn’t want to sit behind him again. Right.
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Clemson lost Brandon Ellerbee to UNC today. Probably means they will intensify their pursuit of Cortez Davis.
Art Modell gives me a hard one
I don't think they can pursue any harder but none of us consider him solid here, IMO
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 13, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
With Miami making a hard push with Joe, my confidence is waning
Both schools equal with offer and heavy pursuit, I think Miami has the edge unfortunately
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by NoleThruandThru on Jun 13, 2010 5:50 PM EDT reply actions
Whoa... I know he said he was going to commit when he went to Oregon, but...
85 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
LStampini
Park Vista OL Mike Matulis claims his latest offer is South Carolina #Gamecocks
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OL Darrell Williams highlights
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Kids who we think will show for this week's camp
QB
Stephen Rivers
Jacob Coker (not sure if he has a real offer)
Matt Floyd (Milton FL kid, not
Justin Worley (Maybe)
WR
Rashad Greene (top WR target)
Brandon Fulse
OL
Trey Petis
Sterling Lovelady
Quincey McKiney (Carver kid)
Bobby Hart
Ryan Kelly (Ohio kid, thanks Gahnki)
Darrell Williams (offered a few weeks ago, very high on FSU).
David Simon Video: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5238726 (no offer yet)
Defensive Tackle
Derrick Mitchell
Terry Bell
Chavis Akins
Defensive End
Anthony Rabassa
Ricardo Williams (could commit)
Silverberry Mouhon (no offer)
Linebacker
Terrance Smith (also plans to early enroll)
Tony Steward
Defensive Backs
Keelin Smith
Karlos Williams
Keelin Smith
Lamarcus Brutus
DB Senquez Golson (my Mississippi and Bama people are high on him. Bama, FSU, and Ole Miss have offered. Corner prospect).
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 16, 2010 12:22 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
What are the chances that we’ve have 2 Keelin Smiths committed? ;)
by jasonole59 on Jun 16, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn't mind a class finished off with just guys from that list.
I would prefer a Drew or Newberry as well as one or two of those de’s, but other than that it’s good. Not sure it’d help separate us from Clemson/Miami though.
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